Please always vote us before voting someone else, thanks.
p-edit: CHESS GET YOUR VOTE ON US THANKS. YOU TOO GANDALF.
implosion wrote:VOTE: Soben
gandalf and WC and ABR are all probably town.
ABR, why would you advocate what is essentially a form of massclaiming in a game where we have been specifically told by the moderator that massclaiming will be harmful?
Soben wrote:chesskid3 wrote:is chesskid town too?
PEDIT: IceyCupcake, I'm more than willing to listen to your opinions I just have no intent on voting you unless I see reasonable evidence that proves that it's worth doing so.
Soben wrote:chesskid3 wrote:is chesskid town too?
Not getting the 'obvtown' read I normally get from you, though certaintly not getting a scumread either. I'm interested in hearing GI's thoughts he knows your meta far better than I do.
PEDIT: IceyCupcake, I'm more than willing to listen to your opinions I just have no intent on voting you unless I see reasonable evidence that proves that it's worth doing so.
Pine wrote:Not arguing with you about this anymore, Gandalf. They don't share the Town wincon, so I refuse to help them towards whatever goal they have. I intend to see whatever threat they may pose expunged through the damage mechanic or an outright vig kill.
This isn't third party hunting, GI. This is you declaring an extraordinarily suspicious statement right off the bat, telling people your role is jester-like, and thereafter giving only very suspect or very obvious reads.
Pine wrote:IceyCupcake wrote:We are jester-like.
Please always vote us before voting someone else, thanks.
p-edit: CHESS GET YOUR VOTE ON US THANKS. YOU TOO GANDALF.
Page One, FYI. Size of most important bit enlarged.
PE: The flip-flopping you've done on me (Scum, Town, Null-Town, Scum) is suspect. FOS on Gandalf, who is coming off more and more as misguided (and duped) Town is suspect. FOS on Soben is super-obv.
Chesskid, what's your deal? I know you're fishing for reactions, but if you're actually serious, posting a case usually helps.
Katy wrote:Pine is so emotional about this I almost feel he has to be town losing it. I think scum would have dropped it rather than make this point about Icey such a big issue and draw so much attention (and votes).
Personally, I don't see what's so awful about following Icey for the first day. If they have a helpful ability, then it's worth it. If this is some kind of scum ploy then the first day is the time to expose it. There is no way that a moderator puts this much effort into a game and then gives someone an ability that could end the game on day one. That kind of paranoia isn't going to get us anywhere. It's valid not to trust Icey but inflating it into an issue of epic proportions is not helpful to town, if you really are town.
Still waiting for implosion to come and post some relevant content.
Pine wrote:I've used my (weak) attack power on IceyCupcake. I encourage everyone who is (wisely) fearful of their waffling between Town-neutral third-party and anti-Town scumminess to do the same.
Pine wrote:It isn't the first time. I've consistently said that you're some sort of third party or gambiting scum. I've repeatedly noted and pointed out the flaws in your story.
Pine wrote:The waffling is the waffling in your claims. You can't stick to a claim to save your life.
Amrun wrote:Icey, thoughts on Beefster?
Soben wrote:Implosion wrote: Basically, if Soben thinks Icey is town, Soben has little reason not to vote Icey like Icey asks because Icey clearly has reason that they can't reveal for asking for votes. If Soben's reason not to vote is the stated above, then I've debunked that. If it's because Soben isn't sure if Icey is town, there's still little reason not to because Soben has a townread on Icey, meaning it's more likely that there will be positive effects from voting Icey than negitave effects.
You really want to continue pushing this? I see the possibly of roles such as a cult-recruiter who is only allowed to recuit if he obtains x number of votes a day in the game thus there are indeed risks to voting him while no risks in not doing so.
Albert B. Rampage wrote:IceyCupcake wrote:RBT is normally an aggressive player.
That doesn't represent my experience with RBT at all.
Amrun wrote:If it wasn't a modkill and all abilities resolve at the end of the phase, then what the hell was it?