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What if 2-3 people who have seen the show put together a list of 12 main characters from season 1, and anyone _not_ on that list had to explain?Papa Zito - "Your signature has been blanked...we remove signatures at a users request if said signature references them, or if it quotes from a thread in the Speakeasy, which is not allowed without permission of the poster"-
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Oh man I see your point about names not implying roles now. Since when I think of Boone, I think 'haha what a nub', not 'wow that guy has amazing deductive powers'Papa Zito - "Your signature has been blanked...we remove signatures at a users request if said signature references them, or if it quotes from a thread in the Speakeasy, which is not allowed without permission of the poster"-
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oh ya I forgot to vote.
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VOTE: Dekes
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Farady/Seraphim, your avatar is Ethan.
Also @Faraday You're the one who told him to claim, I said claim after Dekes, but nobody listens to poor chesskid.Papa Zito - "Your signature has been blanked...we remove signatures at a users request if said signature references them, or if it quotes from a thread in the Speakeasy, which is not allowed without permission of the poster"-
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Ok. Doesn't really matter now anyway.
The other side of the island (Libby,Anna Lucia, etc)/Goodwin/Benjamin Linus/etc wasn't shown until season 2, right?
Because if so I'm having trouble thinking of who else would be scum, ignoring say the black smoke monster.Papa Zito - "Your signature has been blanked...we remove signatures at a users request if said signature references them, or if it quotes from a thread in the Speakeasy, which is not allowed without permission of the poster"-
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Ademisk, it makes no sense for vezok to just declare someone Ethan, because It's incredibly likely that we're lynching Dekes today, and then if he isn't Ethan, Vezok is in some shit, which is why I believe Vezok, and I'd guess the same is true of FaraSera.
Boone backstory in a paragraph:
Boone is a rich kid with a bimbo half-sister he likes a bit too much. He goes out of his way to protect her from bad relationships, though she's just using him cuz he's kinda slow.
He finally figures it out, and then wincest happens the day before the flight. On the island she doesn't want anything to do with him really so they mostly fight, and then Boone starts helping Locke with just about everything, and then he gets owned by a falling plane.
There's also the part in the pilot episode where he is trying to do CPR on Rose I think it was and failing and then Jack rolls in and is all like gtfo fool, I got this.
Boone in a sentence: Tries to be a hero, not very good at it.
That being said, I believe Vezo.Papa Zito - "Your signature has been blanked...we remove signatures at a users request if said signature references them, or if it quotes from a thread in the Speakeasy, which is not allowed without permission of the poster"-
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UNVOTE:
Definitely don't want to rush this. But I'm not saying I'm finished with the matter by unvoting.Papa Zito - "Your signature has been blanked...we remove signatures at a users request if said signature references them, or if it quotes from a thread in the Speakeasy, which is not allowed without permission of the poster"-
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Whats up with the massive smear campgain against vezo?
Dramonic
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Jenni, that was at first he said...it looks like he started demanding a claim after he realized.Papa Zito - "Your signature has been blanked...we remove signatures at a users request if said signature references them, or if it quotes from a thread in the Speakeasy, which is not allowed without permission of the poster"-
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EBWOP: I wasn't saying those 4 people were all equally scumalicious, btw, just that there were 4 posts in a short period of time that were critical of vezok.
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Ok so Ethan gets killed in the face by Charlie.
Also, Claire is in the first effing episode.Papa Zito - "Your signature has been blanked...we remove signatures at a users request if said signature references them, or if it quotes from a thread in the Speakeasy, which is not allowed without permission of the poster"-
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Spike through chest is Goodwin, that's s2 on the other side of the island.
Yes they grab Walt off the boat, but just walt, not the dad.Papa Zito - "Your signature has been blanked...we remove signatures at a users request if said signature references them, or if it quotes from a thread in the Speakeasy, which is not allowed without permission of the poster"-
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So That's what I was starting to think, FaraSera, that we should wait until tomorrow, and have him make sure he gets someone elses name correct.
The problem is that a mafia stalker isn't unheard of, right? SO he could not die and get correct info, at which point we lynch Dekes and see, and then if Dekes flips Claire we kill Vezo next?
Also something that comes to mind is that Ethan was practically the godfather of season 1, with it taking Hurley getting a list of all the passengers names for them to figure out he wasn't on the plane (If anything, Hurley would be a namecop imo, if there was one - sorry for the speculation on pr/names)
So it's not like he would get name inspected D1 and owned.
The people who hopped on that wagon, in order were:
FaraSera
Me
Vezo
TheLonging
[Ademisk hops in with an objection and an FoS Sera]
BloodCovenent hops in.
[Dekes claims]
I hop off to think things over
BloodCovenent hops off.
Not getting that great vibes about TheLonging (hate the caps, but I checked his Meta and it seems pretty consistent)
BloodCovent doesn't seem all that suspicious though.
Also:
Looking at ISO, Hacker has 5 1 sentence posts.
Jason needs to post more as well, but she's V/LA so hopefully we'll get a reasonable sized post when she gets back.Papa Zito - "Your signature has been blanked...we remove signatures at a users request if said signature references them, or if it quotes from a thread in the Speakeasy, which is not allowed without permission of the poster"-
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So basically if vezok survives the night, we decide on someone for him to use his ability on/someone volunteers, and if he gets it right, we trust him?Papa Zito - "Your signature has been blanked...we remove signatures at a users request if said signature references them, or if it quotes from a thread in the Speakeasy, which is not allowed without permission of the poster"-
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The problem Jason, is if his ability is that he always gets a wrong name (not that i see that happening cuz that's a shit role), if he targets a maf and gets a town name that isn't in play, they aren't going to disagree with him.Papa Zito - "Your signature has been blanked...we remove signatures at a users request if said signature references them, or if it quotes from a thread in the Speakeasy, which is not allowed without permission of the poster"-
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Btw I think most of us would have been up for lynching him if he confirmed that his name was Ethan, even if he claimed a pro-town ability+flavor.HackerHuck wrote:I wasn't necessarily going to vote you if said your name really was EthanPapa Zito - "Your signature has been blanked...we remove signatures at a users request if said signature references them, or if it quotes from a thread in the Speakeasy, which is not allowed without permission of the poster"-
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but the person he chooses should be required to post their role in code before he claims what it is. And even then if he is mafia they could plan it in the QT.Papa Zito - "Your signature has been blanked...we remove signatures at a users request if said signature references them, or if it quotes from a thread in the Speakeasy, which is not allowed without permission of the poster"-
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Yeah but we don't have to worry about it anymore because Dekes denied being Ethan, so somebody is lying, or something very strange is going on.Papa Zito - "Your signature has been blanked...we remove signatures at a users request if said signature references them, or if it quotes from a thread in the Speakeasy, which is not allowed without permission of the poster"-
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Magna, why are you willing to lynch HH? You only commented on one thing he said, and that was to ask a question.
I'm not getting the greatest vibe from you at the moment, as it seems more like you want to tear other people's arguments down than actually make any of your own.
Since I'd like you to post some thoughts.
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VOTE: MagnaofIllusionPapa Zito - "Your signature has been blanked...we remove signatures at a users request if said signature references them, or if it quotes from a thread in the Speakeasy, which is not allowed without permission of the poster"-
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You called me fat.
It's 4am, that's all I could process of what you said. I'll actually think about this after some sleepPapa Zito - "Your signature has been blanked...we remove signatures at a users request if said signature references them, or if it quotes from a thread in the Speakeasy, which is not allowed without permission of the poster"-
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K, so vezo confessing puts new light on Magna, though I still don't get a good vibe for some reason. It's probably his angry tone, but I'm guessing that has nothing to do with role.
I believe that Vezo is a lyncher now. Since his threats, would it be a good idea to have a vig shoot his ass if there is one?Papa Zito - "Your signature has been blanked...we remove signatures at a users request if said signature references them, or if it quotes from a thread in the Speakeasy, which is not allowed without permission of the poster"-
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I'll help this wagon. UNVOTE:
VOTE: Jenniwren
Am I being passive, FaraSera? (serious question, this is only my 2nd game here, and I replaced out of my first (It's ongoing, so I won't talk about it, but there was this guy being a douchebag in it,and I wasn't having fun so)) Definitely not new to in-person mafia, but forum mafia is a bit interesting to get involved in.
Also, I added Jenni to my list of supects at around page 5, for the same reason you point out about extreme active lurking, only emerging to talk about lost.
However I never said it in thread, but I promise I'm not strawmanning.Papa Zito - "Your signature has been blanked...we remove signatures at a users request if said signature references them, or if it quotes from a thread in the Speakeasy, which is not allowed without permission of the poster"-
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I mean where you just copy the other person argument without adding anything, yeah (there's a word for it that's not bandwagoning, but I got strawmanning confused with it)Papa Zito - "Your signature has been blanked...we remove signatures at a users request if said signature references them, or if it quotes from a thread in the Speakeasy, which is not allowed without permission of the poster"-
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Nice post, Magna - Townie points from me.
A couple of comments, though.
First, I think TheLonging genuinely missed Dekes comment about the nameclaiming in general, since he didn't address it specifically at Vezok, and a bunch of people were talking about it at the time. I know I had to go back and reread to see who said what about the mass nameclaim.
Two, I was reading a game (don't remember which one) that BC was in (pretty sure he was a dead town in it), but Except for his one giant WIFOM post about Dekes, I see nothing outside his normal (and imo kind of VI-like) play.
I'll hop on a pressure wagon, but definitely not ready to lynch BC unless he doesn't respond well.
Also, @everybody else. Vezok's fishing is anti-town, just completely ignore it. Agreed?Papa Zito - "Your signature has been blanked...we remove signatures at a users request if said signature references them, or if it quotes from a thread in the Speakeasy, which is not allowed without permission of the poster"-
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Man I don't even feel like resopnding to BloodCovenent, his arguments are so stupid.
Whatever, if someone who isn't him actually believes that anything he says I said was scummy, I'll be happy to explain myself.Papa Zito - "Your signature has been blanked...we remove signatures at a users request if said signature references them, or if it quotes from a thread in the Speakeasy, which is not allowed without permission of the poster"-
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Ok well I had nothing else to do today (oh the joys of September-starting college)
Iso on BloodCovenent:
#0 Dram, Cow, and Reck are town. No more content from me until i get to real internet which will be tomorrow night.
Erm Cow and Reck aren't play so I'm confused. But I've seen him do this sort of random declaration before, so null tell.
#1 jumps on Vezo for copying him. Shrug
#2 Ok whatever those last two posts were in the wrong game apparently, whatever.
#3 Asks about familiarity with Lost (starts that discussion)
#4 Suggests mass nameclaim (starts that discussion)
#5 Chainsaw defense on SeraFera, jumps on the Dekes wagon (also doesn't comment on it being L-2, though I had right above and below him)
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Responds to Dekes claim and (OMGUS/slight scum read on the quick-bandwagon hop) vote on BC with an argument that boils down to this:BloodCovenent wrote:Whatever you say dekes. I follow a claim of you being ethan which makes sense as a scum role what else was i supposed to do, ignore it? You may call me opportunistic but it was no way opportunistic. I am, believe it or not rather good at keeping track of thresholds and if someone were to come in and vote quickly I would have unvoted to let the day evolve so that you had time to claim or rebuttal. No doubt I do agree that occasionally the third or fourth vote on a player can be opportunistic. However scum-bloodcovenent would blindly jump on a wagon as the late voter with no reasoning. As you may ask what my reasoning is... well.... it's that there was a claim that your role was of an "other." And they are bad in season 1. Therefore i felt confident in you as a lynch. Note that it doesn't make sense for Scum Vezo to so early give off a fake claim though. Because i would assume he knows that if you flip town, he will be ultimately hung tomorrow. -One of the reasons why I followed him.
Anyways. I'll stall the wagon for now.
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Vote: Ademisk
scum.
Start with some derision,There was a cop lol!,you might think something but u wrong lol (world's longest sentence -> using emotion, not logic. Also this whole post gives an AtE vibe), then some nonsense about what a scum-BC would do, then repeats the first sentence argument again.
Also, the sentence "Because I would assume he knows that if you flip town, he will be hung tomorrow" ...Given future knowledge (or current knowledge if scum), that can read as Wow we get to lynch a town,nk a town,then lynch a town tomorrow, Blam 3 townies down.
Then votes Ademisk.
#7 Comments that Magna first brought up the idea of a lyncher. Doesn't actually stop to think for a second about what that implies.
#8 Now that the Dekes wagon appears to have stopped, points out some random scum-tell on Vezo (perhaps going for a vezo wagon, because one town is as good as another, right?
#9 Random WIFOM for 1.2.3, then talks about lyncher some more without actually stopping to think a about it.
#10 Null.
#11 "Personally. i think giving scum fake claims whether full or not makes for a lazy and poor scumteam"
Adding this to part of ISO-9, "1. You assume they have fake claims. If they did, this would be the first game that i have been in that scum were given fake claims aside from just suggesting that they claim Spartacus."
and from ISO-4 "I feel that if everyone name claimed only then that would make it harder for others to fake claim later. just my opinion =/"
If BC were scum with a good fakeclaim supplied, this is pretty reasonable distancing from the idea that he is fakeclaiming.
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Calls FaraSera scummy, after chainsawing him in Iso-5. I didn't see any change in FaraSera's play during those pages, and they are pretty high on my town list.
Also, FaraSera was called scummy for a policy lynch suggestion that was on page 1 or 2, but isn't commented on until page 9, then it is suggested that between Ademisk and FaraSera there is a scum. Distraction.
Criticizing Dram for actually waiting for a claim from Dekes before putting him at L-1 (OH THE HORROR)
Complains about Dekes not full-claiming, when that is very anti-town. Dekes is right to have said the minimum amount to move the wagon off of him, and I don't want him to say anything else that will help the mafia out.
Then BC attacks Dekes again for not voting Vezok.....why would you vote a cop on D1? Even if he is scum, there was no evidence at the time (or now) that he was in fact scum
The prevailing opinion at the time was that Boone sucks.
From Dekes point of view, as a clear town if someone starts a wagon on you with a bunch of bullshit, those who seem especially eager to hop on look far more scummy than the one who started it.
Were I Dekes, for example, i would have believed that Boone sucked, and found the speed with which the wagon reached L-2 very scummy.
Buddies up to Huck.
Ok moving along to me now:
Accuses me of trying to frame him with my post about the wagon order, when my post was actually correct (he was the last person to hop off the wagon at that point..I did miss HH hoping _on_ the wagon at that point, but that's not that relevant (also that's why I'd prefer a BC lynch to a HH lynch, because I get more a more sincere vibe from HH).
Moar buddying up to Huck
..Oh no chessid assumed the mafia have a QT. *panic*
Repeats his defense from all allegation as "I follow claims [whether obv fake or not because I'm scum lol]" The part in brackets was omitted by him, however.
"Vezok is a poor player sometimes. that is part of the reason why I followed the claim "headfirst."" makes no sense - if Vezok is a bad player, why would you immediately hop on his wagon?
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Shut the Fuck up! You say that now because everything is unraveled already. Yea, so what you were the first person to suggest him being a lyncher. Great, more power to you. But because i didn't think of that, it makes me scum? Just because you "saw" the plan, doesn't make it obvious to everyone else from the very beginning.
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No, it's scumtastic because you didn't even stop to consider lyncher, you just tried to jump on a wagon on someone you knew to be town.
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@ ModCan we get a votecount?
Also, I am 20% of the posts in this thread. MuahahahahahPapa Zito - "Your signature has been blanked...we remove signatures at a users request if said signature references them, or if it quotes from a thread in the Speakeasy, which is not allowed without permission of the poster"-
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Not in favor of wasting a lynch on a lyncher. Just vig him tonight, problem solved.Papa Zito - "Your signature has been blanked...we remove signatures at a users request if said signature references them, or if it quotes from a thread in the Speakeasy, which is not allowed without permission of the poster"-
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Well if he gets vigged he's dead either way. If there is a vig, our problem will be solved tomorrow, so why waste the lynch?Papa Zito - "Your signature has been blanked...we remove signatures at a users request if said signature references them, or if it quotes from a thread in the Speakeasy, which is not allowed without permission of the poster"-
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I can do it right back to you...You said 'his shot' WHAT MAKES YOU ASSUME THE VIG ONLY HAS ONE SHOT?Papa Zito - "Your signature has been blanked...we remove signatures at a users request if said signature references them, or if it quotes from a thread in the Speakeasy, which is not allowed without permission of the poster"-
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Ever hear of Pandora's box? Lets leave it at if there's a vig shoot him lolPapa Zito - "Your signature has been blanked...we remove signatures at a users request if said signature references them, or if it quotes from a thread in the Speakeasy, which is not allowed without permission of the poster"-
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But if he truly is removed from game if we lynch Dekes, then we lose that lynch+Vezok+a night killl, so we effectively lose 3 towniesPapa Zito - "Your signature has been blanked...we remove signatures at a users request if said signature references them, or if it quotes from a thread in the Speakeasy, which is not allowed without permission of the poster"-
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no I think Dekes is town, and Vezok is lyncher. But it's still better to vig Vezok so we don't have to worry about him screwing us over if we get to lylo for a joint win with mafia.Papa Zito - "Your signature has been blanked...we remove signatures at a users request if said signature references them, or if it quotes from a thread in the Speakeasy, which is not allowed without permission of the poster"-
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Just a heads up, I will beV/LA from Saturday 9/4 to Saturday 9/11
Super sorry, but I'm moving to college and doing community action next week no internet so yeah.
I will be around tomorrow thoughPapa Zito - "Your signature has been blanked...we remove signatures at a users request if said signature references them, or if it quotes from a thread in the Speakeasy, which is not allowed without permission of the poster"-
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chesskid3 Survivor
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So BC is a VI. Goddamnit.
Unvote
Spending all day packing today, not much time to say anything/nothign happened except the scummiest person alive was just randomly cleared.
Should I put down a vote before leaving for a week, or just remain unvoted?Papa Zito - "Your signature has been blanked...we remove signatures at a users request if said signature references them, or if it quotes from a thread in the Speakeasy, which is not allowed without permission of the poster"-
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chesskid3 Survivor
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Ademisk, Dram has role related info that makes him know BC is town.
Since BC is town and yet really scummy , that makes him a VIPapa Zito - "Your signature has been blanked...we remove signatures at a users request if said signature references them, or if it quotes from a thread in the Speakeasy, which is not allowed without permission of the poster"-
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chesskid3 Survivor
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