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Post Post #1509 (isolation #0) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 11:34 am

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UNVOTE:
I’ve been loosely following current events, why are there seemingly two camps of possible scum?
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Post Post #1510 (isolation #1) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 11:36 am

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In post 1495, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
In post 1490, DragonEater70 wrote:
In post 1475, ssbm_Kyouko wrote: Gamma can read me I am safe
Unfortunately, in every world where you are town Gamma is scum


Also

I'd like to be able to say that I read your meta thing, but I didn't because I am freaking exhausted (and my philosophy is there's no point in trying to get anything AI out of wallposts when I'm tired), so I'll read it tomorrow at some point.
This isn't a problem, Gamma can be held to BoP if she votes me and I flip town - I don't think this is necessarily the case though, but I see how it may seem that way because of your purple TR.
What makes you think I’m going to be able to read you correctly?
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Post Post #1511 (isolation #2) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 11:37 am

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In post 1475, ssbm_Kyouko wrote: Gamma can read me I am safe
Genuinely, what was our last game together where we were both town and I read you correctly?
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Post Post #1514 (isolation #3) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 11:43 am

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I’m not directly saying you’re wrong because my memory might be failing me but the most notable read on you for me was my misread in Radio Buzz. But you seem to be applying your read rate on me as a vice versa, that’s at least how it feels to me.
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Post Post #1515 (isolation #4) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 11:50 am

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Your initial approach is not a great look though. Don’t care for the shade in your last post. I said genuinely because of my aforementioned lack of solid recollection on my past reads on you.
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Post Post #1516 (isolation #5) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 11:59 am

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In post 645, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 644, Hu Tao wrote: How come
I feel some push on the gamestate from them both .

My town read on Pavowski was mainly on tone.

And HPE wagon main wagon got turned into a Lap wagon, and I was able to feel that was a wagon scum wanted instead.

So I think HPE has scum equity because of that, especially considering Abnegation flipped town.
This feels pretty rare my dude. You saw me make the mistake of thinking this about HPE in BTXVII.
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Post Post #1518 (isolation #6) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 12:05 pm

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In post 728, HighPrincessErinys wrote:
In post 724, cw357 wrote: also to get one thing completely clear again cuz HPE doesn't seem to read post history:
THE REASON I STOPPED TROLLING IS BECAUSE THE MODS THREATENED TO SITE-BAN ME; I LOVE TROLLING BUT I LOVE NOT BEING BANNED MORE
this one is aware and it makes me dislike you more because you still want to make references to candy vans and slurs but aren't allowed to lol. going to try and work on a breakdown of 691 if this one has the time and motivation
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Post Post #1520 (isolation #7) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 12:12 pm

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In post 731, cw357 wrote:
In post 728, HighPrincessErinys wrote:
In post 724, cw357 wrote: also to get one thing completely clear again cuz HPE doesn't seem to read post history:
THE REASON I STOPPED TROLLING IS BECAUSE THE MODS THREATENED TO SITE-BAN ME; I LOVE TROLLING BUT I LOVE NOT BEING BANNED MORE
this one is aware and it makes me dislike you more because you still want to make references to candy vans and slurs but aren't allowed to lol. going to try and work on a breakdown of 691 if this one has the time and motivation
I'm not breaking down my own posts. That's your job! :)
Weirdly defensive given HPE already said it would do that
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Post Post #1521 (isolation #8) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 12:17 pm

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In post 732, DragonEater70 wrote:
In post 726, HighPrincessErinys wrote:
In post 723, DragonEater70 wrote: Fun fact:

When Flavor said I should vig cw, I wanted to respond with "I agree, you should vig cw tonight while I stay home like a good townie", but I didn't because I thought that moght make people think I'm actually the vig

Anyhow, VOTE: Flavor

He's not a N1 vig.
ok now this is an interesting twist
Is it? This is a Simple game. N1 modifier doesn't exiat in Simples.
That is weird given odd/even night and novice are simple but I also get why night-specific isn’t fully allowed since that means things like prime-number-night are legal
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Post Post #1523 (isolation #9) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 12:21 pm

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In post 742, cw357 wrote:
In post 741, Flavor Leaf wrote: Night 1’s not my modifier, just wanted to WIFOM scum to have them wonder if I have another shot or not.

You looking scared, DragonEater.

I was 100% making it look like it was you. You been trying to pocket me all game.
scum's turning on each other
it's fun to watch
Cringe post
I misinterpreted DE’s reply as CCing vig but vig is never a scum role outside of potentially complex normals and themes (this being neither) so as long as no one counterclaims, FL is confirmed town
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Post Post #1524 (isolation #10) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 12:25 pm

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In post 750, DragonEater70 wrote: Yeah Idk why

The vote was very half hearted tbh
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The vote was horrible but I don’t see the direct benefit if you’re scum
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Post Post #1525 (isolation #11) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 12:26 pm

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In post 760, cw357 wrote: All three of the other people in this thread are scum. They are all making a coordinated campaign against me. If for some reason I am elimed please refer to this page to see what happened.
This is a really easy narrative to cook up as scum
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Post Post #1527 (isolation #12) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 12:35 pm

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In post 796, cw357 wrote:
In post 794, DragonEater70 wrote: They claimed vig when a vig is confirmed and nobody CC'd them
there are inactive players
why is vig confirmed?
setup is closed.
In post 797, cw357 wrote: vig is not confirmed
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Post Post #1528 (isolation #13) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 12:37 pm

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In post 802, Flavor Leaf wrote: I need to look into seeing if I think CW/HPE is possible.
Highkey doubt it
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Post Post #1530 (isolation #14) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 12:39 pm

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In post 805, HighPrincessErinys wrote:
In post 802, Flavor Leaf wrote: I need to look into seeing if I think CW/HPE is possible.
this one would NOT fucking play with cw as its scumpartner lmao
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Post Post #1532 (isolation #15) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 12:44 pm

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In post 816, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 813, cw357 wrote:
In post 811, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 763, cw357 wrote: Flavor/HPE/DE have no opinions, all they care about is getting rid of town as non-suspiciously as possible and coordinating their votes to do so
Do you really think all 3 scum would be pushing you? Also thought you had joyboy scum?
yes, no
at first i scumread him and i still find him sus but idk i scumread him less if that makes sense?

ur sus
SCUM PARTNERS TURNING ON EACH OTHER
Yeah cw’s reads make no sense so I can only conclude they’re entirely fabricated
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Post Post #1535 (isolation #16) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 12:46 pm

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In post 823, DragonEater70 wrote:
In post 808, cw357 wrote: holy shit could flavor actually be conftown

this will crumble all my reads
I don't believe it yet though
lol cw is town
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Post Post #1538 (isolation #17) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 12:48 pm

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In post 830, DragonEater70 wrote: Flavor, cw feels like KeyLaga from this game you repped out of: viewtopic.php?t=91890

(KL was town)
not even close

Okay maybe not that much but KL felt consistent, cw does not
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Post Post #1539 (isolation #18) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 12:49 pm

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In post 837, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 830, DragonEater70 wrote: Flavor, cw feels like KeyLaga from this game you repped out of: viewtopic.php?t=91890

(KL was town)
Nah, i don’t see that at all.

Immediately after ISO’ing, I saw tons of questions being asked and at least some coherent thoughts.

CW is blind scratching, dirt walling

They remind me more of Gob.
This isn’t really apt either imo
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Post Post #1542 (isolation #19) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 12:53 pm

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In post 840, Hu Tao wrote: Only reads I'm comfortable with right now is Flavor and dragon Town. Joyboy is sus but I'm not 100% on him being scum
This is pretty reasonable post which probably makes Hu Tao scum
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Post Post #1547 (isolation #20) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 12:55 pm

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In post 846, Flavor Leaf wrote: There was a time when HPE had 3 votes on them, Dragon, Myself, and Hu Tao.

Then Lap joined on, and Dragon immediately moved over to Abnegation.

Dragon and HPE have some ties there.

I also think Pavowski and Kyouko have some ties together. They both actually look pretty rough with the flips we have in hindsight rereading Day 1.

HPE
Pavowski
Kyouko
DragonEater

Is a pool

Idk what it’s a pool of yet, but it’s a pool.
This is starting to answer my question I had coming in
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Post Post #1549 (isolation #21) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 12:56 pm

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In post 1545, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 1539, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 837, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 830, DragonEater70 wrote: Flavor, cw feels like KeyLaga from this game you repped out of: viewtopic.php?t=91890

(KL was town)
Nah, i don’t see that at all.

Immediately after ISO’ing, I saw tons of questions being asked and at least some coherent thoughts.

CW is blind scratching, dirt walling

They remind me more of Gob.
This isn’t really apt either imo
Gob was just the closest relative thing that was more than what i saw from KeyLaga, since we hit Gob.

It was also a shade at Gob
hrm
I was shading/mocking gob for a little bit but when he opened up to me I quickly felt bad about it and stopped
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Post Post #1554 (isolation #22) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 12:59 pm

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In post 854, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 852, DragonEater70 wrote: Hmm

Why's Kyou scum?
The lap push feels off on a reread. I just reread most of the game, and Lap was doing a good amount of work. And i was town reading it.

I don’t think i realized how much people were discrediting them.
I don’t like how kyouko got started there. The thing about catchphrases catching scum feeling like mega-bogus post-flip
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Post Post #1555 (isolation #23) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 1:01 pm

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In post 859, HighPrincessErinys wrote: done hanging with friend and going to call it for the night soon but could someone give me a name or two to go ISO and look at later? because this one has been doing the thing where it focuses on like one or two people at a time and what everyone else is saying kinda becomes white noise again
In post 860, DragonEater70 wrote: Pav and Hu Tao
In post 861, Purplemango wrote: Why pav is scum?
@purple
did you think DE was calling pav scum, if so why?
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Post Post #1561 (isolation #24) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 1:04 pm

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Have you seen scum parrot your catchphrase before?
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Post Post #1565 (isolation #25) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 1:09 pm

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In post 887, cw357 wrote: im still pissed that I was (presumably?) wrong about flavor
UNVOTE:
Why am I not feeling it from you then
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Post Post #1569 (isolation #26) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 1:11 pm

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In post 1563, Flavor Leaf wrote: My current solve is Kyouko, CW, and one of Hu Tao/Dragon.

Geraint could slide in there if they’re scum in place of one of them, but I’m pretty happy with the other slots.

Most of Kyouko’s posts today were a lot of IioA, and there were conclusions made directed towards HPE.

I just think HPE fits the bill of impressionable town (not in a bad way) and takes the time to consider the cases that get presented.

Feels like they’ve just been on too many of the wagons outwardly, and i don’t think scum do it like that that often.
This solve seems okay from what I’ve seen. My only divergence is I think Dragon is more likely town
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Post Post #1573 (isolation #27) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 1:12 pm

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Kyouko’s posting on page 36 is pretty bad
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Post Post #1586 (isolation #28) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 1:16 pm

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In post 908, Flavor Leaf wrote: Feels like Kyouko already knew that was there and is acting like they didn’t
:up:
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Post Post #1591 (isolation #29) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 1:19 pm

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In post 912, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 910, cw357 wrote:
In post 908, Flavor Leaf wrote: Feels like Kyouko already knew that was there and is acting like they didn’t
explain?
In post 909, Hu Tao wrote: Can someone voting dragon explain that? I don't see it
pushed laplacian while maintaining distance yesterday in a very un-towny way
pocket attempts
a lot of interactions stuff, if a dragon wagon actually becomes a big thing I could ISO

Basically i think Kyouko already knew that FBI soft was there, and is acting like they just found it to help push a narrative. It’s sussy baka if they knew about it in Day 1.
There’s one player at this table I want to see weigh in on this more than most
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Post Post #1592 (isolation #30) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 1:21 pm

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VOTE: cw357
Until I’m caught up, this vote will remain here.
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Post Post #1596 (isolation #31) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 1:28 pm

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In post 933, Flavor Leaf wrote: Pavowski, CW, HPE team is possible
HPE is town if CW is scum even outside of the logic I expect HPE to present or have presented
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Post Post #1600 (isolation #32) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 1:38 pm

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In post 940, Pavowski wrote:
In post 939, geraintm wrote: I've got nothing tonadd today from last night BTW
C'mon man. There are almost 40 pages of game. To quote Vincent Vega, right before he shot some dude in the face, you gotta have an opinion
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Post Post #1603 (isolation #33) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 1:43 pm

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In post 1599, Purplemango wrote:
In post 1555, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 859, HighPrincessErinys wrote: done hanging with friend and going to call it for the night soon but could someone give me a name or two to go ISO and look at later? because this one has been doing the thing where it focuses on like one or two people at a time and what everyone else is saying kinda becomes white noise again
In post 860, DragonEater70 wrote: Pav and Hu Tao
In post 861, Purplemango wrote: Why pav is scum?
@purple
did you think DE was calling pav scum, if so why?
Yea, kinda?
he voted for him And was talking about him as scum
Don't think it's still the case tho
okay. Thought you were being a bit defensive of pav but that makes sense
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Post Post #1604 (isolation #34) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 1:50 pm

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In post 960, DragonEater70 wrote: Alright I skimmed like 2-3 of Kyouko's town games and also 2-3 scum games of hers, and my conclusion is that Kyouko doesn't know how to powerwolf / fake-tunnel as scum. OTOH, there's at least one instance in her town games of being overly-insistent on a wrong scumread.

So I feel content with my read of her as town for now - at least until she does something which makes me question that read.
I feel like she’s so meta-minded that she wouldn’t let that last forever
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Post Post #1605 (isolation #35) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 1:53 pm

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In post 989, Flavor Leaf wrote: Pavowski/cw and Hu Tao/DragonEater are an obv split.

If we fade in Hu Tao/DE, I’m vigging Pavowski if they flip town, and vice versa.
I don’t get how you landed on this split
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Post Post #1606 (isolation #36) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 1:54 pm

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In post 992, Flavor Leaf wrote: It’s possible it’s one of each, like a Pavowski/Hu Tao, but that’s hard to deal with anyways. But that also makes a lot of sense.
Why are you so averse to calling cw scum?
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Post Post #1607 (isolation #37) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 1:54 pm

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Well, not are, were
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Post Post #1612 (isolation #38) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 1:58 pm

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In post 993, Pavowski wrote:
In post 989, Flavor Leaf wrote: Pavowski/cw and Hu Tao/DragonEater are an obv split.

If we fade in Hu Tao/DE, I’m vigging Pavowski if they flip town, and vice versa.
That'll be fun, I dunno if I've ever gotten shot

Don't think you'd have to, though
I can’t remember a game I was misvigged in, but I’ve played a lot of games. Maybe I’ll make a table like what kyouko posted earlier.
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Post Post #1613 (isolation #39) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 2:00 pm

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In post 1000, Pavowski wrote: Rather you shoot Dragon if you flip me/CW today but you do you boo

Maybe somebody can change my mind over the coming days, tho

I'm re-voting Dragon tomorrow
I don’t think DE is ever a good vig target
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Post Post #1617 (isolation #40) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 2:01 pm

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In post 1003, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 1000, Pavowski wrote: Rather you shoot Dragon if you flip me/CW today but you do you boo

Maybe somebody can change my mind over the coming days, tho

I'm re-voting Dragon tomorrow
I can't. They softed some sort of BP esque role, and i dont wanna mess with the WIFOM of that. I'd rather shoot for a for sure kill. I can see a world where they faked it, but yeah, I'm not going to be vigging DE.
yeah you picked up the same thing I did
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Post Post #1618 (isolation #41) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 2:03 pm

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In post 1006, Flavor Leaf wrote: idk, that Lap wagon was really bad, and I knew it too. If I wasn't vig, i wouldnt have faded there, even with the vanilla claim.
You should really dial down the willingness to vote your townreads D1 imo
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Post Post #1619 (isolation #42) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 2:04 pm

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In post 1009, Flavor Leaf wrote: i also am contemplating being okay leaving CW alive as a future lesson of why that was the correct Day 1 misfade if they misvote as town for the loss or if they are scum, it was also the correct fade there.
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Post Post #1632 (isolation #43) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 2:15 pm

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In post 1022, Flavor Leaf wrote: Me knowing that Hu Tao could easily be trying to get me to town read them and avoid being vigged is one of the things keeping me from fully scum reading Pavowski, though. I also think it's possible it's a ScumPav, TownKyouko.
Really wish you weren’t vig since seeing Hu Tao trying to read you would probably be enlightening on her alignment.
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Post Post #1634 (isolation #44) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 2:16 pm

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Ftr I would very likely be townreading you here if you weren’t vig. There’s a certain dynamicism to your reads that I think town!you does more.
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Post Post #1641 (isolation #45) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 2:26 pm

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In post 1638, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 1632, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1022, Flavor Leaf wrote: Me knowing that Hu Tao could easily be trying to get me to town read them and avoid being vigged is one of the things keeping me from fully scum reading Pavowski, though. I also think it's possible it's a ScumPav, TownKyouko.
Really wish you weren’t vig since seeing Hu Tao trying to read you would probably be enlightening on her alignment.
Um? Might want to read day 1 then. :lol:
Not in the cards rn. I’m reading D2 today, might read D1 over night phase or during D3
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Post Post #1642 (isolation #46) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 2:26 pm

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In post 1636, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 1634, Gamma Emerald wrote: Ftr I would very likely be townreading you here if you weren’t vig. There’s a certain dynamicism to your reads that I think town!you does more.
it's the anybody can get it dynamic, i feel.

it just clearly doesnt come from an informed player.
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Post Post #1646 (isolation #47) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 2:30 pm

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In post 1030, cw357 wrote:
In post 1010, Flavor Leaf wrote: Pavowski, Kyouko, HPE, Hu Tao are my candidates that I'm okay with if we're not going CW.

UNVOTE: CW
I've made a case on HPE Kyouku and Hu Tao in the past,
tbh if ur going to soft pr you should hard claim so I don't like dragon's situation
, but I haven't read in any detail past posts, so disregard for all intents and purposes.

Pavowski for me has flown under the radar and I don't support a pavowski elim (he's been literally in my towncore) but if that's who everyone else wants to wagon onto its not like I have the ability nor the desire to prevent it
This is a scum mindset
Letting VTs soft PR allows for scum to have to parse softs for their validity, this feels like a scum that doesn’t enjoy having to do that
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Post Post #1647 (isolation #48) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 2:30 pm

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In post 1643, HighPrincessErinys wrote:
In post 1640, Flavor Leaf wrote: i get feelings of save kyouko energy.
It feels more to me like Gamma is going to get Kyouko killed atm
???
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Post Post #1649 (isolation #49) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 2:32 pm

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In post 1033, cw357 wrote:
In post 983, Hu Tao wrote: How terrible would a mass claim be right now. Because as of right now, I feel like if we don't get scum today or by vig shot, we lose effectively.
lmfao are u just pr hunting now?
VOTE: Hu Tao (although I think I already did iirc)
This is sooooo bad after what I just pointed out
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Post Post #1650 (isolation #50) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 2:33 pm

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In post 1648, HighPrincessErinys wrote:
In post 1647, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1643, HighPrincessErinys wrote:
In post 1640, Flavor Leaf wrote: i get feelings of save kyouko energy.
It feels more to me like Gamma is going to get Kyouko killed atm
???
It just seems like you're slowly leaning more and more towards voting Kyouko
I would be willing to vote kyouko once I’m caught up but most of my reading has led me to finding cw suspicious.
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Post Post #1651 (isolation #51) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 2:34 pm

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In post 1035, Flavor Leaf wrote: im not opposed to mass claim, but i think it's probs better tomorrow.
This feels highly uncharacteristic of you
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Post Post #1653 (isolation #52) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 2:40 pm

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In post 1083, DragonEater70 wrote: I'm not really defending cw, I just just want to kill Pav today. Do you disagree with the several posts I've made pointing out why he's scum?
hmmm
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Post Post #1655 (isolation #53) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 2:49 pm

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In post 1118, DragonEater70 wrote:
In post 1113, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 1094, Flavor Leaf wrote: Hu Tao, can you talk about the PV/CW - Hu Tao/DragonEater dynamics to me? What are your thoughts on the 4 of you, not necessarily your read, but your thoughts on the 2 v 2 as a general thing.
I think that cw is probably town but will vote wrong tomorrow so he needs to go. Still a small chance he flips scum so better now then later. Pav seems to be the one who does soft defenses of cw so I think he could be the scum that wants cw alive for tomorrow.

In terms of Dragon and me. Could dragon ve pocketing me? Idk, I don't think so. Last time I played with dragon scum he was obvious and I called it day 1. I don't see that here. I think it's weird cw tries to push that me and dragon are a pair and his read seems very surface level which is why I think there is a chance cw flips scum.
I'm gonna locktown Hu Tao

So that makes 4 I'm never voting - Purple, Flavor, Hu Tao and myself.
:igmeou:
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Post Post #1656 (isolation #54) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 2:51 pm

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In post 1121, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
In post 1053, Flavor Leaf wrote: I’m probably leaning Pavowski, CW, or Kyouko today.
I don't think cw is scum here
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This substantially raises cw+kyouko partner equity
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Post Post #1658 (isolation #55) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 2:52 pm

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In post 1134, Hu Tao wrote: Since we have a cop and vig. I'm guessing scum have 2 strong pr as well. So it's possible there is a scum that is being bussed by their teammates.
1 strong or 2 weak is more likely
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Post Post #1659 (isolation #56) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 2:53 pm

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In post 1657, Flavor Leaf wrote: alright alright, gamma starting to get where im at now
I wasn’t before?
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Post Post #1660 (isolation #57) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 2:54 pm

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also I think in the case cw+kyouko are scum it makes more sense yo vote cw first because that feels like kyouko falling on the sword to preserve cw
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Post Post #1662 (isolation #58) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 2:56 pm

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In post 1139, ssbm_Kyouko wrote: I would agree though that if the strongest PR that has interaction with the town power comes under pressure, a goon will likely be sacrificed to save the scum PR
:up:
kyouko openly posting the scum agenda in the main thread
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Post Post #1665 (isolation #59) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 3:06 pm

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In post 1159, Hu Tao wrote: I've played 1 game with Thom before. I fooled them when I was scum. So I'd keep them alive again if I was scum tbh.
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Post Post #1666 (isolation #60) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 3:07 pm

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In post 1664, Flavor Leaf wrote: i also feel like Kyouko can manipulate the game back to their liking moreso than CW can, so if scum are gonna fall, honestly, CW is the one that in theory should go down bar a lurker geraint.
Again: if CW is scum PR and kyouko is a goon that potentially trumps any recovery ideas.
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Post Post #1669 (isolation #61) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 3:13 pm

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In post 1161, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 1140, Pavowski wrote: Ok Dragon, what would scum!Purple be doing here?

Self vote is disgusting, hard to read that as towny right here

Is CW even close to getting yeeted right now? Lot of people talking about voting there but how many are actually there? Such a weird thing to do

If scum you're throwing, boo, hiss
If town you should make it as hard for scum as possible, there's like no chance you get limmed by town alone
Eh. I've self voted as town before. It's not the worst thing
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Post Post #1670 (isolation #62) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 3:14 pm

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In post 1667, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 1666, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1664, Flavor Leaf wrote: i also feel like Kyouko can manipulate the game back to their liking moreso than CW can, so if scum are gonna fall, honestly, CW is the one that in theory should go down bar a lurker geraint.
Again: if CW is scum PR and kyouko is a goon that potentially trumps any recovery ideas.
why would CW scum PR self vote themselves and put them into danger zone?

Idk, I see Kyouko is more likely scum PR.
AtE? I think most players give defeatism way too much towncred.
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Post Post #1674 (isolation #63) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 3:20 pm

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In post 1186, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
In post 1184, DragonEater70 wrote:
In post 1179, ssbm_Kyouko wrote: (cw?, geraintm, joyboy?, flavor, myself, maybe DragonEater?) - players who reasonably could have found Thomith's cop crumb
Def not me, I once missed a crumb from my own slot
I say maybe DE because I don't have a guess one way or the other - cw seems experienced offsite, not sure if he's experienced in forum mafia where crumbs are a thing, and joyboy seems to be an alt so he could conceivably be able to find crumbs. Flavor, geraintm, and I have been around long enough we should all be reasonably capable of finding crumbs unless proven/suspected otherwise.

Also I'm pretty sure I've seen that exact same kind of crumb ('FBI' in capitals) used for a Cop before, so knowing I was looking specifically for Cop crumbs in Thomith's ISO, it was easy to find, especially since it was the first few posts.
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Post Post #1675 (isolation #64) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 3:24 pm

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In post 1202, cw357 wrote: this is my swan song
scum is probably dragon+hu tao+hpe
I called it
tbh I don't even care anymore
Yeah I think I am exactly where FL’s solve was earlier: cw + kyouko + HT or DE
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Post Post #1679 (isolation #65) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 5:44 pm

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In post 1245, cw357 wrote: just do it I hate playing against powerwolfs
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Post Post #1680 (isolation #66) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 5:45 pm

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In post 1676, cw357 wrote:
In post 1646, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1030, cw357 wrote:
In post 1010, Flavor Leaf wrote: Pavowski, Kyouko, HPE, Hu Tao are my candidates that I'm okay with if we're not going CW.

UNVOTE: CW
I've made a case on HPE Kyouku and Hu Tao in the past,
tbh if ur going to soft pr you should hard claim so I don't like dragon's situation
, but I haven't read in any detail past posts, so disregard for all intents and purposes.

Pavowski for me has flown under the radar and I don't support a pavowski elim (he's been literally in my towncore) but if that's who everyone else wants to wagon onto its not like I have the ability nor the desire to prevent it
This is a scum mindset
Letting VTs soft PR allows for scum to have to parse softs for their validity, this feels like a scum that doesn’t enjoy having to do that
MY GOOD SIR I RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE (!)
FOR YOU SEE IT GIVES SCUM PLAUSIBLE ABILITY TO SOFT (!!?!?!?!!!)
if the status quo in this game was "soft and people tr you for it" then scum would soft and it'd keep them alive until d3/4 and then there MIGHT (also might not) be a cc, in which case tiebreaking vote is prob only 50/50.

So no, vague softing is not good for town.
mmmm no
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Post Post #1681 (isolation #67) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 5:46 pm

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In post 1254, DragonEater70 wrote: Because if you answer yes you are simply hard throwing and it's not even funny
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Post Post #1682 (isolation #68) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 5:47 pm

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In post 1269, Pavowski wrote: Flavor: convinces me not to vote Dragon

Also Flavor: willing to vote Dragon

I am feeling extra stupid right now.
I feel you on this.
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Post Post #1683 (isolation #69) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 5:48 pm

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In post 1271, Flavor Leaf wrote: End game is tomorrow if we misfade today.
huh??? I am guessing you mean ELo because this is fucking moronic if taken at face value?
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Post Post #1684 (isolation #70) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 5:52 pm

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In post 1283, DragonEater70 wrote:
In post 1281, Flavor Leaf wrote: I can make a town case on every player in the game, more interested in scum cases.
I agree but

Where's the scumcase for Kyouko


What do you think about Kyouko's scumcase for Pav

What do you think about the (forgotten and perhaps unjustifiably so) scum case for HPE

And I also disagree that there's a GOOD town case for Joyboy.
I feel like cases were already made at this point so this is super disingenuous
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Post Post #1685 (isolation #71) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 5:53 pm

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In post 1287, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 1283, DragonEater70 wrote:
In post 1281, Flavor Leaf wrote: I can make a town case on every player in the game, more interested in scum cases.
I agree but

Where's the scumcase for Kyouko

What do you think about Kyouko's scumcase for Pav

What do you think about the (forgotten and perhaps unjustifiably so) scum case for HPE

And I also disagree that there's a GOOD town case for Joyboy.
Kyouko's scumcase for Pav looks fabricated and like potential saving of CW. They also tunneled Lap poorly, when I thought Lap was incredibly townie. If I wasn't a vig ready to shoot,
i wouldnt have quickhammered there even with Vanilla
. Don't really regret it, though.

I do believe that tunnel to be scum indicative from where we are now, especially considering Kyouko hasnt voted this day phase, it looks like they're feeling the water.


There's not a great town case for joyboy, there's not a great scum case for em either. Sucks. They could be scum. They're a bad fade today, though, for the chance the flip town.
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Post Post #1686 (isolation #72) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 5:55 pm

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In post 1290, DragonEater70 wrote: Fuck this I'm just going to sheep Flavor

Clearly he's not going to work with me and he's conftown so whatever

I'll graciously accept getting vigged tonight if Flavor is wrong

VOTE: cw

Pedit: okay that makes me feel slightly better about this vote
I don’t understand how you went from baiting the shot to calling FL throwing for possibly vigging you to this
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Post Post #1687 (isolation #73) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 5:57 pm

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That was also where I started taking a legitimate interest in the game btw
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Post Post #1688 (isolation #74) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 5:59 pm

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In post 1307, DragonEater70 wrote: That's actually a good point

The thought process on Lap is kinda non-existent

Same with the thought process on me

I guess if Pav is town that makes Kyouko obvscum

I still can't get over my Pav scumread though

Gonna ISO dive and maybe meta dive him if I feel like it

Pedit: Flavor can you stop being like that

You are looking under the carpet for reasons to discredit me
This feels like town :/
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Post Post #1689 (isolation #75) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 6:01 pm

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If kyouko flips scum today, pls don’t vig DE tonight.
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Post Post #1690 (isolation #76) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 6:06 pm

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In post 1330, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
In post 1268, Flavor Leaf wrote: Kyouko always like this as town isn’t doing it for me as a defense.

Need some non meta reasons
this is dumb
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Post Post #1691 (isolation #77) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 6:08 pm

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In post 1336, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
In post 1334, Flavor Leaf wrote: i also think 1201 is flawed in general, because I think Lapalacian had strong posts, especially looking back. I was town reading Lap then too, so I just really didn't agree with that post.
I think Laplacian was too focused on defending himself and not on finding scum, and he had only one post that caused me any hesitation, I believe I pointed it out already, grabbing it.
but like, that’s not a scumtell, I think you should absolutely know that
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Post Post #1692 (isolation #78) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 6:12 pm

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In post 1362, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 1360, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 283, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 254, ssbm_Kyouko wrote: It'd be weirdly straightforward but it feels like it could just be {Laplacian, DE, ???}

Dragon feels like he wants anything
but
for the focus to be on Laplacian and Laplacian feels like he knows he's toast and is trying to Distance from DE before he goes down
This is wild because I feel like we see things completely different right now. I don't think dragon is that scummy ATM.
In post 290, Hu Tao wrote: Okay I need someone who scumreads lap to explain the lap scumread. Preferably Kyouko. I feel like I usually see eye to eye with her but this game, I'm not. I haven't seen her as scum yet so I'm a bit worried about that tbh.

this is actually very telling if you are town, Hu Tao.
Yeah. I'm not against the kyo vote since I did say she seemed different day 1
What are your past games with kyouko?
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Post Post #1693 (isolation #79) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 6:14 pm

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In post 1383, HighPrincessErinys wrote:
In post 1382, Pavowski wrote:
In post 1381, HighPrincessErinys wrote:
In post 1377, Pavowski wrote: Let's not rush it through though, I actually do want the lurkers to respond

A quickhammer would be something tho
We could just vig whoever lolhammers if Kyouko flips green.
That was kinda my point
Pretty poorly communicated point then.
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Post Post #1694 (isolation #80) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 6:15 pm

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In post 1392, Flavor Leaf wrote: I'm not interested in a meta defense personally, id like other defenses other than meta.

Kyouko has meta with players within this game, and that automatically requires a different meta.

Meta is a supplementary reasons.

That being said, I'm willing to hear it out. Pavowski is also +town for me right now since it's consistent with the removing vote idea on Lap the day prior + the reapplying vote.
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Post Post #1695 (isolation #81) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 6:25 pm

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In post 1414, Flavor Leaf wrote: yeah, im set on Kyouko. if CW is a partner, they're about to cause distraction. CW should be left to make judgement to the vig.

CW, if town, and there is scum in Hu Tao/Dragon, is probably okay to have alive in that scenario, so ill think about some things tonight.

I want this option.

If Kyouko is scum, DragonEater and Pavowski become confirmed town.
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Post Post #1698 (isolation #82) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 6:28 pm

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In post 1421, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 1419, Pavowski wrote: High thought before I leave you: with the League of Lurkers in effect, securing a lim at all today could be difficult, let alone one that has no scum on-wagon

I dunno if that changes things for our present situation but it just struck me

*Falls into a black hole*
Imo, Geraint only doesn't join if they are specifically scum with Kyouko. So they bus or die. But that would encourage more lurking, which would talke longer to get it.

Purpleheart also would vote here if they had to, I feel.
Purple Heart is not Purplemango
Purple Heart is a hydra so it would not even be allowed in a normal game KEKW
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Post Post #1700 (isolation #83) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 6:33 pm

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In post 1696, cw357 wrote:
In post 1681, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1254, DragonEater70 wrote: Because if you answer yes you are simply hard throwing and it's not even funny
fucking ick
you give me the ick
I do not care what you think of me
I’m not squarely in the “I’m not here to make friends” camp but I do realize that trying to be pals with everyone is impossible. Also your behavior in this game has solidly put me off from caring about getting along with you.
In post 1697, cw357 wrote: 99% of stuff in mafia is NAI, can you stop bombarding us with posts
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Post Post #1701 (isolation #84) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 6:35 pm

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In post 1699, cw357 wrote: why are you sheeping flavor so much?
also a fellow texan, am in hs in dallas
You do not seem to know what sheeping actually is, because I think I’ve shown that my thought process is wholly independent.
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Post Post #1704 (isolation #85) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 6:37 pm

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In post 1426, Flavor Leaf wrote: CW, Pav, and Kyouko have all had a 'flip me if you have to' (to varying degrees of niceties), DragonEater kind of had it with their claim and self confirmation (this is a big piece of annoying WIFOM, wish they didnt claim that), and Hu Tao is woe is me'ing future them and actively trying not to get vigged (comes across as mostly townie with some scum possibility, which annoyingly would be the point of it)

so some of yall townies AtE'ing and some of yall fake and scum.

HPE would be the 6th player, and while they havent had the same type of woe is me, they can't handle an inkling of suspicion towards them, which is also annoying, but ive seen play like that before from town. They dont seem to have my vig on their mind very much, though, and other than lurker squad, i cant say the same about the other 5.
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Post Post #1708 (isolation #86) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 6:39 pm

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In post 1438, cw357 wrote: please vig dragon or hu tao (preferably dragon)
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Post Post #1709 (isolation #87) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 6:40 pm

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In post 1705, Hu Tao wrote: I'd like to be friends with you gamma :oops:
Thank you for the offer ig
message me on discord after the game
In post 1706, cw357 wrote: lol now gamma stops sheeping hahaaha
thanks for proving my point!
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Post Post #1711 (isolation #88) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 6:43 pm

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In post 1453, ssbm_Kyouko wrote: I was thinking about this game in bed last night and might have been too quick to overlook HPE.

The reason being, I feel like people have sort of come out of the woodwork now that Flavor is voting me, and I think HPE might be one of them. Like Hu Tao i think has voiced suspicion of me pretty consistently - maybe I haven't noticed HPE/Pav doing the same but I feel like for someone my wagon is convenient and that's actually how scum on my wagon will be found. Going to start by catching up on the last few pages and then find old games
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This doesn’t feel natural, I would expect kyouko to still be pushing Pav here. This tells me she likely realizes it will get her nowhere and is attempting to correct course.
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Post Post #1713 (isolation #89) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 6:44 pm

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In post 1710, cw357 wrote:
In post 1708, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1438, cw357 wrote: please vig dragon or hu tao (preferably dragon)
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HELLO SIR I AM CW357 I HAVE A VERY VERY IMPORTANT QUESTION FOR YOU TODAY
MY QUESTION SIR THAT I WOULD VERY LIKE TO ASK IS WHAT THE REASONING IS FOR THE AFOREMENTIONED STATEMENT WHICH YOU SIR HAVE PROVIDED TO US

THANK YOU AND HAVE AN EXCELLENT DAY
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Post Post #1718 (isolation #90) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 6:48 pm

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In post 1458, ssbm_Kyouko wrote: This is the easier portion of self-town-metaing. I've never used "parrot" or "parroting" as scum before. I'll look at scumgames next to see if I can find some scum tunnels.
:shifty: :shifty: :shifty: :shifty:
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Post Post #1720 (isolation #91) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 6:50 pm

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DE is a bad shot because if kyouko flips scum he should be readable solely from his reaction.
And even once I’m caught up I’m not quite ready to vote kyouko since I want Flavor to acknowledge me on the above.
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Post Post #1721 (isolation #92) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 6:50 pm

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Or he can do so now and safe me some time getting that from him
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Post Post #1722 (isolation #93) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 6:54 pm

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I’m caught up now
UNVOTE: since the symbolism of the vote is done
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Post Post #1725 (isolation #94) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 7:20 pm

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In that case I was indicating I think that post by cw feels hella forced and you townreading it was cringe
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Post Post #1726 (isolation #95) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 7:20 pm

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FUCK
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Post Post #1727 (isolation #96) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 7:21 pm

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In post 1723, DragonEater70 wrote:
In post 1535, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 823, DragonEater70 wrote:
In post 808, cw357 wrote: holy shit could flavor actually be conftown

this will crumble all my reads
I don't believe it yet though
lol cw is town
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?

btw I am currently skimming the last few pages and then I will read Kyouko's posts more in depth and also possibly comment on some posts by HPE that I definitely missed because I am skimming very quickly

So don't think me posting this means I'll forever ignore every post prior to 1535
My pagetop was in response to this
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Post Post #1728 (isolation #97) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 7:22 pm

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In post 1724, DragonEater70 wrote:
In post 1563, Flavor Leaf wrote: My current solve is Kyouko, CW, and one of Hu Tao/Dragon.

Geraint could slide in there if they’re scum in place of one of them, but I’m pretty happy with the other slots.

Most of Kyouko’s posts today were a lot of IioA, and there were conclusions made directed towards HPE.

I just think HPE fits the bill of impressionable town (not in a bad way) and takes the time to consider the cases that get presented.

Feels like they’ve just been on too many of the wagons outwardly, and i don’t think scum do it like that that often.
I'm telling you with 100% certainty that this is a wrong solve

I'm also pretty sure Gamma is scum from her catch up
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Post Post #1729 (isolation #98) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 7:23 pm

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If you’re town then you’re fucking dogshit at reading me
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Post Post #1733 (isolation #99) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 7:50 pm

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yeah you’re really not beating the “bad at mafia” allegations are you
and btw I think the reason 2317 was lost was mainly because the wagons that were put on scum were let slip through the towns’ fingers. I’m still honestly fucking livid about that D1.
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Post Post #1737 (isolation #100) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 7:55 pm

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Stick to the plan, Flavor Leaf. Do not shoot DE if kyouko flips scum.
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Post Post #1743 (isolation #101) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 7:58 pm

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In post 1738, DragonEater70 wrote:
In post 1729, Gamma Emerald wrote: If you’re town then you’re fucking dogshit at reading me
Are you sure? I locktowned you in both Love Child and Mini 2317
For reasons that clearly are not that good, based on what you’ve chosen to townread cw for
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Post Post #1747 (isolation #102) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 8:02 pm

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In post 1743, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1738, DragonEater70 wrote:
In post 1729, Gamma Emerald wrote: If you’re town then you’re fucking dogshit at reading me
Are you sure? I locktowned you in both Love Child and Mini 2317
For reasons that clearly are not that good, based on what you’ve chosen to townread cw for
And while my focus is not on you today, tomorrow you better believe I am going to be on your ass like brown on bread. If your reasoning for calling me scum falls short I will be screaming for your head on a pike for sure.
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Post Post #1760 (isolation #103) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 8:09 pm

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In post 1751, DragonEater70 wrote:
In post 1743, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1738, DragonEater70 wrote:
In post 1729, Gamma Emerald wrote: If you’re town then you’re fucking dogshit at reading me
Are you sure? I locktowned you in both Love Child and Mini 2317
For reasons that clearly are not that good, based on what you’ve chosen to townread cw for
I am not really townreading cw

Also that's a really fucking bad fallacy

Like you just said I can't read you, Gamma, and when I try to prove I can, you try to show I can't read people in general by pointing out a totally unrelated read.
I don’t care what your current read on cw is because if you’re seriously saying you think forced posting is towny then you are, just, UGH
And my point with that fallacy was to get you to think about how you’ve come to the reads you have. You may have read me correctly a couple of times but I don’t think you’ve really managed to show your work enough to be a reliable source of reading me. To gain my respect in that regard is something to be earned.
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Post Post #1762 (isolation #104) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 8:14 pm

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Flavor, what will it take for you to agree to my request? I really feel like with how DE has planted himself this game, a kyouko scumflip uproots him to the point that he should be readable from the response to that fact alone.
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Post Post #1766 (isolation #105) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 8:18 pm

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Do you at least agree with my opinion that DE’s reaction to a kyouko scumflip should be telling? I don’t need an assurance that you’ll follow the letter of my idea as long as you recognize the spirit of it.
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Post Post #1776 (isolation #106) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 8:27 pm

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In post 1769, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 1766, Gamma Emerald wrote: Do you at least agree with my opinion that DE’s reaction to a kyouko scumflip should be telling? I don’t need an assurance that you’ll follow the letter of my idea as long as you recognize the spirit of it.
telling in what way?They think she's town, if Kyouko flips town, they can go the i knew it route, and if she flips scum, he can go the 'good job, thats on me' route.
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So much for our fucking history, I thought you respected me enough to give me some goddamn runway for when you’d more than likely be out of the game and I’d have to carry the torch.
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Post Post #1779 (isolation #107) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 8:29 pm

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In post 1777, Flavor Leaf wrote: how else were they supposed to act?
I have ideas in mind but I don’t wanna fucking spell them out, DUH
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Post Post #1783 (isolation #108) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 8:30 pm

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In post 1778, cw357 wrote:
In post 1776, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1769, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 1766, Gamma Emerald wrote: Do you at least agree with my opinion that DE’s reaction to a kyouko scumflip should be telling? I don’t need an assurance that you’ll follow the letter of my idea as long as you recognize the spirit of it.
telling in what way?They think she's town, if Kyouko flips town, they can go the i knew it route, and if she flips scum, he can go the 'good job, thats on me' route.
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Yeah sure, give him a fucking script.
So much for our fucking history, I thought you respected me enough to give me some goddamn runway for when you’d more than likely be out of the game and I’d have to carry the torch.
why can't I carry the torch? :(
We both came to the same solve independently. You did not even come close to either of our solves. If there a torxh being carried, I’m the one doing it.
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Post Post #1786 (isolation #109) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 8:32 pm

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In post 1784, cw357 wrote:
In post 1783, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1778, cw357 wrote:
In post 1776, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1769, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 1766, Gamma Emerald wrote: Do you at least agree with my opinion that DE’s reaction to a kyouko scumflip should be telling? I don’t need an assurance that you’ll follow the letter of my idea as long as you recognize the spirit of it.
telling in what way?They think she's town, if Kyouko flips town, they can go the i knew it route, and if she flips scum, he can go the 'good job, thats on me' route.
:facepalm:
Yeah sure, give him a fucking script.
So much for our fucking history, I thought you respected me enough to give me some goddamn runway for when you’d more than likely be out of the game and I’d have to carry the torch.
why can't I carry the torch? :(
We both came to the same solve independently. You did not even come close to either of our solves. If there a torxh being carried, I’m the one doing it.
"independently" - no
it's not a solve if ur wrong
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Post Post #1792 (isolation #110) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 8:42 pm

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You do realize what I said doesn’t at all get invalidated by Flavor’s solve evolving? Fucking chump.
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Post Post #1795 (isolation #111) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 8:44 pm

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I was probably gonna vote kyouko before going to sleep but I’m not so sure now. I honestly have nothing to prove here, if Flavor seriously thinks derailing this entire game to punish me for not going his way is the right play then more fucking power to him.
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Post Post #1796 (isolation #112) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 8:46 pm

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In post 1794, cw357 wrote:
In post 1792, Gamma Emerald wrote: You do realize what I said doesn’t at all get invalidated by Flavor’s solve evolving? Fucking chump.
So you admit you could be scum? HAHAHA GOTCHA

THIS MEAT IS NOW FRESH
I WANT FRESH MEAT
Go back to Twitter you fucking chode.
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Post Post #1798 (isolation #113) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 8:59 pm

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degenerates like you, belong on a cross (in game)
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Post Post #1861 (isolation #114) » Fri Dec 29, 2023 7:11 am

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In post 1857, Hu Tao wrote: I think joyboy/gamma is still the worst slot here
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This does not seem like a real read, you’re just coasting on your prior stance without re-evaluating.
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Post Post #1867 (isolation #115) » Fri Dec 29, 2023 7:17 am

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In post 1865, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 1861, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1857, Hu Tao wrote: I think joyboy/gamma is still the worst slot here
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This does not seem like a real read, you’re just coasting on your prior stance without re-evaluating.
Based on your earlier post, you said my read made sense so I'm probably scum. Still feel the same? Cause you're kinda saying here my read doesn't make sense and implying I'm still scum
That’s not what I’m saying. The point about you not evaluating me based on my post and just sticking to your pre-determined read is NAI. If you’re scum you made the read up, if you’re town you formed it looking at joyboy’s posts.
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Post Post #1887 (isolation #116) » Fri Dec 29, 2023 7:30 am

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In post 1881, Flavor Leaf wrote: Also, everyone trying to use Gamma meta, but I’ve played more games with Gamma than everyone in this game combined.
mmm
games played doesn’t always equate to meta proficiency
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Post Post #1893 (isolation #117) » Fri Dec 29, 2023 7:33 am

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VOTE: kyouko
I’m locking this in
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Post Post #1943 (isolation #118) » Sun Dec 31, 2023 10:57 am

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vanilla here
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Post Post #1945 (isolation #119) » Sun Dec 31, 2023 11:06 am

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claim order since I don’t care enough to pick a popcorn rn
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Post Post #1978 (isolation #120) » Sun Dec 31, 2023 12:40 pm

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In post 1969, Flavor Leaf wrote:
HPE->Purple->Pavowski->Dragon->Hu Tao->FL
did gera claim?
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Post Post #1982 (isolation #121) » Sun Dec 31, 2023 12:44 pm

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aight
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Post Post #2020 (isolation #122) » Sun Dec 31, 2023 8:29 pm

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scum rb vs cop+vig is just short on town power imo
idk how the math works in the case of scum JK
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Post Post #2076 (isolation #123) » Mon Jan 01, 2024 9:59 am

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In post 2051, Flavor Leaf wrote: A role blocker and a BP probably fill out the scum team
If DE is town, maybe
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Post Post #2077 (isolation #124) » Mon Jan 01, 2024 10:01 am

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In post 2060, Flavor Leaf wrote: Imagine HPE, Pavowski, and CW as Team Rocket this game….

I don’t think i need to tell you who’s who.
Your head is so far up your own ass your eyes are sticking out your nose atp
HPE and cw are not scum together EVER
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Post Post #2078 (isolation #125) » Mon Jan 01, 2024 10:01 am

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HPE/gera/cw are the slot I’d like to vote out rn
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Post Post #2089 (isolation #126) » Mon Jan 01, 2024 2:06 pm

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In post 2080, Flavor Leaf wrote: So here’s my conclusion

When i claimed my confirmed Vig shot, I became a scary IC. This made every slot have to fear for the vig shot and not able to push me.

It then became a game of town trying to get me to town read them and scum trying to prevent that.

So I’m gonna side with team Dragon Eater/Hu Tao because they tried harder to get me on the same page with them, and every single day phase at one point, i started the day early town reading the two of them.

+

I already went through my possibilities with them, and i have no more effort to fight for that, and they’ll just win with higher effort if they are scum.

So yeah, Hu Tao/Dragon/FL town core.
I think you underestimate scum’s ability to sneak into your blind spots. No problem with that towncore. Just a point for the road.
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Post Post #2090 (isolation #127) » Mon Jan 01, 2024 2:08 pm

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In post 2081, Pavowski wrote:
In post 2080, Flavor Leaf wrote: So here’s my conclusion

When i claimed my confirmed Vig shot, I became a scary IC. This made every slot have to fear for the vig shot and not able to push me.

It then became a game of town trying to get me to town read them and scum trying to prevent that.

That maybe explains why day 2 felt so interminable, lotta eggshell walking

I still don't see the Hu Tao town read, but to be 100% honest, I kinda sorta tuned out the back end of d2 and was hoping for some NK analysis. I probably need to read back a bit but good gravy that's a lot of reading. Probably rather look back at the wagons, esp d2

And ... you're TRing Dragon again. Jesus Christ you give me whiplash sometimes dude
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Post Post #2092 (isolation #128) » Mon Jan 01, 2024 2:14 pm

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I don’t think town whines about it quite like that though. Feels like you’re more invested in knowing where FL stands than you perhaps should be. I get him being vig is a Big Deal but I can tell you I haven’t let his presence become as groundbreaking as it seems to be for you.
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Post Post #2106 (isolation #129) » Mon Jan 01, 2024 3:00 pm

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I bit off more than I could chew when I voted Pav but I would bet the game on his scum flip rn
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Post Post #2112 (isolation #130) » Mon Jan 01, 2024 3:04 pm

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In post 2109, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 2105, HighPrincessErinys wrote:
In post 2102, Flavor Leaf wrote: my read accuracy is higher than yours at the present.
By virtue of repeatedly asserting that Lap was obvtown after hammering them. Very accurate, indeed.
I said it beforehand too
did hammering Lap actually help you catch scum at all?
I think you are treating PRs as some golden calf, and that is leading you to killing slots you townread because “oops can’t risk voting out a PR!”
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Post Post #2117 (isolation #131) » Mon Jan 01, 2024 3:07 pm

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In post 2113, Flavor Leaf wrote: HPE using a lot of unconfirmed reaction test reads to try and bush bad reads and ignoring the fact they actively pushed both of the misfades as scum :lol:

Remember, Lap wagon gained momentum in counter to an HPE wagon Day 1 too.

And Kyouko ended up scum reading HPE, and Kyouko flipped town.
I hate that it’s in this position because I made this call in BTXVII and it was wrong
Can you point out anything I’m overlooking that’s different between this and that?
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Post Post #2118 (isolation #132) » Mon Jan 01, 2024 3:07 pm

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In post 2115, Pavowski wrote:
In post 2106, Gamma Emerald wrote: I bit off more than I could chew when I voted Pav but I would bet the game on his scum flip rn
Bad bet, just like Bama to win
you can go fuck yourself, Bama didn’t even deserve that playoff spot
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Post Post #2121 (isolation #133) » Mon Jan 01, 2024 3:10 pm

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Sorry that was hasty, thought you were saying I liked Bama, I don’t. Bulldogs for life!
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Post Post #2125 (isolation #134) » Mon Jan 01, 2024 3:14 pm

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I saw that HPE had been the wagon before the day’s lim on days 1 and 2 and drove the vote onto it in part to resolve that concern, it wasn’t that strong an SR I just needed to clear the fog
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Post Post #2126 (isolation #135) » Mon Jan 01, 2024 3:17 pm

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@Pav
once this game ends I have an idea for a hydra name for us, tho I don’t expect it will see immediate use
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Post Post #2158 (isolation #136) » Tue Jan 02, 2024 4:43 am

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In post 2156, Pavowski wrote: Oops I broke the spoiler tag, yuck
you’re supposed to use spoiler=
I hate that the blackout tag is the default
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Post Post #2159 (isolation #137) » Tue Jan 02, 2024 4:44 am

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In post 2153, geraintm wrote:
In post 2132, Flavor Leaf wrote: Kyouko flip just helped so much on adding to the VCA. By wagonomics, HPE and Geraint both look pretty rough on Lap, and HPE on Kyouko.
My day 1 vote was rough? You know I was only voting thr longest wagon so we could get today 2, right?
Did you even do anything D2?
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Post Post #2169 (isolation #138) » Tue Jan 02, 2024 8:07 am

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In post 2165, Purplemango wrote:
In post 2164, Pavowski wrote: Purple, could you give some thoughts on some other slots

Like HPE, Gamma, Hu Tao in particular
What the word 'slot' means? You all use it

From the three of them, most to the less
1. HPE
2 gamma
3 hu tao
Hu tao act like a town, and talk cool
Idk about gamma
HPE probably the best choice, and its kinda make sense
Why do you have no read on me? Did my predecessor make any impression?
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Post Post #2220 (isolation #139) » Wed Jan 03, 2024 9:42 am

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How did HPE react to the D1 wagon?
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Post Post #2226 (isolation #140) » Wed Jan 03, 2024 11:07 am

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In post 2222, DragonEater70 wrote: Gamma can you hammer your buddy please
fuck off
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Post Post #2233 (isolation #141) » Wed Jan 03, 2024 12:57 pm

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In post 2227, DragonEater70 wrote: I take it you think HPE is town?

Fine then I'll ask Pav to bus instead.

@Pav if you bus HPE you can be both Jessie and Meowth simultaneously. AND James to top it of. In fact you can also be Mewtwo because I'm feeling generous today
Nah HPE can be scum, I just dislike the wording of your request
I am actually mid-ISO on HPE, I will probably finish after finishing with work
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Post Post #2236 (isolation #142) » Wed Jan 03, 2024 1:12 pm

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In post 2235, Flavor Leaf wrote: I might be leaning HPE, Purple, Geraint right now.

There is obviously a scum or 2 in HPE/Pav/Gamma, but I could see Pav and Gamma being town here in this scenario. Pav will look bad regardless of HPE flip, though, so idk.

In regards to CW, I spent half this game trying to get them faded.

It's on y'all if they're scum now, cuz im probably never voting there. shoulda just killed them day 1 lol
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It ain’t fucking on me if cw is scum, I actually wanted that D2 and you railroaded it onto kyouko
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Post Post #2264 (isolation #143) » Wed Jan 03, 2024 1:55 pm

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In post 2244, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 230, HighPrincessErinys wrote:
In post 199, DragonEater70 wrote: I won't steal it

However, I'll use this pagebottom to say I'm fine with a Pav/Flavor/Dragon town core for now

And I'm also going to revote HPE

VOTE: HPE
snoreeee mimimimimi. includes self in the towncore too...
In post 231, HighPrincessErinys wrote: What's Laplacian at in terms of elim exactly?
HPE even commented to a post on the start of it trying to discredit the town core.
Yeah that bothered me too
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I don’t think I need to complete that ISO atp, think I read to where I needed to for the needed context
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Post Post #2282 (isolation #144) » Wed Jan 03, 2024 5:25 pm

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you can hammer if you want
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Post Post #2313 (isolation #145) » Sat Jan 06, 2024 2:41 pm

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VOTE: pav
Dislike his entry today and my feelings from yday still remain
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Post Post #2351 (isolation #146) » Sat Jan 06, 2024 5:08 pm

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In post 2318, Flavor Leaf wrote: Plus, I called the gambit out if so, and that’s some type of win for me if DE is scum.
What about the rest of the town?
selfish bastard (I kid)
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Post Post #2352 (isolation #147) » Sat Jan 06, 2024 5:09 pm

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By I kid I meant “I don’t think dragon is scum anyway” since I just meant to criticize your mindset
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Post Post #2353 (isolation #148) » Sat Jan 06, 2024 5:24 pm

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I also meant*
Foot-in-mouth festival over here
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Post Post #2357 (isolation #149) » Sat Jan 06, 2024 7:24 pm

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In post 2354, Flavor Leaf wrote: Let me sit for a bit, Gamma.

If you’re town, you and I have to link up more I think.

Is there a way Dragon is scum here and blocking me to specifically stop me from shooting scum/and no killing to help solidify their standing, or are they just town actually protecting kills?
I’m saying personal victories aren’t exactly consolation for people that aren’t you. I don’t think Dragon scum here rn.
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Post Post #2370 (isolation #150) » Sat Jan 06, 2024 9:50 pm

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In post 2361, Flavor Leaf wrote: i would prefer not Pav today.
Why the fuck not?
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Post Post #2371 (isolation #151) » Sat Jan 06, 2024 9:53 pm

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Open 895 recently ended so I can now clarify why Pav pinged the shit out of me on D3. His frustration at Flavor’s rapidly changing reads felt like how I’ve felt about Black’s ever-shifting reads as scum. It’s an incredibly frustrating thing to play around.
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Post Post #2375 (isolation #152) » Sat Jan 06, 2024 11:02 pm

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In post 2372, Flavor Leaf wrote: best pav case imo
Thank you, but this feels like a case of “damned by superlative with a low bar”
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Post Post #2465 (isolation #153) » Sun Jan 07, 2024 1:30 pm

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Gotta do some quick maffs
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Post Post #2468 (isolation #154) » Sun Jan 07, 2024 1:34 pm

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I feel like the “third scum” is the better aim for today if Dragon is scum because I think he’s boxed into bringing a clear to the end if he ends ip last scum alive.
Has Dragon actually declared he’s ungated JK? This idea only works if he has.
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Post Post #2475 (isolation #155) » Sun Jan 07, 2024 1:43 pm

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In post 2470, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 2468, Gamma Emerald wrote: I feel like the “third scum” is the better aim for today if Dragon is scum because I think he’s boxed into bringing a clear to the end if he ends ip last scum alive.
Has Dragon actually declared he’s ungated JK? This idea only works if he has.
Why does boxing in a clear matter? He has Purple and Hu Tao setup to be cleared.
Okay, do you think he can sway either of them in 3p?
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Post Post #2478 (isolation #156) » Sun Jan 07, 2024 1:44 pm

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In post 2474, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 2468, Gamma Emerald wrote: I feel like the “third scum” is the better aim for today if Dragon is scum because I think he’s boxed into bringing a clear to the end if he ends ip last scum alive.
Has Dragon actually declared he’s ungated JK? This idea only works if he has.
he claimed 2-shot, then acted again.

They also specifically played survivalistcally on Night 2 with it when I was hitting scum.

Also, in that small situation where Dragon would be town, and then I somehow vig town after that, town is still in a 3-2 scenario.

So it's cap to say it's a terrible vote when worst case scenario, get to play late game mountainous with 4 full days to read off of.

That is WORST case scenario.
You didn’t telegraph shit and were sounding like you were shooting Dragon. WHY THE FUCK WOULD HE NOT USE HIS NIGHT ACTION TO SURVIVE AS TOWN?
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Post Post #2482 (isolation #157) » Sun Jan 07, 2024 1:46 pm

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-_-
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Post Post #2487 (isolation #158) » Sun Jan 07, 2024 1:49 pm

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oooo flavor makes a point that sorta sticks with me
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Post Post #2489 (isolation #159) » Sun Jan 07, 2024 1:51 pm

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In post 2372, Flavor Leaf wrote: best pav case imo
This response felt like you had some alternative idea that prevented you from really agreebut you didn’t want to share. Have you posted it, if not could you please do so?
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Post Post #2491 (isolation #160) » Sun Jan 07, 2024 1:56 pm

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In post 2490, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 2489, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2372, Flavor Leaf wrote: best pav case imo
This response felt like you had some alternative idea that prevented you from really agreebut you didn’t want to share. Have you posted it, if not could you please do so?
your case on Pav was the best case I've seen for a scum Pav case all game, even though people were trying so hard Day 2 to hit them.

However, I think that's DragonEater with My reads, not Pav with me.

Pav and I lowkey been vibing together all game, and I really don't think they're trying to pocket.

Dragon has the energy of scum trying to control me and thinks they can, then when i sway away, they get super chaotic.
Okay,
there’s
the unspoken “but…”. You think Dragon is a better example of what I’m suggesting.
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Post Post #2492 (isolation #161) » Sun Jan 07, 2024 1:57 pm

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How close is dragon on votes rn?
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Post Post #2496 (isolation #162) » Sun Jan 07, 2024 2:04 pm

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VOTE: dragoneater70
Not in full agreement but you’ve made enough good points to hold my attention
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Post Post #2505 (isolation #163) » Sun Jan 07, 2024 2:49 pm

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:cop:
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Post Post #2510 (isolation #164) » Sun Jan 07, 2024 5:11 pm

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Why do you keep saying scum have 2 strong PRs? Very weird
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Post Post #2518 (isolation #165) » Sun Jan 07, 2024 6:50 pm

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Flavor just went hyperfization mode on the thread
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Post Post #2524 (isolation #166) » Sun Jan 07, 2024 7:01 pm

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I think Flavor has been very clear on that matter.
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Post Post #2525 (isolation #167) » Sun Jan 07, 2024 7:01 pm

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Post Post #2531 (isolation #168) » Sun Jan 07, 2024 7:16 pm

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I think he shoots me before he shoots you, is how I would look at it att
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Post Post #2532 (isolation #169) » Sun Jan 07, 2024 7:16 pm

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In post 2530, DragonEater70 wrote:
In post 2524, Gamma Emerald wrote: I think Flavor has been very clear on that matter.
Who? Not reading 4 pages of Flavor tunnel right now
Me or hu tao
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Post Post #2544 (isolation #170) » Sun Jan 07, 2024 7:40 pm

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I don’t think kyouko ever brought out her tell on me in this game though so I see her lockscumming me as just an emotional outburst
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Post Post #2578 (isolation #171) » Mon Jan 08, 2024 6:40 am

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In post 2566, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 2558, Pavowski wrote: If town has 3 PRs scum have to have 2, and they've done apparently fuck-all in this game.

If town has 2, scum only have 1.

Which feels more likely given the game state?
I agree this is what I was saying. Let's pretend Dragon is town. What would scum have here? RB? Not sure what else. Role cop? Idk
I don’t disagree that it is probably 2 PRs for scum, I just think saying they’re strong ones with zero doubt is a bit TMI-ish
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Post Post #2579 (isolation #172) » Mon Jan 08, 2024 6:41 am

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In post 2569, DragonEater70 wrote:
In post 2550, Flavor Leaf wrote: Dragon has been saying that Purple and Hu Tao are always town here. With me also being town, that left Gamma, Pav, CW, and Geraint. It was looking like I would shoot Geraint, right? (I had said I was starting to lean town on Geraint yesterday, but I digress), but even with those odds, that is a 25% chance of blocking a kill going one of those slots, and I could have eliminated another from play, yet they chose to prevent me from making a kill.

The math of the game not mattering if a kill went through or not made sense to No Kill there too because it didn't open up another reveal.

The scum team with any combination of those 4 players also would never No Kill since Dragon claimed 2-shot JK.
DID YOU FORGET THERE IS A CONFIRMED ROLEBLOCKER FROM MY POV????

If I didn't block you, you would have died and no kill would have happened.
If scum have a blocker that isn’t you, why aren’t you dead? They can just block flavor and kill you
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Post Post #2586 (isolation #173) » Mon Jan 08, 2024 10:08 am

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ngl I’m tired and just want this game to end
Can people post their top 2 preferred votes? Mine are Dragon and Hu Tao
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Post Post #2590 (isolation #174) » Mon Jan 08, 2024 10:14 am

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In post 2588, DragonEater70 wrote:
In post 2586, Gamma Emerald wrote: ngl I’m tired and just want this game to end
Can people post their top 2 preferred votes? Mine are Dragon and Hu Tao
Please explain why because earlier you were scumreading Pav, and both me and HT are town.
Flavor made good points on you, and I dislike Hu Tao’s approach this game day
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Post Post #2594 (isolation #175) » Mon Jan 08, 2024 10:33 am

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maybe, I just feel like you're specifically trying to undermine flavor and I think it could be agenda driven
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Post Post #2596 (isolation #176) » Mon Jan 08, 2024 10:38 am

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nice strawman, pal :roll:
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Post Post #2599 (isolation #177) » Mon Jan 08, 2024 10:42 am

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I don't know how to respond to your responses because you're mutilating my thoughts. That's why I'm calling you out for strawmanning, you're seemingly trying to change the point of discussion to weaken my position.
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Post Post #2601 (isolation #178) » Mon Jan 08, 2024 10:45 am

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you're changing the subject by making about her vote, though
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Post Post #2603 (isolation #179) » Mon Jan 08, 2024 11:35 am

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In post 2467, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 2415, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 2412, Pavowski wrote: I could be sold on scum!Purple, especially given recent play as I said earlier

I could also be sold on scum!CW, I think there's merit in the HPE/CW beef as s/s

That would leave out Dragon and Hu Tao, though
i agree with merit in HPE/CW potential beef.

That being said, I think CW since Day 2 has been spitting pure genuineness, even at the extent of being ridiculous.

And I actually think based on the way DE and CW reacted to my vig, they arent scum together here (also CW push on DE)

VOTE: DragonEater

I'm willing to take this day to stop DE. I've been trying to die frankly, because I can completely tell scum are actively trying to work me.
Terrible vote
In post 2473, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 2452, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 2449, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 2387, Flavor Leaf wrote: Thing is, I can see Vig + Cop vs JK

Vig + Cop + JK has the potential to win N1, which i don’t love.
I agree that seems strong for us. But scum probably have 2 strong prs left?
i saw you say this earlier in my reread against just a Vig/Cop. I am torn with you. There's a lot of things that I can see coming from Tao Town, but I think if you are town, Dragon has used you this game a lot, and thus is forcing an associative from you. Right now, I think 3rd scum is you or maybe Geraint, but frankly, I'm starting to see the town Geraint I know. Purple or Gamma have some, but it's a little harder for me to see on this reread of mine.


PEdit: I'm starting to see that, Geraint. Would you be open to voting Dragon? I think that would ease the associations, because I dont believe you bus here.
If you think it's Gera why not just vote with me on gera?
In post 2483, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 2476, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 2473, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 2452, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 2449, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 2387, Flavor Leaf wrote: Thing is, I can see Vig + Cop vs JK

Vig + Cop + JK has the potential to win N1, which i don’t love.
I agree that seems strong for us. But scum probably have 2 strong prs left?
i saw you say this earlier in my reread against just a Vig/Cop. I am torn with you. There's a lot of things that I can see coming from Tao Town, but I think if you are town, Dragon has used you this game a lot, and thus is forcing an associative from you. Right now, I think 3rd scum is you or maybe Geraint, but frankly, I'm starting to see the town Geraint I know. Purple or Gamma have some, but it's a little harder for me to see on this reread of mine.


PEdit: I'm starting to see that, Geraint. Would you be open to voting Dragon? I think that would ease the associations, because I dont believe you bus here.
If you think it's Gera why not just vote with me on gera?
You see, I don't get a Vig with Dragon living. On a setup level, it doesn't make sense for Dragon to be town here based on the setup.

You talk about scum having 2 Strong PR's still.

What have they been doing with them then? Role Cop. Weak af. Ascetic to block a Jailkeeper shot and cop? Fine, then it still makes sense to hit the JK here.

There's just reasons and reasons why Dragon is objectively and mechanically scum here, and you aren't providing a single reason against it.

And thats because I think you are pocketed probs, could you be defending and you played together that much? Sure.

But speak to me, Hu Tao. Why does Dragon town read you?
I think it's cause he has read me wrong as town before tbh. But regardless I think his claim is town.
In post 2508, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 2501, Flavor Leaf wrote: also, another big one, we just gonna sit here and act like all 3 scum claim Vanilla in a low PR game with no scum revealed?

Especially considering if scum were really going against JK, Cop, and Vig, as Hu Tao said, there would be 2 strong PR's on the scum team, and they just all choose to claim Vanilla, and then we hit a Goon?

Ya, no.

This is a JK or Roleblocker, Goon, Goon vs Cop/Vig setup
This is the best argument for dragon scum i agree. But I still think his play isn't making sense as scum here
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In post 2522, Flavor Leaf wrote: I’m locked in. This pop in confirms it for me
If Dragon is scum who is the partner? Because I think going there is safer
these ones
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Post Post #2607 (isolation #180) » Mon Jan 08, 2024 11:39 am

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why do you keep calling zem purpleheart?
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Post Post #2662 (isolation #181) » Mon Jan 08, 2024 3:58 pm

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In post 2660, Flavor Leaf wrote: Hu Tao and Gamma is very possible.

Especially with the way Hu Tao sat on Joyboy all game.
that would be funny, it would basically be the team from love child but with my slot in the place of ircher
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Post Post #2666 (isolation #182) » Mon Jan 08, 2024 4:16 pm

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In post 2665, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 2664, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 2594, Gamma Emerald wrote: maybe, I just feel like you're specifically trying to undermine flavor and I think it could be agenda driven
What??? :lol:
yeah not a good look. gamma, if scum, was still right about this
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Post Post #2673 (isolation #183) » Mon Jan 08, 2024 8:52 pm

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UNVOTE:
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Post Post #2675 (isolation #184) » Mon Jan 08, 2024 9:06 pm

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Post Post #2676 (isolation #185) » Mon Jan 08, 2024 9:06 pm

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FUCK THE PAGETOP RUINED MY JOKE
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Post Post #2682 (isolation #186) » Tue Jan 09, 2024 3:20 am

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Post Post #2684 (isolation #187) » Tue Jan 09, 2024 8:29 am

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Purple can be scum but that feels like a choice that delays what needs to be done
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Post Post #2694 (isolation #188) » Tue Jan 09, 2024 8:54 am

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What even is you case on me, Hu Tao?
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Post Post #2696 (isolation #189) » Tue Jan 09, 2024 8:57 am

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Do you actually think that a) I have it in me to obvtown and b) that you would actually be able to see it? I have been in this game for 3 phases and yet your read on my slot is still predominantly based on my predecessor. That’s a cop out.
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Post Post #2698 (isolation #190) » Tue Jan 09, 2024 9:09 am

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Okay but a) my WIM is less than in that game and b) you’re not even reading me based on my content now, what is supposed to indicate you’d ever start?
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Post Post #2713 (isolation #191) » Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:58 am

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Why would 4t2s be the last day?
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Post Post #2721 (isolation #192) » Tue Jan 09, 2024 11:21 am

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In post 2715, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 2713, Gamma Emerald wrote: Why would 4t2s be the last day?
Is this a slip?
DIE! SHUT THE FUCK UP! I HATE YOU!
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Post Post #2722 (isolation #193) » Tue Jan 09, 2024 11:22 am

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That was a genuine question because it felt like you slipped and I was acting in good faith. I WILL NEVER ASSUME GOOD FAITH FROM YOUR LYING CHEATING AND STEALING ASS AGAIN.
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Post Post #2724 (isolation #194) » Tue Jan 09, 2024 11:26 am

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:roll:
Don’t act like you care when you clearly don’t and just enjoy bugging me to no end.
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Post Post #2725 (isolation #195) » Tue Jan 09, 2024 11:26 am

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Post Post #2727 (isolation #196) » Tue Jan 09, 2024 11:28 am

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Maybe don’t twist my fucking words!!!
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Post Post #2729 (isolation #197) » Tue Jan 09, 2024 11:36 am

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This feels personal though.
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Post Post #2731 (isolation #198) » Tue Jan 09, 2024 11:40 am

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Oh I’m sure she feels nothing, but that doesn’t mean she can’t exploit me.
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Post Post #2754 (isolation #199) » Wed Jan 10, 2024 12:26 pm

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In post 2750, Ausuka wrote:
Votecount 4.5

With 8 players alive, it takes 5 votes to eliminate. Day 4 ends in (expired on 2024-01-16 21:32:18).


Votecount
Hu Tao (2)
- geraintm, Flavor Leaf
cw357 (1)
- DragonEater70
DragonEater70 (1)
- cw357
Pavowski (1)
- Hu Tao
Purplemango (1)
- geraintm

Not Voting (2)
- Pavowski, Purplemango


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