RedCoyote 494 wrote:I don't get why there are two different encryptions? And a third is mentioned?
md5 encryption is mentioned for misdirection. The vigenere cipher is hard to translate but almost impossible to crack without the keyword, the caesar cipher is easy to translate and easy to crack.
The simple story is the scum lied, then they got lazy.
Enigma 496 wrote:Yes, I'm fighter, and by process of elimination I thought that Percy had sub.
You are a *deep breath*
*counts to 10*
OK, if you're town, then this is one of the most anti-town moves I've ever, ever seen. I could have any of four abilities, and by claiming your result and voting today, you put me in a position where I likely had to claim today. Sure I didn't
have
to claim, but at least this way we can get the setup bullshit over and done with. I'm really annoyed that I had to out myself today, as chances are I'm not going to get any more use out of my PR.
It makes a lot more sense with Enigma as scum, because outing the Eavesdropper is great for you guys.
Also, Enigma,
Enigma wrote:Unfortunately I actually know a bit about cryptography, (just a pity I'm not going coding and cryptography until next year). You don't fuckign use a Cesar cipher if you want encrypt stuff. It's a fucking joke of a cipher, one of the most obvious ones to realize by eye and easiest to crack.
Enigma wrote:I think it's a miracle that Percy managed to figure out all the Caesar constants tbh. Convenient hey?
What story do you want to stick to? Recognising the Caesar cipher is easy, because punctuation is intact. And using an applet like
this one means you can just cycle through the constants from 1 to 25 and find the right one.
As for the vigenere cipher, I had a lot of difficult decoding it, as I said. I don't know what site they're using. I used
this.
Let me quote this also:
Enigma wrote:I tried to rolefish Eavesdrop in the post your linked Percy, that is correct.
More reasons to believe Enigma is scum. His "Scum are sooo stupid for doing xyz" is really on the nose.
Hey Enigma, what cipher would
you
have used? I think Vigenere is a great choice, though releasing the codewords after Eavesdrop went live was dumb (though they did try to throw dirt on Hinduragi, which means the Eavesdropper would have to know how to decode it).
I'd like to hear all about these "maths based" ciphers. Please enlighten me!
Eavesdrop was not my first preference, it was my second. My first preference was Espionage.
THIS IS ME TESTING THE CYPHER TO SEE IF
YOU FOUR
CAN PROPERLY DECRYPT IT
I don't get it either. The post was full of misdirection, and any attempt to say that this throws doubt on my claim is beyond dumb. Why would I put something like that in there on purpose? I'm just quoting what I got.
That's part of the reason I think hinduragi is town. Putting the cipher key in the post meant that I had to go to some effort to get his name, and it would be super-tempting to have a knee-jerk "FINALLY I CRACKED IT! HAHA SCUMTEAM, I KNOW HINDU IS ONE OF YOU!" reaction. Instead, no.
Enigma wrote:I still think there is a chance that Percy is actually scum sub and he pulled up this whole eavesdrop charade because there are just too many inconsistencies.
Yeah, sure I did, and I risked getting CC'd for absolutely nothing
Enigma wrote:What do you think about the leaked message Percy? Because I don't think the leaked message fits in well with what you have described. At all.
I think it's exactly what they said in the fifth message I got. They're faking a dropped message. I've thought about it for a while, and I think the scum motivation was to smear Zhero. Judging by his reaction as well, and I think he gets some townpoints.
Calcifer wrote:If scum did in fact spam this obviously fake message, Percy would have said something about getting three or so of them.
That's not how probabilities work.
RedCoyote wrote:Also, if this is the simplest cipher, why was the more difficult one abandoned (Vinaigrette)?
The Vigenere cipher is hard to use. Imagine you're the scumteam and you need to spend a minute or two decoding each message in your QT. After a while, you'd run the risk of getting complacent, especially if there's only a 5% chance of any message being intercepted. That's the story I see working through the messages I've received. If the fourth message is fake, they've done a bang-up job of sounding exactly like Doombunny
and
predicting his play the next day.
SocioPath wrote:5%? Where in the hell did THAT number even come from?
Eavesdrop wrote:Eavesdrop
: A crucial part of the Allies’ success during WWII was its ability to crack into German communications. It worked then. Why wouldn’t it work now? {In DEFCON 3 or below, every time a member of an opposing faction communicates with another member of its faction privately during the night,
there is a 5% chance the message will be intercepted and its contents PM’d to you
. During the day, this possibility increases to 30%.}
SocioPath wrote:SO MANY FACTORS.
Sure, but the Doombunny lead is the best one I've got.
AurorusVox wrote:If scum are spamming messages, Percy should have gotten some through (5% would have about 80 posts, and surely some of those would be the spammed ones?)
I've never received a message more than once. And the during-the-day messages are 10% public drop, 30% private drop. If the scum did it one-at-a-time, there's a 7% chance that the message would drop publicly but not privately, 3% chance it would drop to both, and 27% chance it would go to me and not be made public.
Times I received the messages:
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I've got a plane to catch. Doombunny is scum, and Enigma is probably his buddy.