Double Vote Mafia -Mini 1239- Over

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/confirm

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Oh lord we're only on page two and there's ad hom...

vote killerjester

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Mod:

Can you clarify something? Do our votes need to be on two different people or can they be on the same person?

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Also I advise you to read the rules, particularly the game specific ones.

game specific rules

1. This is Double Vote Mafia: If you vote you

must vote two different people

. To reiterate you may either not vote anyone, or have a vote on two people, but you can't have just one vote on just one person.

*facepalm* All right, well

Vote Hiraki

because he's evil.

That makes two.

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Vote: Nintendoaddict1
Vote: NobodySpecial

It's the "N"s.

Vote hiphop
Vote Hiraki

Guess what my reason is?

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VOTE: hiphop
VOTE: protoplasm

@nintendo, not that I'm particularly upset, but what happened to your ad hom argument?

Cause your not worth the time.

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Unvote Unvote

Vote: Friend Mairsill
Vote:AurorusVox

Guys mind if I don't talk?

cool.

No. Stop lurking.

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nintendoaddict is scum for having a legitimate reason to vote killerjester pre-confirmation and then dropping it to RVS.

Obv. either killerjester is scum and this was done as light bussing before the votes counted: or killerjester was mislynch material and nintendoaddict forgot to follow through.
Despite the fact I dislike Hiraki stating his intent to lurk, I actually feel the scenario with kjscum is more likely, esp. given hiphop's points against him.

Unvote: Hiraki;
Vote: killerjester

@mod: Just had a thought. You say we have to cast both votes at the same time, but if we're unvoting one person to vote another, do we also need to re-vote the person we wish to remain voting? So in the above example, do I also need to re-vote nintendoaddict?

I pointed out he was using ad hom. How is that a legitimate reason? It was RVS.

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I don't like the so called case that hiphop supposedly has. His logic in his back and forth with Christine on the last page was weaksauce.

And it's active lurking posts like these:

All I read is blaaaaaaaaargh.

Nothing new.

That make me want to hurl a brick at my laptop.

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I don't like the so called case that hiphop supposedly has. His logic in his back and forth with Christine on the last page was weaksauce.

And it's active lurking posts like these:

All I read is blaaaaaaaaargh.

Nothing new.

That make me want to hurl a brick at my laptop.

In other words, I like where my votes are atm.

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Voided goes from agreeing with all my posts to having me as scummiest excluding SuperLurker Hiraki despite most other players in the game lurking too

Whee~

Are you scum or a blind townie?

Look at his page 3 reads list. When he even gives a read, they are all null. Oh, wait, except when he calls himself town. But it's the way he said it that I don't like. "Town to myself." wtf.

Reading those last posts by Voided has given me a headache from the constant scumdar pinging.

Unvote hiphop, Vote Voidedmafia

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Will be gone all day today.

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Okay, I'm not liking how much of a thing NS is making out of the original question.

NS, why is it so important to know if English is Whiskers' first language? Maybe it's his/her second language but they are fluent in it?

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I have played with many players for whom English is a hindrance, because it's not their native language. This is a game of text, of argument, of debate. It helps to have a facility with the language in which you are arguing.

Thus the question. I believe it would shed some light on whether Whiskers is deliberately avoiding certain things, or whether certain things said could be either a scumslip or an innocent language-slip.

I'm not impressed by Whiskers' arrogance in not answering a simple question.

Unvote, unvote

Vote: Whiskers
Vote AurorusVox

I need to re-examine AV. Although Whiskers' arrogance could conceivably include strong bussing.

Unvote Hiraki, Vote NS

Your still pushing for that answer.

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Do you at least see my reasoning behind asking it? Also, I'm very tenacious.

I see your reasons, but I don't think Whiskers' English is bad or not understandable, thus I don't find the question was needed.

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Do you at least see my reasoning behind asking it? Also, I'm very tenacious.

I see your reasons, but I don't think Whiskers' English is bad or not understandable, thus I don't find the question was needed.

Whether you think the question was needed is irrelevant.

I still want an answer, although it's evident that I won't be getting one, and therefore, I fully believe Whiskers is scum. There's no point in avoiding that question. None whatsoever. It's sheer arrogance and anti-town behavior.

So, not wanting to say whether English is someone's first language makes them scum?

Whee, I want a 1 for 1 here. We can double hammer once so lynch me AND either Whiskers or Voided.
Let's do it.

Read the rules. There are no double hammers.

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FoS: nintendoaddict

And, nintendo, don't twist my words. It's the arrogance, and the avoidance of a simple question that makes me think she's scum.

No, you said it looked like you weren't getting an answer, therefore you fully believe Whiskers is scum. How did I twist your words exactly?

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FoS: nintendoaddict

the avoidance of a simple question that makes me think she's scum.

The question IS whether or not their first language is English.

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I feel the double hammer is more practical in lylo to be quite honest.

I wouldn't mind having nintendo as the second lynch along with myself. His response tells me that at least one of Whiskers or Voided is a scumbuddy ("Oh noes just lynch AV not one of THEM we can't actually do it anyway /distraction tactics!")

Can you explain this a little more? For one, why are you comfortable with lynching yourself? Next, I don't quite see how that makes a scumbuddy connection, can you elaborate?

2. Double votes means potential double hammers! But to avoid too much swinginess only the first double-hammer will be counted. Thereafter if two people are on -1 and a player votes both of them only the first person named in the players vote-post will be lynched.

3. If the game get's to lylo the game reverts to regular voting. I.e. no more double votes.

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Vote: nintendoaddict[/b]

OMGUSOMGUSOMGUS

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Vox, nintendo was pointing out that you only get ONE double lynch. That's flailing? Yeah, because it's CERTAINLY better to use our ONE double lynch when we have the LEAST information.

Actually, I've been trying to tell all of you that there are no double lynches, not that we only get one. If there is a double hammer, only the first vote of the two votes in that post will count and there is only one lynch.

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Okay, well, let me suggest you reinterpret. The way I understand is, we get One Double-Lunch, and THEN it works exactly the way you stated above, the rest of the game.

But that first time we have a double-hammer, we get a double lynch.

I plan not to allow a double hammer if I can help it.

I don't need to reinterpret, it's stated in game specific rule 2 that if there is a double hammer, only the first vote will count.

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Game-specific Rule #2 clearly states that there is a potential for a double-hammer, and that only the first instance of such will be acknowledged. Thereafter, there is the possibility of only one hammer per day.

Please, people, it's a game

about

intensely involving language. Learn to fucking read.

Wrong again.

2. Double votes means potential double hammers! But to avoid too much swinginess only the first double-hammer will be counted. Thereafter if two people are on -1 and a player votes both of them

only the first person named in the players vote-post will be lynched

.

Read the bolded.

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Game-specific Rule #2 clearly states that there is a potential for a double-hammer, and that only the first instance of such will be acknowledged. Thereafter, there is the possibility of only one hammer per day.

Please, people, it's a game

about

intensely involving language. Learn to fucking read.

Wrong again.

2. Double votes means potential double hammers! But to avoid too much swinginess only the first double-hammer will be counted. Thereafter if two people are on -1 and a player votes both of them

only the first person named in the players vote-post will be lynched

.

Read the bolded.

Damnit why do the words 'therefore' and 'thereafter' look so alike... nvm there can be a double hammer after all...

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Yeah Nintendo is scum with Whiskers.
Voided is the third buddy.

This is brilliant.

I'm scum because I misread one word?

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Nope. You're scum for plenty of reasons.
The fact that you were so adamantly denying that we had a double lynch despite the evidence against your reading suggests you were trying to mislead.
Whiskers "coming to your rescue" exacerbates this connection.

I misread the sentence and even said so.

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But you were still going on about if even after I'd pointed it out to you.
That's not misreading it once and admitting your mistake.
That's denying the evidence and trying to misdirect everyone else.

Because I thought the second rule meant that only the first vote in the post would make a lynch. As it turns out, it meant that only the first doublehammer would make a double lynch.

I wasn't denying anything, I just misunderstood the rule.

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Thoughts on a double hammer today? Two of: {Me/Whiskers/Voided}?

I don't think we should even use the double lynch yet. At least wait until D2 when we have some flips.

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"For towns 1v1s are a great deal."
What?

Also, I'm pretty sure I AM supporting your lynch. Am I somehow Not supporting your lynch? I meant to be.

Unvote, unvote.

Vote: Nopony Special
Vote: AuVox

Whoa, dejavu. Because, I unvoted my votes and then voted for the exact same players.

I think he meant that for Town, losing 1 town and 1 scum is good.

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Nin made it look like he had a good reason to vote for KJ in pre-game. He even placed a vote before we were allowed, that's how much he wanted to look useful.
I say "look useful" rather than "be useful" because when the game started, he never put his vote down on KJ.
Why not? I can't see ANY reason for town to do that. If he's found something scummy, vote it (same as Whiskers). If he's not, then WHY was he voting with reasons at the start? I don't really know what ad hom means but I assume it's something to do with KJ's scummy behaviour regarding hiphop in pre-game. In effect, it's as though he's saying KJ was scummy pre-game but not worthy of a vote when the game actually got going. It doesn't make sense from town. At all.

If you don't even know what ad hom is, why are you calling people scummy for placing a vote pre-game based on ad hom but then not following up on it after game start?

FYI, ad hom is using pictures/memes etc. which kj was doing on page two, thus, I placed a vote on him. Whether the game had started or not, it was an RVS vote. A concept which you seem to find difficult to understand. In case you didn't know, RVS stands for Random Voting Stage. The vote was random. Meaning I didn't vote for him because I though it was scummy. I voted for him because I don't like ad hom.

I don't know how many more times I have to say this to you and frankly I'm getting tired of it. It was not a serious vote.

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Why don't you like ad hom?

Because it does nothing to move the game forward.

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Is his definition of ad hom wrong then?

Anyway, if you've voted someone for doing something you dislike, the vote is no longer random.

Well I guess someone told me the wrong definition, then.

Yes, it is. Even RVS votes have reasons. But they are never game-related.

Example:

"I'm voting you because you are in a lot of games with me."
"I'm voting you because nintendo sucks."
"I'm voting you because you have numbers in your name."

Those are reasons, but they are also random.

Vote Hiraki

because he's evil.

That was an RVS vote. See how I did it?

Oh lord we're only on page two and there's ad hom...

vote killerjester

Regardless of whether or not it was ad hom(which I guess it wasn't) I still don't like it when people use pictures like that. That does not mean I think posting pictures like that makes someone scum.

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You said pictures delay the game.
Delaying the game from progressing benefits scum.

The game hadn't even started yet. You can't delay something that hasn't started.

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?
You voted.
You sure as hell were acting as though the game had started.

How many times do I need to explain this.

It doesn't matter that the game hadn't started yet, the vote was RVS.

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You're using the fact the game hadn't started to defend against my point.
So it does matter.

You can't delay something that hasn't started.

I hope people are beginning to see why Nintendo is scum.

I said that about ad hom delaying the game. That has nothing to do with me voting before the game started. Those are two completely different subjects. Quit misrepping and start scumhunting.

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You're using the fact the game hadn't started to defend against my point.
So it does matter.

You can't delay something that hasn't started.

I hope people are beginning to see why Nintendo is scum.

I said that about ad hom delaying the game. That has nothing to do with me voting before the game started. Those are two completely different subjects. Quit misrepping and start scumhunting.

AND YOU SAID THAT AD HOM WAS USING PICTURES

CHRIST PEOPLE LOOK AT THIS SCUMBAG SQUIRM

"Ad hom = posting pictures"
"Posting pictures delays the game"
"Quit misrepping, I didn't mean that posting pictures delayed the game I meant that ad hom delays the game"

ITS SO FUCKING OBVIOUS

Let me tell you one last time.

I said posting pictures(which I thought was the definition of ad hom) delays the game.
That had nothing to do with the fact that I made an RVS vote before the game started. You're twisting the two things together.

Unvote Voided, Vote AurorsuVox

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Am I still voting Voided? :S

Unvote: Voided,
Vote: nintendoaddict

UNVOTE: Voided
VOTE: nintendoaddict

Unvote: NS
Vote: Nintendoaddict

I'm calling the scumteam.

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I'm town

I really love it when people do this.

Actually, that's a lie, I can't stand it when people call themselves town. But I see it all the time.

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And for the record Aurorus I don't even understand your 'case' anymore, it's just too hard to see through the bullshit.

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Why do some games move faster that I can keep up with while others barely move at all? Not that I'm complaining, it lets me keep up... but there's nothing to keep up with at this point.

Mod can we get a vote count please?

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Hey dash.

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I don't even know what to say, Dash... that gambit to catch careless scum only makes you look bad. And by bad I mean scummy.

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But not scummy enough to vote her?

Didn't have time for a full post at the time. I have to go back and re-read the last couple of pages.

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Wall a la ketchup:

Nintendo is still scum though, which is my top pick. Not happy enough to have a second vote out, would prefer if I was able to just not use it. All the second vote is going to do is allow ponies to keep large wagons on ponies that aren't top picks. Pretty sure what im forcing now will prove it

I don't think you've yet said why you think I am scum. So, why do you think I am scum?

I am actually going to shift my votes with this one, as Nintendo for his Gambit and wtf Nopony for voting Dash. My opinion on Dash may change, but right now, he is looking the cleanest of everyone. He seems to be the only one actually hunting out the scum.

Unvote, Unvote.

Vote: Nintendo, Vote: Nobody Special

Remind me, cause this game is moving slowly, what gambit was that?

I don't even know what to say, Dash... that gambit to catch careless scum only makes you look bad. And by bad I mean scummy.

Why does it make him look scummy?

Like it was said before by I don't remember who, it is a distraction. Distractions are antitown.

side note how do you multi-quote a single post? im used to a different BBC code and i cant seem to make it work like it want it to.

You can copy/paste the quote tags and duplicate it that way. That is, if you mean you want to quote the same post at least twice.

How so? I've been willing to double lynch my scumreads along with myself. At least that way I get to take one of you down with me. vOv

Nintendo should be today's lynch. Whether that's with or without me going down too.

So, now you don't want to go 1v1? You sound like scum trying to save face late in the day.

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@nintendo - That post lacked a top pick. Who is your primary vote?

I don't see the point of picking a top scumpick in a doublevote game.

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God, you're a pushy bitch.

Im gunna love and tolerate you anyway.

The game needs actions forced. Getting to the bottom of who actually is everyponies top picks is something that needs to be on records.

@nintendo - Im going to love tolerate and lynch you.

This information will change the way we look at votecounts, for example the Whiskers wagon. It doesn't exist in the primary vote count. Yet its the third biggest wagon. Thats something worth noticing, it looks like the VM wagon is similar at this point. Answer or there is no way im letting you live today, if you want to test me on this I dare you to try it.

You still have not answered me. Why do you think I am scum?

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Im going to assume AV though since you arent doing anything to get NS lynched.

So, when someone doesn't answer you, you make up your own choice for them? What was the point of even asking in the first place if you are going to do that?

Unvote NS, Vote Rainbowboy

You still want to assume who is my top vote? How do you know I don't find two people equally scummy?

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Because you didn't say anything.

Maybe answer. Hiraki, could you please put nintendoaddict at L-1? I want to try something.

I did say something, I said there was no point in picking a top vote in a double vote game

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So why nintendo is scum.

First there was the mention of ad hom, he calls it justification to throw out a RVS vote which he later using different logic for, but I don't like this. There is no point in pointing out that something is ad hom if he doesn't plan to follow up on it really or sees it as important to the game at all since it will only add clutter.

After that though he does

nothing

at all. Absolutely nothing, the entire game.

There is a one sentance post about VM.
There is a little nudge at NS for pushing on Whiskers

So is it nothing? Or have I said two things? It can't be both.
Also, it's called having a job and not being online as much as I used to be.

I mean, the most this pony has had to say about anything was him not understanding that there could be double lynches.

So much for your "absolutely nothing" argument.

Also im going to assume whatever I want if you aren't going to give me the information I need to work with here, especially when you fail to counter my arguements of why you need to give me this first.

You will assume nothing, as you are in effect fabricating your own results thus nullifying the purpose of whatever it is you were trying to accomplish, and putting words in my mouth.

To tl;dr on nintendo since its very simple

1) He does not scumhunt
2) The majority of his votes are OMGUS
3) KJ ad hom move

Explain how my votes are OMGUS.

This is not "VI-town" from him. I have skimmed a couple games from him and he makes some attempts as town. I see no attempt here since his biggest case boils down to "no you are wrong".

Like I said, I have not been online as much these days.

Nintendo, I explicitly say that if your lynch requires me to go down too, I'd be happy to oblige.

So says the guy not in any danger of being lynched. Sounds like scum trying to get townpoints near the end of the day.

It tells me that we're

not both town

.

No, we're not. You're scum.

If we were both town, you can DAMN SURE GUARANTEE that scum would have subtly pushed support for a double mislynch. But the support hasn't been there. Because this isn't TvT.

Scum have daytalk, you could have easily told your buddies to stay quiet if there was talk of a double town lynch.

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Fascinating.

Unvote. Unvote.

Vote: NintendoAddict1. Vote: Friend Maresil.

somepony hammer.

Gonna give any reasons? Or are you just gonna let scum hammer?

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Pretty much. Analyze the flip.

Where does it say that town has Daytalk? First post?

If you meant where does it say scum have daytalk, it's in post 2, rule 8.

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Was unexpectedly without Internet for a couple of days. Will post a vote count later today.

How bout that vote count, sir?

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Refusing to vote (1) - Nintendo

So... what happened to "I'm going to assume whatever I want to assume because you won't answer"? What changed your mind?

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So Alana is really challenging for that top spot for me right now.

If I die tonight, especially if nintendo is scum, you ponies

ARE

lynching them tomorrow.

Yes, ma'am.

Hey look! It's RainbowDash, now with 20% more attitude.

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Does that mean I can quick hammer Nintendo?

No. You can't. Wanna know why?

Unvote AurorusVox, Vote nintendoaddict1

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Nin, I hope to god you're scum.

I don't know why people call me 'nin'. nintendo I can handle. NA1 too.