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Everyone knows that DeathSauce is only deadly to scum!HurriKaty wrote:Vote: Deathsaucebecause he's DeathSauce. And Death Sauce sounds kinda deadly.
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I disagree that there is nothing scummy about Rampage. His "joky" behavior on page one and two is something I have seen from scum, and seen referenced in other games.
Rampage and Miztef seem to be backing each other up an awful lot.
In post 47 Rampage quotes Miztef (and Hurrikaty) and simply says "QFT".
Post 52 Miztef writes " There is nothing about Rampage that is very scummy, so stop trying to make a bandwagon on him. ok? ok." I don't like this statement at all.
Post 56 Rampage says "I like DeathSauce and Miztef, but don't trust Snichkin"
Post 58 Rampage says to ryan "That's because you and Miztef summed things up pretty well"
I also don't like that they are asking for lists of how you feel about other players. That is a tactic used by scum to help them decide who to NK.
Since my vote on A.B.R was random, I willunvote.
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I follow VanDamien's line of thinking perfectly clearly.
Contrast these two statements from you:
Statement 1 at 5:30pm :
Statement 2 at 5:42 pmExpect (the) mafia allies to put their vote and hammer this dude.(Snichkin)
You seem to be predicting your own scummy vote.vote: Snichkin
vote:Albert B. Rampagefor being the scummiest player I have ever seen. Every single post he makes just makes my spidey sense go into 4 alarm mode.Show[b]pickemgenius[/b] "DEEEEATTTTTTHSAUCE
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Good to see you back in the game Paradoxombie! Might we see a little more in depth analysis?
So far you've posted four times, all one sentence. That is pretty much the definition of lurking.Show[b]pickemgenius[/b] "DEEEEATTTTTTHSAUCE
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Care to explain the "worse vibes" comment in further detail? I wouldn't mind seeing some reasoning behind votes at this point. I think we are past the random stage.Show[b]pickemgenius[/b] "DEEEEATTTTTTHSAUCE
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Thanks ABR, but no one was asking you to claim, and you have all of two votes on you. Nice threat there at the end, too.
I believe that sets a record for scumtells in one paragraph:
Over-reaction to having TWO votes on you? - check!
Early claim? - check!
Vague sinister threats? - check!
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Number one: ryan, DO NOT let Albert persuade you into making or denying ANY CLAIM WHATSOEVER. All you do is provide more information to the scum, who already have more information than the town.
TopHat, I have re-read Hurrikaty's and ryan's posts and I don't really agree with your conclusions. Not that ryan isn't a bit suspicious, and I would like to see more participation from Hurrikaty.
So you were suspicious of Snichkin for trying to make a point, and now you are doing the same thing? Or is it possible that you are trying to camouflage your earlier mistakes by saying it was all "to prove a point"?Albert wrote:Oh, honestly I was just trying to break all the scum tells to make a point.-
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Act like scum, get lynched. That's the way the game is played. Laugh all you want, ABR, but even if by some chance you are town, once we are shed of you it makes it easier for us to track down scum.
Your posts contain no logic, no explanations, no understanding of the game. You throw out seemingly random comments supporting individual players, but don't back them up with any reasoning. That gets us nowhere.Show[b]pickemgenius[/b] "DEEEEATTTTTTHSAUCE
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Reading the link provided by ABR, it says nothing about "taking down" a person of his choice or the hammer vote. It says the bomb kills the first person that voted for him that day, which in this case would be me.
It's supposedly a "pro-town" role, but Albert has not been playing as a pro-town player. I don't see any reason to believe his claim, the role is uncommon, Albert is giving his role more power than it actually has in an attempt to frighten us from his lynch. If the claim is true, I am dead meat, but I'm willing to take the chance.Show[b]pickemgenius[/b] "DEEEEATTTTTTHSAUCE
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Also, after reading the link provided by our moderator I would like to call attention to this point:
Lawrencelot wrote: All I can say is that this game follows the normal game rules
"Psychopath" is in no way a standard role. I think that puts the lie to ABR's claim once and for all.Normal Game Rules wrote: A normal game does not have to have any other roles other than Mafia and Townies. If it includes other roles, they should mostly be considered standard, such as Cop, Doctor, Vigilante, Roleblocker, Mason, Traitor, Serial Killer.Show[b]pickemgenius[/b] "DEEEEATTTTTTHSAUCE
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Albert , you are correct. I did stop reading after the first mention of roles and did not see that next paragraph. However your role as quoted by you still doesn't conform to the role description in the wiki.
Miztef, you say that the person "the majority of us agree is scummy" should place the hammer vote. What if I think you are the second-scummiest player behind Albert? If the majority of us feel that way would you be willing to drop the hammer?Show[b]pickemgenius[/b] "DEEEEATTTTTTHSAUCE
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I'm also a one-shot killing role capable of killing the night after I die.
Which is it? You kill the same night that you are lynched or you kill the night after? You contradict yourself.Since I don't think that Ryan, Miztef or DeathSauce are scum, they will be safe tonight if you decide to lynch me.
This has added an unexpected wrinkle. For now I willunvote
I am torn on whether to vote for Snichkin or Stalling Champ for not participating. But Stalling Champ has slightly more content to his (few) posts.
Vote Snichkin
Mod, please prod Snichkin and Stalling Champ, and what is the status of darhken?Show[b]pickemgenius[/b] "DEEEEATTTTTTHSAUCE
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Miztef, please answer my question from post 172:
Miztef, you say that the person "the majority of us agree is scummy" should place the hammer vote. What if I think you are the second-scummiest player behind Albert? If the majority of us feel that way would you be willing to drop the hammer?Show[b]pickemgenius[/b] "DEEEEATTTTTTHSAUCE
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Here's my thinking on this so-called pro-town Psychopath roleas described by ABR. The only way it would work to the town's advantage is if no one knew about the role and the scum speed-lynched the Psychopath. The hammering scum would be dead and ABR could NK someone else he viewed as suspicious.
But now the role is known, scum probably aren't going to be willing to off themselves to hammer a player that has this strange ability. They are going to look for a way to twist the formerly"pro-town" Psychopath role to their own advantage.
Not that any of this means that I believe Albert's claim for one minute. I don't.
I also don't understand why everyone is so sure we have a Vig in this game. I am not nearly so positive and I will not follow any voting strategy that depends on a Vig NK.Show[b]pickemgenius[/b] "DEEEEATTTTTTHSAUCE
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I just re-read the entire thread, and I am going to shift my position on Albert 180°.
I think he's telling the truth.
All of his mysterious posts actually make sense when read with this new information in mind. He tried to obliquely refer to his role without giving it away. He was consistent. He put off claiming until it was absolutely necessary. I can't believe I'm saying it, but I really think that is his role.
With my fresh perspective, I am now quite suspicious of TopHat, but my vote will stay on lurkers for now.
MOD: Snichkin and StallingChamp are active in other games, I don't understand why you don't want to prod them.-
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I agree with this, that's how I see it too.To me, He is most likely his psychopath role, next most likely is an anti-town psychopath-like role, and next is scum.
Is anyone else in for slowing things down until we get a replacement for darhken and some response from our two lurkiest players?
We are going along at a good clip here, but without 100% participation it is going to be hard to do anything.-
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Here's my latest re-reading of the situation, in brief.
Albert's goal seems to be to make it to Day Two.
No explanation until day 2 for youif I'm wrong I won't even last until Day2.
also reference his bet with VanDamien which was engineered to get him to survive until Day Two.we can do as Miztef said and lynch me on Day 2
I'm not sure what the significance of surviving an extra day is, but it seems odd. The fact that Miztef seemed to have the same goal is possibly useful information.-
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Albert, I really despise your play style in this game.
I don't like being experimented on. You may not care if you win or lose, but it is apparent you wish to survive to Day Two. Therefore, you are wrong, weAlbert B. Rampage wrote: The funny thing is that you cannot punish me for a bad play, because I do not care whether I win or lose this game. It is an experiment.canpunish you for bad play, by denying you your wish.-
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Miztef wrote:Hurrikitty has said little to add to the contributions, but meh, I don't think she's lurking.I understand your reasoning behind voting katy, but I'm not jumping on that bandwagon yet.I do not agree with tophat's post. It is possible that ryan/hurrikaty are mafia, but your evidence does not "confirm" it.I severly dislike tophat's post about hurrikaty and you being mafiaI don't like hurrikaty's lack of posts, but I'm not gonna lynch her over it at this time at least.Hurrikaty is 'ok' in my books
Miztef, you spend anI dislike Hurrikaty's lurking, but I'm getting the feeling she will post content soon anyway, I don't feel there is a need to pressure her more at this time.awfullot of energy in defending Hurrikaty. Any particular reason for that?-
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Well, it looks like defending to me. And since Hurrikaty doesn't seem to see fit to defend herself, someone else leaping to the task strikes me as curious. In fact most of the time that someone tries to explain another player's actions, it makes a little 'ping' on my scumdar.
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@ryan: WHAT? Why the hell would Hurrikaty be replaced? She has said she is "RIGHT HERE" and has "posted more in the past few days".
I don't see how she is cleared even if she suddenly starts posting eleven paragraph PBPAs. It is apparent that she has been lurking AS A STRATEGY and now that strategy has failed. Only a complete fool would continue a behavior that has been called out and identified as anti-town.-
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We are using the same term differently. By "lurking" I don't mean "not posting".
Lurking by the other definition is to post just often enough to appear to be participating, without adding anything meaningful to the discussion.
This is anti-town behavior, as it gives no fresh perspective, no information for the town, and gives us no insight on her views on other players if she is NK'd.
For what reason do you not believe she is intentionally posting this way? You have no better insight than what she has posted in the thread. What makes you trust her intentions in a game based on mistrust?-
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Thanks, but I hope that would be obvious. What is your opinion of Miztef's apparent (to me) defense of Hurrikaty? Do you agree with StallingChamp's analysis that I took her quotes out of context?I also don't want to vote off a potential townie and drop our numbers and make it easier for the mafia to win-
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Oops, sorry about the disappearance, but it looks like I wasn't alone. Where did everyone go?
I can understand your suspicion ryan, but the fact is HurriKaty played anti-town and that's why I was after her. Obviously more than a few others agreed. I have not really had the time to do a proper re-read, as I've been trying to get ready for a big backpacking trip next week (see the Vacation thread), but I promise I will do so today.-
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OK, I am day late, and I wish I had something grand and earthshaking to say, but SO MANY of the pages of this thread are about ABR!
I felt that he was probably scum, and I was suspicious of those who seemed interested in letting him live until Day 2, because I didn't understand the motivation. It is obvious now why ABR was so determined to make any deal that would let him survive until Day 2, and I'm a little upset with myself for pointing out that that seemed to be his main goal, because it may have tipped off the scum about his true role.
Wouldn't it have to be 5:3:1? Obviously there are 2 Night killing entities. That's why I thought it was dangerous to come out with a vote immediately after night. If you are town then the 3:1 can quicklynch on Day 2. I'd rather have a few more pages of discussion before anyone votes.VanDamien wrote: We're probably either 6:3 or 5:3:1.-
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Try quoting that entire 3 paragraph post before you accuse me of not delivering any content in it.
I was clarifying a point made by another poster, why have you come out more than once against our trying to determine what forces migh be working against us?more worried about the ratio of town to mafia than actually finding mafia
Congratulations, you just made my scumdar screen.
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Also, could you be more of a hypocrite? How can you attack that post when you made THIS post, quoted in it's ENTIRETY, just yesterday!?
Sorry vollkan but I agree alot of these threads are on ABR, and it's hard to see anyone else except that crazy bastard (lol) I'll get a more detailed post as time permits this week-
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Hello, I have returned safely to civilization.
Interesting, there seems to be plenty of suspicion of me being bandied about, with no actual evidence of anything scummy.
Ryan keeps trying to harp on my lack of content, but I have been at least as active as the average player in this game. Ryan has a lot more posts, but I would argue actually contain less content. Ryan intentionally misquoted me just one page back by isolating ONE sentence from a 3 paragraph post and presenting it as the entirety of the post, while at the same time agreeing with my analysis.
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Also FOS at Van Damien for this:
with absolutely no supporting data or quotes.Paradoxombie and DeathSauce are scum
I am leaning toward a Ryan, Van Damien, Miztef scum group. There seems to be a common front from the three of them, agreeing with each other about who is scum without bothering to explain any of it, hoping that mere repetition will sway opinion.-
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I just noticed this. The two voting Para are Miztef and Van Damien! I have to say I was not expecting such a blatant slip-up and it only confirms my belief that the three of you are scum.ryan wrote: Para has a couple of votes on him from (IMO) pro town players.
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Paradoxombie 1 (VanDamien)
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ryan 1 (DeathSauce)
Not voting 5: TopHat, Paradoxombie, Trustgossip, StallingChamp, vollkan
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Yes, especially when they offer no evidence other than just constantly agreeing with each other that so-and-so is scum.ryan wrote: So three people think somebody is scum and so that means they have to be scum together?
As far as your asking me a question in post 249, I don't remember reading in the Terms of Use that I had to answer every question put to me by another player. I will answer your questions as I feel they are relevant, I am under no obligation to do so.
Uhh, I was not claiming anywhere in that post that it was the entire post, which is what you attempted to do with me by implying that there was no further content other than what you quoted. Completely different situations.ryan wrote: You were upset at me for misquoting you or only taking a few lines, yet you did the same thing earlier?
It just so happens that I think it was extremely helpful in finding scum, since it laid out exactly who I think the scum are. You are the one that has been asking us all along to post what we think about everyone, you should be very happy with that post!Than you leave June 7th and fast forward to post 548 where you throw suspicion at myself, Miztef and VD with the argument that we don’t have any evidence or content to back up our claims. The post is more defensive than it is helpful in finding scum.-
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Wrong, you are the only one that has voted for me. Don't try to pretend that this is an OMGUS move by me. The fact is that the three of you have been acting in concert for the last 3 pages, taking minor digs at each other, but always managing to find the same players suspicious.You fingered three people scum because they voted you
What does this mean? I have been doing nothing but posting about what I think since I got back.I'm confident enough in my claim to post about it, the question is, are you?-
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