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Post Post #50 (ISO) » Tue Apr 22, 2008 10:51 am

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malthusis wrote:
Vote: Malthusis
This to me is an extremely bad play. Why would you come up to vote for no reason when you haven't talked at all?

Major FoS :Macavenger
I was testing a theory that you seemed a bit jumpy in your responses to stuff flying around in the random voting stage.

You just flunked the test. Badly. And get to keep the vote as a result.
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Post Post #51 (ISO) » Tue Apr 22, 2008 11:00 am

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DarlaBlueEyes wrote:well maybe caf has a much smarter partner if someone is watching his back, as I said before I really don't have a very strong FoS on Coheed, but this is still the random voting stage and no one seems to be flagrantly summy thus far.

I would like to know tho, Amor, why you are coming to Caf's defense?
I just thought it was bad logic, so I decided to point it out.

Also, since we seem to be out of the random stage,
unvote
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Post Post #52 (ISO) » Tue Apr 22, 2008 11:31 am

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I can't really explain the fact that nobody's voted for me - it's not like other people's votes are my decision. :?
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Post Post #53 (ISO) » Tue Apr 22, 2008 12:54 pm

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Caf does have a point, It's not like he has some super ability to control who people vote for, he only controls his vote.
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Post Post #54 (ISO) » Tue Apr 22, 2008 1:07 pm

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Im back. Hi, all.
It seems I lost the random stage, but luckily this means zero to nothing in finding scum, so lets get serious, ok?
Thoughts.
Sheperd wrote:BabyShamble, you alone remain silent. Hopefully the conclusion of the weekend will help promote your involvement. Else what shall be done, my random FOS may advance to a vote.
Is this a random comment?
Malthusis wrote:I'm just trying to start some conversation. What's wrong with that?
I've heard this line a million and one times and I still dont know why I dislike it so much.
Shpeherd wrote:Vote: Travis You seem to be too quiet for comfort.
So it wasnt random. You definitely hate lurkers, right?
Macavenger wrote:I was testing a theory that you seemed a bit jumpy in your responses to stuff flying around in the random voting stage.
You just flunked the test. Badly. And get to keep the vote as a result.
I dont like this, seriously.
FoS : Macavenger.

About caf19, whats the problem with him?
Call me Tajo.
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Post Post #55 (ISO) » Tue Apr 22, 2008 1:11 pm

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populartajo wrote:It seems I lost the random stage, but luckily this means zero to nothing in finding scum, so lets get serious, ok?
Actually it doesn't. You can find out quite a bit from the random stage.
populartajo wrote:
Macavenger wrote:I was testing a theory that you seemed a bit jumpy in your responses to stuff flying around in the random voting stage.
You just flunked the test. Badly. And get to keep the vote as a result.
I dont like this, seriously.
FoS : Macavenger.
Why don't you like my scumhunting technique? Explain.
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Post Post #56 (ISO) » Tue Apr 22, 2008 1:13 pm

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Why don't you like my scumhunting technique? Explain.
Because:
a) it can still hunt eager townies.
b) I dont see how you can catch scum with overreaction.
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Post Post #57 (ISO) » Tue Apr 22, 2008 1:21 pm

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populartajo wrote:
Why don't you like my scumhunting technique? Explain.
Because:
a) it can still hunt eager townies.
b) I dont see how you can catch scum with overreaction.
A) Possibly. But it's far more likely to catch scum.
B) Reactions are what this game is all about. Scum are more likely to overreact because they have more to lose by dying than a townie does.

More Malthusis votes would be good. I'm interested to see how he'd react under real pressure.
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Post Post #58 (ISO) » Tue Apr 22, 2008 3:03 pm

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Being that I am also a newbie aside, I really am thinking that Malth's reactions are newbie based, I mean I was just as jumpy and reactionary in my first few game posts.

I am not convinced
yet


I am still really suspicious of Caf/Amor, Coheed seems pretty harmless I think,

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Post Post #59 (ISO) » Tue Apr 22, 2008 5:18 pm

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Welcome back to the game
populartajo
. Look, I did not get on your case for being silent because you had the courtesy to inform us of your absence. Everyone has been bantering back and forth about this, that, and the other. I felt that it was equally important to spark the involvement of the two who had nothing to say. Who, by the way, are still silent. Their lack of speaking does not help us know their allegiances.

Caf
, I understand that you cannot control who votes are cast on you. With Coheed saying:
CoheedCambria09 wrote:Caf does have a point, It's not like he has some super ability to control who people vote for, he only controls his vote.
I am starting to see some mutual effort between the two of you to lean towards each other. He is sticking up for you by that comment. You previously tried to relieve the vote count from him by accusing his voters of teaming up when you said:
caf19 wrote:What's up with this teaming-up of Rosso and Darla?
Unvote; vote: Rosso Carne
obv
.

FOS Caf/Coheed
However, I am still not willing to put my vote on Coheed. He already has 3. But, I am close to changing my vote to you. Meanwhile, I still want to hear from Travis and Babyshamble. Enough silence is enough :!:. We need to stimulate them into speaking too.
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Post Post #60 (ISO) » Wed Apr 23, 2008 12:35 am

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Um shepherd, I wasn't looking out for Caf, It's a completely honest statement that I could make about anyone. The only vote you, or I, or anyone can control is our own vote. I don't see how your already willing to put 4 votes on me.
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Post Post #61 (ISO) » Wed Apr 23, 2008 1:40 am

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Coheed -Is this your first game? I ask sense you have a scorecard and are currently showing 0 wins for 0 plays. As for why Caf might want to put 4 or more votes on you there could be multiple reasons including but not limited to:

A. He's town and looking for a reaction and the best way to get a reaction in this game is to put multiple votes on someone to see what they do. =Most Likely

B. He's scum and wants to start a waggon on you so you can get lynched. =Least likely IMHO since no one is going to be willing to go from random voting to lynching on little information.

S_O_W - Not a lot to say at the moment had some major issues come up in RL so was away from the computer for a day or two I've learned these games kinda run at the speed of slow so don't always check the site everyday.
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Post Post #62 (ISO) » Wed Apr 23, 2008 3:26 am

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babyshamble failed to pick up his prod. He is being replaced by Riceballtail, effective immediately.
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Post Post #63 (ISO) » Wed Apr 23, 2008 3:52 am

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/confirm PM

Already did a thread read (thankfully only 3 pages still for that sense), and I don't have much in suspicion yet.

But to appease:
VOTE: Caf19


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Post Post #64 (ISO) » Wed Apr 23, 2008 4:44 am

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Shepherd_of_Wolves wrote:
Caf
, I understand that you cannot control who votes are cast on you. With Coheed saying:
CoheedCambria09 wrote:Caf does have a point, It's not like he has some super ability to control who people vote for, he only controls his vote.
I am starting to see some mutual effort between the two of you to lean towards each other. He is sticking up for you by that comment. You previously tried to relieve the vote count from him by accusing his voters of teaming up when you said:
caf19 wrote:What's up with this teaming-up of Rosso and Darla?
Unvote; vote: Rosso Carne
obv
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FOS Caf/Coheed
Er, let me get this straight. Firstly you're wary of me because I accused two people of teaming up. Now, you're accusing me of... teaming up. Way to go full circle. Also, if you're really bothered about why nobody voted for me, it makes me wonder why you didn't just vote for me yourself.

I don't have much to say about Coheed really. Putting him at 4 votes wouldn't really be a problem - with 7 to lynch he's not in any danger at 4. I don't really want to put a fourth one on myself (I already vote-hopped once, that's enough for this early stage) but I wouldn't be overly bothered if someone else did.

I agree that Malthusis should be looked into. During the first few pages of the game a "Major FoS" is pretty dramatic - I'd say it is actually more accusatory than a vote, as votes get thrown around for any (or no) reason but a "Major FoS" connotes that you actually want that person lynched, to some extent. I'm not usually a fan of the "testing" tactic Mac employed (they don't seem to yield results very often and I don't think that being cryptic is a good way to act as town) but nevertheless i agree that Malthusis over-reacted.
But to appease: VOTE: Caf19
Lol. Thanks a lot.
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Post Post #65 (ISO) » Wed Apr 23, 2008 5:02 am

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Riceballtail wrote:/confirm PM

Already did a thread read (thankfully only 3 pages still for that sense), and I don't have much in suspicion yet.

But to appease:
VOTE: Caf19


Enjoy your vote!
What the hell is this? You don't have any suspicions but your voting anyway. I hope this a joke vote that I'm not getting.
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Post Post #66 (ISO) » Wed Apr 23, 2008 8:39 am

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caf19 wrote:I can't really explain the fact that nobody's voted for me - it's not like other people's votes are my decision. :?
Riceballtail wrote:But to appease:
VOTE: Caf19
That's what it is. I get my random vote as a replacement!
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Post Post #67 (ISO) » Wed Apr 23, 2008 9:27 am

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Post Post #68 (ISO) » Wed Apr 23, 2008 9:36 am

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I definitely think Malthusius isn't looking good right now, between his "Major FoS" on Macavenger and the use of "I did it to create conversation", which always makes me twitch. It's worth noting that in this case he wasn't even being called out for saying it, just disagreed with. At the very least, he's very defensive.
FoS: Malthusius


Shepherd_of_Wolves is pushing the caf/Coheed connection hard. caf has a point in that he doesn't control who he votes for, but in Shepherd's reply to him he doesn't really respond to that and instead goes off on something completely different. In any case, I don't think scum would openly defend each other so early.
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Post Post #69 (ISO) » Wed Apr 23, 2008 9:42 am

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@Travis, no, I'm in some other games, but none have yet to finish, this is one of my first though.
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Post Post #70 (ISO) » Wed Apr 23, 2008 10:04 am

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okay I am rereading and IMO mathusius looks more newbish than scummy, I am still wanting to know why Amor was so defensive of caf.

I don't see a Coheed/Caf alignment at all, but I am not very good at picking up on that sort of thing.

a *little* suspicious of Greasy for overreacting to Riceball's random vote, I need more time to decide who I want to vote for still.

(btw I
unvoted
several posts back so coheed doesn't have my vote anymore.
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Post Post #71 (ISO) » Wed Apr 23, 2008 10:13 am

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DarlaBlueEyes wrote:a *little* suspicious of Greasy for overreacting to Riceball's random vote, I need more time to decide who I want to vote for still.
This is the 3rd page. Random voting should be over with.
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Post Post #72 (ISO) » Wed Apr 23, 2008 10:22 am

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but when you replace a random vote at first is at least somewhat understandable.

I do agree that random voting should end now, but such dramatic reactions to things catch my attention. Doubtful by your other posts you are scum.

I am still not sold one anyone at this point.

Populartajo, why is it you dont think reactions can be used to find scum? I dont think that they should be the sole reasoning for scum accusations, but I do think they can be helpful.
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Post Post #73 (ISO) » Wed Apr 23, 2008 12:29 pm

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Because:
a) it can still hunt eager townies.
b) I dont see how you can catch scum with overreaction.
I actually agree with avenger on the fact that reactions can help you catch scum. I gave an FoS because I thought that a vote on someone would sound more scummy right now then a FoS.
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Post Post #74 (ISO) » Wed Apr 23, 2008 1:51 pm

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First, I want to clarify for Coheed what you have miss stated. You said:
CoheedCambria09 wrote:Um shepherd, I wasn't looking out for Caf, It's a completely honest statement that I could make about anyone. The only vote you, or I, or anyone can control is our own vote.
I don't see how your already willing to put 4 votes on me.
I never said that I was willing to put 4 votes on you. Rather, I said:
Shepherd_of_Wolves wrote:
FOS Caf/Coheed
However,
I am still
not
willing to put my vote on Coheed.
He already has 3. But, I am close to changing my vote to you. Meanwhile, I still want to hear from Travis and Babyshamble. Enough silence is enough :!:. We need to stimulate them into speaking too.
I am not fully convinced that you are not one or both scum. But, I too realize that the small link I suggested is not compelling evidence either. At this point, it is difficult to see who really is scum. I am not convinced that anyone looks innocent. However, I know that most of us are and only a few are scum.

Caf, I did not vote you for two reasons. First, as I clearly stated:
Shepherd_of_Wolves wrote:But, I am close to changing my vote to you.
Meanwhile, I still want to hear from Travis and Babyshamble. Enough silence is enough :!:. We need to stimulate them into speaking too.
The second reason I did not change my vote is because I have no need to vote hop, when I can state my observations and wait to hear your response and the village response.

Consistant with my interests, I would like to see Travis continue to participate in the conversation. The less people talk, the slower the game moves. We all have to contribute. And I fully anticipate that riceballtail will converse.
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