Mafia 75: Return of the Mafia! TOWN WINS (really late)

[Matt_S]

Yeah, I meant stressed syllables in the poem.

What he said. EEny MEEny MIney MO CATCH a TIger BY his TOE. IF he HOllers MAKE him PAY FIFty DOLlars EVery DAY. I believe that's all 16. And yeah that's probably not how the syllables divide up in the dictionary, but I don't care.

(I can't believe this is an argument)
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But thanks for reacting, Matt.

(me either)

I may be looking into this too much, but your "thank you" sounds more like "I see your scum association". But anyways, I see your point in voting for him, but newbies asking for mercy isn't necessarily a scumtell. It's a newbie tell. I've asked people to go easy on me in non-mafia games. And both scum and townie newbs will probably ask for lenience. I guess I just sympathize with andersonw though.

Unvote VanDamien

[killa seven]

what up im checkin in.. wow alot has been posted i was here at like 8 and it was still locked ayways im kinda drunk ill be back with my vote i gotta read slow

[Matt_S]

what up im checkin in.. wow alot has been posted i was here at like 8 and it was still locked ayways im kinda drunk ill be back with my vote i gotta read slow

I believe you.

[Rosso Carne]

issue with this game.

ill get back to ou tommoow.

[Incognito]

Unvote; Vote: Matt_S

I don't care much for the argument between letters and syllables but the bigger picture is your vote on VanDamien after he voted for andersonw seemed a bit too knee-jerk response-ish. I can't ignore that as just a newbie tell as you seem to be asking for.

[Matt_S]

Unvote; Vote: Matt_S

I don't care much for the argument between letters and syllables but the bigger picture is your vote on VanDamien after he voted for andersonw seemed a bit too knee-jerk response-ish. I can't ignore that as just a newbie tell as you seem to be asking for.

I should have never done that, you're right. Andersonw wasn't in danger of being lynched so I shouldn't have done anything. That's why I unvoted, because I realized I overreacted. I just thought we had better things to discuss than a newbie saying he's a newbie.

[thenextepisode]

1. I dont much like battle mage's miller post, do millers even always know that their millers?
2. the eeny meeny argument is just plain stupid, he meant beats to count out. theres sixteen
3. when i hear delayed cult recruiter, i assume that he is delayed in when he gets to start recruiting, maybe a couple of days

[Incognito]

Unvote; Vote: Matt_S

I don't care much for the argument between letters and syllables but the bigger picture is your vote on VanDamien after he voted for andersonw seemed a bit too knee-jerk response-ish. I can't ignore that as just a newbie tell as you seem to be asking for.

I should have never done that, you're right. Andersonw wasn't in danger of being lynched so I shouldn't have done anything. That's why I unvoted, because I realized I overreacted. I just thought we had better things to discuss than a newbie saying he's a newbie.

The thing is I don't think VanDamien's vote was only inspired by someone claiming to be a newbie. Andersonw stated that we should basically "forgive" him if he says something stupid. Thus he was "playing the newbie card". I generally don't like statements like this because they seem pre-emptive; i.e. he can patch a lot of his comments up to being new and force us to consider him unreadable, which is generally unhealthy for the game. The same kind of thing applies to skitzer's comment about Battle Mage.

[Battle Mage]

Battle Mage, I'm not a big fan of the way you've claimed Miller either. We know that the Cop is dead, and you seem to be doubting the existence of another investigative role. Despite this, you've still claimed Miller because Sir Tornado said that Miller claims should be made early to prevent wasted Cop investigations. If you doubt the existence of another Cop-like role, why do you still feel the need to claim Miller?

Because IF there is another investigative role they are sure to investigate me at some point. This way we dont waste an investigation.

BM

@Skitzer-I dont claim absurd things. Act scummy? Thats debatable.

[TheSweatpantsNinja]

Vote Matt_S

for strange reaction to anderson votes.

[GSGold]

Well, I haven't played forum mafia before, so I'm not used to this pace, but this is going to be pretty fun.

I'm going to go ahead and

Vote: Battle Mage

[curiouskarmadog]

Well, I haven't played forum mafia before, so I'm not used to this pace, but this is going to be pretty fun.

I'm going to go ahead and

Vote: Battle Mage

Welcome..and is there any reason you feel BM deserves your vote?

[Battle Mage]

Quote deleted by mod

Erm, im pretty sure you shouldnt be posting here after you are dead, especially role based info. Not that i dont appreciate the sentiment- i dont think i'd ever have guessed that you killed the Aggressor
Pretty useful role.

Please dont post any more.

BM

[Battle Mage]

1. I dont much like battle mage's miller post, do millers even always know that their millers?

I believe you are the second person to say this. Actually, thinking about it, in my last modded game, i had a player who wasnt told about being Miller. But, in my experience, the opposite is normally true. The only time it would be fair to have a hidden miller, is if there was flavour which gave him a chance of working it out.

3. when i hear delayed cult recruiter, i assume that he is delayed in when he gets to start recruiting, maybe a couple of days

this was my first impression too.

BM

[Battle Mage]

I'm going to

FOS: Battle Mage

. Yeah, he tried to start a bandwagon, but I was thinking the same thing he was when I read Nemesis's post. Granted I've never played in games with delayed anythings(or cults at all). One thing I am a little surprised by is his miller claim, but if he were scum then claiming miller after a cop dies seems a little dumb. If I were town and my cop died, I think I'd make sure that any backup cop doesn't waste any investigations. I think it's enough to be a little suspicious but I'm not going to vote him yet.

What confused me was that Battle Mage cast his initial random vote towards Khelvaster. Not suspicious since it is a random vote, but he says

I know there not a lot of love loss between you and I, but i'd rather if you're town, we dont interfere with each others scumdars in the game, by arguing and getting OMGUSsy.

Now this may be my inexperience talking, but I think if you want to avoid OMGUS then it's best not to vote for the person to begin with. To me it sounds like he's just trying to get Khelvaster to unvote to avoid a bandwagon on himself.

I see what you're saying. To put it simply, me and Khelv have history, and as we dont exactly get on, he was a suitable random vote. Note also that as soon as i had a reason to vote for someone else, i did. Conversely, his vote on me seemed more than random, and i felt we were going down the slippery slope of 'lynch him because i hate him' rather than 'lynch him because he is scummy'. Obviously i was trying to get him to unvote, or at least think clearly and objectively about the game.

BM

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[GSGold]

Welcome..and is there any reason you feel BM deserves your vote?

I'm not very well up on strategy, but miller seems like a pretty convenient rolecall for scum. Especially if there's a chance that millers don't even know they're a miller, which I think was brought up before.

I'm probably not looking into this far enough, but the fact he decided to announce it fairly quickly into Day 1 made it seem pretty simple to me.

[Battle Mage]

Welcome..and is there any reason you feel BM deserves your vote?

I'm not very well up on strategy, but miller seems like a pretty convenient rolecall for scum. Especially if there's a chance that millers don't even know they're a miller, which I think was brought up before.

I'm probably not looking into this far enough, but the fact he decided to announce it fairly quickly into Day 1 made it seem pretty simple to me.

As opposed to it being totally protown to announce it when a guilty has been declared?

I dont think you have been reading the game totally. Please read my last few posts at least. Im kinda tired of having to explain things over and over again, not to mention newer players reading selectively and believing everything they are told. -.-
Also, use some context plz.

BM

[Peers]

vote: battle mage

reason: if you're a miller, i'm a newbie.

will expound upon that more when at a computer, not a cell phone.

[QuickBen]

Jeez. Three pages already. Out of the joke voting already. Miss a couple hours, miss a lot.

1- Delayed recruiter (in every way i've ever seen or designed them)- A role that recruits nightly, but whose targets do not "turn" until the following night or longer. Its useful for helping a cult slip by cop investigations. In a game this size, its highly unlikely that the cult (arguably the hardest win condition to acheive) was going to be stalled for the first couple nights.

2- @MOD- I know he posted while dead and all, but are you going to modkill anyone if they tell me what I missed reading him blab about?

3- More likely than not, in a game this large, we will have backups and false roles. I wouldn't be shocked if we saw cops of various sanities as well.

4- I'm willing to give BM the benefit of the doubt regarding his miller claim. The more players in a game, the riskier it is to fake claim day one. If anyone else wants to come forward as a miller and counter claim him though, I'm all ears.

5- My first thoughts on seeing the morning scene were more along the lines of having 2 scum groups and a SK. This is based on the hope that we didn't have a vig firing into the crowd. (No one posts on salvation as WellofLostGnomes, do they?)

Thank you, That is all.

[GSGold]

As opposed to it being totally protown to announce it when a guilty has been declared?

Well, you say you called it to prevent cops and doctors from wasting time on you. Or you said it to give any other cops a reason as to why you show up guilty when you're actually scum.

I dont think you have been reading the game totally. Please read my last few posts at least. Im kinda tired of having to explain things over and over again, not to mention newer players reading selectively and believing everything they are told. -.-

I have read the entire thread and your posts and thought about them before posting and making a vote. Thank you, however, for your frustration towards the somewhat high number of new players in this game, it says a lot about your character.

Also, use some context plz.

What do you mean by this? What sort of context are you wanting?

[andersonw]

The thing is I don't think VanDamien's vote was only inspired by someone claiming to be a newbie. Andersonw stated that we should basically "forgive" him if he says something stupid. Thus he was "playing the newbie card". I generally don't like statements like this because they seem pre-emptive; i.e. he can patch a lot of his comments up to being new and force us to consider him unreadable, which is generally unhealthy for the game. The same kind of thing applies to skitzer's comment about Battle Mage.

Sorry if I implied that with my post, I meant it more along the lines of "if I'm acting stupid, tell me that I'm acting stupid". I'll remember to never act like that again.

Reading post subject 31, I've searched mafiascum with a variety of keywords and haven't found a single game with a delayed cult recruiter in it, so I don't really understand how some people are claiming they know exactly what a delayed cult recruiter is. I'm guessing those people are just making assumptions about what they know?

[curiouskarmadog]

Well, I haven't played forum mafia before, so I'm not used to this pace, but this is going to be pretty fun.

I'm going to go ahead and

Vote: Battle Mage

Welcome..and is there any reason you feel BM deserves your vote?

(I guess this post should read)

Easy does it...lol

If there is a possibility that BM is the Miller, why would you want to lynch him? Shouldnt you just leave that up to the vig (I doubt that we have 3 separate scum groups) to deal with him if the vig deems BM scummy?

I guess we are out of the jokey stage..

vote GSGold

, for jump on a beginning bandwagon without really scum hunting... looking forward to your answers.

[Rosso Carne]

alright, issue solved.

stop talking about the cult recruiter. he's dead, and now there is no cult.

the next person who talks about the cult recruiter as if its going to help the town to do so is going to be personally murdered.

[Gorrad]

Howdy everyone. As your pseudo-backup-assistant mod person, I figured I should post here to wish everyone best of luck! (And to have it added to my egosearch).

[skitzer]

BM: Thanks for answering.

The eeny meeny argument was somewhat pointless, as it first came up as a randomish vote.

Rosso Carne: "Personally murdered"? Is that saying you are able to kill people?