Brightest Day Mafia, Part 1 - GAME OVER

[Andrius]

Kast, I pmed the mod about the difference between Uncultable and Unrecruitable and they said the difference was the wording.

They wouldn't elaborate on that so I am going to say that the words are interchanageable.

Andy: Dana didn't publishly state that. Oversoul said he PMed the mod and was confirmed they are essentially the same thing.

My bad.
This, BB.

[Andrius]

prod dodge

Keep up the good work, White Lanterns.

[Andrius]

BB if you're concerned then YOU pm dana and ask for an interpretation.

Janitor conceals a flip.
So a player would flip Andrius, ???

Uncultable mafia means MAFIA CAN GET CULTED.
HOW HARD IS THAT BB

[Andrius]

You've... got your eye on me, Andrius?

Well, shit. I better be careful. The guy who thinks GW is mafia, not CR, and is telling us we should go after the CR, while keeping his vote on GW, has his eye on me.

I have no idea why I have a town read on you.

That wasn't an

IGMEOY:

because it wasn't.
It was just a face of disapproval over prod-dodging.

predit: BLACKBERRY IT HAPPENED LAST GAME. MAFIA AND MASONS WERE CULT-ABLE BY THE CULT. WELCOME TO BLACKEST NIGHT PART TWO. EXCEPT THIS TIME WE HAVE THE BRAINS TO BREAK THE GAME.

[Andrius]

Ok, let's just say you're right, BB.
Let's say there's a mason recruiter (lol_BROKEN).
Or let's say there's a mason recruiter who only recruits non-cult. Let's call it the JUSTICE LEAGUE/WHITE LANTERNS/WHATEVER.
Let's say there's a difference.

Is the black lantern cult FUCKED or what?

[Andrius]

There was a MASON RECRUITER in the LAST game Andrius... -_-

What happens when Cult cults a Mafia? That's fricken dumb as hell and way too cult-sided, no?

I KNOW THERE WAS ONE I PLAYED IN IT.

WE DONT KNOW THATS THE POINT.

Well as we learned in the last game flavor trumps breakability so of course the cult could recruit scum and masons it happens in the flavor.

[Andrius]

If the cult can recruit mafia...

Then if the cults are still alive after a short while, I'm all down for being recruited. =D But not tonight and probably not the next night. After that if you're winning, recruit the snot out of me or I'll hack into your mafia acct. and delete it.

xoxo

After Succession Mafia I, I will kill any townie who has this mindset in two days (assuming CR isn't dead by then).
Because Gurgi, singer, and Poro all lurked in endgame and they were the votes I NEEDED to push a Flameaxe lynch, together with xvart.
But they lurked.
And lurked.
And enabled the scumlynch.
So what happened?
They won.
As Cult.
Getting recruited in endgame for playing like shit.

I am still bitter about that- we were THIS CLOSE to having the win.
But the townies still left weren't there.

[Andrius]

Perhaps the mafia has a recruiting ability. That would explain Unrecruitable mastin-town versus Uncultable Toog-mafia.

My boyfriend happens to be a computer hacker.

I didn't know you and shotty were a thing.

Nik you rock. <3

[Andrius]

I'm spending all day working on ACCT and setting up Encore.
inHim just drop the goddamn hammer we've spent enough time lollygagging about.

[Andrius]

nopointinactingup of Hawkworld.
We condemn the desecration of your body, but we condone the elevation of your spirit and

hope

you embrace the light as it embraces you.
All will be well.

I targeted Subliminal last night.
So unless shenanigans then he isn't the CR.

[Andrius]

Would the mod(s) be so kind as to explain what a Publisher and Drill Sergeant are? My guess on the latter would be a Motivator.
BB, do you know what WIFOM is?
Awaiting other head before we lay some smack down, expect a vote on someone scummy.

Wrong Corps.
Motivator will come from the Blue Corps.
Like last time.

Publisher's been done before- posts flavor in-thread via the mod.
Basically, fake modscene.
I'd bet that "vig shot" from D1 was fake.
Since GW was missing all of D2 there was none.
Coindicende? I think not.
Also, I've used Publishers in both my recent two games, so they're not uncommon at all.

Vote: WLC

Still needs death.

[Andrius]

nopointinactingup of Hawkworld.
We condemn the desecration of your body, but we condone the elevation of your spirit and

hope

you embrace the light as it embraces you.
All will be well.

I targeted Subliminal last night.
So unless shenanigans then he isn't the CR.

What is this 'HOPE' capitalization? Is this some sort of signal to someone? ...

The burial rites for the fallen Black Lanterns.

[Andrius]

Question @ Mod... if Nopoint was cult-recruited LAST NIGHT, and KILLED last night... would he show up as Black Lantern/Cult or No because he died the same night?

I don't think he was killed- it specifically says "SUICIDE" so I think FRIEND was killed and he SUICIDED unless he SUICIDES UPON RECRUITION BECAUSE MASON AND GAMEBROKEN LASTGAME.

So

[Andrius]

Speaking of that, I have no problem claiming what my original role was:

Saint Walker

, regular doctor. Protected Andrius N1 and nopoint (oops) N2. (Speaking of that, either Nopoint's suicide was unstoppable or his death trigger was slightly delayed... flavor suggests the former.) I'd rather keep the new ability under wraps for now, but I'll claim it if necessary.

Vote: Blackberry

for now.

- Tar

Which is why he was all over me D1 for crumbing the Holy Stroller.
I still believe CJ to be town.
Reading the thread later on wheeeee running around doing errands before it gets to melting point in a few.

[Andrius]

CJ IS NOT CULT RECRUITER.
CJ IS TOWN.

BB you tell me right now why WLC is not for the hanging today.
BB is town.

So I'm going to assume that if no one claims the power-theft deal it was anti-town motivated. Waiting to see if anyone claims it...

That's it.
VOTE: BB
I honestly don't give a shit if you're town or not. You are a fucking anti-town FORCE.

BB is town you twat.

I got the same PM Kast, my powers were taken away as well, it sounds like its permanent - it says I am now a Vanilla Townie, this is fucked. Wondering if this is a mod error and only one of us were supposed to get this, both of us losing our powers in the same night seems very anti-town (if you are town) then again this is the sequel to the last game which was imbalanced as fuck as well

It would be interesting to find out how this works.
Namely, to see if this occurs more often. Odd/Even night deal, there were two of you, etc.

If someone Motivated anyone last night, this might be a good time to consider claiming- you might have motivated the Power Thief.

TINFOIL, but plausible.

Because I was SAINT WALKER, BLUE LANTERN MOTIVATOR last game and was BROKEN because I was a Cop and a Motivator- something they no doubt fixed for this game.

Secondly, two possibilities immediately come to mind if this is a result of a night power:
-We have a Doubler in this game who Doubled scum (if there *is* a town Doubler, then this possibility becomes extremely likely)
-Vezokpiraka claimed a delay power, so if Oversoul is the power-stealer/eraser he may have targeted either you or me on N1 and it got delayed until N2.

I agree with the first two; hadn't considered the last one.
Which might be reasonable.

OK WE NEED TO GET ORGANIZED.


- Kast,

Tracker

turned VT N2
- Andrius, RB
- Candle Jack, Doc
- WeyounsLastClone, ???
- Blackberry, ???
- hiplop, WLC
- Mr. Subliminal, ???
- ToastyToast, Star Sapphire, JK
- vezokpiraka, Delayer [?], WLC [?]
- tanstalas, Larfleeze,

Power Copier

turned VT N2
- Nikanor, WLC
- zMuffinMan, WLC
- inHimshalibe, Miller
- Oversoul, ???


- Kast,

Tracker

turned VT N2
- Andrius, RB
- Candle Jack, Doc
- WeyounsLastClone, ???
- Blackberry, ???
- hiplop, WLC
- Mr. Subliminal, ???
- ToastyToast, Star Sapphire, JK
- vezokpiraka, Delayer [?], WLC [?]
- tanstalas, Larfleeze,

Power Copier

turned VT N2
- Nikanor, WLC
- zMuffinMan, WLC
- inHimshalibe, Miller
- Oversoul, ???

NON-CULT RECRUITER:
- Andrius, RB
- hiplop, WLC
- ToastyToast, Star Sapphire, JK
- vezokpiraka, Delayer [?], WLC [?]
- tanstalas, Larfleeze,

Power Copier

turned VT N2
- Nikanor, WLC
- zMuffinMan, WLC

HIGHLY DOUBT IT:
- inHimshalibe, Miller
- Mr. Subliminal, ???
- Oversoul, ???
- Kast,

Tracker

turned VT N2
- Candle Jack, Doc

POSSIBLY CR
- WeyounsLastClone, ???
- Blackberry, ???

BOLDED NAMES ARE PEOPLE WHO NEED TO CLAIM; CR IS MOST LIKELY IN THAT LIST.

No, BB. TT is JK, tans is Power Copier. Munk from the last game.

Motivator will come from the Blue Corps.
Like last time.

So sue me I don't have faith in the mods to make the game unbreakable.

-If anyone else got a PM that they lost all their powers, now might be a good time to share it. There's also a possibility that a DEAD player might have had their powers erased and didn't have a chance to claim (also if it's a mafia ability, there's a chance it hit a Black Lantern who might not want to claim).

This.

This leaves the only possible OS (ordered based on my opinion of likelihood):

- Blackberry
- WeyounsLastClone

- Mr. Subliminal
- Candle Jack

- inHimshalibe

He's in the top two- calling it now.
I already said why inHim can't be it- if *I* were a CR who wanted to claim Miller I'd claim Miller FOR THE COLOR I WOULD FLIP WHEN INVESTIGATED. NAMELY BLACK. So I'd give Nekron/whoever a WILLIAM HAND fakeclaim.

But apparently there's a Cult Cop so its probably CultCop/MafiaCop instead of Color Cop so less breakable there.
Which raises questions about inHim but I don't think its him and if I've been duped again then I'll handle that later.

Agree with Mr. S's analysis on Day kill: we know it happened D2. Also, did anyone else notice that nopoint's 1 shot BP was striken out? I'm betting he was the Day 1 indigo target.

Good point. :/
Or he lost it upon getting recruited for obv BREAKABLE reasons but. :/

Andy has some sort of roleblock power ??

Yep.
Don't forget Muffin.

CJ basically soft-claimed someone who survived to endgame as cult in the last game...would make a good fake claim flavor wise OR could be a starter cult member.

Bad logic.
They added all the characters who died last game so why would this be different?
Besides, I think I'd blacklist dana if he made SAINT WALKER start as Cult.
Because that would just piss me right off.
FOR THE MEMORY OF LAST GAME.

BB, inHim said he'd flip RED LANTERN if investigated.

True.
If Toast keeps RBing people with no actual power then he can get away with a JK fakeclaim.
But at the rate we're going I don't think this is a Vanilla-less setup, soooo it'd be incredibly hard for him to pull off.

I don't think CJ is the CR.
WLC/BB FOR THE LYNCH.
HELL WE CAN LYNCH BOTH OF THEM TODAY.
THATS A GRAND IDEA.

I want to believe Kast and Tans as Andrius surely would have claimed that he had his powers permanently taken (and judging by his posts I think he successfully roleblocked Subliminal last night), but I am so very confused and need a few minutes to think things through.

Yeah I would have but I wasn't so OOOOOOH WELLLL MAYBE NEXT TIME [?]

Tans IS confirmed town, people.

. I want to hear more from Andrius though as he has experience in dealing with cults and what to do at this point in the game but he is V/LA. If we are going to claim, wait until he is off V/LA.

You're not the CR.
You don't need to fullclaim.
Let's make one thing clear though: You KNEW that your action was Delayed N1, yes?
Just a simple yes/no will do.
This can clear one person as CR i think.
(Unless you're culted OFC but.)

Does somebody know the number of recruits?

ASSUMING night recruition, there's been two night.
One dead black recruit.
So if he wasn't blocked, there's one live recruit.
If he was, its just him.

Why are people eliminating others as CL based on the fact that they were RB'd?

Because nopoint was culted N1, and blocked people N1 couldn't have recruited him.
Simple logic.

But yeah

I propose a fullclaim from WLC and BB. Most likely CRs.

Just 2nd and all plz.

BB no one had Daytalk last game.

Let's try this again.

FULLCLAIMS FROM WLC AND BB. MASSCLAIM IS NOT NECESSARY WITH THE POWER THIEVES ABOUT.

As for BB I read him as town because of the similarities between his play here and SkypeMafia- I don't think I've seen him play outside Skypemafia, but I could be wrong.
Regardless, the logic speaks- if its not WLC its most likely BB after that, so.

TOAST VOTE WLC WITH YOUR NEW CORPS.

Yeah. I'm thinking Andy was recruited by Sublim last night. Sublim wasn't on anybody's list. This looks like an excuse to 'clear' Sublim from being the CR.

He was on MY list.
And I'll pull it for you.
I think I made it VERY CLEAR that I was going to, and got him on the list for that reason exactly.

I'm all for a massclaim but ALL WE NEED at this juncture is claims from WLC and BB.
In light of the Power Theft I think it best to CONCENTRATE a massclaim among likely CRs FOR NOW and then we massclaim if that fails to net us nekron/whoeverthefuckheis.

A cult doc (now vanilla),

Wait what?!?

Hey, Andrius, Muffin, you both say you've got some form of roleblocking power, but we don't know your N1 targets. These would be people who can be confirmed to have not recruited nopointinactingup N1, so, y'know, we'd like to hear them.

I actually *did* block tans.
I thought that was made clear with the long andy/tans talk of D1.

@CJ: Why Andrius and why nopoint? It seems like you were protecting people from likely vig shots rather than scumkills.

Just because YOU don't think I'm obvtown...

Also, I am in favor of a mass claim, or at least a claim from all of the possible cult recruiters.

Cool.
Now WHO ARE YOUR CR READS?
Because you're like "claim from the Cr possiblities" without listing them yourself.
I'm trying to clear you as one so shape up you twat.

AGAIN, LETS MAKE THIS CLEAR:

If someone Motivated anyone last night, this might be a good time to consider claiming- you might have motivated the Power Thief.

FULLCLAIMS FROM WLC AND BB. MASSCLAIM IS NOT NECESSARY WITH THE POWER THIEVES ABOUT.

[Andrius]

I don't think so.
Sry.
And its not just because he's St. Walker. <3

[Andrius]

No no no CJ is not mafia or cult.
Toast as mafia is no surprise.

OK NIK YOURE MASON I SHEEP YOU SO YEAH CAN WE LYNCH WLC/BB NOW?
PREFERABLY AFTER THEY CLAIM?
AND AFTER WE WEIGH THEIR CLAISMS

[Andrius]

Magua, I don't see CJ almost CC-ing me over Saint Walker as CR.
Why?
Because he'd be stuck with that claim all game, then look really bad later down the line when I flip town. (I mean yeah being all lulz about a role I don't have is iffy but yeah SW changed my life and my mafia game so).

Because CCing D1 isn't a good stay-under-the-radar play for CRs.


predit: long time ago. lrn2isome

[Andrius]

Nik's clearly God, Toast.

[Andrius]

Point 7: Andrius, why are you saying I am town and then asking for a full-claim?

Because I think it HAS to be you or WLC.
And we should get claims from both of you.

Massclaim is unnecessary if we can get claims from you and find the Black CR within you/WLC.

Toast CAN BE cleared as CR if you give me time.

You have a point but he's down one member, and he recruited LAST NIGHT.
And last game they didn't have much time to converse.
Hell, when I was recruited there was NO TIME at all, so.

[Andrius]

Let me maintain that I STILL think a massclaim can break this game wide open.
But it is unnecessary right now because of NARROWED DOWN CR prospects.

And a Strongman CR would be INSANELY unbalanced, so I think we're doing this right.

[Andrius]

Okay Andy, now lrn2answerpost1900.
Why wouldn't he CC if someone was using his *wait for it* fake claim?

It would give him too much attention IMO.
He obviously knows, as you pointed out, that its HIS fakeclaim so unless LOLMODS or town being twats that NO ONE should be claiming his person.
So if he CCs and gets idiot town lynched what happens? Either: a) ppl realize twat_townie was asking for it b) he is lynched/shot in counter

Also, depending on the various level of reaction he *could* be obvtown-ized so then he'd have a bigger target on his back- and its highly unlikely that he's a full BP so every kill he can avoid is precious.

His play despite me being near-twat status has also been consistently pro-town. I'd quote myself in ISO but I know you're more than capable of doing that yourself.



BB.
What don't you understand.
TT can be CLEARED if you hold on.
WHITE LANTERNS SAID THAT THEY ARE ALL CONFIRMED NON-CR.
SO ILL TRUST THE LOL_MASONRY.

Yes, but WLC are claimed NON-CULT so yeah and power-confirmed people from N1 are another deal- game would be borked if the CR had a legit, say, JK action to use as well. Confirmability issues narrows the pool of suspects.

[Andrius]

BB you tell me right now your top three (3) CR reads.
And it they're not WLC/BB then you explain them. Namely, how they can work.

[Andrius]

Because nopoint was N1 recruit and N2 recruit would have LITTLE TO NO TIME to coordinate a faked block on his CR especially if HIS BLOCK IS CONFIRMED ON SOMEONE ELSE.

[Andrius]

Magua, I don't see CJ almost CC-ing me over Saint Walker as CR.
Why?
Because he'd be stuck with that claim all game, then look really bad later down the line when I flip town. (I mean yeah being all lulz about a role I don't have is iffy but yeah SW changed my life and my mafia game so).

Because CCing D1 isn't a good stay-under-the-radar play for CRs.


predit: long time ago. lrn2isome

Okay Andy, now lrn2answerpost1900.
Why wouldn't he CC if someone was using his *wait for it* fake claim?

It would give him too much attention IMO.
He obviously knows, as you pointed out, that its HIS fakeclaim so unless LOLMODS or town being twats that NO ONE should be claiming his person.
So if he CCs and gets idiot town lynched what happens? Either: a) ppl realize twat_townie was asking for it b) he is lynched/shot in counter

Also, depending on the various level of reaction he *could* be obvtown-ized so then he'd have a bigger target on his back- and its highly unlikely that he's a full BP so every kill he can avoid is precious.

His play despite me being near-twat status has also been consistently pro-town. I'd quote myself in ISO but I know you're more than capable of doing that yourself.

I thought I made this clear, Magua.

Do you want a case?
Because I'll go into my ISO and drag out everything I've said about CJ if you want me to.

Do you think CJ is scum for his play or his claim?
Or both?
Because his play has been solid- his claim, yeah, Doc, could be better but you know.

p.s. Has anyone had a role change like CJ's?
Because now that Magua's got me thinking it reminds me of Kast's Ganthet_JOAT thing from last game.

[Andrius]

Ok my post magically disappeared. >_>

ANYWAY I fully expect to be alive after the next votecount- somehow a non-public daykill doesn't seem very pro-town to begin with BUTTT yeah.

Vote: WLC

[Andrius]

It resolves before.
Instantaneous, just like the Blue Lanterns like last game.

[Andrius]

Someone drop the hammer.
I'll catch up later tonight.

[Andrius]

oversoul i said i'd be back later after i read the thread.
patience, young one.

[Andrius]

Vote because you think he's CR, BB.
Don't vote because we're pressuring you to.
That's a way of shirking responsibility.

We condemn him to death, but you're the one who's pulling the trigger.
Remember that.

[Andrius]

OBTW Toast is confirmed non-CR via Oversoul claiming he knows of the block on him.

[Andrius]

Ah.

[Andrius]

DANA I SEE YOU POSTING.

EBWOP: NO INHIM WHAT THE F***.

[Andrius]

/inb4modscene

[Andrius]

Not to mention, the fact that you think WLC is at the very least mafia and not voting him when we have TWO lynches to go today doesn't sit well with me.

Its ok BB hammered WLC so we're good.

[Andrius]

What are you talking about? It doesn't look to me like anyone was lynched.

Wait what?

I thought BB hammereed WLC.

[Andrius]

Know what?
I'll just shut up until I catch up.

[Andrius]

Hiplop, you are forgiven if you vote WLC

HIPLOP HAMMER.
DANA DONT LEAVE WE'LL GIVE YOU YOUR LYNCH.

[Andrius]

TANS.
HIPLOP.
YOU LIVE IN CANADA?
B/C NIK+TOAST+DTM+I ARE PLANNING ONE.

[Andrius]

TANS.
HIPLOP.
YOU LIVE IN CANADA?
B/C NIK+TOAST+DTM+I ARE PLANNING ONE.

A MAFIA? i think people frown on that kind of thing ._.

NO.
A MEETUP.

[Andrius]

SLEE----E-
Wrong: BPOA

SEXYKREW! =D

FAIL.

[Andrius]

WILL THERE BE SNACKS?

If you come, yes!

u guys wont stand me up will you

No bro- swing by my GTKAS thread.

[Andrius]

Andy isn't Canadian, is he?

Nope.

[Andrius]

Yeah I'm not going to join Subliminals witch-hunt looking for CRs in the wrong places.
The setup needs a doctor.
And there's been no CC.
Unless ofc Toast goes full-Doc and ignores the RB part but.

I think we should get back to lynching logically, not some crazy tinfoil "WELL HE MIGHT HAVE CULTED HIM WHO MIGHT HAVE HAD TIME TO COORDINATE"
OBTW, REMEMBER CULTS GROW.
If Toast dies and flips black then I'll bend over backwards and lynch oversoul and kiss BB's feet.

But I don't think its that complex.

Vote: BB

inHim replacing out is MEHHHHH but :/

[Andrius]

from Doctor to Rolecop, in the orange lantern corps.

[Andrius]

Andrius - has powers stolen N1, confirmed non-CR

No, I still have mine. >_>

I mean Subliminal isn't cleared of being CR- he was just blocked last night.

[Andrius]

I laugh at the mods who think that double-lynches will solve the games' problems.

I DONT FUCKING KNOW.
I DONT KNOW.
OK?

...
...
...
What do you think Subliminal's chances of being CR are?

Because I don't like the Toasty odds and CJ's town and you're on the chopping block out of POE.

[Andrius]

SHIT ITS JUST ONE VOTE DOES IT MATTER THAT MUCH?

[Andrius]

I AM HERE.
YOU JUST WIGGED OUT OVER ONE VOTE.

Unvote

BB is town.

I AM DOWN FOR LE MASSCLAIM.
FROM DAY FUCKING ONE.
BECAUSE THIS GAME IS BREAKABLE AND WE CAN DO IT.

[Andrius]

I think we should make an order to it though.
Like:
POSSIBLE CRS
Then all the Non-CRs as follows:
Others
OLC
WLC


Ehhh Subliminal they're not masons they COULD be mafia, you said they're not CR in the Entity gambit but can be mafia.
SO YEAH.

[Andrius]

ALSO

YOU'RE NOT GOING TO COP IHSIB. GODFUCKINGDAMMIT, HE CLAIMED MILLER, EITHER HE'S A MILLER OR HE'S MAFIA. GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE.

I agree with this if Inhim was Black Recruiter he would have claimed BLACK miller.

[Andrius]

BB I'm playing.
I'm just really busy.
So I skipped a few pages.

I AM HERE. I AM PLAYING.
AND IF ANYONE PULLS A SINGER/GURGI/PROZAC THERE WILL BE BLOOD.

No, WLC goes last.

[Andrius]

WLC
- vezokpiraka - WLC
- Nikanor - WLC
- zMuffinMan - WLC
- hiplop - WLC

OLC
- tanstalas - OLC
- Andrius - OLC
- ToastyToast - OLC

MISC NON-CULT
- inHimshalibe - Holding ground that he's not CR based on the Red-Miller claim.
- Candle Jack - Holding ground he's town over anything
- Blackberry - Holding that he's town
- Kast - 'Nillized Tracker, Non-Cult

???
- Oversoul
- Mr. Subliminal

[Andrius]

So vezok is confirmed via power.
Muffin and hiplop..
tans, Toast, and I are all confirmed via power- tans and I cross-confirmed.
Minus tinfoils with Toast/Oversoul ofc.

inHim is RED miller and I don't think BLACK would claim RED.
CJ and BB are town.
Kast is confirmed via ability and at worst, (rofl) 'Nillized CR.

I forget what Oversoul is/did and Subliminal is the only one with nothing.

So we take that list and claim IN REVERSE.

Does that work?

[Andrius]

OBTW Toast and I aren't actually Orange Lanterns.
I'm a Non-Lantern and he's Violet.
I just named the Corps after tans, who was the leader.

[Andrius]

So yeah.
Subliminal should claim.
The only one with NOTHING on the board.

I'm a Non-Lantern as I've said a couple times. Faraday wanted Batman. I wanted Walker.
He replaced out and left me with an Encore role.

[Andrius]

Cut the crap Magua and claim.

Vote: Subliminal

How many peopel does it take to claim?

[Andrius]

Yeah everyone needs to claim:

NAME
ROLE
NIGHT ACTIONS

[Andrius]

[Andrius]

It'd be funny if the WLs got rings by stealing them from other lanterns. TROLOLOLOLOLOLOL

CJ is town you twat.

[Andrius]

I thought I already outlined how the massclaim should look. --;

[Andrius]

TINFOIL

ORANGE
LANTERN
CULT
MADE OF CONSTRUCTS.

DISCUSS.

[Andrius]

Wait... why would Andrius block Mr. S after his entity claim (which I actually believed to be partially true - and still do).... ?

He was on my list.

Also, forget the above post- Hal Jordan made them too so that's rightout.

[Andrius]

I know that.
I just don't understand how CJ became ORANGE without DYING.
Given that Gretti had to DIE before he became an ORANGE CONSTRUCT.

[Andrius]

BB just face it we're not part of the cool kids club.

[Andrius]

OMG u gusuy are mean to mean I am the sexy one that ryan reynaolds likes i swearsssssss it. but i have to go to sleep cuz of scool. and i need to pee . nbut i have a picture and its of te girl but she's ugllyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy. lkie why did dana pick that photo

get the fuck off no one wants to hear you drunk.

[Andrius]

I want to know what Andrius' power is exactly

Strike this. If Oversoul doesn't get modkilled, tanstalas needs to say what Andrius' power is, and then Andrius can confirm/deny. Andrius is confirmed non-recruiter to tanstalas, I want tanstalas to confirm non-recruiter to Andrius.

Roleblocker.

Sorry Andy.

I thought it was quite obvious what power I took night one.

I'm here, I'm here.
Its funny because the night after I criticize Toast for drunkposting I get smashed.
So yeah that explains why I wasn't here at all.

But yeah I'm a pure Roleblocker. Am I fullclaiming now, or?

I'll read this game later- I'm working on Encore right now (which has fallen somewhat behind).

[Andrius]

And it it wasn't implied I can confirm tanstalas- as he knows my role.
I mean yeah Maf.RoleCop but he's not CR and his play and all.

[Andrius]

Ohai Kdub. <3

[Andrius]

Well, I have only read up to the first lynch on D1 so far. I hope to get through the rest of the game this weekend. However, since I've been asked to claim, I will do so.

I am Guy Gardner (1-shot PGO Vigilante). I am a member of the Green Lantern Corps. The way my role works is that the first time someone targets me with a night action, they die. Once my PGO has been used, I get a one-shot night kill. According to the messages that inHim got (the mod forwarded them to me), I lost my one-shot PGO on N1 (doesn't say who targeted me), and inHim used the vig shot on Peregrine on N2.

I am aware that inHim fakeclaimed miller at the start of the game. I assume this was to prevent investigative roles from targeting him and dying.

BLACKBERRY YOU INVESTIGATE THIS MAN RIGHT NOW.

[Andrius]

@Toasty: Do you roleblock and protect your targets, or do you roleblock your target and make them untargettable?

untargettable

That's news.
Why didn't you claim that WHEN YOU CLAIMED DAY TWO.

[Andrius]

ok shut up reading is tech

[Andrius]

Ok what the hell is going on.
I thought we had a list of CRs and we were killing them with fire.

inKdub is confirmable via shooting people. That's easy. PGO part is EHHHH but we're not looking for mafia we're looking for CR.
I'm inclined to believe BB is town because I simply don't see the mods giving the CR a "Mafia Cop" fakeclaim. (Which is what I would have done, but) and they DO have a history of giving out shit fakeclaims.
So that leaves Subliminal and CJ IIRC.
Hang on self-ISO for something BRB.

[Andrius]

WLC
- vezokpiraka - WLC
- Nikanor - WLC
- zMuffinMan - WLC
- hiplop - WLC

OLC
- tanstalas - OLC
- Andrius - OLC
- ToastyToast - OLC

MISC NON-CULT
- inHimshalibe - 1shot PGO Vig
- Blackberry - Town Mafia-Cop
- Kast - 'Nillized Tracker, Non-Cult
- Oversoul, Tracker/Watcher

???
- Mr. Subliminal, ???
- Candle Jack - Doc --> Rolecop [?]

p.s. Oversoul, Watcher is always more powerful than Tracker. Tracker you've got to pick the correct person killing someone; Watcher you watch the likely NK, BOOM. Got their killer on vidscreen.

Either Nik's been drunk or lurkylurky prob. cult. But CJ's also tapered off lately.

I say we lynch from the bolded names. If it still holds that all WLC members are confirmed non-cult to each other then we're set. tans and I are confirmed non-CR to each other, Toast is confirmed as blocking MINUS SHENANIGANS WITH OVERSOUL OFC.

SUPERPLAN:
1) NO ONE TOUCH OVERSOUL. He needs to Track a claimed PR...
Oh hey.
This game's breakable, remember?
Somehow the game having two trackers seems a bit off.
One's likely scum.
ANYWHO.

So I'm not really liking the Doc --> RoleCop deal but IM NOT SURE if that's CR claiming CRAZY SHIT to save himself or Recruitee trying to stick around.
I'd be much more confident in a Subliminal lynch at this point.

If my list is wrong ANYWHERE tell me.
Otherwise I see no other course of action than hanging CJ or Subliminal.

Vote: Subliminal

predit: tans, he'd still die. Being PGO doesn't mean a kill against you doesn't go through. You just take the sorry bastard with you.
And also, what are you saying? That inKdub_Vig isn't the Vig? Because his shots are fairly confirmable.

[Andrius]

WLC
- vezokpiraka - WLC, Delayer
- Nikanor - WLC, ???
- zMuffinMan - WLC, ???
- hiplop - WLC, ???

OLC
- tanstalas - OLC, Power Copier
- Andrius - OLC, RB
- ToastyToast - OLC,

JK

Untargettablizer

MISC NON-CULT
- inHimshalibe - 1shot PGO Vig
- Blackberry - Town Mafia-Cop
- Kast - 'Nillized Tracker, Non-Cult
- Oversoul, Tracker/Watcher

???
- Mr. Subliminal, ???
- Candle Jack - Doc --> Rolecop [?]

[Andrius]

I swear to god though, if CR also has an active power I will reach through the internet and punch Oa in the nads

I

would have given him one.
Namely JK- let's say this:
CR recruits someone, but also RB's them and Protects them.

A good deal for him, no?
Ensuring his recruit survives, while blocking their action from beginning.
And a nice legit claim.

Not saying its Toast, but its a good claim.

OH.
AND DONT FORGET HE MAKES PEOPLE UNTARGETTABLE.
Pretty much a Doctor to protect the cult too.
HMMM

[Andrius]

inKdub only had one vig shot?!?

[Andrius]

kdub iso blackberry he posted an excel sheet a few pages ago with a claims list etc

[Andrius]

muffin thats not the point of the colors.
WLC are claimed non-CR.
If one is the CR we have no one to blame but them for the misinformation.

Assuming that is true, the OLC is a secondary non-CR confirmation group- not via the mod(s), but via each other. tans confirmed me, I confirmed him. Toast is confirmed via oversoul. (Barring shenanigans, but.)

It doesn't matter if I blocked him last night. That was one night and by no means confirms him as non-CR. You're *seemingly* (and correct me if I'm wrong) saying we should lynch the person who's had more nights to recruit. CJ has had two, but nopoint is dead so effectively one. Subliminal's nopoint is dead, and we blocked him last night so it would be just him. So you're saying that we should be lynching the person who has more recruits under his belt, yes? (Correct me if I'm wrong but that's what you made it sound like in the last lines.)

So hiplop's slightly more scummy because of the "so he lived".
Because when *I'm* scum any modkill on a non-buddy is YESSS. References: See Powerful Wizards Mafia. I was going to be lynched, but someone quoted something of their role. Had the townie been modkilled, I would have survived, unleashed my GODAWESOME SUPERPOWER that night, and made a different on night actions.
ANYWHO.

WE NEED TO GET ORGANIZED.

EVERYONE.
TOP ONE CR SUSPECTS NOW.
AND VOTE THEM.
IF HE ISN'T CJ OR SUBLIM THEN YOU EXPLAIN HOW YOUR MOONBEAMS ARE BETTER THAN MY LOGIC.

[Andrius]

Oh.
>_>
So apparently Subliminal is a white lantern? --;
The hell is this.
So by that logic, if it isn't Subliminal (confirmed via WLC) then its CJLudi.

Unvote, Vote: Ludi

CORRECT ME IF IM WRONG.

[Andrius]

Reason why BLC can't fake-claim WLC?

Because WLC IS ALL CONFIRMED UP INS REMEMBER LIKE ALL GAME SO FAR?
Yeah.

Muffin DONT EVEN.
DONT YOU EVEN TELL ME ALL WHITE LANTERNS ARE NOT CONFIRMED NON-CULT RECRUITER.
BECAUSE THIS IS A PRETTY LATE JUNCTURE TO BE DOING THAT.
WE DIDN'T FUCKING GET ALL THIS WAY FOR YOU TO PULL A TEE HEE SO IF YOU AREN'T ACTUALLY ALL CONFIRMED NON-CULT YOU FUCKING SAY SO RIGHT NOW SO HELP ME GOD THIS GAME IS LOST.

Because I'd fucking give the CR a WLC fakeclaim.

SO.
AM I CLEAR?

Yes. Unless you have a reason to suspect one over the other, I see no reason to go after the lesser threat.

Fair enough. For the record I think its Subliminal but you DO have a point so let's get cracking muffin.
You know who I'm blocking tonight, so don't block me vezok- otherwise Subliminal can get a recruit through.

Put it this way. If CJ is not CR, there are some lies that need to be unearthed tomorrow.

Ok hold on.
If we get rid of lies TODAY and CJ still is lynched WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE?
If he flips black then we're all YAYYYY and one step closer to the prize with no lies.

If we don't dispel lies now and he flips black well no big deal.
If he doesn't flip black and we DONT dispel lies then We go into tonight with misconceptions galore and CR might get ANOTHER recruit putting us FURTHER behind the curve.

I don't know about you, muffin, but I've lost too many games to cults to know that following lies and not being open is a dumb way to go.
We're almost fully massclaimed and the only ways we aren't IIRC is SUBLIMINAL, CR PROSPECT #2 and Nikanor who's head mason or shitz like that.

So you tell me right now if the WLC is

confirmed CR or not because IT DOES MAKE A DIFFERENCE FOR EVERYONE

.
Not doing so for tee-hee masonry reasons is a crock of shit.

Because your good little townies like me and tans have tried our damndest to help out but with tee-hee masons not telling us stuff and CULTZ eatin' up our legit masons then we have LE PROBLEMS.

I REFUSE TO LOSE ANOTHER CULT GAME.

[Andrius]

Votecount 3.2.3

Oversoul (1) - Oversoul

THE
FUCK.
YOU UNVOTE RIGHT NOW GODDAMMIT.

Also, why in God's green earth are you voting toast nik?
Are we following the tinfoil or wut?

[Andrius]

OK WE GOTTA PLAN NIGHT ACTIONS TOO FFFF

BB WHERE YOU AT?

[Andrius]

ohai BB

[Andrius]

Blackberry you read this page and you help me out because the WLC is confusing the shit out of me

[Andrius]

Ok I might be an idiot after all but when the hell did WLC get vanillized?

[Andrius]

Ok.

*deep breath*

So you're saying that the WLC is NOT confirmed Cult-Recruiter.
Let me get this straight before I do anything else.

[Andrius]

I'll be right back.

[Andrius]

OLC
- tanstalas - OLC, Power Copier
- Andrius - OLC, RB
- ToastyToast - OLC,

JK

Untargettablizer

MISC NON-CULT
- inHimshalibe - 1shot PGO Vig
- Blackberry - Town Mafia-Cop
- Kast - 'Nillized Tracker, Non-Cult
- Oversoul, Tracker/Watcher
- vezokpiraka - Delayer
- zMuffinMan - Downgrader <--- CAN WE CONFIRM THIS MAN?

???
- Mr. Subliminal, ???
- Candle Jack - Doc --> Rolecop [?]
- Nikanor - WLC, ???
- hiplop - WLC, ???

NEW LIST OF CR CANDIDATES.
LEAVING NOW B/C TOAST IS OUTSIDE MY APARTMENT WITH COMPANY.

[Andrius]

Unvote

Inclined to believe CJ was, at one point, the town Doctor.

So Subliminal/hiplop/Nikanor is CR 'hood.

COMMENTS PLZ.

[Andrius]

Know what?
Toast blocked Nik N1.
Can't have been him.

Town needs a Doctor, and I don't think dana would be all trolololol no Blue Lantern we need one of each.

So yeah.
hiplop/Subliminal.
That's my new list.

[Andrius]

Town needs a Doctor

Why?

and I don't think dana would be all trolololol no Blue Lantern we need one of each.

Why?

hiplop is probably mafia

No.

Because the setup doesn't have protective roles.
You noticed that yet?
And no one CC'd the Doc.

Because remember last time when it was 4:4:4:4 yeah.
Willing to bet there's at least one lantern from each color here.
INDIGO - MAGNAGM
PURPLE - TOAST [?]
BLUE - CJ [?]
SO YEAH

Also, screw you Magua POE says you three its not that hard.

[Andrius]

Ludi, I believe your play's been steadily protown.
Saint Walker as Doc fits.
And works.

SUBLIM/HIPLOP.
NIK IS CONFIRMED VIA TOAST.

NOT THAT HARD.

[Andrius]

Toasty is a protective role.

who is this clown.

anywho, you're partially right, yes. but one protective role seems a bit on the EHHHH side. and not being full, etc.
I'm outguessing the mod- the game's breakable. We should have done this D1.
I think hiplop and Subliminal should claim.

[Andrius]

I again agree with the need for a massclaim, especially given the fact that the person trying to manipulate night actions is unclaimed

THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS.

[Andrius]

No shit... because if his FAKE-CLAIM is SAINT WALKER, DOCTOR, of course it fits and of course no one can counter-claim it.

You have a point.

Where did Oversoul claim purple? And, this still doesn't explain anything. You're guessing... based on nothing but mod-WIFOM... and you're complaining about the fact that this game could be lost because of assumptions...

No, I meant ToastyToast- the guy with TOAST in his name.

You know what? Fine.
I'll get behind a CJ lynch. I'll settle.
But under the following conditions:
1) Subliminal is in no way shape or form coordinating night actions (Hint: I'm blocking him; why wouldnt I block my #1 suspect)
2) We get SRS BSNS massclaim tomorrow STARTING WITH SUBLIMINAL AND HIPLOP.

you guarantee me that then I'll help string up Ludi.

Fuck it at least there's one scumteam and no SK this time to worry about 3 NKs like last game.

NO BUT SRS.
WITH THE WHOLE WLC IS NOT GUARANTEED CR DAYS AFTER IT WAS IMPORTANT NOW WE GOTTA MAKE UP FOR LOST TIME.
AND IT CANT BE NIK SO ITS GOTTA BE HIPLOP/SUBLIMINAL/LUDI

And I'll settle for a Ludi lynch NOW if we can get SRS BSNS.

[Andrius]

You know I bet if we got hiplop and sublim to claim NOW it'd be a good idea.
Just calling it, you know, now, because hindsight is 20:20.

JUST SAYING GUYS.

[Andrius]

Andrius, why you compromising like this? Can't you sense the apathy in this thread? It's typical of a mislynch in a cult game.

You know this lynch isn't going to flip CR. Hiplop actually has a chance of being CR. He's disappear when he got suspicion. He voted me with no reason. He then scurried off. Look. Please.

I know, Ludi. I know.
But the only way to get through to these clowns is to come in, scream, and compromise.
I feel the apathy. And its suffocating.
Feels like Succession I. And that ending sucked.

I know that one of you, hiplop, Subliminal HAS TO flip CR.
And if it takes you dying first to see the other two through, then so be it.
Because the others won't see it this way and everyone's too opinionated or too apathetic to care.

Toast claimed Orange, didn't he?

Toast claimed Star Sapphire, Violet Lantern IIRC.

I've been fine with a mass claim all day. I don't have an issue with someone other than Subliminal co-ordinating night actions.

Sweet.

There's your doctor fakeclaim.

This is dana modding. Check his fakeclaims in the past.

You're good, Ludi.
Because you know I know that this game's THAT breakable.

See I don't WANT to lynch you Ludi, but I don't think we can turn this around on Subliminal. I'm no Blue Lantern this game.
There's no hope to be had here.

[Andrius]

If one of the claimed WLs is actually the recruiter, well we can blame a loss on them for being stupid and leading us to believe otherwise.

This.
Going to actually read now.

[Andrius]

Unvote. Vote: Mr Subliminal.

If Sublim isn't the recruiter, Toasty can JK Ludi tonight.

Looking at nopoint's flip, I'm thinking that recruits are vanillized. Therefore even if the cult recruited Andy or tans, they wouldn't have a roleblock.

Unvote, Vote: Subliminal

HESHIN A GO GO BABY
BACK IN BUSINESS.

C'MON LUDI BLUE LANTERNS OVER HERE!

[Andrius]

If he ISN'T recruiter then I can block hiplop, so the OLC covers the two last suspects.

[Andrius]

Dear Ludi,

We're lynching Subliminal.
You should join.

<3,
Andy

[Andrius]

Hey hiplop.
We're lynching Subliminal.
You should stop being a twat and join.

<3,
Andy

[Andrius]

Andrius roleblocks Mr Subliminal - We would vastly prefer that Andrius roleblock Toasty at this point, as that would have all of the CR candidates blocked. But, for whatever derp reason, Andrius thinks we're the recruiter, and it's easier to say "roleblock us" than it is to convince him otherwise.

SOMEONE's gotta do the right thing here.
Toasty's not CR unless shenanigans with Oversoul.
So yeah.
Because Nik/Toast would have worked perfectly D1... but the argument that recruition comes AFTER death...

HEY MODS: If someone was culted and killed the same night, would they die before they were culted, or after?

Someone gives us a ring - We'd really like one.

[Andrius]

andy vote ludi plz

?? <3 <3 <3

NO U

Ok I feel like we're just getting into a spammy-screaming match.
Why don't we all stop spamming/yelling/trolling and come back later.

[Andrius]

I know.
but now we're all either lurking or posting near-ceaselessly.

You know, with the recent trend of Nik and Toast lurking, had it not been for the mods saying NAR NAR NAR I would think they're CR and Cultee. BUUUTTTT
And yes, the D2 spasm would have been distancing.

[Andrius]

Mr Subliminal receives a warning for the excessive use of caps. Please stop it.

lol

[Andrius]

FFS Andrius just end the day.
Mods, I wasn't aware we were subject to this BS-rule. But hey, saving those words for postgame

Its in the Ruleset dummy.

I'm not going to end the day without:
a) NIGHT PLAN WITHOUT YOU BEING INVOLVED
b) preferably you hanging from a gibbet

for the sport of your own crows

c) BB in town. He's V/LA and the last thing we need is a "oh i missed my action i was V/LA"

[Andrius]

11.Caps lock (or the appearance thereof) can and will get you modkilled.

This one Magua.

[Andrius]

I really feel like fighting the mods right now. Hold me back.
Or don't.

Pick your fights, Magua. If you want this, then do it. I won't stop you from doing something you deem to be right.

[Andrius]

But if you go go in style.

[Andrius]

A

[Andrius]

Hmmmm CAPSLAWKE doesn't fit... its one short...
I should feel bad for going along with this, BUT... :/

C

[Andrius]

-A--------
6gussesremain
C

L

[Andrius]

Just no, people. You can play the game AND have fun without spamming. Especially repetitive spamming. If I could erase posts, I would. Go, troll the Children of Hurin sign-up thread instead. (Sorry, Plum <3)

We're not spamming. We're having a constructive dialogue. See? Magua was trying to SUBLIMINALLY get me to hammer by using a simple game to influence my thoughts.
Quite elegant, actually.

-A--------
5guessesleft
CL

PEDIT: It was HAMMERTIME. Seriously Andy. Just fucking end it.

Nope. I liked the game too.

Sub is Cult Recruiter.

I noticed, actually.


You'd be hammering Ludi.
Which you shouldn't do.
You should vote Subliminal.

[Andrius]

Tomorrow as in D5 or tomorrow as in September 7th?
Both are unacceptable.
You don't need time.
Your Role PM is in your inbox.
You're obviously stalling for time.

[Andrius]

Tomorrow as in the next Day Phase.
We have the CR caught and at L-1. Someone make Rosso proud.

Eh, no. Now plz.
(p.s. who's Rosso?)

[Andrius]

Rosso Carne.
I'm not going to claim right now. If my other head decides to come in and succumb to peer pressure, then balls to him. But there is no motivation for us to claim right now. We're all MCing tomorrow, aren't we?

We already HAVE MC'd.
Everyone but you, hiplop, and Nik.
But that isn't the point.
The point is, we want to lynch you.
And you should claim.

[Andrius]

Orly Andy? What's your rolename? What does muffin do? Why should we claim when Ludi is the leading wagon?

Muffin's a Downgrader [?]. Because you're about to be the leading wagon.

Oh, ffs. I leave for an hour and not only do we get a warning, but there's this?

We're an anticult role. We need a ring to use it, which we don't have, so we haven't taken any actions at all the entire game. That is the entirety of the claim you're going to get from us.

I'm an anticult role too. I'm a RB. I stop people from taking actions. I target CR --> no cultee.
COOL CLAIM BRO.
How about them Fullclaims?

[Andrius]

I've been waiting for this...

I
AM
ISIS!

Should I grab my crumbs?

[Andrius]

How about them Fullclaims?

I understand how you might have missed the gist of our response with all them words and sentences and stuff, so I've summarized it for you: No.

YES

[Andrius]

Andrius, with all due respect: we don't give two shits about your (or, really, anyone's) rolename. We're satisfied you're not CR because of the tanstalas interaction N1 and the fact that NPIAU was the N1 recruit.

@Subliminal: Your motivation is that you are under suspicion as cult recruiter. Your unwillingness to claim whilst trying to control night actions is as infuriating as it is anti-town. So hurry the hell up and claim.

I understand how you might have missed the gist of our response with all them words and sentences and stuff, so I've summarized it for you: No.

You asked for my name.
I gave it.

[Andrius]

You asked for my name.
I gave it.

I take no responsibility for other head's derp attempts at arguments.

[Andrius]

YOU asked ME to NAMECLAIM.
So I DID.
Why are you giving me crap for doing WHAT YOU ASKED?

[Andrius]

I thought your whole premise was that Saint Walker was a fakeclaim, and now you're saying that originally you were stretching and reaching and now you're not?

Please die now.

/inb4SubliminalclaimsIndigo-1orHalJordan

[Andrius]

I don understand what is happening anymore.

unvote
vote ludi

Don't lie. Using the word 'anymore' implies you knew what was happening before.

Yeahhhh somehow I don't think vezok cares/is paying attention.
Apathy FTW.
That was the hammer wasn't it?

[Andrius]

FYI, Andrius is a cult recruit.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

CR would have to be a TWAT to recruit me. Seriously, does anyone here NOT know how much I dislike non-town roles? Especially in borked games like this one? Anyone remember BNM? K THOUGHT SO.

Anywho, we've also got Kdub here to shoot whoever isn't lynched, and the OLC can cover blocking them in the meantime.
How about this:
LYNCH SUBLIMINAL
If he flip CR, great. Problem solved.
IF he doesn't then Kdub shoots CJ, OLC blocks CJ and Nikanor.
That way we're good with EVERYONE'S top choices set.

[Andrius]

I also cannot be the CR because I turn into an elemental needed by the Entity.

I would pretend I know what's going on.
But I don't.

Yeah, the plan is good. Lynch Subliminal.
A: HE FLIPS NON-CULT RECRUITER. BLOCK AND KILL LUDI. ALSO BLOCK NIKANOR.
B: HE FLIPS CULT RECRUITER. Back to the regularly scheduled program.

CAN WE HAS AGREEMENT?

[Andrius]

Ok the "arrogant fucktwits" need death.
Sorry.
NOT CLAIMING IN A MASSCLAIM IS STUPID.

All CRs need to be able to fake an action.
Esp. in a vanilla-less game.

So, you're faking a "oh we need a ring before we get GODAWESOME POWERZ".
Yeah.
MMHMM
Buying more time waiting for a ring.
Yep.

[Andrius]

Kdub, Berry please hammer this man. While I don't want a massclaim, Mr sub has been for everyone claiming and he coordinating, yet when people ask him to claim he refuses, and then switches to what I've been saying all along that randomly claiming is bad. He is desperate, and changed his tune to whatever he thinks people want to hear.

Hammer him

[Andrius]

The fact that some of the WL are fine with voting someone else that got the WL PM and yet aren't responding tells me that ALL OF THE PEOPLE claiming to have received the WL PM are either lying or hiding something (such as, only those with WL PMs can be recruited... nopoint for example). Why are we letting Muffin/hiplop/Nikanor slide by when it's shown they are lying about their WL PM and nobody will reveal what exactly the WL PM is?

Masonary my ass.

...

Anyone willing to vote Mr. S should be equally willing to vote hiplop.

Both are claimed WL and both have claimed to got the PM. The only difference is Mr. S is acting too crazy to be the CR and hiplop is staying under the radar too much to be town.

Ok so we lynch Subliminal, we block hiplop and Nikanor and Ludi if he doesn't flip CR.
Problem solved.

STOP WITH THE BIG TEXT THE MODS MIGHT GET ANGRY.

[Andrius]

tans, vote Subliminal.
Kast, let's do your plan but in REVERSE: LYNCH SUBLIMINAL.
I actually agree with Sublim on one thing: tans, you're not a n00b stop being a twit.

WE LYNCH SUBLIMINAL, AND WE DO IT NOW.

[Andrius]

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSS <3 vezok. We CAN lynch CRs, we just have to be UNITED.

kast stop posting irrelevant formatting crap about modposts. it probably doesnt matter.

RE: THIS PLAN

Ludi/Sub flips CR:
Toasty jailkeeps hiplop/Nikanor/Muffin
Andrius blocks me
Oversoul tracks Kast/tans
vezok delays hiplop/Nikanor/Muffin
Blackberry investigates hiplop/Nikanor/Muffin

Ludi/Sub flips non-CR:
Toasty jailkeeps Ludi/Sub (whoever we didn't lynch)
Andrius blocks me
Oversoul tracks Toasty
vezok delays hiplop/Nikanor/Muffin
Blackberry investigates hiplop/Nikanor/Muffin
(Ludi investigates hiplop/Nikanor/Muffin if we didn't lynch him)

Why am I blocking Kdub?
I'll block nik/hiplop if he doesn't flip CR for whatever lolreason.

[Andrius]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
KDUB
HAHAHAHAHAHA
BLACK LANTERN AGAIN

<3, but srs bro.

@Andy/OS/Tans/Vezok-
You guys all abandoned the CJ wagon for Subliminal (for practically no reason), but indicated suspicion of both at some point. Let's see the votes follow through on the previous statements.

this sounds really bad.
I subscribe to the "mods love flavor too much to actually try and make the game unbreakable" so yeah.
ANYWHO.

Will wait for that there claiming order.

CATCHIN UP WHEEE
FucK SKEEEPING

[Andrius]

hang on kast catching up all will be well

[Andrius]

k i lied i did a votecount in my game first

[Andrius]

OH HANG ON I HAVE SOMETHING I MADE WHILE TRYING TO LOOPHOLE THE MODS


just a second darlings its good

[Andrius]

Cleared this baby with Dekes.

[Andrius]

Ok so its really small but if you take the url link you can go to the source and fullview, yes?
Whatever i saved this baby so we're good.

[Andrius]

@Andy-
To be clear, are you claiming that you do not suspect CJ/Ludi of being CR and have no intention to vote him today (nor intention of blocking him last night) despite yesterday's posts to the contrary?

No I suspect him its him or Nik I think.
I wont' say more on the blockage not wanting to claim out of turn or anything like that but I'm fine with dead_Ludi after Magua didn't flip CR.

OH BY THE WAY. MAGUA.
I SEE YOUR FLIP GOT JANITORED TO FLIP 1shot COMMUTER.
That sucks.

[Andrius]

I thought we established Kill happens before recruit when the question came up over nopoint night two.

hiplop claims idiot.
Great.
Another one.

Ludi did you have a result?

Toasty is confirmed mafia. He has blocked three power roles two of which were in no danger of death.

I think we're all moving too fast.
We need to slow down and think this through.
We should lynch Ludi/Nik.
Top two.
And Nik is BP [?] so yeah SKETCH

I got no result. I targeted hiplop.

Well, at least he didn't block BB. (I didn't.)

Ludi did you have a result?

Toasty is confirmed mafia. He has blocked three power roles two of which were in no danger of death.

oh wait is this your result?

Toasty mafia
Oversoul town (f#ck)
nikanor CR
Two others are town
Ludi town
Tans ???
Andrius recruited

iPhone. Post later. XD

CR'd have to be an idiot to recruit me. lol i hate cults and mafia.
at least, its someone who didn't play last game.
kast would know not to recruit me.

Ummmm, RoleCop = Mafia Cop Kast.
Both get dem' mafiaz dead upon targeting.

.

You don't need to worry about vezok

What's with the period?

[Andrius]

ok im going to bed before anyone else posts i need sleep and i gotta write that paper FML

[Andrius]

Subliminal's flip did not get janitored.

That is his role before he received his WL ring.

Mine is similar (in terms of having a different role when I get my ring).

It's also purple, if you couldn't already tell.

I was making fun of Magua's "HEY GUIZ IM TEH ENTITY WITH GODPOWERS" which turned into "HEY GUYS IM NOT CLAIMING" to "OH WAIT IM CULT COUNTER SOME REDICULOUSLY OP ROLE".
So you're also saying that you won't flip your WL power upon death?
What is this madness?

Ok, time for business

At leeast one of the people already claiming between Ludi and Toasty is lieing. I have a lot to say on the subject, and I have more to say after this, but Toasty went

nowhere

last night.

My other stuff to say after this is actually kinda important for massclaimings as well. So... ya.

VOTE: Ludi

I know this is out of order, but I might not be here for the rest of the day and I don't want to hold up this game

HAHAHAHAHA
My gut was to call Toast black.
But then I realized

he's mexican

he could have been delayed, so. :/
We'll see what happens, but if it wasn't you know who then we lynch Cultee_TT later today (Lynch 2) regardless of whether we get the CR or not to keep their numbers down.

Confirmed based on...?

If he has a result, he has a result, if he doesn't, he doesn't. He should be able to claim before role blockers tell us who they blocked.

Not claiming till last. If I claim roleblocked then andrius and other roleblockers have an easy claim to fake by saying they targeted me. I agree with kasts post 100%. Both mafia and cult might be lying and it's best not to let them know. Blockers should claim first

So am I claiming now or aren't I?
You know what screw it.
I blocked Kdub, going with his own plan from:

Ludi/Sub flips CR:
Toasty jailkeeps hiplop/Nikanor/Muffin
Andrius blocks me
Oversoul tracks Kast/tans
vezok delays hiplop/Nikanor/Muffin
Blackberry investigates hiplop/Nikanor/Muffin

Ludi/Sub flips non-CR:
Toasty jailkeeps Ludi/Sub (whoever we didn't lynch)
Andrius blocks me
Oversoul tracks Toasty
vezok delays hiplop/Nikanor/Muffin
Blackberry investigates hiplop/Nikanor/Muffin
(Ludi investigates hiplop/Nikanor/Muffin if we didn't lynch him)

Funny because him being blocked would explain the no-vig kill and would cover him being Black. lol
Anywho, I didn't block Nik/hiplop like I said, sticking to the plan while also hopefully psyching them out if they are CR.

ANYHOW.

Also, Kdub didn't flip his role being crossed out so I'm confused as to whether or not they get Vanillized upon recruition. :/ Perhaps nopoint's BPvest was used up? Meh.

Anyhow yeah I claimed BB/vezok however you want to do it then do it.

[Andrius]

UPDATED:

N1

Andrius -> tanstalas (roleblock)
tanstalas -> Andrius (stole roleblocking power)
Oversoul -> CJ (no result)
vezok -> Oversoul (delay, presumably successful)
Toast -> Nikanor (jail)
??? -> Kdub (presumably FM)
Blackberry -> FM (died)
Ludi -> Andrius (protect)
Kast -> tans (tans->Andrius)

N2

Kast -> Blackberry (no result, vanillised N2)
Oversoul -> CJ (no result)
Ludi -> npiau (protect)
Andrius -> subliminal (roleblock)
muffin -> subliminal (downgrade)
tanstalas -> WLC (roleblock? vanillised N2)
vezok -> Kast (delay)
Blackberry -> muffin ("target" is not mafia)
Toast -> Oversoul (jail)

N3

Toast -> Ludi (jail)
Ludi -> hiplop (no result)
Blackberry -> ???
Oversoul -> Toast (Toast went nowhere)
Andrius -> Kdub
vezok -> ???

----

[Andrius]

Why are we ignoring getting claims from nikanor/hiplop?

Still on iPhone but why would nikanor be BP town when we already had a BP town flip???

Idk I'm not town_leader this game.

I don't know can we lynch him and Toast now?

[Andrius]

Given we KNOW CR is going to have some form of BP and TT is almost confirmed black via the other toast.

[Andrius]

Toast and Nikanor are the two I'd love to lynch today if I called the shots. Nik CR. Toast scum.

ToastyToast is Cultee via OverToast- he saw him go nowhere.
How do you get mafia from that?
I get "Culted something" from that, be it Town_JK or Mafia_JK or what have you.

[Andrius]

But yes Nik needs a hangin' too.
Preferably a claimin' first.

[Andrius]

Hang on I think I know what happened. One sec'.

[Andrius]

Waiting on les moderates now. :/
Please hold. Your call is very important to us.

[Andrius]

Hang on I think I know what happened. One sec'.

Waiting on les moderates now. :/
Please hold. Your call is very important to us.

Ok.
So apparently my action change came in too late, and they took the former action.
After the Sublim. flip I sent in a RB on Ludi, thinking that if it wasn't Magua then it was Ludi, as we talked about D3.
I switched it to Kdub having reread a bit and seeing the plan (after deadline was over). And since there's no notice of "GET THEM ACTIONS IN" or "NIGHT IS OVER" or "ITS DAY FOUR NOW" I wound up submitting it in between night being over and the thread opening. So I THOUGHT I submitted it on Kdub.
Had to hear back from los moderates to hear which action was counted because I'm a twit and don't pay attention to deadlines.

I don't know WHY Magua thought so highly of Nikanor

hint: magua was dumb

because the White Lanterns aren't all confirmed non-lantern

seriously we had to pull teeth to get that out of them

so we wasted time thinking they were non-CR when they weren't

seriously guys

.

Anyway, at this point its either Nik or Ludi. And since the mods like broken games we have time to lynch BOTH! I might look into Kdub's iso if my headache doesn't put me in bed early.

tl;dr: I blocked Ludi, not Kdub.

CR candidates:
Ludi
Nikanor

[Andrius]

Why the hell are people voting before we claim.

If people do not unvote until we get claims I will intentionally lie/not reveal any of my results >:-(

If y'all are going be dumb I'll be dumb too

I'm not voting.
(Am I?)

[Andrius]

But yes at this point consider my vote on Ludi and Nikanor.
AT THE SAME TIME.

[Andrius]

Waiting for claims.
If this doesn't happen soon I'm going to start a game of hangman.
This thread is more dead than Michael Jackson while we wait for BB and vezok. *sigh*

[Andrius]

_ _ _ _ _

Begin.

yeah, I'm waiting on claims too.
I still think Ludi-CR is possible, and probably the best lead atm.
One of the roleblockers is a recruit, and they targeted me.

O

Waiting for les claimes.
Hi, there's only TWO RBs and I targeted Ludi (hint he was blocked) so you're lying or Ludi is or someone else is a RB[?]

[Andrius]

^O was for hangman BTW

[Andrius]

ALSO GOING TO THROW OUT "R" AND "A" FOR LETTERS.
Toast this game only works if you're here dammit.

[Andrius]

^O was for hangman BTW

_ _ O _ _

Also, me and you know who are trying to study. Seriously.

I don't actaully understand that. You trying to say you're trying to study while posting hangman here?

I SAID A AND R WHY THEY NOT UP BRO?

[Andrius]

nm im an idiot ok read that wrong.

[Andrius]

Oversoul we're waiting on more night actions not lynching yet.
Idk what's taking so long but whatever. :/

[Andrius]

I think:

Toasty is scum and is not in fact a roleblocker but a normal goon and he is working with Andrius and claimed Andy roleblocks n3 and n2 to confirm himself

You're shitting me.

[Andrius]

I think:

Toasty is scum and is not in fact a roleblocker but a normal goon and

he is working with Andrius

and claimed Andy roleblocks n3 and n2 to confirm himself

You're shitting me.

Forgot the emphasis.

[Andrius]

everyone's claimed night actions but you and vezok, BB

[Andrius]

Consider my vote placed on Nik.

[Andrius]

BB I'm fine with a Nik lynch.
But we gotta do this legit.
Move slow, rationalize.
We can wait for you and vezok to claim.
Toast you're an idiot vezok only needs to claim if he targeted you. If not then you're 100% cult (there's no other explanation, yes?).

Vote: Nikanor

Voting since we have two lynches and if someone's a twit and quickhammers then we can still lynch them. lol

[Andrius]

There's no room for lies, Toast.
I blocked Ludi.
He claimed RB'd.
Where does that not work?

OS is not a recruit. I think recruits are Vanillized upon recruition (praying the game isn't MORE broken than it already is OH WAIT TROLOLOL) as that's the only way for BALANCE. So you're saying OS is just pulling bullshit results out of his ass?
Yeah.
Because after you are lynched (and in this instance, presumably flip town) he'd be next. NOT THAT HARD LOGIC.
IT MAKES NO SENSE AS SCUM/CULT MOTIVES.

OS is town.

[Andrius]

You'll get one post from me before my V/LA. <3

[Andrius]

LET IT RAIN OVER ME
/not my one post

[Andrius]

I think Nik's been culted. His lurkiness and not being here isn't typical, and it'd explain his sudden shift in activity over D3/D4.

I didn't target toasty.

Then Toast is confirmed Cultee?
So Nikanor CAN'T be.
Dammit, how the hell does this work?
TOAST HOW THE HELL DOES SOMEONE NO ACTION AND STILL BE TOWN IN THIS INSTANCE.
You're trying to turn this into a 1v1 with ANYONE:
you're already moving 1v1 with oversoul on the ground HE'S lying.

WHICH WOULD ALSO INDICATE THE MODERATOR IS LYING ABOUT FOLLOWING THE ORDER THINGY.

WHICH MIGHT MEAN THE CULT RECRUITS FLIPPED WERE RECRUITED ON THE SAME NIGHT THEY DIED (or just one of them anyways).

/inb4ANOTHERbastardgamefromdana

Ok whatever until BB stops smoking "im not telling" shrooms then I'll pretend it doesn't matter.

A redirector already flipped?

Though this is correct.
BB shrooms are bad for you.
As is weed.

WL Pm said: The colour the mods sent our pm in, was not visible because of the white background on the site. They transferred it from another area of the internet.

WAIT.

LET ME GET THIS STRAIGHT.

The ORIGINAL color was unreadable.

So the mods had to clarify with you afterwards.


So, you're saying...


THAT THIS "MASONRY" WAS BECAUSE THE MODS DONE FUCKED UP?





SO APPARENTLY THIS MEANS THE GAME ISNT AS BROKEN AS WE THOUGHT.

BUT THE MODS MADE IT BROKEN.

THANKS FOR HELPING, GUYS.

TROLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

What about Andrius's over eagerness to clear himself (look at that google doc photo)? Do you find that anti-town as well?

Bro you're on moonshine. There's better ways to clear onesself than posting a grainy picture of a doc banned by the mods. lol
But srs.
You call that over-eagerness you should read BNM and then see me on "HEY GUYS IMMA CRUMB UNTIL EVERYONE CALLS ME OBVTOWN".

ha i posted before you prodded me

erm I mean I'm not lurking.

In first place for Lurkee_Cultee...

Quickly here. Nikanor got jailkept by Toasty (the above L-1 voter) on night one. How did he possibly recruit nopoint in that situation?

Unless toasty is lying here. He actively lied by saying he jail kept me last night as well.

Hold on while I check if it is possible Toasty is the CR, who fakeclaimed jailkeeper and actions over the course of the game

I have no freaking idea, Ludi.


The Ludi/TT exchange is pure gold.
And I'm liking Ludi's play more and more.
How about we lynch Nikanor.
I like that idea.

LUDI.
TOASTY VOTES ARENT HELPING.
NIKANOR FIRST.

GUYS.
WE'RE MISsING THE PONTI

TOAST NO ACTION'D LAST NIGHT>
IS THEREFORE CULTEE UNLESS OVERSOUL WAS CULTED TOO AND IS BUSSING? LOLNO DOESNT WORK THAT WAY NOT ENOUGH NIGHTS

Probably one shot ability that was enhanced by a motivator

Nope.
last game i couldn't motivate 1shot abilities.

Other Thoughts:
-Game play has been much more passive and "follow the crowd" on the whole than previous BNMafia.

Kast.
How was playing 'follow the "COP"' day one a bad idea?
How was following the mason's orders a BAD IDEA?
Dude, you forget.
I was TOWN COP last game.
I was

running through

lynching those

hos

scumbags like drano, DESPITE BEING ROLEBLOCKED.
I OWNED THAT GAME. THAT WAS ME AT MY BEST.
I'm a support role here.
What do you want me to do, fake guilties on people and hope they flip scum?
Idk how nikanor did it but I follow SOLID STUFF and Cop guilties = SOLID.
Its not "follow the crowd", its "follow that there masonry and CLAIMED COP".
You tell me what's wrong with that.

Dude you read Ludi and tell me where he's been distinctly anti-town.
It was Subliminal who was being a twit and going "WELP CANT BE ME SO ITS GOTTA BE LUDI" deal and he was an arse for fakeclaiming a shitstorm anyway so.

<3 MAGUA, BUT SRS BRO

Bro, tans and I cross-clear each other as CR.
Unless ofc I was recruited N1 but that was nopoint, so.

MODS: If I physically daykill Toast and Nikanor in Canada, will they flip in-thread? Also, will those count seperately from the lynches? Thanks.

Nikanor (if he doesn't flip CR you can lynch me instead) > Ludi > Andrius

I can't be CR.
Thanks for playing.

[Andrius]

i dont follow

[Andrius]

im still confused dude.
sorry
one more catchup post then i have to pack then sleep FFFFFF

[Andrius]

This is next on my catchup list.

[Andrius]

Ok do I have to read this thread to know we're still trying to lynch either Nikanor or Ludi as the main CR candidates?
Because that's what I'm seeing.

Vote: Nikanor

Honestly, we have two lynches.
We might as well use one.
A flip would give us alot to go off of.

[Andrius]

nopoint's comments eliminates Andrius as the CR (IMO).

Non-CR due to Recruit's talk:
* Toasty
* Ludi
* Kast
* Andrius
* Pretty Blackberry

...

Maybe I should look @ hiplop closer just in case XD.

Bro I've been cleared since D2. Me and tans cross-confirm each other up ins.

[Andrius]

Know what.
I'm fine with Ludi.
Because we've got two lynches thanks to broken game.
We really need a flip from Nik/Ludi and I'll throw in my hat to whichever wagon at this point.
I'll have you know, however, I don't expect him to flip CR. The OLRolecop deal is def. sketch though, but ehhh

Unvote; Vote: Ludi

[Andrius]

Released from the Bonds of Life

-

Ghostwriter

,

Anti-Monitor (1-shot PGO Publisher)

, member of the

Sinestro Corps

, aligned with the

mafia

, lynched D2.2.
-

kondi2424

PeregrineV,

Kilowog (Drill Sergeant)

, member of the

Green Lantern Corps

, aligned with
-

inHimshallibe

Kdub,

Guy Gardner (1-Shot PGO Vigilante)

,

member of the

Green Lantern Corps

member of the

Black Lantern Corps

, died Night 3.

Since apparently asking the mods 20 questions is in:

Are the people who flip Black Lantern actually aligned with anyone? Are they aligned with the town? The mafia? The Black Lanterns? The cult?

Because it doesn't say.

[Andrius]

Unvote

I'll give you that one post, Ludi.

You're CR because they say so and they won't help lynch Nikanor_CR until you flip non-CR and their eyes are opened.

[Andrius]

Ok what the hell OS if you think Nik is CR you vote him.
At this point I'm just waffling between sticking with my guns and voting Nik or doing LE COMPROMISE and voting Ludi.
We get two lynches, does it matter the order if we're convinced they HAVE to be in these two?

Shit guys.

Vote: Nikanor

So what's this about me being scum, os?

[Andrius]

OOOOOOH
THE HAMMER
I KINDA WANT TO DO IT JUST SO WE GET A FLIP

...

IM NOT SURE

[Andrius]

FLIPPING A COIN
HEADS LUDI DIES

[Andrius]

flipped it like 6 times.
im too indecisive lol
went a "BEST OF THREE" then "BEST OF FIVE"

So yeah.
>_____________>

[Andrius]

Vote: Ludi

HEADS

[Andrius]

Also, mods, I was commenting on the fact that dead black lanterns didn't flip as "aligned" with anyone.

[Andrius]

Oh wait.
I didn't unvote first.
Maybe thats a sign I'm actually supposed to think.

[Andrius]

Bro OS he's not dead. lol

[Andrius]

I did.
Then realized I'd have to unvote first.
Then started second-guessing myself again. lol

predit: lol @ Dekes

[Andrius]

Ok to me the only really funky thing is the ORANGE RING shenanigans that happened with Ludi.
That's like, the only thing I don't understand.
And there's like, NO FLAVOR BASIS for this to happen. :/

Unless tans is lying? IDEK

[Andrius]

Unvote

Ludi why's your vote sitting idle?

[Andrius]

IMMA GO NOT THINK ABOUT THIS GAME FOR AWHILE
and then come back in like 10 because im bored and then think about it some more
and deliberate some more
and not come to a satisfactory conclusion
:/

[Andrius]

i was playing CS. just got killed.

Vote: Ludi

going back to play now.
whatever
after you flip non-CR we're lynching Nikanor.
Sorry bro.

[Andrius]

I think andrius knew I was cult recruiter

TBH it was you/Magua/Nik.
So compromising is YAY.

Also, gamebreaking game is breakable.
Thanks mods for the awesome game.

NOT. SERIOUSLY LUDI. WHAT WAS WITH THAT ORANGE CLAIM. SERIOUSLY.

[Andrius]

I will miss you, Ludi.
Seriously.
I'm sad.
In that brotherly love sort of way, how you know your brother is your enemy but you still respect him and love him nonetheless.

HAIL CEASAR
FOR WE WHO ARE ABOUT TO DIE
SALUTE YOU

[Andrius]

Seriously, Ludi, much love.
We should hydra.
I don't even.
Just... <3

[Andrius]

Oh hey Ludi if you tried to recruit me I would have died.
Figured there'd be no point in claiming that, but yeah.

MODS LOVE ME ENOUGH.

[Andrius]

DEKES GET YER ASS IN HERE WE DONT NEED FLAVOR JUST DEATH TO THE MAGNACORPS2.0

[Andrius]

modbait

[Andrius]

What's grounds for a modkill?
Posting a pic?
>_________>

[Andrius]

Just checked. Pics are fine.
I'm not Walker anyway otherwise I'd have been a million more times excited to be in this game.
Now its just a burden.

[Andrius]

ok srsly I will sit here and wait for this goddamn flip I don't want to play CS and miss it.
I want to be here for the glory.
The glory that was stolen from me the first time through.

DEATH TO THE MAGNACORPS

[Andrius]

Ludi, I am pretty sure that is grounds for a modkill, but whatever.

Bah. Go town. We had a good run. :\

OOOOOOH you were talking about ludi.
Well we already lynched him.
If they modkill a guy who was just lynched out of spite then I might honor the dead and CAPS TO DEATH