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[Gamma Emerald]

i get feelings of save kyouko energy.

It feels more to me like Gamma is going to get Kyouko killed atm

???

It just seems like you're slowly leaning more and more towards voting Kyouko

I would be willing to vote kyouko once I’m caught up but most of my reading has led me to finding cw suspicious.

[Gamma Emerald]

im not opposed to mass claim, but i think it's probs better tomorrow.

This feels highly uncharacteristic of you

[Flavor Leaf]

im not opposed to mass claim, but i think it's probs better tomorrow.

This feels highly uncharacteristic of you

i want the WIFOM of a possible protective on me.

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm not really defending cw, I just just want to kill Pav today. Do you disagree with the several posts I've made pointing out why he's scum?

hmmm

[Flavor Leaf]

i realize ived mixed a couple games together in this game at times. Might have to reanalyze that sometime, but probs just gonna move on from that and go forward from where im at. seems like a lot of work for something id naturally figure out anyways

[Gamma Emerald]

Hu Tao, can you talk about the PV/CW - Hu Tao/DragonEater dynamics to me? What are your thoughts on the 4 of you, not necessarily your read, but your thoughts on the 2 v 2 as a general thing.

I think that cw is probably town but will vote wrong tomorrow so he needs to go. Still a small chance he flips scum so better now then later. Pav seems to be the one who does soft defenses of cw so I think he could be the scum that wants cw alive for tomorrow.

In terms of Dragon and me. Could dragon ve pocketing me? Idk, I don't think so. Last time I played with dragon scum he was obvious and I called it day 1. I don't see that here. I think it's weird cw tries to push that me and dragon are a pair and his read seems very surface level which is why I think there is a chance cw flips scum.

I'm gonna locktown Hu Tao

So that makes 4 I'm never voting - Purple, Flavor, Hu Tao and myself.

Where’d kyouko go?

[Gamma Emerald]

I’m probably leaning Pavowski, CW, or Kyouko today.

I don't think cw is scum here

vrej
This substantially raises cw+kyouko partner equity

[Flavor Leaf]

alright alright, gamma starting to get where im at now

[Gamma Emerald]

Since we have a cop and vig. I'm guessing scum have 2 strong pr as well. So it's possible there is a scum that is being bussed by their teammates.

1 strong or 2 weak is more likely

[Gamma Emerald]

alright alright, gamma starting to get where im at now

I wasn’t before?

[Gamma Emerald]

also I think in the case cw+kyouko are scum it makes more sense yo vote cw first because that feels like kyouko falling on the sword to preserve cw

[Flavor Leaf]

(cw?, geraintm, joyboy?, flavor, myself, maybe DragonEater?) - players who reasonably could have found Thomith's cop crumb

It is not reasonable to expect me to find a crumb

this is kind of something, i think. why does kyouko think geraint would have seen that crumb?

We need to go somewhat decently higher profile today, so nobody in the low content slots, unfortunately.

Unless some major connections today happen with them, but i don’t think Geraint, Joyboy, or Purple are the types to get in the middle of things like that anyways.

geraint is definitely not
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I like some of what I'm seeing from Dragon and several days away from the game makes it feel fresh

these together are kind of rough for Kyouko. They push like they know Geraint, but nothing against Geraint, but Geraint is correct they never pick up that crumb there.

I also dont really know what kyouko is saying that geraint is definitely not, but it looks like they're pushing some kind of familiarity with it, but Geraint/Kyouko have a weird dynamic imo.

And the fact Geraint has that with anyone right now is kinda telling.

[Gamma Emerald]

I would agree though that if the strongest PR that has interaction with the town power comes under pressure, a goon will likely be sacrificed to save the scum PR

kyouko openly posting the scum agenda in the main thread

[Flavor Leaf]

also I think in the case cw+kyouko are scum it makes more sense yo vote cw first because that feels like kyouko falling on the sword to preserve cw

disagree. CW votes themselves and basically gave up after this, and sat on themselves for a while. I wasnt even on the wagon at the time, and they got to E-2. Pav and I vote CW and they were dead.

I also think there's warrant in getting a town Pavowski faded so I would vig shot a town (or scum) CW, protecting the other scum.

[Flavor Leaf]

i also feel like Kyouko can manipulate the game back to their liking moreso than CW can, so if scum are gonna fall, honestly, CW is the one that in theory should go down bar a lurker geraint.

[Gamma Emerald]

I've played 1 game with Thom before. I fooled them when I was scum. So I'd keep them alive again if I was scum tbh.

[Gamma Emerald]

i also feel like Kyouko can manipulate the game back to their liking moreso than CW can, so if scum are gonna fall, honestly, CW is the one that in theory should go down bar a lurker geraint.

Again: if CW is scum PR and kyouko is a goon that potentially trumps any recovery ideas.

[Flavor Leaf]

i also feel like Kyouko can manipulate the game back to their liking moreso than CW can, so if scum are gonna fall, honestly, CW is the one that in theory should go down bar a lurker geraint.

Again: if CW is scum PR and kyouko is a goon that potentially trumps any recovery ideas.

why would CW scum PR self vote themselves and put them into danger zone?

Idk, I see Kyouko is more likely scum PR.

[Flavor Leaf]

id rather get blocked by CW PR than risk CW town trolling flip this game tbh.

[Gamma Emerald]

Ok Dragon, what would scum!Purple be doing here?

Self vote is disgusting, hard to read that as towny right here

Is CW even close to getting yeeted right now? Lot of people talking about voting there but how many are actually there? Such a weird thing to do

If scum you're throwing, boo, hiss
If town you should make it as hard for scum as possible, there's like no chance you get limmed by town alone

Eh. I've self voted as town before. It's not the worst thing

[Gamma Emerald]

i also feel like Kyouko can manipulate the game back to their liking moreso than CW can, so if scum are gonna fall, honestly, CW is the one that in theory should go down bar a lurker geraint.

Again: if CW is scum PR and kyouko is a goon that potentially trumps any recovery ideas.

why would CW scum PR self vote themselves and put them into danger zone?

Idk, I see Kyouko is more likely scum PR.

AtE? I think most players give defeatism way too much towncred.

[Flavor Leaf]

I had my CW pushing phase. Done with it on Day 2 tbh.

[Flavor Leaf]

too much risk involved with CW in the case it's one of Dragon/Hu Tao or Gamma scum.

[Hu Tao]

I think we let gamma finish her catch up and then move on tbh. I'm getting to the point where I need to see a flip.

[Gamma Emerald]

(cw?, geraintm, joyboy?, flavor, myself, maybe DragonEater?) - players who reasonably could have found Thomith's cop crumb

Def not me, I once missed a crumb from my own slot

I say maybe DE because I don't have a guess one way or the other - cw seems experienced offsite, not sure if he's experienced in forum mafia where crumbs are a thing, and joyboy seems to be an alt so he could conceivably be able to find crumbs. Flavor, geraintm, and I have been around long enough we should all be reasonably capable of finding crumbs unless proven/suspected otherwise.

Also I'm pretty sure I've seen that exact same kind of crumb ('FBI' in capitals) used for a Cop before, so knowing I was looking specifically for Cop crumbs in Thomith's ISO, it was easy to find, especially since it was the first few posts.