Open 350: C9++ (Town Win!)

[kuribo]

The mod looked in sadness as lurkers lurked. "Why do they not post?" He shouted to no one. A voice, small at first, then louder, whispered "If you build it, he will come."

The mod took his building materials and made a shrine. Into it, he pured the malice and anger that bubbled beneath polite mafia play. He tempered the steel with raging constant posting. He painted it with the blood of fallen scum. He did these things, and read backwards from the Book of Solomon. And he beheld the arrival of a spirit of great vengeance and furious anger.

kuribo stepped from the smoke, looked at this lurking town and said simply, "I LIVE."

[kuribo]

oh what the hell, why did this guy blow his load with a claim already?

I'm gonna read this mess when I get home from work, and there damn well better be a good reason he did that.

[kuribo]

oh jesus fuck me

he outted himself while we have an innocent child that needs protecting?

have you people managed to do anything right?


oh, except whoever killed Shattered Viewpoint. Good call.

[kuribo]

don't be dense, of course they did, he even mentioned how they had put "conftown" at risk by outting him

[kuribo]

because there's no point in pretending that the idiocy isn't there in black and white for all eternity

if you don't think the scum didn't have their hands in their pants the second he claimed, I don't know what to tell you, but they damn sure won't forget.

[kuribo]

Hi Kuribo, welcome to the game.So how do you plan to play this out with your predecessor's claim?

pretty simple


i'm going to expose the scum to set you guys up to curb stomp them after i die tonight

[kuribo]

okay, re-reading now, get ready for a smorgasbord of posts while i tell you which ones of you are scum, and which of you are just idiots.

[kuribo]

I was trying to drag in some silly scum leaving myself at L-3 but you ruined it, oh well.

lolscum

(I'll assume you meant L-2 because you put yourself at L-3, so yeah.)

UNVOTE:
VOTE: pinkfloyd

L-2

(OMGGGG I PUT HIM AT L-2 I FELL FOR HIS SCUMTRAP WHOOOPS)

1. Trying to look helpful/pro-town but actually being useless ("OMG GAIZ JOHHOG IS CONFTOWN NOBODY FORGET THAT")
2. Making posts to look like he's being constructive when he's actually just making useless blanket attacks that don't add anything ("OMG GAIZ ANYBODY WHO MAKES A L-2 ON PAGE 2 IS CONFSCUM TRU STORY"
3. I'm not sure whether this post was serious or not, but whether intentional or not Zeek-dude makes a decent point here
4. "OMG GAIZ U ROOONED MAH GAMBIT OH WELL LET ME JUST LEAVE MY VOTE ON MYSELF ANYWAY EVEN THOUGH THERE'S NO POINT TO IT NAO"

Basically everything he's been doing is a pathetically transparent attempt to look pro-town when actually he's doing nothing at all.

There's also a cognitive dissonance between his "lol look at me lure some scum into putting me at L-2 hehehe i'm so awesome" and his "LOL RVS IS RVS NO SUSPECTS OR MOMENTUM LET'S ALL HAVE A PARTY"

what the hell was this shit? did you really think you had put together a serious case against someone after 30-odd posts? did you REALLY?

UNVOTE: redFF
VOTE: pinkfloyd

...on the other hand, if he's not even going to bother to play the game we may as well lynch him.

oh come on, you're better than this. if you're going to be town in the same game as me, please learn to detect sarcasm.

1 more!

I demand a lynch before 50 posts and even before everyone has posted!

well, now I want the mod to resurrect him so that *I* can quicklynch him.

[kuribo]

Wouldn't suprise me if this post was actually completely true. If it is, you've ruined the whole game because... you're bitter that you're so terrible at scum? ... Seriously?

Well, it didn't ruin the game because I'm not scum, so lulz at his attempt to throw a townie + Shattered View under the bus when he eventually flips scum.

holy shit, could this guy be projecting more?

for some reason I thought SV was shotty (SERIOUSLY COULD HAVE SWORN THIS)

but actually I just found out it's apparently [redacted]

o.0

/irrelevant-but-interesting(-to-me-at-least)

Oh no I know this is a game, that is why I am not taking this serious at all. I'm not a sore loser either, I don't know where that came from...

>>

Hoppster:

You're scum.

[Presents case]

>>

pinkfloyd:

[Ignores case]

YOU'RE RIGHT I'M SCUM PS HERE ARE MY SCUMBUDDIES BTW PLEASE LYNCH ME (HEHEAHAHA IF I'VE BEEN CAUGHT SO SOON MAY AS WELL RUIN THE GAME FOR EVERYBODY)

And if I do get lynched and I flip townie you all will have a nice wagon to look at.

well if you're town you should be able to analyse your wagon up to now without wasting a mislynch

sooooooooooooo

yeahhhhhhh

<adds quote to case of pinkfloyd trying to appear useful yet not being useful at all>

i have a hard time thinking that you believed any of this for one fucking second

Then you would be asking me why I ignored his mention of SV...

they're so cute when they're paranoid

HIVOTE: johhog because he sucks

let's all laugh at this guy


look at you, look how bad you are

[kuribo]

obviously it wasn't SLAMDUNK, but still pretty solid for page two

no it fucking isn't, it's NOTHING, and if you were serious about it being a case, you're either scum or developmentally disabled

pinkfloyd is useless as shit, but god damn, how the hell did you manage to get him lynched with that crapcase?

[kuribo]

holy moly activity is terrible

approaching 24 hours since day 2 has started

just five people posted

TWO OF THEM WERE MAKING THEIR BAH POSTS

fffffffffffffff

and now Johhog is ill it's pretty much just going to have me not being completely sure whether Twistedspoon is being srs or not

maybe if you stopped spamming with "not sure if srs" people would participate.

god damn, i think reading Hoppster's posts on pages 4 and 5 actually made me stupider

YOUR STUPID IS SO BAD IT MAY BE CONTAGIOUS AND SHOULD BE PLACED INTO A BIOMEDICAL WASTE BAG AND BURIED IN THE FUCKING DESERT

[kuribo]

He's probably town. Oh well, risks!!

how the hell did you guys let him get away with this crap?

no wagon analysis from yesterday?

oh, look, someone brings logic to this shitstorm

WE'LL HAVE NONE OF THAT IN THIS TOWN MISTER

[kuribo]

well it was obv the hammer was bad bit that doesn't necessarily mean scum. Scum aren't usually that daft

too stupid to be scum is not a valid defense

Sorry. I just had to do it.

LOLOLOLOLOL
VOTE: kad

ah, here we go. what the fuck is this? i mean, sure he was scummy for hammering, but from where i sit, your vote looks like bussing / easy mislynch. take your pick, really.

no

do you know how to play mafia

because I'm superobvtown this game

lay off the crackpipe, dude

I have scumhunted more than anybody else

I have more content than anybody else

I have made the only case of the game

I have a town wincon

So, yeah, preeeeeeeeeeeetty sure this is you being terrible.

all of these things are bold-faced lies

[kuribo]

also, you clealry haven't played with the SDC, I'm being called a dumbfuck in [redacted]

guess you won't be surprised if i call you a dumbfuck here, too

[kuribo]

not sure, im kinda waiting for the game to kick back up again. ill iso hoppster tomorrow if you dont make a case

what the fuck is this lurkshit? how the fuck is this guy still alive? "i won't provide content, so i might read unless someone makes a case for me" STOP FUCKING AROUND AND HELP (SUPPOSEDLY) YOUR TOWN

Hoppster, don't get number of posts confused with content. Big difference. I agree Hoppster has not been scumhutning. There is a bunch of spam there. But I mean, who has been scumhunting, other than VE who just replaced in? Why did you pick Hoppster VE?

here we go, finally someone who gets some town points. hell, i'll even give you a couple points toward letting you bang my sister

p-Edit: YES THERE IS SOME SPAM (I GET BORED BY MYSELF IN THIS THREAD SINCE SO MANY PEOPLE ARE :HAPPYLURKING:)

eh. i like to spam threads too, but the difference is that i don't fucking pretend it's content.

Actually I had a town read on you until this post. All that comes afterwards is just crap and needless aggression. Do you think yelling at people aka caps-bombarding them will stop them from voting you? Also you're not superobvtown just because you posted some reasoning within the first 3 pages of the game - in a D1 which lasted around 24 hours? So please stop hiding behind your wall of caps and do something useful, you know, just like a "superobvtown-player" would do.

some more good stuff.

but the thing is, fluff by itself isn't scummy. fluff for the sake of appearing as content is scummy. (hint, Hopp does both)

the difference between you and kad is that you posted your crappy reason in ALL CAPS while kad just said what you were thinking.VOTE: hoppster

holy shit, rainman speaks.

too bad he's bussing his partner who just had an emotional breakdown

[kuribo]

I wasn't sure what I would get tbqh (Fate would scream at me I'm doing reactionfishing wrong, but idrc).

I thought interesting stuff would happen - kad self-voting I considered, I expected at least a few people to strongly defend kad, etc, and I was just going to analyse it once it was there. (But, yeah, Magikarp used Splah! Nothing happened.)

I assumed your lack of elaboration was just because you understood what I was doing (and with the QUICKLYNCH NAO I couldn't have asked for better reaction-testing-stuffz from you to work with in combination either. REAL shame everybody decided to not post).

you know god damn well you weren't fucking reaction fishing.

Holy shit this game is devoid of posts.

I find it hard to read aggressive players (read VisceraEyes and Hoppster [although I've got a stronger town read on the latter]), so I'm focusing on another couple of players at the moment.

Firstly, Eijolend (TwistedSpoon). Most of what I find scummy here is TwistedSpoon's earlier play, rather that Eijolend's (although it's incredibly difficult to get a read on one post). Posts 87 and 89 are just him asking Hoppster what to do, and while Hopp was the only player really posting at that point, it's still "Oh I can't put forward an opinion of my own". Post 61 also feels off to me - pinkfloyd was on L-1 at day 3, TwistedSpoon says he's not sure he's scum, but leaves his vote on anyway (and, of course, kad hammers a few posts later).

Kad, kad, kad. That hammer. Half of my town read on Hoppster comes from his reaction to it, though, so it wasn't completely useless.
Still, I'd be completely up for a kad lynch.

redFF is weird, and he's been sheeping quite a bit. That said, nothing's jumped out to me as scummy.

Conman didn't really jump out at me at all, apart from him saying 'it's my first open game' in post 6, and not RVing until almost everybody else had. I've said I don't have a good read on VE, but honestly, people have actually been posting more since he came into the game. I'd rather lynch a lurker who I think's scum than a prolific poster who I think's scum.

Therefore, VOTE: Eijolend

Oh, and hi, Johhog!

Interesting. I myself am not very aggressive, being shy of using strong language. But why Eijo? His (one) post up to this point was at least decent.

[kuribo]

Hoppster is doing a lot of...AtE? If I'm using my terminology correctly. Dude. Stop trying to make a big deal about your contributions. Sure, maybe you've posted a bit more content than others, but face it. This game is a place void of activity and content.

Also, I may be wrong with what has been revealed here and all but doesn't town still not know the amount of scum there are? Why does Hoppster think there is 3 scum?

Do not see case of VE scum.

Johog better explain his reasoning because gut reads aren't cutting it for me.

This guy could win townie of the year for this bunch, since he's right about Hopp. But not about Johog, because, that would be fucking stupid.

And for the record I do not like kad. But he is V/LA for the moment and not much can be done about him.

oh bullshit, you can explain why you don't like him, but i doubt this bunch would read it.

Add clumsy rolefishing to the cases against VisceraEyes and Sky.

Bigger post this evening.

how the fuck is that rolefishing, you god damn semen salesman?

3 scum is the assumed amount though, and I would much rather assume 3 scum than 2 scum.

i'll do you one better and tell you that i assume everyone is possibly scum to me until they're confirmed by the mod, dead, or mentioned in my role PM

Yeah I noticed that too - but I think reducing hoppster's case purely to OMGUS is a bit too easy an approach from your side. He at least makes cases, that should be addressed.

no he fucking doesn't!

ve is still town and hoppster is still scum, ill remember this when vis flips town so i can laugh in your face like this:

this guy may be a tool, but at least his scumdar is dead on


or he's hoppster's scum buddy


i'm betting on the latter

[kuribo]

sigh since i know a hoppster lynch is not happening today with this town and hoppsters dick is so far down johhog's throat all he can do is post image macros

VOTE: visceraeyes

we lynch hoppster tomorrow

unless ve is scum, then i dunno lol

and NOW we fucking come to the scummy part.

you JUST FUCKING SAID hoppster was scum and VE was town.

this post, this post RIGHT FUCKING HERE is bullshit of the HIGHEST FUCKING ORDER

blatant, gross fucking hopping onto the easiest wagon.

i'd bet my left fucking nut at this point that red is scum.

Why do you want to lynch town?

unless you think you've found some serious breadcrumb, you really need to get your head out of your ass. (especially since if you watch them lynch me today, scum's going to kill you tonight, but hey, what the fuck do i know right)

Also, you can't have speed lynches AND expect quality content and scumhunting. Might as well place my vote for now, Hoppster as scum is sounding better.
VOTE: Hoppster

this actually might be bussing scum

no, that's what you were doing earlier.

I definitely don't like redFF's fishing for a claim here - that was really bad. The dramatically compromising on a lynch target achieves nothing - we have frickin' 3-week-days!
UNVOTE:
VOTE: redFF

interesting, did you just distance? are you their partner? can't blame you, i'd back the fuck away from redscum too

In all fairness, red has been playing almost exclusively on a site that has 48 hour days. He's also pretty decent. I'm going to give him time before I commit a vote.

viscera, if you're reading this, even though i replaced you, you're a god damn idiot.

pretty decent?


WHEN IS HE GONNA FUCKING SHOW THAT HERE

i think hes scum, but ive put forward a case and all i got is lolbad and its pretty clear that this town won't lynch him today...

i'd rather lynch you, since you thought he was SO FUCKING TOWN before and now the winds change and "O SHIT SCUM"

UNVOTE: VOTE: redFFLikely scum with VisceraEyes. I'm not buying that Doctor claim at all, but it's probably better to wait until late-game/mass-claim situations to start whittling down the scum in the claimed PRs.

what he's really saying is "oh shit, i better kick red to the curb, and besides I can just kill VE tonight since no one can protect the doctor but if i advocate lynching it, they'll know i'm scummy mcfuckingscummerson"

[kuribo]

Hoppster, you're terrible. When this slot flips doctor, I hope town stops being retarded and actually kills ur ass. You're so obviously scum it's embarrassing.

Anyway, I'm done with this game....by which I mean I'm done with Hoppster. I've NEVER replaced out of a game, but this guy is fucking awful. GG scum.

Mod, please replace me.

For the record, I'm still doctor, and unless someone does something about Hoppster, town is still fucked.

Wait, what? You are ragequitting this game, because your top scum suspect doesn't believe you're town and other players don't agree with you? Sounds pretty standard for a game of mafia to me...

oh, don't you worry sunshine, once kuribo replaces in, the thread will become a carnival of lunacy

kuribo replaces VisceraEyes effective immediately.

OHHHH FUCK YEAH HE'S CAUGHT UP NOW LET THE GAMES BEGIN

[kuribo]

now i'm really not too bothered because your slot and redFF are linked together so we can lynch B tomorrow when A flips scum or vice-versaplus your slots are both ridiculously scummy independent of each other as wellwin/win

listen, jizz genius, you've foreshit your quota, bussing red at this point won't fucking help you now

[kuribo]

oh kuriboit would seem that the stupid is infectiousor perhaps you're rolefishing here as well by trying to get me to talk more about how I knew that VisceraEyes was rolefishing

so you're claiming semen salesman as your role?

[kuribo]

ummm wagon analysis on that wagon with that hammeris not fucking necessaryeven I can see that, and I'm developmentally disabled

hey, you're right, why bother looking at why town was fucking quicklynched and wasted a whole day?

[kuribo]

should i bus you instead then?i imagine your scumflip would probably help me a fair bit

you do know what happens to tardscum that tries to get me mislynched right, fucker?

i'll give you a fucking hint, only CuriousKarmaDog ever pulled it off.

all the rest:



you think you're fucking good enough to go where only one scum has gone before?

[kuribo]

oh, get off your fucking high horse, you already know you can just NK me tonight

[kuribo]

and your play has been pathetic

"O SHIT VISCERA EYES THINKS IM SCUM THAT MAKES HIM SCUM"

you should be so fucking embarrassed

hell, i'm embarrassed for you

[kuribo]

i'll give you a fucking hint, only CuriousKarmaDog ever pulled it off.

OK, I'll comment on the rest of it later.

I'd like to see that game please, do you have a link?

Ah, the glory of being conftown - I can ask that without it being incriminating.

http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6207

Two other games, but I don't count them as true mislynches:

http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8657 (fake claimed scum because fuck empking)

http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6287 (lynched five posts after replacing into a doomed slot that had two mafia factions and two town... and the other town thought my slot was scum)

[kuribo]

and btw CKD played a fucking masterful scumgame in that game where he got me mislynched

[kuribo]

Hey, Sky and kad, why don't you get your lazy fucking asses into this thread and stop letting dumbasses shit up what i presume you're going to claim is also your town

who the fuck is lanse veritas?

why the fuck does this guy only have one fucking post in the whole game?

[kuribo]

oh, Lanse is VLA until October of next year.

i really hope he meant November 9, otherwise it's going to be a really dicey endgame

[kuribo]

kad hasn't posted on the site at all since november 1. personally, i'd replace him with someone who likes to post alot

[kuribo]

Sky, come on, god dammit, come play Mafia with us

[kuribo]

I think kad's five days away from the site altogether is more urgently concerning

[kuribo]

Kuribo, why are you calling for kad to be replaced and not Lanse? True, they're both pathetic, but kad has at least said SOMETHING in relation to the game.

because at least Lanse said when he'd be back and didn't just disappear

[kuribo]

Why? Nobody has any read on Lanse - if he's not replaced and doesn't start posting, it's an incredibly easy ride for scum.

i agree with that, but god damn, if the mod agrees to let someone VLA until a certain period of time, they shouldnt be replaced until that time period is up

[kuribo]

i'll be damned, you're right

V/LA thurs-fri for camping, and leaving saturday back sunday morning for math contest

he should have been back yesterday morning

[kuribo]

well, today morning. technically yesterday but today since i havent been to bed. you know what i mean.

[kuribo]

let's take a look at what you posted literally just 30 minutes before that: In post 212, redFF wrote:ve is still town?????????Voting a town-read and forcing a claim... why?

hey, red, you son of a bitch, you never answered this, get your lazy ass in here and start fucking playing

[kuribo]

hiraki, i don't cut deals, i leave that to scum

you should be looking at hoppster anyway unless you already know his wincon

[kuribo]

oh, so you're still bussing hoppster, it's cool, i understand, we've all been there

[kuribo]

nevermind that your "explanation" is patently bullshit

[kuribo]

"Well, you see, I think he's town, but I'm gonna lynch him anyway so that I can take down hoppster."

no one with half a fucking brain would believe that, and if you actually thought anyone would, you need to PUT DOWN THE CRACKPIPE because obviously your tolerance isn't as high as you'd like and we fear you may OD

vote: redFF

[kuribo]

i was pissed off and frustrated. i have a town read on him and if he flipped town maybe i could get johhog/hiraki/the rest of town to listen to me and lynch hoppster.

"johhog/hiraki/the rest of town"

what makes you think hiraki's town?

why did you mention him specifically?

[kuribo]

it was an example of an active player i have a town read on who was attacking ve

that makes even less fucking sense


you and hoppster are bussing each other straight from the scum 101 fucking handbook


and you are bad at it, better than hopp maybe


but still bad


so very very bad

like, seriously, empking bad


like holy shit

[kuribo]

oh, and just in case i'm not learn, red:

you said you put VE at L-1 to try and get hoppster lynched


but that implies that you already know VE's alignment with the expectation that VE would flip town

[kuribo]

yeah i thought ve would flip town. that's what a town read is

but... but... you put him at L-1...

trying to get someone else lynched


this makes as much sense as an oral bowel movement

[kuribo]

Kuribo, what's your read on kad?

"He's probably town, oh well!" is scummy as fuck.

other than two votes and his VLA, that's pretty much all he's posted, so to answer your question "scummy as fuck."


and anyone that didn't even bother calling him out on that bullshit doesn't look so hot either

[kuribo]

That's pretty much the main reason I think he's scum - if town pulled bullshit like that, scum would be all over them the next day.

I might almost agree with you, except the next three pages were pretty much Hoppster talking to himself followed by everyone forgetting kad ever said it

[kuribo]

as an aside, lobbing softball questions about it would have been a great way to distance themselves from him

[kuribo]

Do you also think redFF's scummy as fuck, or scummier than fuck?

redFF is so fucking scummy, i'd bet my left nut that he's scum

and i take betting my nuts very seriously

[kuribo]

well, first of all, i fearlessly predict that after my death, everyone goes back to lurking. but at least i brought my carnival of lunacy to this thread for just a short time, and if i lynch me a fucking scum like i think i have, fuck it, i'll call that a win in my book.

other thing to keep in mind when i do this is that i'm always paranoid as fuck when i play mafia and generally assume everyone to be scum until they're dead, mod-confirmed, or role confirmed by myself

going down the list as it appears in the OP:

kuribo- this guy is town as fuck, and damned sexy. i'd let him fuck my sister if it weren't incest.

Hikari- I just finished up a game with Hikariscum, he did the whole fakerage bit during that game, so i could see him being scum here after the exchange with Sky

Johhog- town, duh

LanseVeritas- should have been replaced, but I can't get a read on a slot that has only posted once to announce his VLA.

kad- useless to this fucking town, just like lanse. leaning scum here, and his buddies gave him a pass on a smug-ass, smarmy-ass tardstatement at the end of Day 1.

Hoppster- read his early interactions with red. if red flips scum, and i die tonight, you sons of bitches better fucking look into Hoppster, since he's fond of pushing wagons on town

Skenvoy- Was unsure at first, but god damn, son, i like the cut of your jib the last few pages, so you're probably town.

Sky- I have an iffy-ish town read on Sky, but if red flips scum, this is another person to watch--- he thought red was scum, and wouldn't vote him, which is fucking bullshit. if it weren't for that one nagging fucking thing, and if i wasn't so sure about red, i'd say Sky is my second strongest town read.

redFF- i swear to fucking god, you idiots better lynch this obvscum. his lynch will be the key to blowing this game out of the fucking water, mark my words

Eijoland- Townish read on his predecessor, and Eijo rightly called Hoppster out on his bullshit play, so I'm leaning town.

Of course, alot of my reads also involve peoples' interactions with Hoppster. which is his own god damn fault for making himself the center of attention. that's my fucking job! (kidding, but if you can't handle the heat, you shouldn't dominate the thread and then go lurkerville like you have)

so to reiterate: redFF almost certainly scum, Hoppster probably scum, if there's a third under this setup and it's not Sky, you guys are on your fucking own because i'll be long dead by then

[kuribo]

hold the fuck up, nobody reply to red's post yet

[kuribo]

bah disregard that, i suck cocks. god damn random setups

[kuribo]

i don't believe his claim for one god damn second, but i don't believe in lynching the uncounterclaimed, either.

Unvote

Okay, in the fucking meantime

red, here's how this shit works: you claim vig, the town directs your shots. period. you don't shoot the person the town wants you to shoot, you fucking die tomorrow, no ifs ands or buts

and you fuckers better hold him to that shit, too. it's pretty fucking obvious who i'll be protecting tonight, so there's not a god damn thing he can say tomorrow if he doesn't take the shot the town wants.

so now we need to figure out who the fuck we're gonna lynch and who we want this dumbass to shoot

[kuribo]

Hmm.

Do I honestly trust Redff with a gun...

nah

it doesn't fucking matter if we trust him with a gun

he doesn't take the shot we want, he fucking dies

period

end of fucking story.

[kuribo]

Especially after that rage comment!

oh please, do you know how fucking hard i laughed when i replaced into that UPick and saw this:

ARE YOU HAPPY NOW? YOU GET RAGE CONTENT.NOT NICE CONTENT. RAGE CONTENT.GET READY FOR THIS SHIT FROM NOW ON FOR COMPLAINING ALL THE FUCKING TIME BITCHES.HIRAKI RAGE IS BACK. AND IT'S NOT LEAVING.

and that's bad coming from me because i was GOD DAMN FUCKING TONY HAWK in that game

[kuribo]

The mafia have 2 goons and a roleblocker.

we don't know that's what they have, because there are a handful of scenarios that also allow for the serial killer that we know about

[kuribo]

why do you find it unlikely that they have a godfather?

[kuribo]

?? According to http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=C9%2B%2B

Scum Roles

TTTTTTT = Goon + Godfather, Serial Killer (Investigation Immune OR 1-Shot Bulletproof)

TTTTTT = Goon + Godfather

TTTTT = Goon + Godfather, Serial Killer (Investigation Immune OR 1-Shot Bulletproof)

TTTT = 2 Goons + Roleblocker

TTT = 2 Goons + Roleblocker, Serial Killer (Investigation Immune OR 1-Shot Bulletproof)

TT = Goon + Roleblocker + Godfather

T = Goon + Roleblocker + Godfather, Serial Killer (Investigation Immune OR 1-Shot Bulletproof)

0 Ts = Goon + Roleblocker + Godfather

We have an innocent child, so it's not number 1.
I find number 2 unlikely.
In numbers 3 and 4, there's a roleblocker.

But...

if, for the sake of argument, red is telling the truth, and i know i'm telling the truth, then the rolls must be at the very least, MVD with a maximum of 4 Ts. Since one M is Innocent child, one D is doctor. Five T's, with red lying does allow for the serial killer, but only TTT and T allow for it otherwise.

you're right, they almost certainly have a roleblocker.

[kuribo]

if that's the case, then so far, the only thing we've really succeeded at is outting a bunch of them on day 2


fucking great

[kuribo]

The most likely option, in my opinion, is that there are 4 town power roles, and the mafia have 2 goons and a roleblocker. Although option 4 is still possible (and, technically, option 2 is), number 3 seems the most likely. So, there's almost certainly one or two more power roles out there.

oh, and don't forget there were two deaths last night, although i assume the SK killed the town, and the scum killed the SK

[kuribo]

no, we absofuckinglutely do not want a massclaim right now

[kuribo]

VE claimed too early.

what?

he was at fucking L-1

would you have preferred him to claim after his lynch?

for fuck's sake.

[kuribo]

Hoppster- though he was scum. Nothing suggests he is town. Play has been god awful. But could just be inexperienced.

http://www.mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Hoppster

also, hoppster's played in at least 20 games

[kuribo]

I do suppose you have a point about the wagons. I tell ya what, you help me figure out who the scum are, and I'll give you somma dat sweet town cred

[kuribo]

oh by the way: it suddenly occurs to me that we shouldn't direct red's shot tonight.

if they have a roleblocker, and they know he's gunning for one of them, they can block him to discredit me, and kill me to get to our conftown.

otherwise, they have to block me and kill my protect target (hint: I'm not saying who it is) and let reds shot go off.

suck it, scum, lets see you gey a successful night now, bitches. You take mt pawn, I take your bishop. You take my rook, I take your queen. You pit me in checkmate, I buy park place, becauseive been playing monopoly the whole time.

[kuribo]

I don't really believe redFF's claim, but I'm ok with testing his vig-ability on kad, as most seem to desire that.

I'm unsure about kuribo - while I wasn't happy with VE, I like kuribo's posts and trying to keep the game active gets him some town points, although that could just be his playstyle.

Hiraki is giving me headache lately. While his play style doesn't really seem all that convincing, what he posts is good.

I didn't notice sky as very scummy until now, but people keep making cases on him I took the time to iso him. What comes to mind is his awkward behavior, concerning the Hoppster wagon, and I see where you see his scumminess.

Eijolend- something feels wrong about this guy. Leaning scum. Seems to be hopping new wagons. Content is little.

Could you explain that wagon hopping part? I took a stance between Hoppster and VE, the two most discussed people at that time and I was the first to vote redFF, so if anything the others hopped my wagon, right?

wait, what the fuck is this? Sky was the one that said you were wagon hopping.

[kuribo]

Goddamnit, screw this shit.

VOTE: kad2361 (or his replacement)

Although I do feel sorry for them.

what the fuck is this shit? Lurker lynch on D2? Do you even think he's scum?

and sky, dude, your shit gets worse by the day

also, our cute little conftown needs to come the fuck back and stop riding the lazytrain to a town loss

I'll be god damned if I'm gonna lose this fucking game because you shitheads went lurkvile.

[kuribo]

or both you (red) and hoppster are bussing sky

you heard THAT here first

[kuribo]

Out of interest, kuribo, have you seen VisceraEyes' scumslips that basically confirm me as town if/when you flip scum? (Just wondering.)

Well, no, because you're full of shit and scum.

But i'm trying to lynch your buddies. Don't worry, you'll get your chance at me tonight.

[kuribo]

and btw, major scum points on hopp for thinking he can be confirmed town that way


especially when I FUCKING FLIP DOCTOR

just nk me you fuck

[kuribo]

it gets you scumpoints for assuming that anything makes you "conftown"

[kuribo]

But really town would have to be superterrible to think my attacks on VE were bussing

well, no, that's your attacks on Red / Sky


your attacks on VE are ridiculous OMGUS because he caught you at being scum

[kuribo]

just like you think you should get fucking town points for a BULLFUCKINGSHIT case on PAGE TWO

that led to the FUCKING QUICKLYNCH


of FUCKING TOWN


how the FUCK DOES YOUR STUPID ASS THINK that you should be riding the fucking town points train by being the "only person that made a case"

[kuribo]

except they're not scumslips, and you're scum for trying to make them such

and doubly so for trying to make it look as if i could answer for the actions of someone who clearly wanted to hunt you down and strangle you in real life

[kuribo]

you're a fucking idiot

you know god damn well i can't explain something said by another fucking person


you sack of shit

[kuribo]

by the way, if hopp had really thought I was scum, he'd have told red to vig me instead of lololollurkervig

[kuribo]

unless I'm right, and red / hopp / sky are the scumteam, and have some NK shenanigans planned to make red "conftown" as hopp says

[kuribo]

Goddamn coercion

SO

WHO I NEED TO VOTE TO GET THIS LURKFEST MOVIN?

FUCK YES

[kuribo]

Goddamn coercion

SO

WHO I NEED TO VOTE TO GET THIS LURKFEST MOVIN?

read hoppster's iso and we can make fun of him together

[kuribo]

Looking back there's not much I would say about Hoppster, Viscera and red that hasn't already been said from both the for- and against- sides. Would you prefer to read what's been said already or shall I just skip to a few specific people of the town's choice?

I think you should say whatever the fuck is on your lurky-ass mind about Hoppster, VE, Red, and every fucking else too.

[kuribo]

Im laughing at Hoppster's posts already

but I don't think he's scum man

I dunno, I have a hard time believing town could post such bullshit on such a consistent basis

"Look at me, I'm obvtown because I posted a case on day 1 that got town quicklynched in 30 posts!"

[kuribo]

Town do not make posts where they show they know person X is town yet attack him. Scum clearly do.You claim you are town: hence there must be an innocent explanation for VE's scumslips if you are not a lying scumbag.You claim you can't see into his head or whatever - this is somebody who is guaranteed to the same fucking alignment and role as you. However, when I attack anybody (APART FROM YOU), even though you shouldn't know my alignment or role, suddenly you say you can see into my head and I am obvbussing, ofc.

jesus fucking christ, you shit-eating assmaster


this post is so fucking bad, i don't even know where to start

you're a god damn moron if you think i can explain why VisceraEyes said anything. and you're fucking scum for expecting me to be able to. period.

let's be clear, the only fucking reason you don't try to lynch me today is because 1) you know you'd look scummy as diarrhea if you tried to lynch a fucking uncounterclaimed doc, and 2) you're not fucking good enough to lynch me

[kuribo]

"an innocent explanation for VE's scumslips." as if i can read his fucking mind. you fucking idiot.

i still think fate's wrong about you being town and i know god damn well you're wrong about VE "scumslipping," because he wasn't fucking scum

you fucking push case after retarded fucking case, and you sit there all smug and shit and you take advantage of the fact that this town is filled with lurkers and idiots so that you can push mislynch after fucking mislynch

i am not fucking standing for it, NOT ONE FUCKING SECOND LONGER.

You and me, shithead, 1v1. you're so god damn confident that i'm scum, you shouldn't have a fucking problem with it, you idiot. I don't even fucking generally believe in 1v1, but fuck you. i'll make a fucking exception for your dumb ass.

Vote: Hoppster

BRING IT YOU FUCK

[kuribo]

oh, and BY THE FUCKING WAY

i don't even give a damn if i get mislynched!

i haven't been mislynched in two fucking years, and i don't really give a fuck if hoppster sits there all smug and gets me lynched off. as long as you dumbfucks lynch his smug clownass tomorrow after i fucking flip doc.

[kuribo]

fate, hmmm. Usually it's me replacing into a game where you're in a 1v1 and me talking you down. I find this funny.

hopp, if you really thought I was scum, then you'd be all about a 1v1 since you'd think you were lynching me as scum. But who am I to get in the way of you bussing sky for town cred?

[kuribo]

jesus fucking christ, you lazy fuck

[kuribo]

if that wasn't the most shameless and ridiculous prod dodge i've ever fucking seen...

i mean holy shit

[kuribo]

hell, we've waited three weeks for you to pop your head in and vomit idiocy all over the thread

what's one more day?

[kuribo]

Sorry, should have been clearer. I've been reading along all the time, but I simply don't understand this game. I don't know if I can blame my English for this one or if the game is just very confusing, but the result is the same - I don't understand anything of the last 3 pages or so.

Ah you mean, if there is a deeper meaning between the posts Kuribo and Hoppster shouting at each other? If there is, I missed it too

he's an asshole, i'm an asshole, he's scum and i'm town

pretty damn simple if you ask me

[kuribo]

so it's not like your post actually means anything of significance. I

and also, "lolololol kuribo called me inactive but everyone knows this and also he cusses alot so we can just disregard that lolololol"




WRONG


LOOK HOW WRONG YOU ARE

[kuribo]

kuribo seamlessly continued the quarrel VE had with Hoppster.

anyone who's played a game where i've replaced in, will tell you that i have no problem pointing out where my predecessor was an idiot, or scummy, or flat-out wrong in their reads

in this case, however, i think VE had his read of hoppster dead-on.

i'm not just going to say, "oh, yeah, he's town," just because my predecessor thought he was scum, nor would i do the reverse

[kuribo]

Actually, it was more along the lines of "You're naturally biased against me so I'm not going to fight against that" and "Stop being so pointlessly inflammatory." Considering how you just responded it's more than glaringly obvious that I'm correct on both accounts.

Of course I'm biased against you, I hate when people sign up for a game and don't bother playing.

What makes you think my "inflammatory" language is pointless? Hell, what makes you think it's me trying to be inflammatory?

[kuribo]

VE's reads in general

hold up man, let's not say things we can't take back

I said I agreed with him about Hoppster, not his reads in general. i don't acutally think Hiraki was "intentionally trolling" VE. I god damn well disagree with him that redFF is by any stretch a decent player. VE obviously thought Sky was scum, I thought Sky was mostly town until recently, as I pointed out in #381. And #402 really fucking sets my nerves on edge about Sky, doubly so with him defending Hoppster by speculating that Hopps may be new to the game when a simple fucking wiki check would show otherwise.

If Sky flips scum, I guarangoddamntee you that Hopps is scum, because of all this, and because of Hopp's vote on him. Look at this shit! He wants to be on Sky's wagon so fucking bad, even though he claims to think I'm scum. You know why? Because he feels like he needs the "towncred" that he thinks he'll get from bussing Sky, and he knows that he doesn't need to bother trying to get me lynched today because he'll just kill me tonight. And if some crazed fuckery happens that leaves me alive, he thinks he can parlay Sky's scumflip into some sweet town cred and get me lynched first in that 1v1 tomorrow.

Think about it. If Hoppster thinks I'm scum, there's NO fucking reason for him not to be voting me. NONE. He refuses to move his vote off Sky, onto me, because he says he thinks he's "caught scum." But... why not be voting me if he's so god damn sure he's "caught scum?" (Hint: He's bussing Sky, and it looks scummy as shit to vote for a claimed doc)

[kuribo]

-shrug- Fine, I stand corrected, VEs reads on Hoppster. And Sky. Because now you think he's scum. no?

Are you illiterate? When I replaced in, I was leaning Sky-town, and a handful of posts since that time have made me think otherwise.

VE wasn't here when those posts were made, so it's pretty god damned disingenuous to act as if I'm parroting his read of Sky. Unless you think I said, "Oh! Shit! VE though Sky was scum, I screwed up, better go rectify THAT!"




wait, here's another one:

[kuribo]

I would have not been V/LA if I had not had more important things to do and I've made that clear. It's rather meaningless to hold that sort of grudge.

It's not holding a grudge. You keep up this sort of idiocy, I'm going to run out of !

You went VLA, fine, whatever whatever. But your content since coming back, up until what? The last 2 hours? Has been useless. Three weeks and two days, and you don't understand why anyone would be annoyed with that? Really? REALLY?

[kuribo]

ugh god, see what you made me do? made me call you an idiot on your birthday


thanks for that

[kuribo]

Heyyyy it's fateeeeeee

get your lazy ass back here

are you going to bother contributing at all?

[kuribo]

quick Sky mislynch

fate, this guy's stealing your bit

[kuribo]

Sky seems incredibly indifferent to having 4 votes. Maybe some more will help.

I'm already voting his partner, though.

[kuribo]

other than the fact that my opinion of Sky's alignment rests partly on your scumflip

and besides, your "fantastic reason" is that you want town cred by bussing your partner, and watching you ride the Skybus to a scum win would mess up my win condition

[kuribo]

I'm sick of this day. Let's get more content from Sky.

And you're happy with the amount of content you've gotten from Lanse?

[kuribo]

really?

that's all you fucking have to add?


for christ's sake, man, at least pretend like you want to play mafia with us

[kuribo]

I love how Hoppster's veneer of smugness has all but faded once better players came into the game.

[kuribo]

i have personality defects; i'm intimidated by join date

man, i must be like andre the fucking giant to you

[kuribo]

also you might start seeing random 1 word posts in the thread so i don't forget to post for 2 days and get force replaced lol.

jesus fucking christ, man

[kuribo]

You know what? Fuck this lurker bullshit.

Unvote

Vote: Sky

[kuribo]

Please kill/vig me tonight so I don't have to deal with this gameI'm obv town/scum so its a good shot

Just for that I'm going to doc protect you. :p

[kuribo]

Please kill/vig me tonight so I don't have to deal with this gameI'm obv town/scum so its a good shot

Just for that I'm going to doc protect you. :p

you're no better than fate then, keeping me alive when it'd be so much easier dead...

Curse you all.

if it makes you feel better, i can't promise you that i'll protect you tonight

i'm not saying who i'm going to protect, and i havent breadcrumbed it because i don't know yet myself.

i need the scum not to pick up on what i'm going to do in case Red really is a vig and in case they have a roleblocker

[kuribo]

wait have you really claimed doctor or something

we should have a list of claims for a scummer on the go

VisceraEyes claimed doctor several times before I replaced in

Then when redFF hit L-1 he claimed one-shot vig

[kuribo]

ie, VE my predecessor truthfully claimed doc and ragequit after hoppster kept poking him. Then i replaced in and hoppster stopped being all fucking smug

then redFF played like a moron and got run up to L-1, redFF claimed one-shot vig

[kuribo]

Oh! and as mentioned in the first post, the mod has confirmed Johhog as an Innocent Child

[kuribo]

(and also that's who VE doc protected on N1, the innocent child)

[kuribo]

yeah but he's also lurky and useless


and besides, we also figure scum probably have a roleblocker

[kuribo]

Johhog has been riding his confirmed-town status to lurkerville all game, only popping his head in to be an idiot from time to time, when he even bothers to post at all

[kuribo]

what this mostly means is that if scum wants confirmed town to die tomorrow night, they have to kill me tonight. and since i'm already out as doc, i can't save myself anyway.

[kuribo]

oh, that reminds me

just in case i die tonight, red, i really dig the gaben avatar

[kuribo]

hahahahahahaha

you stupid scum fucks


Johhog- confirmed
RedFF- confirmed
Me- confirmed

sorry, Fate, I'd have protected you, but you begged me not to. Protected Johhog last night. It was pretty much a coin flip as to which one I thought scum would target, and since Fate asked not to be protected...

Red, nice fucking shot.

and GOD DAMN I WAS RIGHT ABOUT HOPPSTER AND SKY BUSSING ONE ANOTHER

FEAR ME, MOTHERFUCKERS, the bitch is fucking BACK



now, then, you sorry sons of bitches, which one of you idiots is Last Scum Standing? And why the fuck shouldn't Johhog, Red, and me form a god damn VOLTRON ALLIANCE to fuck up each and everyone of you dipshits in turn? you scum moron. you actually went after FATE instead of me? His heart obviously wasn't in it, but you already knew I had hammered Sky, and you knew that I wanted Hoppster dead too. You fucking idiot. Did you really think that Fate was more of a threat than me? He didn't have to fucking die, you dumbass! Did you really think that Red was gonna shoot anybody BUT Hoppster?!


oh, it's on now, motherfucker. my nipples are hard, my hand's in my pants and i'm ready to put this fucking game on ice. goddamn, seeing hoppster and sky both flip scum feels so fucking good I SHOULD HAVE HAD TO FUCKING PAY MONEY FOR THAT FEELING

so let's get this fucking show on the road, BECAUSE I GOT ALOT OF SHITTY LYLO PLAY TO MAKE UP FOR. You killed Fate, you kept the uncounterclaimed doc in the fucking game. You idiot.

You fucked with the wrong bull this time!

[kuribo]

hmmmm

Skenvoy was the one that brought up the possibility of there being a roleblocker. There's no god damn way scum does that knowing Sky would flip RB if he's lynched. Skenvoy, help the rest of us lynch scum!

Hiraki, I don't see him arguing with Sky as much if they were scumbuddies. I could be wrong, this could be all MEGADISTANCING, but i doubt it. Just as easy for Sky not to call Hiraki a troll. and for Hiraki to ignore it and not draw attention to themselves.

So... Lanse? Or Eijo? Frankly, Lanse is as useless as tits on a bull, but maybe there's something in Eijo that would sway me.

[kuribo]

sorry it felt like you were asking not to be protected

Please kill/vig me tonight so I don't have to deal with this gameI'm obv town/scum so its a good shot

Just for that I'm going to doc protect you. :p

you're no better than fate then, keeping me alive when it'd be so much easier dead...

Curse you all.

lol just protect him then he's confirmed town

anyway, i didn't actually think they'd be stupid enough to kill you Sorry, man. Who the fuck doesn't kill an uncounterclaimed doc? Best I can think is they thought Hoppster would live the night and get me mislynched with his stupid "lol kuribo and sky are bussing" shit

[kuribo]

...really?

I didn't say ANYFFUCKINTHING

although i also understand that your bah post probably refers more to the fact that they had no god damn reason to kill you (other than the FEAR)

[kuribo]

ONCE AGAIN I AM LEFT TO AVENGE FATE'S DEATH

[kuribo]

see, Skenvoy made me nervous during the night phase, but something just tells me he wouldn't have assumed a roleblocker if he knew he had one. i'm not assuming he's town-for-sure, or letting him fuck my sister, but there are definitely better places for a noose right now

[kuribo]

actually, fate's death looks the worst on hiraki

hiraki-scum fucking fears fatetown

[kuribo]

Also we might want to mass claim now, right?

Actually, looking at the randomization of the setup, we know this is what we have:

At least 1 Doc
1 1-shot Vig
1 Innocent Child
1 Serial Killer
1 Scum Roleblocker

The only setup that allows for a serial killer and a scum roleblocker is "TTT"

a 1-shot vig is a single V, giving us TTTV
A doc is a single D, giving us TTTVD, that's five rolls out of seven.
An innocent child is a single M, giving us TTTVDM. With the last roll unaccounted for.

Under this setup, there is no chance for a godfather. There is also no chance for a 1-shot vig and a regular vig (VVV)

It's definitely time for massclaim, because under the setup, we ABSOLUTELY HAVE a 1-shot power role left unclaimed.

[kuribo]

sounds good to me, he's the most useless of the bunch anyway

[kuribo]

high-five, gaben

[kuribo]

[kuribo]

that's gaben swimming in piles of steam money

[kuribo]

come on, Lanse, get your sorry ass in here and tell us what your role is


we won't hurt you


we're just going to string you up by your fucking neck if you give us the wrong answer

[kuribo]

Especially considering I'm one-shot cop.

VOTE: LanseVeritas

No result on Lanse, night 1.

this here is the correct answer, by the way. under the setup, there can only be a 1-shot doc, 1-shot cop, or town roleblocker left

Either Sky roleblocked you N1 or Lanse is town.

Either way, if he flips town, red dies tomorrow.

[kuribo]

Actually, now that I think about it, considering that I sent my shot in on the night/day border and timezones are screwy I'm not sure if I might have missed it and I still have my shot. Either way I sent Hoppster as a target.

also, this is 100% bullshit because Hoppster is dead. the only possible way for Hoppster to be dead is for him to have been vigged. the ONLY way.

if i'm a 1-shot vig and I send in my target, and my target is dead the next morning, I already know for a fact I don't have a shot left.

[kuribo]

oh, and of course there's the possibility under the setup of a vig + a 1-shot vig

but since they both claimed 1-shot, that's null

[kuribo]

oh, and of course there's the possibility under the setup of a vig + a 1-shot vig

but since they both claimed 1-shot, that's null

actually, that's wrong. there can't be a 1-shot vig and a vig, that would be VVV

there can only be a vig or a 1-shot vig. and since we have a claimed 1-shot cop, it's got to be a single 1-shot vig. so yeah, one of these "vigs" is scum.

Either the cop got roleblocked or red is scum, but these are the only two possible outcomes. And I'm almost certainly dead tonight if we kill the wrong vig, so make god damn sure you're paying attention.

Dunno if he's lynched yet, but Lanse's explanation of what he's been up to at night seems like abject bullshit.

Vote: Lanse

[kuribo]

Btw, in case Lanse flips town and I'm dead tomorrow

you won't be, I'll protect you just like I have been all along

Last Scum Standing needs to off me to get you since their RB is dead

[kuribo]

LV why didn't you shoot me last night as i should be confirmed scum from your perspective?

this right here would be the slam dunk in the case


a 1-shot vig would shoot red instead of counterclaiming, because a vanilla townie wouldn't fakeclaim 1-shot vig.

the only thing that leans toward red being scum instead of lanse is red's behavior. and the fact that red would be just as likely to scumkill fate. but i think Hoppster made the choice to kill Fate. Hoppster fears Fate. Me, not so much.

I think he figured red would mis-kill town, and that he'd take out Fate so that he could continue his retarded accusation toward me about me and Sky "bussing" one another. (when really it was him, as I pointed out) Either way, Hoppster didn't expect to die, but he figured townFate had a better chance of catching him than a guy who replaced VisceraEyes.

in fact, killing Fate was a MONUMENTAL fuckup on his part. Keeping Fate alive would have enabled him to plant doubt in peoples' heads as to Fate's alignment--- especially if they had killed me last night like they should have. But, then again, Fate's just about the only person who's harder to mislynch than I am

[kuribo]

hey, hoppster, btw



you don't get to call VisceraEyes' play "really really bad" when your plan was to try and paint an uncounter-claimed doc as godfather. i don't think this town was THAT stupid.



and what did I tell you about scum that tries to get a mislynch on me?

you do know what happens to tardscum that tries to get me mislynched right, fucker?

i'll give you a fucking hint, only CuriousKarmaDog ever pulled it off.

all the rest:



you think you're fucking good enough to go where only one scum has gone before?

[kuribo]

btw, obvious busses were obvious

or both you (red) and hoppster are bussing sky

you heard THAT here first

But really town would have to be superterrible to think my attacks on VE were bussing

well, no, that's your attacks on Red / Sky


your attacks on VE are ridiculous OMGUS because he caught you at being scum

unless I'm right, and red / hopp / sky are the scumteam, and have some NK shenanigans planned to make red "conftown" as hopp says

see, and yet people think I'm just some raging asshole

[kuribo]

Woulda been different if SV had selected NK immunity instead of Investigation Immunity, too.

[kuribo]

With the Mafia Roleblocker dead, by claiming Cop I can force a follow-the-cop scenario: you protect me every single night and I claim an innocent the next day on various people as is logical from a town POV, claiming an innocent on you if necessary. If I have to investigate redFF then I would bus him and claim a guilty, but ideally I'd be avoiding claiming an innocent on redff.

except you were my biggest scumread, I protect Johhog anyway, and reveal that fact to you the next morning when you try to explain why you're still alive

[kuribo]

No problems with the Modding, thought it was stylish. In future, when the scumteam is down to one last member maybe you should consider letting him talk to himself in the QT at all times because it makes a more entertaining QT for endgame.

i talk to myself when i send in my night actions, using the mod PM as a diary room

[kuribo]

With the Mafia Roleblocker dead, by claiming Cop I can force a follow-the-cop scenario: you protect me every single night and I claim an innocent the next day on various people as is logical from a town POV, claiming an innocent on you if necessary. If I have to investigate redFF then I would bus him and claim a guilty, but ideally I'd be avoiding claiming an innocent on redff.

except you were my biggest scumread, I protect Johhog anyway, and reveal that fact to you the next morning when you try to explain why you're still alive

What?

Obviously I don't need to convince YOU that you're the Godfather.

And in the hypothetical alternate reality where I am of unknown alignment but claiming Cop and you are town Doc who doesn't protect me, me still being alive doesn't mean I'm scum at all. If I were town then scum might have thought that you'd be protecting me and thus leave me alive. It still works.

your problem is you thought you ran this fucking town and had them eating out of your hand

[kuribo]

VE, i've said it before and I'll say it again:

being good town doesn't just mean saying "Oh, this guy this guy and this guy are scum"

good town gets that scum lynched

[kuribo]

point taken

[kuribo]

you can say VE's play was bad all you want, but part of the reason i figured you out was your interaction with him


even if he didn't intend it, he layed a pretty good trap

[kuribo]

although mostly it was that patently retarded "I'M SO TOWN BECAUSE I MADE THE ONLY CASE ON DAY 1"


that was so ridiculous, i'm ashamed that it took me coming into the game for anyone to call you on it

[kuribo]

don't feel bad, i have to constantly curse and be a complete jerk to people or else they think i'm playing against my town meta

[kuribo]

nevermind the fact that i haven't been scum since 2009, there's probably no one that even remembers how i play as scum!


(hint, i get lynched for lurking as scum)

[kuribo]

if you guys fight to the death, can i be the referee

[kuribo]

btw, Lanse deserves alot of credit for basically doing fuck-all the entire game, being VLA the whole time, and then coming out of fucking nowhere to kill Hoppster and counter-claim redFF

[kuribo]

If you think you can handle the swings kuribo.

oh please, i worked for 8 years on a dementia unit


you haven't seen shit until you're breaking up a fight between two 90 year old alzheimer's patients who are fighting over a dollbaby and one of them tries to take a 25-pound purse upside your head while the other is clawing your arm

[kuribo]

yeah hoppster, i may talk to people like they're dirt when i'm playing mafia, but at least i make nice-nice after the game

[kuribo]

I would have caught hoppster, and I did!

[kuribo]

well i have no idea how that happened.

also, i laughed so hard at this