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I'm guessing that:
Microphone_Kirby (5)- Pear Bear, ortolan, OhGodMyLife, Sipylus, Green Crayons
raider8169 (3)- Plum, Septia, Talitha
Seraphim (3)- CounselWolf, sirdanilot, Slicey
One of these three players is scum, and being bus'ed.
I'll check again at end game. Here's my wager. If I'm wrong, I'll replace in 3 games. If I'm right, I'll mod a game.Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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If we lynch him, it will be a lesson well learned.OhGodMyLife wrote:Protip: Saying "Well the random stage is over so unvote" and not doing anything else is scummy.
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On page 6, it's an excellent reason. Besides, I like to pressure these kinds of players, and he's opened the door.raider8169 wrote:
Your willing to lynch someone over just that?DrippingGoofball wrote:
If we lynch him, it will be a lesson well learned.OhGodMyLife wrote:Protip: Saying "Well the random stage is over so unvote" and not doing anything else is scummy.
unvote, vote: SliceyParaphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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I was thinking of something along of lines of Prison Riot Mafia.Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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OK I just came back from a concert and picked up my prod. I have some catching up to do here, I got caught up with drama in other games.Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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M_K is just wild. Even I have trouble wrapping my head around it...Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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WHOA!!!! Hey guys we caught more scum!Santos wrote:Yes, I am semi-lurking, but I am not hesitating to post; I just don't have much to add at the moment as most of the discussion usually works itself out. I'm in no hurry to lynch anyone: If a decision needs to be made, then I don't mind being the deciding vote...Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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Yeah.Santos wrote:Yes, I am semi-lurking, but I am not hesitating to post; I just don't have much to add at the moment as most of the discussion usually works itself out. I'm in no hurry to lynch anyone: If a decision needs to be made, then I don't mind being the deciding vote...
Admits to lurking but calls it 'semi' lurking. Says he doesn't have much to add, but waits by the sidelines for discussions to 'work themselves out' without input from him, whatever he means by 'discussions working themselves out.'
However, this wimp who has, by his own admission, little to say, is willing to hammer.
ANYBODY.
He's waiting for the discussion to work itself out, ie,get to lynch minus one. Right? That's the gist of it.
And when we're at lynch minus one, whoever is being lynched, he's willing to hammer. It doesn't matter who. As long as it's not him.
He's just Mr. Silent-Semilurker-Hammer. When we need a hammer, he'll be there. But not for anything else. For anything but the hammer, count him out. He just doesn't have much to say.
I'm sorry folks but this is scum all the way.
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I believe that the question was meant for Santos.raider8169 wrote:
It not always a scum tell as townies do it as well however he response to it means a lot. It is lynch worth on a first day as I think we will get ride of an unproductive member and set a precedence for all lurkers. Granted after the first day I tend to post more as I have more to go off from and the votes are something I can start looking into.Microphone_Kirby wrote:Ditto. What do you have to say to DGB's accusation, Mr. Silent-Semilurker-Hammer?
Did that answer your question or were you looking for something different?
It's interesting how you feel it applies to you enough that you would not recognize this obvious fact.Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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So you were being honest about having nothing to say, but being willing to hammer anybody.Santos wrote:Catching up on the next page I notice a lot of people would rather vote for me being honest as opposed to posting some BS excuse that I can't read a forum thread of a few pages and will do so in several days from now. Pathetic.
Great!Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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The above is a very important post, and vote. If Santos flips scum, hp[leaves] has a heightened probability of being Santos' buddy.Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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...given that the risk of putting Santos at minus one only means that he'll have to claim. hp [leaves] may be trying to keep Santos out of claiming range.
However, hp [leaves] switched from the main competing wagon (MK) to Santos, so that's a little less damning.Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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I realized I might have rushed to judgment, see my post #264 on this very page.sirdanilot wrote:This santos bandwagon is not only awesome because santos is probably scum, just look at the huge amount of information on the bandwagon itself. DGB, I don't really see your point why hp west in particular would be so extremely scummy when Santos flips scum.Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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He has to hammer or get modkilled?
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Phew, good one.Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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The last time I was in a game where someone claimed that they had to hammer (to get special powers), I was a Jesterbomb. He was, in fact, scum. He hammered me, I won, and he died along with me.Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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More importantly, what happens if he hammers himself?Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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Flameaxe made an appearance late in the wagon but declined to vote. He paid no attention to Santos' earlier scummy posts, and even mildly defended Santos. I'm a bit divided on that one given my belief that if Flameaxe had been Santos' buddy, he would have bus'ed him so hard our heads would spin.
OGML was resisting the Santos wagon by continuing to be very aggressive on the M_K wagon. It's like he was screaming to us, "No!!! Look HERE!!! Lynch M_K! What are you guys doing! M_K! M_K!" OK that's a bit of hyperbole for humor's sake. But then he switched to Santos anyway, when it looked like Santos' lynch was inevitable.
Something funny I noticed with Setanta. It's nothing major, but look at THIS POST. It was glaringly obvious that Santos had revealed that he had a safeclaim. Setanta's reaction is odd, given that he was one of the first on the Santos wagon. He may have had second thoughts about bus'ing his partner - that's the thought that comes to mind.Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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Concerning Pear Bear. He wrote: "I was hesitant to post because my random vote for MK seemed to have been a decent pick in the first place, and I was assessing what everyone else was thinking to determine if I wanted to keep my vote on MK or not. "
Hesitation to post = scum.
Assessing what everyone is thinking to decide where you place your vote = scum.
Newbie scum random vote = often a vote on your buddy.Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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And what about Septia???
Check out THIS POST. He says he's not lurking, though he clearly is. His comments on the Santos wagon are gems.
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He never did catch up.Septia wrote:Sorry for inactivity, I've been pretty busy. Will get into it tomorrow and catch up.
ON JANUARY 26:
He suggests that mafia would be too careful to make such a slip? That's interesting, because that was hardly a slip, but rather, a huge unintentional scumtell. Septia claims that he needs to read back, but never does. He never even commented on the competing M_K wagon.Septia wrote:The bandwaggon on Santos has been too fast for my liking, and I understand the case on him, but mafia would be more careful to not make a slip up like that. I'm basing this off page 10 alone though,still need to read back.
I'm going to hold back from lynching Santos right now until I see more from him. Will read back now and give my thoughts/ suspicions.
So this lurker has the nerve to show up and express his displeasure at the speed of a SCUMWAGON. He makes excuses for said scum, wants to hear more from him, and never read back or gave thoughts or suspicions.Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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Looking a hp[leaves]. THIS POST is interesting. He totally caught on Santos' mistake where he practically admitted to having a safeclaim. But hp[leaves] refrained from hammering. Why on Earth would a player refrain from hammering a player he believes has a SAFECLAIM, for cryin' out loud? What does it take for you to hammer somebody?
Going backwards in time, hp[leaves] said: "I like the pressure on Santos; but I don't think he's that scummy to have another vote on." It's like hp[leaves]really really really doesn't want that poor Santos to have another vote on... even after he slips up that he has a safeclaim!
Again, going back in time, hp[leaves]declined to honor the Santos wagon with his presence, rather he went against the prevailing wind to cast a vote on OGML. Given OMGL's own reactions to the Santos wagon, which is to browbeat us to lynch M_K instead, I suggest that hp[leaves] might have been doing some safe distancing from OGML. I don't recall OGML having any votes at the time. That vote was a weird move.Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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Why Azhrei? Why Jebus?Plum wrote:Possible Santos Scumbuddies:
Azhrei
Flameaxe
hp [leaves] - less suspicious
Jebus
OGML - less suspicious
Septia - less suspicious
Setanta
Why are OGML, Septia and Setantalesssuspicious? I have to ask, because they topmylist.Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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Pear Bear has done some scummy stuff as I outlined in an earlier post, but his question isn't all that surprising given that he's a noob.Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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Is OGML keeping a low profile in the hope that we'll forget about him and build cases against players that are currently more active?Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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Yeah what are they saying?OhGodMyLife wrote:Scum must have had a field day in their qt discussing how they were gonna lynch me today.Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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Hey Hybris, just for my curiosity. Who is the mod in this game?Hybris wrote:
Uh... I don't get it. Why do people make posts like this? Its decently scummy and doesn't actually throw any content in. Also, its followed about 90% of the time by them not actually putting the said review up. *Getting it out of my system*Simenon wrote:I am here and will update shortly. Sorry all.Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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OGML's strategic lurking, when in jeopardy, confirms that he is scum.
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I'll explain it. OGML is trying to suggest that his strategic lurking is a form of scum hunting.Microphone_Kirby wrote:
Um...... you lost me here. Can you explain that inOhGodMyLife wrote:Plum, of all of those scrambling to find the right/easiest lynch in the wake of the Santos lynch, you're the only one who seemed to actually be trying to do soin a way diagnostic of alignmentbased on yesterday's play.simplerterms?
He's going to lurk while we wagon him, and then at the end of the day, he'll call scum on most of the players on his own lynch.
Besides calling Plum 'town,' he seems to be carefully avoiding association or disassociation with players - possibly to give us as little to work with tomorrow as possible, if he flips scum.Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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Good catch.Microphone_Kirby wrote:
... If you say so. How would I know... or, true or not, why should I care?Talitha wrote:OGML is a good / well-known player...
Really......?Talitha wrote:...in a game that's likely to have more than one killing group. I doubt he'll still be alive at endgame. We don't need to waste a lynch on him.
Geez... this post is giving me some really bad vibes...
In other news, since I see nothing noticeably scummy about Azhrei, or even nothing noticeable about Azhrei, I can't help but think Azhrei is being bus'ed.Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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Really. I assumed that the game has pre-cooked sushi against raw sushi. Why would you think otherwise, ESPECIALLY since THERE WAS ONLY ONE NIGHTKILL????Talitha wrote:Why likely? Because it is always likely that a 24 player game has more than one killing party. And then we have Santos named as a "pre-cooked" goon - which is suggestive (but not conclusive) of other scum.Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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Does it, really? I understood it to mean that we were authentic raw sushi against a pre-cooked sushi mafia. What other kind of sushi would be scummy? Maybe I should study Japanese restaurant menus.ortolan wrote:And I agree that the prefix "Precooked" suggests there may well be multiple mafia factions anyhow...Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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I don't see the case against Azhrei, so at the moment I'm suspicious of the players that are making what appears to be a bogus case against Azhrei.
Really I don't get it. Can someone explain it to me?Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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ORLY. We already have one scum on day 1, we have tons of info to find that scum's buddies, and you want us searching blindly for a second scumgroup that may or may not exist, when there was a SINGLE nightkill? What I find scummy are people that seem to KNOW there is a second scumgroup, something that there is no legitimate hint of so far.OhGodMyLife wrote:
Why is your biggest concern right now making sure everyone stops looking for a theoretical second scumgroup, hmm?DrippingGoofball wrote:
Does it, really? I understood it to mean that we were authentic raw sushi against a pre-cooked sushi mafia. What other kind of sushi would be scummy? Maybe I should study Japanese restaurant menus.ortolan wrote:And I agree that the prefix "Precooked" suggests there may well be multiple mafia factions anyhow...
See, I'm town, and I don't give a rat's tutu which brand of scum dies, as long as it's scum. And since we got lucky and hit scum on Day 1, it's easiest to find scum associated with the dead scumbag. I'm not worried, if there's a second scumgroup, we'll find evidence of it soon enough. And when we do, we'll go after that second scum group.
OMGL is trying to send us on a wild goose chase. I'd understand his concerns if we were in mid game. But we're on Day 2.Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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Thanks MK, I see the case.
Well.
If they have done the same, why pick Azhrei over OGML, or vice versa?Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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Tragically, that's a big boatload of WIFOM.Talitha wrote:Pushing hard for a lynch is something that town have a lot more reason to do than scum, and it is a weak reason to vote someone
I've seen my buddies be relentless against a fellow buddy; I have seen buddies tunneling on a townie because they felt they had a believable fake scumtell, and look like they are genuinely scumhunting while lynching a townie.
What you say appears logical, and in many ways, it is. However, my experience tells me that scum very often has motives that override your theory.Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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Also. Good deduction.Slicey wrote: Plus, Talitha, scum would push hard for town lynches in order to save their own ass and their scumbuddy's asses. >_>
You keep pushing me to make a case against Flameaxe.OhGodI'mScum wrote:@DGB: Flameaxe?
It's surreal.
Why are you pushing ME and not someone else? Why Flameaxe as opposed to another lurker? If you think there's a case to be made, why don't you make it yourself? You totally sound like someone who knows other people's alignments and is trying to concoct some evil mastermind manipulation. You smell very strongly of 'informed minority' and 'puppet master.'Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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I also love the above. Once again, you sound like someone who knows a heckuvalot more more than I do. You seem very sure that there are two scumgroups - there was ONE nightkill! Even with two nightkills, I'd suspect a scumgroup and an SK before jumping to the conclusion of two scumgroups, and jumping the gun with two separate scumlists, on Day 2.OhGodLynchMe wrote:Lets see, to sum up - there is very likely more than one mafia group. DGB is in it. Its probably got most of Flameaxe, Pear Bear, Ortolan, M_K and raider in it.
Also scummy, somewhat independent of the DGB nucleus of evil, are Narsis, Azhrei, Slicey and most significantly Riceballtail, who hasn't done anything today.
What this allows you, OhGodPuppetMaster, is to cast a very wide net. You are naming TEN players as scum, for a total of eleven counting the dead scum Santos. Eleven out of 24. I don't think that anyone would believe that we have that many scum, but your suspect list is unusually large, and poorly focused, in stark contrast with your near-certainty of the presence of two scumgroups, without considering an SK instead.
This suggests that you are part of an informed minority, and that you are one of a small scumgroup. For instance, you may be three in your scumgroup, which would be small for a 24 player game. Therefore, it would seem unlikely to you that a second nightkilling faction would consist of a mere SK. You would expect, with your knowledge of the existence of your, say, 3-person scumgroup in a game of 24 players, a second mafia group.Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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Highly unlikely. However, if OGML is part of say, a 3-member scumgroup without exceptional powers, it would be logical for him to highly suspect a second scumgroup.Pear Bear wrote:If there were two scum groups, how likely would it be that they know eachothers identities?
Nothing I said suggested that mafiates in a game with two scum groups know the members of the other scumteam. All I'm sayin', is that OGML seems to know that another scumteam exists. And he would know that, if his scumteam has fewer members than expected from a game this size.Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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I'm saying that pushing hard for a lynch is neither a scumtell, nor a towntell; so it's a nulltell. It depends on who is being bandwagon'ed, who is on the competing bandwagon, and what the reasons are for pushing the lynch.Farkshinsoup wrote:DGB, you call this out as WIFOM (rightly so, I think), but then you say, in a weaselly sort of way, that in fact "pushing hard for a lynch" is a mild scumtell (and this is one of the reasons that you are voting for OGML). Either it's WIFOM (which makes it a nulltell, and poor justification for a lynch) or it's a scumtell. Which is it?
Talitha on the other hand believes that pushing hard for a lynch is a town tell. I disagreed.
I am voting for OGML for many reasons, some further reasons having occurred after my vote. I'm not voting for him because he pushed hard on M_K. I'm voting for him because as we were lynching a scumbag, he kept trying to keep the M_K wagon alive and kicking, but then, last minute, decided to switch to Santos. We don't know M_K's alignment, but the wagon was, in my opinion, wholly unconvincing. OGML's rabid attempts to get the town back on the M_K wagon were out of proportion with the M_K scumtells, and the ease with which OGML switched to the Santos wagon, when Santos' lynch looked inevitable, was unsettling.
Other reasons include his strategic lurking, followed by a wide-blanket OGMUS baseless scumlist with nearly half the players, and some manipulative gambit to try to get me to turn my attention to Flameaxe. It's all very weird, and it certainly isn't town.
Note that, following his massive OMGUS, he's back to being lurkish. Popping up to tell me to look more closely at Flameaxe is the scumcherry on the scumsundae.Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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I hear it's addictive.Pear Bear wrote:EBWOP:
Also, Ive had a Ponzu sushi before.
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The addictive sauce mafia? Hahahahah I have to remember that for the next Food Fight game...OhGodMyLife wrote:Are you two trying to find reasons for my role to be mafia?Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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What is your opinion on this terminal wagon, Talitha? I would have expected you to comment on OGML's claim, his defense, lack thereof, etc. As in, hammer, or state that you don't want to vote against OGML for some reason or another.Talitha wrote:It might count. It might also be the lynching vote..., several people have voted for OGML since he was on 6 votes a few pages back. We really need a vote count.Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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I get that, but it's still casting a wide net of suspicion over many players. And now you've added sirdanilot to the long list.OhGodMyLife wrote:And for those of you who seem to be intimating that I am literally calling every single person I named scum, I know you're all smarter than that. No there aren't 11 scum in this game, those are the people I'm suspicious of.
I'd be more confident that you might be town had you made actual cases against sirdanilot and RBT. Looks to me like lazy scum maximizing confusion while going down in flames...Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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Fair enough. Can you then explain why Azhrei (and the other person you voted for today) are MORE scummy than OGML? I'd like comparisons.Talitha wrote:DGB, have you paid attention to anything I've posted? My opinions on the wagon haven't changed. I haven't seen anything scummy or lynch-worthy from OGML. I think the case against him is rubbish. I am sorta resigned to the lynch but I will not support it. If he turns out to be scum I will be surprised (but not amazed as I've been wrong on occasion).Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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Thank you, you said it better than me. I asked Talitha to compare Azhrei with OGML, because I wanted to understand why she's finding Azhrei scummy, and OMGL town enough to staunchly withhold her vote today, when we are getting hotly close to deadline.sirdanilot wrote:
1, 2 - OGML did these as well, towards the end. No reason to suspect ogmlTalitha a couple posts earlier wrote: I made myself pretty clear already, but I'll humour you.
Day 1: (1)Bandwagoner, follower, (2)voting on the easy-looking lynches, (3)simplistic conditional suspicions (e.g. "if X flips Y, I'm going to Z") that demonstrate lack of townish diligence, and fit best a scum looking to cruise.
Day 2: Again on the easy wagon du jour. Reasons for voting OGML - the "turnaround" appear hypocritical, seeing as Azhrei did the same turnaround. The difference given is that OGML was pushing harder for the M-K lynch before the turnaround, but pushing hard for a lynch is something that town have much more reason than scum to do, and it is a weak reason to vote someone.at all
[...] but still I am appalled at how you can say that OGML has dropped no scumtells at all, and I still don't see at all how you can find Azhrei more scummy than OGML.Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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Anything but OGML?sirdanilot wrote:talitha why?Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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We are dangerously close to a no-lynch. Talitha's voting is especially perplexing.Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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Ask Talitha.OhGodMyLife wrote:
Somebody just lynch me already. I'm going V/LA for the next few days as it is, and its not worth arguing when your lynch is foreordained.Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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Which may result in no-lynch.Slicey wrote:Talitha's vote doesn't surprise me at all. She truly thinks that OGML isn't scum, so I guess she was voting for the next best lynch, Pear Bear.Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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Alright, I'll pick on CounselWolf tomorrow then.Talitha wrote:And DGB go find someone else to hassle relentlessly. I can't see any point in getting into a back and forth with you. Arguing over things that we obviously just disagree on is less than helpful to the town.Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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FTR, although I don't understand Talitha's thinking, I think most players would agree that she's one of the towniest players in the game.Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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Talitha might have investigated OGML and got an innocent...Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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Does this sound like a guilty result?Talitha wrote:I'm really busy at the moment but wanted to check in to raise an eyebrow at the OGML votes. Haven't played with him before but my gut says town so far.
Oh and
vote: flameaxe
Maybe just a placeholder until I can assess some of the other voteworthy candidates. Maybe not.Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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Since Talitha's a confirmed, dead townie, I would say that there may now be increased merit in her case against Azhrei. I'll take a closer look tomorrow.Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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Well OGML behaved in a way that made him a prime investigation target for the cop. So I'm going to venture that Talitha, being a clever player and all, investigated the scummiest player on Day 1, which was, hands down, OGML.Slicey wrote:Oh. Well, I find it more likely that she scanned Az guilty than scanning OGML innocent.
I'm also going to guess that, having a innocent result on OGML, she scanned down her list of suspects for the next scummiest player. And there she found Flameaxe and Azhrei.Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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I agree; I don't think she had a guilty on Azhrei or Flameaxe, because she spent her investigation on OGML.sirdanilot wrote:Premise: Talitha was the COP.
Premise: Talitha found Azhrei and Flameaxe SCUMMY.
Conclusion: We should look very closely at Azhrei and Flameaxe since they are now SUSPICIOUS.Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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I was just looking at Flameaxe's posts, in isolation. He's lurking massively. The two players that tried to draw attention to Flameaxe weren't bus'ing, which was in the back of my mind, they were both townies.
And no one else brought up Flameaxe. Maybe as it turns out, his buddies don't mind Flameaxe's lurking.
Let's rattle the scum's cage:
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Hmmm, I didn't consider that possibility.sirdanilot wrote:I do in fact think that she has either investigated Azhrei or Flameaxe. I find it personally rather unlikely for her to have investigated OGML because she never mentioned him as a suspect day 1. Why would she investigate someone she didn't suspect in the slightest? I just don't see why she would.Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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That's a very astute observation. It may be why she was under the impression that we may have two scum factions. On the other hand, OGML also thought we may have two scum factions, and he had no reason to believe that.Setanta wrote:Also note that Talitha was a knife cop, is this different than a regular cop, or does the prefix indicate the type of mafia she could find?Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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Slicey's case is most excellent.
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