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Newbie 2110 - Postgame

Post Post #0 (ISO) » Tue Jan 24, 2023 6:17 am

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Newbie 2110


Moderator: Alianna
Setup: NewD3



Playerlist1. Gimli (SE)
Sparletrix

2. Aureal
FroggyMaybe

3. Radical Rat
KingTroll**

4. BlueBloodedToffee* (SE)
iamconfused

5. bewolkt
6. Dionysus*
7. MegAzumarill (SE)
8. furtiveglance (SE)
Ydrasse (SE)

9. skitter30 (SE)

(asterisks indicate prods)


Alive


BlueBloodedToffee,
Vanilla Townie
, survived
Dionysus,
Vanilla Townie
, survived
skitter30,
Vanilla Townie
, survived


Dead


MegAzumarill,
Vanilla Townie
, eliminated Day 1
Gimli,
Mafia Goon
, eliminated Day 2
furtiveglance,
Town Doctor
, killed Night 2
Aureal,
Vanilla Townie
, eliminated Day 3
bewolkt,
Town Tracker
, killed Night 3
Radical Rat,
Mafia Rolecop
, eliminated Day 4


Events






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Post Post #1 (ISO) » Tue Jan 24, 2023 6:31 am

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Rules

(yes, this post is long, but I would rather have everything be clear from the start)

General


1. Please abide by all site rules (most of the important ones are repeated in this post).
2. If you have questions or feel that a situation needs moderator intervention, PM me.
3. Toxic and harmful behaviour will not be tolerated. This includes, but is not limited to:
- flaming, insulting, or directing personal attacks at other players
- use of slurs or derogatory language
- spamming
- excessive AtE
- otherwise being a jerk/making the game unenjoyable for others
4. Play to your win condition.
5. If you wish to replace out, request replacement via PM. Do not discuss replacing out in thread or suggest that another player replace out.
6. Once you request replacement or I notify you that you are being replaced, it is final. You cease to be a player in the game and may no longer post. You may not replace back into your slot.
7. Dead bodies don't talk! Dead players may not post in the game thread or any associated PTs other than the spectator PT.
8. Do not discuss this game outside of the game thread and associated PTs, and do not discuss other ongoing games in this game's threads.
9. Do not quote private communications into the game thread. Paraphrasing is fine. Private communications include:
- your role PM
- communications with the moderator
- posts from PTs
10. Do not engage in the use of trust tells.
11. Do not use provable randomness. Claiming to have rolled a die, for example, is fine; using dice tags is not.
12. Do not use cryptography, invisible text, or text under size 75.
13. If you have the power to edit or delete posts, refrain from using it.
14. My mod colour is
#02B6CE
. Please refrain from using it.
15. In the past, the word "lynch" referred to the town's elimination method. Due to the racially charged history of lynchings in the USA, Mafiascum no longer allows this word to be used. Alternatives include:
- eliminate and its derivatives
- execute
- condemn
- fade
- vote off
- YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET!
- anything else that gets the point across
16. Pretending to break a rule will be treated as if the rule was actually broken.
17. Moderation actions will be determined on a case-by-case basis and may vary based on the individual circumstances. Player alignment, of course, will not be a factor.
18. I reserve the right to alter (some aspects of) the ruleset. If I do so, I will announce it in thread.


Activity


19. At minimum, you must post in the game thread once every 36 hours. If you fail to do so, you will be prodded.
20. You must pick up your prod within 24 hours or be replaced. I am somewhat lenient about prod dodges as long as they are followed up with game-relevant content within a reasonable period of time.
21. If you accumulate 3 prods, you will be replaced.
22. If you are going to be absent for longer than 36 hours, please declare V/LA in thread or by PM. V/LA players will not be prodded.
23. Any player who does not post anything game-relevant for 5 days will be replaced. This rule applies regardless of V/LA status. If you foresee that this will be the case for you, please request replacement.


Deadlines


24. Day 1 has a 10-day deadline. All other days have a 7-day deadline. Nights have a 2-day deadline.
25. Deadline extensions may be granted in special circumstances. Requests for extensions will be considered on a case-by-case basis.
26. The night can end early if all living players, including those without night actions, agree to it.


Voting and Elimination


27. Votes and unvotes must be bolded in the format
VOTE: Player
or in vote/unvote tags (VOTE: Player). Vote/unvote tags are preferred. You can get vote tags by typing (vote)Player(/vote) with square brackets.
28. I will not count votes that are:
- unclear
- improperly formatted
- in spoilers or obviously broken quotes
-
struck through
or purposely obfuscated in any other way
29. An elimination occurs when a majority (>50%) of players agree to eliminate someone. If no majority is reached by the deadline, no elimination will occur.
30. You may vote to no-eliminate (VOTE: No Elimination). If the number of living players is even, only 50% of players must agree to secure a no-elimination.
31. Once the hammer vote is cast, the day’s fate is sealed. Discussion may continue into the twilight, but no further votes or unvotes will be counted.


Private Topics


32. All existing PTs have daytalk.
33. If you would like a notes PT, you may request one. You can state that you have a notes PT, but you may not attempt to use it to prove you are working from a town mindset (real or fabricated).
34. All PTs shared by two or more players will be released unredacted after the game ends. If you have a notes PT, it is up to you what you would like to do with it, and you will have the moderator privileges to do it yourself.
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Post Post #2 (ISO) » Tue Jan 24, 2023 6:32 am

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Setup Information


Newbie Setup
Newbie Setup

NewD3 (as designed by RadiantCowbells):

ABC
Mafia
Mafia Roleblocker
Mafia Rolecop
Mafia Goon
Row 1
Town Cop and Town Doctor
Town Tracker and Town Friendly Neighbor
Town Cop and Vanilla Townie
Row 2
Town Jailkeeper and Town Tracker
Town Jailkeeper and Town Friendly Neighbor
Town Jailkeeper and Vanilla Townie
Row 3
Town Mason and Town Mason
Town Tracker and Town Doctor
Town Mason and Town Mason

Each Newbie Game will be given a setup that incorporates one mafia role from the top of a column, and then two town roles from a row below the selected mafia role. The remaining six roles will be filled in by
one mafia goon
and
five vanilla townies
appropriately, to create a
2-mafia
and
7-town
setup.

All Newbie games use the Natural Action Resolution system for determining Night action effects.
Mafia Roleblocker
action takes precedence over a
Town Jailkeeper
action should that apply.

Mafia are able to communicate in their Private Topic at all times.


Spoiler: Full Setup List
Column A & Row 1:
Mafia Roleblocker, Mafia Goon, Town Cop, Town Doctor, Vanilla Townie x 5
Column A & Row 2:
Mafia Roleblocker, Mafia Goon, Town Jailkeeper, Town Tracker, Vanilla Townie x 5
Column A & Row 3:
Mafia Roleblocker, Mafia Goon, Town Mason x2, Vanilla Townie x 5
Column B & Row 1:
Mafia Rolecop, Mafia Goon, Town Tracker, Town Friendly Neighbor, Vanilla Townie x 5
Column B & Row 2:
Mafia Rolecop, Mafia Goon, Town Jailkeeper, Town Friendly Neighbor, Vanilla Townie x 5
Column B & Row 3:
Mafia Rolecop, Mafia Goon, Town Tracker, Town Doctor, Vanilla Townie x 5
Column C & Row 1:
Mafia Goon x 2, Town Cop, Vanilla Townie x 6
Column C & Row 2:
Mafia Goon x 2, Town Jailkeeper, Vanilla Townie x 6
Column C & Row 3:
Mafia Goon x 2, Town Mason x2, Vanilla Townie x 5

Spoiler: Sample Role PMs
Vanilla TownieWelcome, [Player], to Newbie 2110!

You are a
Vanilla Townie
.

You have no special abilities.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.


Town JailkeeperWelcome, [Player], to Newbie 2110!

You are a
Town Jailkeeper
.

You may target one player per night phase. This player will be protected from kills and be prevented from using their own action, if they have one, during that night phase. You cannot target yourself.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.


Town CopWelcome, [Player], to Newbie 2110!

You are a
Town Cop
.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed if they are
Town
or
Mafia
. If you are roleblocked, you will receive "No Result."

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.


Town MasonWelcome, [Player], to Newbie 2110!

You are a
Town Mason
.

You know that [Player] is Town-aligned. You also share a Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You have no active abilities.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.


Town TrackerWelcome, [Player], to Newbie 2110!

You are a
Town Tracker
.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed what player or players they targeted with their action, if any. If you are roleblocked, you will receive "No Result."

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.


Town DoctorWelcome, [Player], to Newbie 2110!

You are a
Town Doctor
.

You may target one player per night phase. This player will be protected from kills during that night phase. You cannot target yourself.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.


Town Friendly NeighborWelcome, [Player], to Newbie 2110!

You are a
Town Friendly Neighbor
.

You may target one player per night phase. This player will be sent a message informing them that you are Town-aligned.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.


Mafia GoonWelcome, [Player], to Newbie 2110!

You are a
Mafia Goon
.

You and your partner, [Player], share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You also share a factional Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.


Mafia RolecopWelcome, [Player], to Newbie 2110!

You are a
Mafia Rolecop
.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed of their role but not their alignment.
Vanilla Townies
and
Mafia Goons
will both return "Vanilla". If you are roleblocked, you will receive "No Result."

You and your partner, [Player], share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You may commit the kill and perform a rolecop in the same night phase. You also share a factional Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.


Mafia RoleblockerWelcome, [Player], to Newbie 2110!

You are a
Mafia Roleblocker
.

You may target one player per night. This player will be prevented from performing their own action, if any.

You and your partner, [Player], share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You may commit the kill and perform a roleblock in the same night phase. You also share a factional Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.
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Post Post #3 (ISO) » Tue Jan 24, 2023 6:33 am

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Introduction and Tips


Introduction and Tips
Thanks to Irrelephant11 and others for their contributions to these tips.


Here are some helpful links (a lot of them from our helpful wiki):

-> Forum Rules and Guidelines
-> The Glossary
-> Commonly Used Abbreviations
-> The Newbie Guide
-> Articles on How to Play Well (be sure to check the dates these were written/updated, as good advice changes over time)


Key Concepts and Tips


Activity

Try to check in at least once a day.
Besides the activity requirements listed in the moderator's original post, it's just necessary for a fun and healthy game that everyone
plays
. If you post very rarely, or only post a little bit at a time, you may get scumread for lurking. Even if you are not scumread for it, what's the fun in playing a game where multiple people are hardly participating?

Site Meta

Meta is the description of how people on Mafiascum like to play mafia. Things can be different on other online mafia sites, or if you play IRL, so it's good to know what's expected of you on this site. These aren't "rules", per se, but if you don't follow these guidelines it is likely things will go poorly for you on MS. Some examples are...

Random Voting Stage (RVS)

Games on MafiaScum almost always begin with what we call the Random Voting Stage (RVS). At this point in the game, we are in a low information game state (except the mafia, which know everyone’s alignment). As a way to provoke reaction, start a discussion, and try to determine alignment, people will usually vote for non-serious reasons. As the discussion progresses, we will eventually get the game moving and progress out of RVS.

Voting, E-x, and Hammers

E-x is a way to convey how far away a player is away from elimination. For example, you should always announce that you are putting someone at E-1 (1 vote away from an elimination) so that someone doesn’t come along and accidentally vote for that player's elimination. This also prevents Mafia-aligned players from coming along and placing the final vote to eliminate (“hammer”) and claiming ignorance about doing so. You may also see E-2 and E-3 (2 votes away from elimination and 3 votes away from elimination, respectively).

Before you hammer a player, state your intent to hammer (usually done in bold) and ask the player to claim their role. This is done to prevent power roles from being eliminated, and can sometimes get Mafia-aligned players to be caught (via counter claiming). It's best to then allow other players to react and discuss the claim before hammering.

Claiming Your Role

It is almost always best to not claim your role unless you are at E-1 and have been asked to claim as part of an “intent to hammer.” This is because, as a town power role (“PR”), if you out prematurely, you are likely to be night-killed (“NK’d”). As a Vanilla Townie (“VT”), claiming early helps the mafia team narrow down the setup and possible PR candidates. An exception to this would be if a mafia player claimed your role, claiming early to counter the false claim (“CC”) would out the mafia player, and would be a benefit to the town.

Do not fake claim a power role as town!
While it may help you avoid getting eliminated, you might cause a real PR to out themselves by counterclaiming - then the mafia will know who the PR is, and you will probably get eliminated for lying to town. Feel free to fake a claim as scum, though, if you think it would help.

ELo

ELo is the shortened representation of “Eliminate or Lose.” ELo in the Newbie Queue is when there are 3 remaining players, 2 of which are town and 1 is mafia; or when there are 5 remaining players, 3 of which are town and 2 are mafia. It is important in these situations that the town aligned players do not carelessly vote like is done during RVS or early days, as the mafia player(s) can organize and instantly provide the necessary votes to eliminate (“quickhammer”) and win the game.

Conclusion

Mafia is hard!
As town, it can be hard to figure things out, and stressful when people think you're scum.
That's okay!
Just share your thoughts on who you think is scum as they come to you, and don't be afraid to change your mind. As scum, it can be hard to lie convincingly, and stressful when people think you're scum. Don't let that scare you! Try to think of what you would post if you were town, and don't be afraid to "change your mind".

This is a game.
Have fun!
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Post Post #4 (ISO) » Tue Jan 24, 2023 7:11 am

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Role PMs have been sent out. The game will begin when 7/9 players have confirmed or in 48 hours, whichever comes sooner. Please note that confirming means following the instructions at the bottom of the PM, not just reading it.

Currently, 7/9 players have confirmed.
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Post Post #5 (ISO) » Tue Jan 24, 2023 7:44 am

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Update: Due to the scheduled site downtime, I'll be adding 12 hours to the confirmation phase (though I'll still start the game automatically if we get 7/9 confirmations before then).
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Post Post #6 (ISO) » Tue Jan 24, 2023 8:55 am

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As 7/9 players have confirmed, Day 1 will begin momentarily.
To account for the site downtime, the day deadline will be extended by 12 hours.
FroggyMaybe and iamconfused still have until 11:11 PM MST on January 26 to confirm their role PMs.
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Post Post #7 (ISO) » Tue Jan 24, 2023 8:56 am

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1.00
Votecount 1.00


Not Voting (9): Sparletrix, FroggyMaybe, KingTroll, iamconfused, bewolkt, Dionysus, MegAzumarill, Ydrasse, skitter30

With 9 players alive, it takes 5 votes to secure an elimination.

The day deadline is in (expired on 2023-02-04 03:56:40).
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Post Post #8 (ISO) » Tue Jan 24, 2023 9:09 am

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Good morning, everyone!
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Post Post #9 (ISO) » Tue Jan 24, 2023 9:09 am

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Time to hunt some scum.
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Post Post #10 (ISO) » Tue Jan 24, 2023 9:11 am

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Hi everyone!
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Post Post #11 (ISO) » Tue Jan 24, 2023 9:15 am

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In post 9, Dionysus wrote:Time to hunt some scum.
VOTE: Dionysus

You should just let the scum come to you. That's how
real
town plays.
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Post Post #12 (ISO) » Tue Jan 24, 2023 9:21 am

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In post 11, KingTroll wrote:
In post 9, Dionysus wrote:Time to hunt some scum.
VOTE: Dionysus

You should just let the scum come to you. That's how
real
town plays.
Is that why you're voting for me?

VOTE: KingTroll
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Post Post #13 (ISO) » Tue Jan 24, 2023 9:24 am

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egg
Imprefection is the spice of life.
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Post Post #14 (ISO) » Tue Jan 24, 2023 9:27 am

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hello o/
☠︎︎
one flesh, one end.
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Post Post #15 (ISO) » Tue Jan 24, 2023 9:29 am

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In post 12, Dionysus wrote:
In post 11, KingTroll wrote:
In post 9, Dionysus wrote:Time to hunt some scum.
VOTE: Dionysus

You should just let the scum come to you. That's how
real
town plays.
Is that why you're voting for me?

VOTE: KingTroll
Damn it! Schoolyard rubber glue strategies... truly, I am facing a master here.

Egg.
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Post Post #16 (ISO) » Tue Jan 24, 2023 9:44 am

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what’s everyone’s mafia experience?
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Post Post #17 (ISO) » Tue Jan 24, 2023 9:49 am

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Never played before :P
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Post Post #18 (ISO) » Tue Jan 24, 2023 9:49 am

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Heya all!
Nice to meet you
(And play with you again, ydra!)

@mod vla on fridays and saturdays!


VOTE: dionysus
Show
Hiatus once more.

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'Skitter [was] terrifying to play against ngl' ~ scum-bork about town-me

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Post Post #19 (ISO) » Tue Jan 24, 2023 9:50 am

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In post 10, bewolkt wrote:Hi everyone!
VOTE: bewolkt
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Post Post #20 (ISO) » Tue Jan 24, 2023 9:51 am

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In post 16, Ydrasse wrote:what’s everyone’s mafia experience?
I've played a loooooot in the past (mostly epic mafia and other shortform mafia) but this is my second game here.
"Leave it to the god of wine to liven things up around here."
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Death by 1000 Pagetops
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Post Post #21 (ISO) » Tue Jan 24, 2023 9:53 am

Post by Alianna »

In post 18, skitter30 wrote:Heya all!
Nice to meet you
(And play with you again, ydra!)

@mod vla on fridays and saturdays!


VOTE: dionysus
V/LA noted.
I townread Alianna.

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On hiatus from playing mafia.
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Post Post #22 (ISO) » Tue Jan 24, 2023 9:59 am

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In post 20, Dionysus wrote:
In post 16, Ydrasse wrote:what’s everyone’s mafia experience?
I've played a loooooot in the past (mostly epic mafia and other shortform mafia) but this is my second game here.
epicmafia... oh dear.........
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one flesh, one end.
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Goon
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Post Post #23 (ISO) » Tue Jan 24, 2023 10:00 am

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Silly question: what does that mean?
"Leave it to the god of wine to liven things up around here."
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Post Post #24 (ISO) » Tue Jan 24, 2023 10:01 am

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i will never be free of epicmafia
if shackles me
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one flesh, one end.

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