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Sure.Mariyta wrote:Care to explain your reasoning, then?
Look at everyone else's (minus GW's) vote, then look at this one. First off, this one is only one line (doesn't draw attention). Also, everyone else gives a completely non-game related reason for their "random" vote while you actually call Razgriz "scummy," making it seem like there's some kind of element of scumhunting in the vote when in reality there's not.Mariyta wrote:VOTE: Razgris for being second twice. Very scummy.The distance between insanity and genius is measured only by success.-
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No, I completely made that reason up to see how you (and I was hoping other players) would react. Your reaction is satisfactory.Mariyta wrote:That's seriously your reasoning?
UNVOTE: Mariyta
Not giving any opinions on other players + criticizing other player's opinions with no reasons = scummymongoose wrote:Are you one of them? jk. I dont see what the whole "policy" fuss is about at all.
VOTE: mongoose
Discussion about discussion = failjason wrote:I kinda see it as nothing more than a conversation starter to be honest, I see people calling for Policy lynches etc early on a few times and its done to stimulate conversation. Besides, how many actual policy lynches happen on day 1?
Please start posting real content.
This post pinged on my scumdar a bit. Kdub isn't calling inhim out on a scumslip, but instead seems annoyed that inhim has such an early townread on freak. IGMEOYkdub wrote:He is town based on what exactly?The distance between insanity and genius is measured only by success.-
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So, I guess you just prefer an RVS which spirals into a crappy theory debate about policy lynches...Mariyta wrote:I really hate the "I was just testing you" argument.
Also, I was hoping others besides you would comment on it (I wasn't expecting bandwagoning votes; that actually would have sent up some red flags for me).
If you look at my meta, you'll see this isn't the case (inhim has seen it before). And also, I think you could figure that this isn't the case from the ridiculously contrived reasoning.Mari wrote:Yes, the whole point of RVS is to test people and evaluate their reactions, but Antihero's response seems more like a "Crap, no one jumped on the bandwagon. Time to move on."
@inhim: "<3"? What's less than 3?The distance between insanity and genius is measured only by success.-
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This wagon jump looks kind of shady to me because you don't say anything about about why mongoose's post was bad. IGMEOY too.Coach Travis wrote:I personally hate policy lynches, mostly because I feel you should vote on who you actually find scummy, not on who you want out because they can't help. Yes, anti-town players are a problem, but wasting a lynch on someone you think could be town, is not a good idea, because if you keep doing that, the scum can just hide in the shadows and win the game easily. So just for suggesting such a thing, I'm not liking rajrhcpfreak, though I'm not sure if he's scummy or it's just a difference in playstyle. No read on Razgriz yet, because what he did is totally null. Antihero looks town to me so far, since he was the one to point out mongoose, and the rest of his post was also pretty good.
And yeah, that one post from mongoose was bad and probably the only really suspicious thing so far,Vote:mongooseThe distance between insanity and genius is measured only by success.-
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No, it was an attack on jason's last post. The world doesn't revolve around you, you know.horrordude0215 wrote:
Was this an attack on me or something? That's what it's looking like...Antihero wrote:So, I guess you just prefer an RVS which spirals into a crappy theory debate about policy lynches...The distance between insanity and genius is measured only by success.-
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DMSIS is everywhere! I can't escape him!
(Just kidding, shotty, you're cool :p )
Wow!drmyshottyizsik wrote:unvote
Just re read right now I think the town leading wagons are pretty correct, but Raj is looking scummier than goose
Even this post is fluff.(Which is my main reason. He seems to be active lurking)raj wrote:everything is good about this post.
Mongoose sounds like hes trying to help or trying his hardest as scum to make himself look useful. there is a fine line between those two and right now hes on it.
but Razgriz has made absolutely no helpful comments.
GW is playing well. on be hath of the town, keep it up.
He talks about how a post is good, but he cant see anything one way or another. So in other words this post equals nothing.
vote Raj
1) shotty is actually trying to post content and back up his votes and suspicions with reasons. Something's up. (This point isn't totally serious, but this postisdrastically different from my meta of town-shotty; something to keep in mind)
2) I would hardly call what raj is doing "active lurking." While well-thought out, this vote=bad.The distance between insanity and genius is measured only by success.-
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QFT; jason is justified, Raz's isn't.charter wrote:Looking for a replacement for Razgriz....
NO MORE REPLACEMENTS. NEXT PERSON WHO QUITS GETS MODKILLED. I EXPLICITLY SAID NO REPLACEMENTS.
I mean seriously, not interested don't sign up next time.
Now,
@Mariyta (can I shorten that to "mari"?): Why do you really like your vote?The distance between insanity and genius is measured only by success.-
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Seriously, people, this isn't MD; leave the theory there.
inhim's buddying =; drop itred herring
shotty fishing for a modkill = bad play; but people trying to finagle that into a scumtell ping on my scumdar more (jimfinn)
rolefishing is badthats a really interesting take, though you could say the same thing about being a VT, in a game with so many interesting roles. Or he may not want the pressure or being QB. So I don't think it really is a scum tell.The distance between insanity and genius is measured only by success.-
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What would a smiley have done? You obviously accused him of being jim's scumbuddy in that post.Mariyta wrote:First, that's exactly how your post came off. It sounded like you were accusing me of not voting mongoose when I voted jim. I explained why I voted jim instead.Second, I wasn't being aggressive, though apparently you read it that way. Maybe I should've stuck a smiley face at the end or something.Your reaction is quite aggressive, though.
I like Antihero's question to kdub and would like Coach Travis to answer the same, please.
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Actually, rereading the thread, I need to revise that (and if anyone says I did this is because of mari, you need to stop failing).Antihero wrote:People, now is a good time to drop the jim thing.
town: GW, inhim, freak, mari
scum: mongoose, kdub, horrordude
Proceed accordingly.
town: GW, inhim, freak, mari, locke
scum: horrordude, shotty (this one is gut, and my brain hasn't figured out why)
Though kdub has been chasing red herrings a lot in this game, I've satisfied myself with his play after the reread.
Reading horror, it seems like his posts are just sniping at a bunch of minor things people say. Not to mention that the GW vote is pure, unmitigated crap.
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Why did I take my vote off you?mongoose wrote:i agree with coach travis in the fact that the case on Kdub is very weak and I really don't think he is that scummy. He pretty much took the words out of my mouth. Also, I do agree with antihero about horrordude. His tends to respond to inquisition by questions of his own. Also, his pots just seem off.unvote;vote horrordude
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VOTE: mongoose
To be sure, this distancing attempt is fail. So horrordude is still scum.The distance between insanity and genius is measured only by success.-
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Wait...what?drmyshottyizsik wrote:no I didn't. Horror is just my third choice. I am still figuring him out, but i am pretty sure kdub is scum
The amount of crappy piggybacking on the horrordude suspicion is really making me doubt my scumread on him.
shotty's chainsaw defense + the above post = shotty/CT scumpairThe distance between insanity and genius is measured only by success.-
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I agree.rajrhcpfreak wrote:its hard to think that the scum would all be on shotty's wagon without a fight.
Coach Travis post 208 wrote:Yeah, I don't blame you for keeping your vote on Shotty, he's gone back to his old ways after starting off with an uncharacteristically decent post. The thing is, while he's certainly acting anti-town at this point which is not a good thing, it's really hard to determine if he's scummy or not, because he plays like this all the time. So lynching him would almost be a policy lynch, which is the only reason I'm happy to keep my vote on mongoose, see what he turns up as and then go from there, because with him I am getting a scum read, where with Shotty it's more "WTF Shotty' than anything else.The distance between insanity and genius is measured only by success.-
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Meh, I take back my scumread on horrordude. My picks for shotty's partners are CT and mongoose.Mariyta wrote:
It's probably because he's scum.raj wrote:horrordude0215 - has been bugging me for some reason. i cant lay my finger on it right now.The distance between insanity and genius is measured only by success.-
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Nope
Let's start with the crappy NK meta:
1) There were a bunch of people on the mongoose wagon yesterday.
2) If you want to analyse this kill, go back and read GW's exchange with you around post 140.
My top two suspects are still mongoose and Travis, but if mongoose somehow flips town, I'm willing to bet Mari is scum.The distance between insanity and genius is measured only by success.-
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Mariyta wrote:2. The exchange between me and GW was a misunderstanding, nothing more.
Mari wrote:What else did I do that you don't like?My gut doesn't like your play for some reason; I have confidence that my brain will figure it out soon.
I still haven't fully grasped it yet, but you seem to chase after a lot of red herrings. But your shotty vote yesterday, doesn't fit with what would seem like optimal scumplay... ... and neither does mongoose's (considering shotty was a pretty powerful scum PR). inhim's might, though...
Meh, both of them are probtown (jim because of the thing with shotty and horror because of the crappy piggybacking from scumshotty).Mari wrote:I still don't like jim or horror.
I don't know if this is a subtle rolefish, or what; but this is an example of something that I don't like about your play, Mari.Mari wrote:And I'd like Raj to expound on the GW-Antihero connection he noticed.The distance between insanity and genius is measured only by success.-
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Actually, strike that. I think I now understand what you're trying to get at.Antihero wrote:
I don't know if this is a subtle rolefish, or what; but this is an example of something that I don't like about your play, Mari.Mari wrote:And I'd like Raj to expound on the GW-Antihero connection he noticed.
I think I'll be doing an ISO of inhim soon.
Just in case anyone needs to be reminded of why Coach Travis is scum.
There's a lot of appeasement and a lot of implicit use of the VI excuse.Coach Travis Post 208 wrote:Yeah, I don't blame you for keeping your vote on Shotty, he's gone back to his old ways after starting off with an uncharacteristically decent post. The thing is, while he's certainly acting anti-town at this point which is not a good thing, it's really hard to determine if he's scummy or not, because he plays like this all the time. So lynching him would almost be a policy lynch, which is the only reason I'm happy to keep my vote on mongoose, see what he turns up as and then go from there, because with him I am getting a scum read, where with Shotty it's more "WTF Shotty' than anything else.
Quasi-backtracking once he's called down on it...Coach Travis Post 210 wrote:How did you come to that conclusion? You can't say I'm distancing because I haven't gone after him more than anyone else who isn't liking him, and my last wasn't exactly defending him, I admitted he's been awful and his playstyle has been anti-town. I just don't think his behavior automatically makes him scummy, because he pulls this same crap in every game he's in, regardless of his role. so it's really hard to get a clear read on him He's still one of my three suspects, so nothing's changed there, I just think right now that out of the three he's the one I'm less sure of. So I don't see how you could think we're partners.
Coach Travis reminds us once again that shotty is "on his list of suspects". At this point, distancing is likely.Coach Travis wrote:I believe Shotty's at L-1 now. I'm willing to hammer, since he is on my list of suspects, but I'll at least him give a chance to make one more post first, if only to see how hilarious it will be.
And for the record, here's shotty's chainsaw defense:
As a side note, I notice the same thing with inhim...shotty wrote:kdub wrote:
Not sure I buy this excuse. If you have a serious reason when you vote, but don't say what it is because you are too lazy, that's not really a problem with your game that can be "worked on". You either do it or you don't.Coach Travis wrote:Yeah, I'll admit my vote was lazy, I'll do that sometimes where I have a serious reason for voting, but just don't actually give it. Definitely something I need to work on.
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Mariyta wrote:Antihero wrote:My gut doesn't like your play for some reason; I have confidence that my brain will figure it out soon.
I still haven't fully grasped it yet, but you seem to chase after a lot of red herrings. But your shotty vote yesterday, doesn't fit with what would seem like optimal scumplay... ... and neither does mongoose's (considering shotty was a pretty powerful scum PR). inhim's might, though...
I'm sorry I don't live up to your mafia-playing standards. I really don't think I'm as awful as you seem to think I am.
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UNVOTE: Coach Travis
Actually, the claim doesn't make much sense for scum-CT.
I'm really doubting there's more that one TE or LB (too many people using points for that to work; CT, if you really are the TE, use your investigation tonight).
From a scum point of view, Mari's vote for shotty is suboptimal. I'm ruling her out for now. Interactions with shotty decrease the chances of finding scum among jim, kdub, horrordude, and freak. That leaves inhim and mongoose.
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Oh... so inhim isn't your buddy, either.mongoose wrote:vote: inhimshallbe
not one thing productive, and no explanations. Ok, one post with an explanation (#220)
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No, I completely made that reason up to see how you (and I was hoping other players) would react. Your reaction is satisfactory.Mariyta wrote:That's seriously your reasoning?
UNVOTE: Mariyta
Not giving any opinions on other players + criticizing other player's opinions with no reasons = scummymongoose wrote:Are you one of them? jk. I dont see what the whole "policy" fuss is about at all.
VOTE: mongoose
Discussion about discussion = failjason wrote:I kinda see it as nothing more than a conversation starter to be honest, I see people calling for Policy lynches etc early on a few times and its done to stimulate conversation. Besides, how many actual policy lynches happen on day 1?
Please start posting real content.
This post pinged on my scumdar a bit. Kdub isn't calling inhim out on a scumslip, but instead seems annoyed that inhim has such an early townread on freak. IGMEOYkdub wrote:He is town based on what exactly?
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vote: mongooseinHimshallibe wrote:):
It's a heart.inHimshallibe wrote:I rarely explain town reads. I'm not ignoring anything, I just think rajtown is so obv it DEFINITELY doesn't need explanation.
Welcome, Locke! MORE VOTES ON MONGOOSE ARE REQUESTED. Thanks.inHimshallibe wrote:LL, we're best friends, so maybe I'm just biased? IDK. I have a good handle on rajtown, though, and this is it.inHimshallibe wrote:
Yet still no unvote?GhostWriter wrote:
That should be "see", not "she"...GhostWriter wrote:I'm actually fine with Jim for now though. I cannot wait to she him live up to this.
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Tricksy scum.inHimshallibe wrote:Remind me why we ever switched from mongoose again?
"Agree on this, agree on that, and also his posts just seem off."mongoose wrote:i agree with coach travis in the fact that the case on Kdub is very weak and I really don't think he is that scummy. He pretty much took the words out of my mouth. Also, I do agree with antihero about horrordude. His tends to respond to inquisition by questions of his own. Also, his pots just seem off.unvote;vote horrordude
"and also his posts just seem off."
Covering all the bases, I see.
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Let's get this back on track.
I would like to point out he never came backinHimshallibe wrote:Indeed it was a bad call, based on the actual circumstances.
unvote
Be back in a bit.
Where so you see a good post in these?inHimshallibe wrote:LOL
UNVOTE: inHimshallibe
@mongoose: How about Locke? What do you think of him?
@inhim: To be sure, mongoose is the lynch for today; now I'm trying to find the 3rd scum.The distance between insanity and genius is measured only by success.-
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Oh, and for all the mongoose wagon doubters out there:
^thisjimfinn near the end of D1 wrote:I'm leaving my vote on DMSIS in light of his recent posts. Only for scum does it really make a difference who is the hammer, in my experience. Scum want towncred for hammering their buddy, but the town doesn't care who hammers as long as the scum dies.The distance between insanity and genius is measured only by success.-
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rajrhcpfreak wrote:IF YOU ARE A TE AND YOUR NAME ISNT COACH TRAVIS DO NOT USE YOUR ABILITY TONIGHT.
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Even if you're a TE and you suspect travis is fakeclaiming, DON'T USE YOUR ACTION. If there aren't any points deducted from offense tomorrow, we know who to lynch.
CT: If mongoose flips scum, I would consider using that cop+vig thing (just a suggestion).
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1) Piling onto kdub ... how original.mongoose wrote:unvote;vote:kdub
Hes trying to buddy up to me because he knows I'm not scum, and when I get lynched he will look like a smart townie. I'm still not sure why I am being lynched. Because I pointed out that inhim was scummy?
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also, inhim's vote isn't helping his cause at all. It makes him look even worse, without any reasoning.
2) You didn't "point out" anything. I was the one who initially voted inhim and you came and posted his ISO.
3) Your lack of reasoning w/ your inhim vote adds hypocrisy to your list of scumtells.The distance between insanity and genius is measured only by success.-
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This is pretty infuriating to me, regardless of if you are town or scum. I have yet to see your "logical arguments" that are original. And even if you somehow flip town, I don't see why I should feel stupid at all. Can you tell me why?mongoose wrote:
Why is it that I always survive longer as scum than town. Hurry up and lynch me, since you dont seem to be listening to any logical arguments and I want you all to feel stupid.Mariyta wrote:Mongoose is almost definitely scum.The distance between insanity and genius is measured only by success.-
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I'm doubting that jimfinn is scum.rajrhcpfreak wrote:vote: jimfinn
the only one scummy on mongoose's lynch, imho. we can go back to him trying to give us his meta to explain why he wasnt posting. was early on the shotty lynch. and was so helpful piggybacking on what i said about the TE.
all of those reasons are enough for a vote.
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I would be surprised if kdub isn't town. As for horror, I'm doubting he's scum due to the crappy piggybacking by shotty.Mariyta wrote:
Now this is funny.Kdub wrote:I'm down for an inHim lynch today. Mari and raj seem like possible buddies.
VOTE: inHim
Based on memory, I'm leaning toward horror, kdub, or Locke (especially based on Razgriz's play). Will re-read when I get home tonight before placing a vote.The distance between insanity and genius is measured only by success.-
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I just replaced horrodude in another game. I think his inactivity might be site-wide.
You confuse me, Mari.Mariyta wrote:
I disagree. The more I think about it, though, I might move him to third and bump Locke to second. I also have this nagging feeling that there is scum sitting in the group of folks I feel to be definitely town, but that could just be unwarranted paranoia.Antihero wrote:Why is jim the second person on Mari's list? He's the most townish person alive to me right now.
Scum --> Town
inhim, locke, horrordude, freak, mari, kdub, jimfinnThe distance between insanity and genius is measured only by success.-
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inhim, why are you just debating the FoS point? What, besides that, makes horrordude scum?
So you pile onto kdub and horror ... how original.BGs
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Do you really think this, or are you just saying this because Mari and I are two of the most active posters and you don't want either of us questioning you?GGs
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inhim, let's just say that horrordude flips town, who do you think is scum? If horror flips scum?The distance between insanity and genius is measured only by success.-
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The fact that Mari was the only one who answered this is pretty telling to me.AH wrote:inhim, why are you just debating the FoS point? What, besides that, makes horrordude scum?
I hate to be the one to point this out, but if we had a FB who was paying attention, Coach Travis would still be here.Mari wrote:I don't think it's a good idea for the QB to claim. If he claims, he's a guaranteed target tonight and we have to hope the fullback is paying attention.The distance between insanity and genius is measured only by success.-
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