Dekes wrote:
Do you really believe there are 3 (or even 4) scum on your wagon?
I refuse to answer this because I have already answered it in a previous post. If you refuse to read my posts I am not going to repeat myself for your benefit.
You've been nothing but accusing every single person on your wagon and that is flailing. Sure, the Newbie we played together, Beanman was throwing suspicion towards people who were questioning him all the time and he was town, so yeah, you could be bad town. But you're acting like the people are solely on your wagon because you HOS'd Zwet instead of voting him.
I find it funny you call it flailing, yet the game we played together when you were on the bubble I could say you were flailing as well, and you were town. So when you do it it is towny, when I do it it is scummy eh?
Here is one of your posts where you are "flailing" - I prefer to call it scum hunting, but hey you are the one that wants to rename the term:
http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 6#p2422826
That is simply not true. Your wagon is still intact because of how you handled the pressure. And you did a lot of suspicious things:
Scummy, scummy, scummy. If it will be so obvious what your role is, why not just claim at L-1? Because you haven't made up a good fake role claim yet, am I right?
And you say you will claim at L-2/L-1, yet you nameclaim at L-3 when no one else threatened to vote you. Why so overeager with your claim? This may very well be the first mod-provided fakeclaim I see.
If I have to ability claim - I have no problem with it, if my BW gets bigger I will, in fact I still have an ace up my sleeve that should pretty much guarantee me being obv-town, however there are some "issues" with it - however I am very valuable to the town, and I will not myself be lynched. Trust me, I will not by lynched today.
Then you go on and try to clear you name by saying it's a main character. Like UK said, there are many Castlevania (well over 20 with almost as many main characters). I'm betting everyone has gotten a main character.
Again, I said PROTAGONIST - I really wish you would pay more attention - I really hate having to repeat myself. Do you have a main protagonist as your character?
Scummy, scummy, scummy. You don't want us to speculate about your role, yet you give away it's an important role practically making you the NK choice number one. Why not just fullclaim at all? (inb4 omg, Dekes is rolefishing) I bet, it's because - like I said - you don't have a proper fake role claim yet. You want us to say "Mh, Rinoa is known for X, maybe tanstalas is a [insert PR here]!" so you can say "Yeah, you got me. See, that's why I didn't want scum to know my role!". Pure speculation on my part but it doesn't seem so far off.
I wish I was NK choice #1
And if I have to reveal my ability you will see why
About your so-called solid cases. Here's what you did to accuse the people on your wagon:
- You make up scumtells that are none (being lazy, skimming and tunneling are done by both town and scum) and pass it off as a solid case
I agree - maybe not any of these things individually would me scumtells - however they are tells, and when I get a few on one person it starts to get hard to ignore.
- You falsely use terms (parroting in the context of mafia is used for people who make statements that have been brought up by others and trying to pass it off as their own. If I say "Like player X said..." and then go on to state it this is not parroting. This is simply acknowledging a point someone else brought up) and pass it off as a solid case
http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 6#p2419606
And I quote from you -
Dekes wrote:
And dammit, tanstalas, for your #356. There are several things I was going to add into my post as well. Now it will be me parroting and buddying and whatnot all over again.
So in that last game we played together - you referred to it as parroting, now it's not? Hello? Contradictory train pulling into the station!
- You attack people for non-game related things like sleeping habits and writing style and pass it off as a solid case
I admit that was a weak case, however his whole 18 hour trip, first thing I did was log onto pc and read the thread, etc etc thing sounded funny, after an 18 hour trip first thing I would do is go to bed. I admit is a weak tell, but the fact is he did lie about his timeline - ok he said he was just "mistaken" whatever - I'll accept that. Him saying he thought he posted on Friday and then said that he was essentially v/la on Friday kinda struck me as contradictory.
- You even try to get the mod involved because katsuki told the mod shotty announced V/LA in another thread. So what? Stay to game related things.
I was mearly questioning if that was an allowed post, as I would say that goes against rule 4A - I admit, it is NOT related to the game, so why did you bring it up in your argument against me? Are you afraid the mod will agree with me and modkill your scum-buddy?
tanstalas wrote:@Everyone on my BW
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When
I get lynched and
if
I flip town who is going to be your next suspect and why?
Fix'd. Sorry, couldn't resist.
Well, I see you saw the question, and I am kind of shocked that you didn't even answer it. In the other game we played you had a lot of "If this person flips X then I will assume that Y is scum" You were town that game, and you were not even asked to speculate on what you would think if someone flipped whatever you decided to start doing it because Beanman did. This game I asked you POINT BLANK when I flip town who would be your next suspect and you did not even answer the question. You cannot say you did not see the question, as you quoted me, and then also changed the contents of the quote.. how scummy looking is that?
Here are the posts where you hypothesis on people "flipping" and what that could tell you:
http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 0#p2403470
http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 1#p2405821
http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 0#p2406810
http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 6#p2419606 (This would also be considered a "flailing" post by your new definition as well)
http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 1#p2419921 (as well you admit that you were "flailing" in this post)
http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 6#p2422826
No, because nobody's believing you on either your claim or your cases.
and my vote stays.
You know you are? So you know I am telling the truth? Now I admit this is most likely not a slip, more so the fact that you forgot to put the word "not" after "I know I am" but still, I thought it was interesting that you agree'd with me and I didn't even have to manipulate your quote box like you did mine
@UK
Don't just sit back and defend/coach tanstalas. The game is ten pages old and a lot happened, there must be people you are suspicious of.
UK is the most active person in this game...
@MPR, McGriddle
Please get involved. Who are you most of suspicious of at the moment and what do you think of the wagon on tanstalas.
This I do agree on, however you only mentioned my wagon, why not ask their opinion on Zwet's as well?
Another thing I find interesting. So far this entire game you have had 6 posts. Which at this point in the game consists of 2.7% of total posts. Going back to our first game at the time you got lynched you were at 9.7% of total posts. Again you were town that game, I find you doing a lot of stuff differently this game than in the game where you were town.
To recap, you calling stuff I am doing scummy is ironic because last game when you were town you were doing the same thing.