Mini 1117 - Manhattan Special - [GAME OVER]

[InflatablePie]

I probably should have bumped over the VC.

D1 Votecount #1

[3] CrazyQuestions - ShadoWolf, el simo, Internet Stranger
[2] Empking - Midnight's Sorrow, Erratus Apathos
[1] Pergol - GreyICE
[1] Midnight's Sorrow - Substrike22
[1] Substrike22 - Empking
[1] GreyICE - CrazyQuestions
[0] saporovirus
[0] TheLonging
[0] ShadoWolf
[0] Erratus Apathos
[0] Internet Stranger
[0] ConfidAnon
[0] el simo
[4] Not Voting: saporovirus, TheLonging, Pergol, ConfidAnon

Please point out any possible mistakes. With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch or 7 to No Lynch. The deadline is Saturday, February 12th, at 12PM EST.

[TheLonging]

El: What are your thoughts on Grey avoiding the thread?

YOU'RE SCUM

VOTE: EMPKING

FOR THE RECORD, I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT I AM DOING THIS GAME.

So humour me guys; what in all of this crap do I have to re-read to catch up again? This is exactly like how IS described it; it's a family fight, not scumhunting.

[Empking]

El: What are your thoughts on Grey avoiding the thread?

YOU'RE SCUM

VOTE: EMPKING

FOR THE RECORD, I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT I AM DOING THIS GAME.

So humour me guys; what in all of this crap do I have to re-read to catch up again? This is exactly like how IS described it; it's a family fight, not scumhunting.

How about you play the game and scum hunt? No seriously POSTING IN CAPITALS does not make up for your refusal to help this game.

[TheLonging]

How about the fact I just got home today, and logged in, not aware the game started until I checked my inbox? Unless you want to paint a picture about me and say I refused to participate on purpose.

I have read, and read again. No seriously, I think everyone is town but you and maybe Crazy. Therefore I am voting you. You are also saying Grey is avoiding the thread and on TOP of that, he's doing it deliberately.

By the way I didn't post in all caps, but if you want me to, I WILL. <3

[el simo]

El: What are your thoughts on Grey avoiding the thread?

YOU'RE SCUM

VOTE: EMPKING

FOR THE RECORD, I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT I AM DOING THIS GAME.

So humour me guys; what in all of this crap do I have to re-read to catch up again? This is exactly like how IS described it; it's a family fight, not scumhunting.

I was waiting for this

[Empking]

Therefore I am voting you. You are also saying Grey is avoiding the thread and on TOP of that, he's doing it deliberately.

By gosh. Since that is y'know a truthful and accurate fact. Which (the last time I checked) you can immediately notice by just looking at the main post. So what are you trying to say when you bring it up?

Unvote

Vote: Grey

[Erratus Apathos]

Its typical hyperbole.

Calling the scum team before half the players have even posted is hardly typical, but okay. How hyperbolic is it?

Oh yea, thats right.

Unvote: GREY
OMGUS: Crazy
Vote : CRAZY

For making ME the son in that father/son bullcrap. You might as well have put up some inane survey and had people ask questions on who they think is scum. They are both as useless.

If youre having daddy issues, go see a therapist. Im here to catch the scum, not to make you feel better about yourself.

How does voting Crazy for "making [you] the son" catch scum?

And you still haven't answered how scummy you thought Grey was as of post 5.

I don't see any scumhunting in any of Shado's posts, so

UNVOTE: Empking
VOTE: ShadoWolf

[TheLonging]

Therefore I am voting you. You are also saying Grey is avoiding the thread and on TOP of that, he's doing it deliberately.

By gosh. Since that is y'know a truthful and accurate fact. Which (the last time I checked) you can immediately notice by just looking at the main post. So what are you trying to say when you bring it up?

Unvote

Vote: Grey

I'm saying at the fact that he might be having a life and you're voting him for it.

Also hi el simo <3

[TheLonging]

Furthermore, you could always consider that he popped in quickly, MAYBE had time to write a quick short post, and not have enough time to reply to a bunch of content that's not THAT viable? I don't know. If he posted a long post here (or two) while he was here, I'll take you only a bit more seriously.

[el simo]

^ which is why I'd rather leave it to later in the game when we have an actual pattern to analyse. Too much wifom this early.

[saporovirus]

Oh hai guys, I am fashionably late. I will have to take some time to read through all this troubling daddy-son talk.

[ConfidAnon]

Oh hi, active game.

Expect a nice post tomorrow night.

(You just might be surprised with it tomorrow morning).

[Internet Stranger]

Everyone is like all schizophrenic and all over the place. I would go with Midnight. I cant tell if GREY or Crazy are actually scum. Just delusional.

Unvote: Crazy
Vote Midnight

[Erratus Apathos]

UNVOTE: ShadoWolf
VOTE: Internet Stranger

Any reason you're ignoring me?

[Substrike22]

Crazy, your chainsaw occured when I vote for EMP and then you suddenly post a wall of text on p1 explaining why I'm mafia. Also, fuck your husband/wife daddy/son thing. It's stupid and obnoxious.

IS, I acknowledge that you helped move us out of RVS but our original poster was indeed, as you acknowledge, the catalyst and deserves some of the credit. All I needed was that explanation.

Still comfortable with that MS vote since he's now avoiding the game, and I agree with EMP that Grey's retreat into the shadows of this game isn't a good sign for him.

[Empking]

^ which is why I'd rather leave it to later in the game when we have an actual pattern to analyse. Too much wifom this early.

No its not WIFOM. Don't use that word unless you know what is means.

EA: I be honest, their play suggests I'm right but I'm not extraordinarily confident on my reads this early in.

[el simo]

^ which is why I'd rather leave it to later in the game when we have an actual pattern to analyse. Too much wifom this early.

No its not WIFOM. Don't use that word unless you know what is means.

I don't appreciate the demeaning tone bub.

What you've claimed isn't WIFOM, and that is that he is avoiding the thread, but his only possible defence is all catch 22. It's a loaded accusation and this early in the game with having given him enough time to establish a pattern for us to analyse, it's just all bad news.

[ShadoWolf]

I think it's much too early in the game to say that people are lurking. We're 4 pages in. I'm not liking the fact that those accusations are around already.

[CrazyQuestions]

So thinking you are scum is extreme but talking about daddy son scum teams isn't?

a) If you think I am scum, fine. Keep your eyes open so you can check your theory or find connections. Make a case on me so I can discuss it, etc...

b) I said labelling my words as "non committal" and "hesitant" is extreme. This is a game of uncertainty, and we were talking of page 3. I just start to see facts and point them out for everybody to have them.

c) My story on daddy/son is just what I perceived from IS and Strike against Grey and Shadow. I described in a funny way how what they were doing sounded curious to me. I am not considering them openly scum, or I would write down a case and push for their lynch. I just consider them slightly scummy now, and I continue observing and writting down what I consider useful.

By the way, that will be the case for most of the time, so if you are town, better you enjoy it. I like to play this way because I think it helps the town to share as much information as possible.

No seriously, I think everyone is town but you and maybe Crazy.

Post your thoughts on why.

Crazy, your chainsaw occured when I vote for EMP and then you suddenly post a wall of text on p1 explaining why I'm mafia. Also, fuck your husband/wife daddy/son thing. It's stupid and obnoxious.

My "attack" started much earlier with IS. And I am not saying you are mafia. I am just saying your contradictions are interesting and point out some scumminess to me. And I noted it. You yet have not answered to the contradictions pointed out.

[CrazyQuestions]

I will write my two main points on Substrike for him to answer in a less funny way.
Question 1

a) He dedicates 10 lines to criticize Internet Stranger and Empking for their votes on Grey. He even finds suspicious some of these attacks.
b) He finds scummy and votes for the only player "defending" Grey.

How are a) and b) compatible in your scumhunting?

Question 2

a) He says that he does not understand my issues with IS
b) Critizicing and voting for Shadow he says that there are clear flaws in IS that I am pointing out
c) Later he says we are point out to different flaws

How are b) and c) compatible with a) ?

[CrazyQuestions]

Also, simo, your argument is clearly mistaken

Not only is it totally non committal but it's classic scum bait, I bet he is just waiting for someone else to take his hook and run with it.

Read back posts 9, 12 and 20.

9 states my observations
12 states shadow's observations
20 states how I call shadow's observations "parroting me" (because he mentions exactly the same two facts i mentioned)

[Empking]

^ which is why I'd rather leave it to later in the game when we have an actual pattern to analyse. Too much wifom this early.

No its not WIFOM. Don't use that word unless you know what is means.

I don't appreciate the demeaning tone bub.

What you've claimed isn't WIFOM, and that is that he is avoiding the thread, but his only possible defence is all catch 22. It's a loaded accusation and this early in the game with having given him enough time to establish a pattern for us to analyse, it's just all bad news.

I'm sorry seriously. That's your argument.

Grey's action mark him clearly scum due to there not being any pro-town natureto his actions. That means hecan't defend himself without resorting to WIFOM. That's not fair!

[Internet Stranger]

Doh. I just realized that I didnt mean Midnight. He hasnt done anything yet except for some random vote.

The scum is Shadow. He is here, but not really here. Like he is making his appearance known but not contributing anything of substance. All I see from him are small one liners criticizing people and not being all that pertinent. That has to be the scummiest type of behavior.

Unvote: Midnight
Vote: Shadow

[Empking]

Unvote

Vote: Shado

[Empking]

El: Y'know how Grey purposely avoided the thread yesterday. And he's doing the same today. Is that a pattern enoigh for you?