Cultural Revolution is Over!
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Follow Mao Zedong Thought!
Vote: Bacdebecause obviously, he doesn't follow the great Mao Zedong.-
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Question, Yosarian: Were you forced to post *ALL* of the post restriction sentences, or did you just feel like doing it for whatever reason?Yosarian2 wrote:I'm not sure if the posting restriction we got actually means anything, probably not, but just in case...
<Snip Lots Of Post Restriction Requirements>
Possible follow-up question: If you weren't forced to post every single one of those, why would you post all of them? Also, which one(s) were you forced to post?-
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Hmmm, I'll buy that for now. My first impression was that you posted all of them because you had a shady reason to hide which one is your real restriction. Which I'm not going to drop completely, but I'm not going to pursue it at the moment.-
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...keep in mind that some of these "posting restrictions" have likely been faked. At least, that's my guess at the moment.
In fact, I've got my first suspected restriction-faker.Unvote, Vote: Twomz
It's "Communist Manifesto," not "Communist Manafesto." If you're going to fake a posting restriction, at least spell it right.-
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*Beats things savagely*
I've nothing else to add right now, except that I'm not completely sold on Twomz's explanation yet. I'll leave my vote on until something else substantial happens. Until then, I'm pretty happy with where it is.-
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For the record, I don't like the Post Restriction listing/analysis either. A comprehensive list makes things easier for mafiates to look at and analyze. Mafiates analyzing quotes might lead to patterns and/or role information. Mafiates having role information is a bad thing.FoS: Supporters of the Restriction discussion/analysis-
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....no, bandwagoning is not considered okay. Not in any circumstances, at least. It's pretty apparent that you faked/posted the "restriction" to fit in with everyone else. What your motives were for doing so are unclear, but I don't trust your claim at all right now. Like I said before, my vote stands.-
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....huh? Whatever gave you that impression? I distinctly feel that the quotes are *NOT* useless, which is whyVaughn wrote:Tamuz,Glork, bacde, CES, and you are the ones who think the quotes are useless.I don't want the town blindly guessing at what they (might) mean on DAY ONE.-
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So basically what you're saying is, "Twomz is scum but since I'm his scumbuddy, I'm going to give him yet another post to allow him to bail himself out." ;P-
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Are you looking for anCogito Ergo Sum wrote:There's little reason to be careful day 1 of such a big game if you're active. You'll always have time to unvote if you don't like how a bandwagon is developping.
Look:unvote, vote: Glork.Unvote, Vote: Glorkbandwagon?
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Mostly I wanted to bandwagon myself to force myself to claim, but then I decided that'd be a bad idea. ;PAmeliaslay wrote:
Care to back your vote up, scum?Glork wrote:...well in that case,Unvote, Vote: Twomz.-
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...and then I realized you were quoting the other post. I explained my suspicions regarding Twomz a while ago. I think he faked a posting restriction as a scumbag, then tried to cover it up. IIRC in fact, I'm the one who brought that to attention.-
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No. It wasn't obvious. I wouldn't have singled Twomz out if I didn't think he was doing it for dubious reasons.thedocsalive wrote:
It's clear that he's joking here. Obviously Hitler has no direct relationship to the Cultural Revolution, so this can't be a valid post restriction. Obviously, more on that later.Twomz in post 11, his first wrote:MODKILL the Capitalist PigDogs! Their "equal opportunity" sickens me!
The Communist Manafesto shall become the new Bible for all the Earth! Heil Hitler!
Because I wasn't satisfied with that response (i.e., I didn't believe it), and I wanted to grill him for more information.thedocisalive wrote:
Here is his first response to the accusation of being a restriction-faker. His second sentence sufficiently explains his reasoning for putting up a quote. He thought everyone else was doing it for the flavor of the game, not as a posting restriction. So why is it that Twomz is still accused of faking a posting restriction?Twomz in post 53 wrote:I thought i would be mod killed if i didn't post something vaguely pro Republic of Chinaian... I'm thinking most of the "posting restrictions" have been just a play along, or based on something the mod said in one of his first posts... i'm not going to take them all that seriously right now.
Yes, there is a case. If one player thinks that another player has been posting scummy,thedocisalive wrote:
People find Twomz' behavior scummy, but no one is suspicious of consecutive votes on him without a word of explanation? There is no real case against him, as far as I'm concerned. If people just say "he posts scummy," there should be a BabyJesus/TSAGod lynch in a couple of hours...Twomz wrote:So the case against me is that i post scummy... and that i posted a quote in my opening post because everyone else was... Well, there's not really anything i can say about it, i always post scummy, and i have no explination for a "faked role restriction" because that's not how i saw it at the time. If the town wishes me to claim fine. It won't matter in the long run... activity will drop long before we'll be able to bandwagon anyone else. And... well, i'll finish this sentence after i claim. (if i can remember it)they have every right to accuse the scummy player of being scum. It seems like basic logic to me. Isn't that the goal of this game? To discern who is scum and get them killed?
thedocisalive wrote:Again, "his play is scummy" isn't a sufficient reason for lynch.
Scummy play should not be excused just because it is the "norm" for a player.thedocisalive wrote:Also, in support of Twomz:
I can't verify this myself, but if this is the case, then there is no reason to lynch him. I looked at Twomz post-by-post, and he's defending himself against weak arguments, which include faking a post restriction and "your posts seem scummy."Vaughn wrote:...I would like to point out that Twomz play isn't different from his usual.
...so.... FoS Glork for finding what he believes is a slip-up, calling the player out on it, and voting for them because they seem scummy (thus implying that he thinks they're scum).thedocisalive wrote:FoS: Glork[/b] for adamantly pushing the Twomz bandwagon, when his best reason was the supposed "faking post restriction."
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HE SPEAKS!!!
Unvote. I'll drop my little push against Twomz for now, but I still don't like the faking/bandwagoning/whatever-ing he did with regards to posting restrictions.-
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Unvote, Vote: Twomz
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Confirm Vote: Twomz
Despite the fact I know that last post was likely a joke.-
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No Lynch is bad. Twomz lynch is good. Seriously, guys, how many times do I have to repeat myself before you guys kill Twomz?-
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...I still think Twomz is the way to go. I'm a stubborn, stubborn man sometimes. My vote stands.-
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Key word: Sufficient. I still don't believe that he was "trying to fit in with the town." Not in an innocent manner, anyway.Tamuz wrote:Real townies know how to move on after sufficient explanation and proof.-
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Though I don't like Bacde's reasons for bandwagoning earlier, I don't think that the bandwagon against him is legit. I'm sure that there's at least one scumbag pushing it, though I don't yet know who that might be.
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Okay, I did a quick re-read. I'm gonna link to posts, because I don't want to take up a lot of space quoting a lot of things.
First, Thok said here that Chamber caught his eye. Chamber asked why and, to my knowledge, Thok never gave any reason. What's the deal, Thok?
Second, mlaker's no lynch suggestion. Day One No-Lynches are hardly ever useful or productive. We lose a night's worth of kills, and we can't read who was on a lynchwagon. We're just denying ourselves information by NLing. Nor am I happy with his most recent vote for CES.FoS: Mlakerfor making such a suggestion initially, and also for immediately following The Unwritten after TU voted for CES. (Yay acronyms!)
Thirdly, Twomz's behavior still irritates me. But I think I've said that enough already.
Fourthly, Shamrock's bandwagoning is contributing to the Bacde bandwagon that I don't think should exist. I'm not happy with his earlier bandwagon vote, but I think he's defended himself reasonably. And I don't like when a bandwagon is pushed by posts like this.Unvote Twomz(*groan*),Vote: Shamrock. My scumdar says "this is the scumbag's re-rail attempt of the Bacdewagon."
Fifthly, Vaughn: Why make your vote against chamber?
I think that about covers it, for now. Not a fan of the Bacdewagon, not convinced that Y is scum, absolutely sure that there are 2+ scumfolk on the wagon, though. Right now, I'm looking at Shamrock, SOS, and possibly Yosarian2.-
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That explanation is satisfactory. Follow-up Question: Is that why your vote is still on Chamber, or is there another explanation?-
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Also, I want to request the followingModprods: argus_kos, TSAGod, Pooky, Coron, igota75
More requests coming if others are still being inactive.-
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My thoughts to the tee.chamber wrote:I still think twomz is the best lynch for today based on him pretending to have a psot restriction earlier. I don't think bacde is scum as I already stated, nor do I think the y scum for voting him
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Reason for Bacde vote? Seems like shameless bandwagoning to me, under the "this day needs to end" appeal.-
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I was voting Shamrock for re-railing the dying bandwagon against Bacde. I've already explained that right now, I think Bacde's mistake was an innocent one. A stupid one... but an innocent one. However, I'll happily get back on the Twomzwagon if it'll end the day. And get him lynched.-
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Unvote, Vote: Twomz
I've stated my reasons repeatedly. No need to do so again.-
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Actually, Twomz's "restricted" post came very early on, before it was known that some people had no restrictions.Vaughn wrote:I do not support the Twomz Bandwagon, because many of us don't have opening quotes. If he were scum, It would've made no sense to make such a play. Sure he's been scummy here and there, but playing with Twomz has taught me that that's just how Twomz plays.-
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I thought I had alreadyUnvoted toVote: Twomz. Either way, it should be on Twomz now.-
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Fixed.Glork wrote:I thought I had alreadyUnvoted toVote: Twomz. Either way, it should be on Twomz now.-
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Well, if he's going to be confirmed by other citizens, I'll definitely believe it for now. If either Shamrock or docisalive dies and turns up scum, though, all three of you will be hanging.Unvote
Time to re-read the thread and decide who I think is scummy, since I no longer like either lynchwagon.-
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Okay, enough of this. CES is one of my masons. GTFO his wagon now.-
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Mod's original post wrote:You can only trust your family (no scum Masons here).-
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The only claims I remember so far were Twomz claiming town (as there was a huge bandwagon against him), a pair of townie-claims to confirm him (one of which may have been unnecessary, and/or may have been false), and me claiming masonhood with CES (as there was a huge bandwagon against him, too).Y wrote:I don't think that all this claiming is such a good idea. If we have more than one killing group we might end up with much less power roles than we would like to.
No power roles have been claimed yet, and we've likely staved off two possible town lynches. How is this a bad thing?
(Note: That's not to say that the claims should continue. Alls I'm saying is, up to this point there's been little damage done.)-
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Glork wrote:UnvoteReposted for vote-count updating purposes.
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Er... I guess my vote is on mlaker... but it's' still on Twomz, too. Obviously, it should just be on mlaker.
Also, I'm thinking we might need a deadline. This has dragged on for a long, long time.-
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I believe so. The impression I got is that there are multiple families, each of which is a mason group.Ameliaslay wrote:Can there be more than one mason group?-
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Man, Fritz's tactics are flawless. Amazing. Impeccable! Obviously, the smart play is to lynch a mason or a likely-confirmed townie. Really, Glork supports that kind of behavior 100%.
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Unvote Nobody[/PokingFunAtCES]
Vote: Thok
Something doesn't sit right with me regarding Thok. I'm not at liberty to say what's going on, but I think he's trying to pull one on us right now. No posting restriction thus far has in any way referenced specific roles or abilities, yet he claims that his previous post was restricted.
That said, I'm aware of the SK/Psychiatrist bit Thok was involved in from Married to the Mob, but CA turned out to be scum. I guess I'm still a little confused, so I'd like you to explain the reference a bit more. Are you joking? Are you saying you're scum? Are you legit? What's the deal, yo?
Additionally, his behavior on Day One doesn't please me at all. He voted Chamber without giving any real reasoning (though after I questioned him on it, he said he did it to test reactions... which I don't automatically buy). He also said he'd be willing to Bacdewagon to help end the day, and he just kinda hopped on the Mlaker wagon under the "he's behaved similarly to Chamber" guise. He hasn't sent off any *major* red flags (other than this post restriction thing), IMO, but enough small things to warrant some pressure.
Regarding the Night's actions.... only one death in a game this large is somewhat surprising to me. Now granted, we nailed an SK yesterday (yeah late-day bandwagon changing!) but a single death just seems.... odd... to me. The Cultural Revolution. Considering the flavor of the game, I wouldn't be surprised if there's a cult around here somewhere. Loyalty is easy to buy, be aware of traitors. There isn't yet any hard evidence of a cult, obviously, but I think we would all do well to be cautious (paranoid, even) of such possibilities.-
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Yeah, masonvoting is tech.Vaughn wrote:vote: Glork
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Okay, Thok, I understand what you're saying about recieving a post restriction, but I still find two faults with it.
This phrase really bothers me. Again, I can't explain why (not yet, anyway), until I get a little more information. But I want to make it known that it doesn't sit well with me.Thok wrote:I was sent a pm that said my first post had to contain the faked words..
The second concern I had I already mentioned: None of the post restrictions I saw from DayOne had any mentioning of roles or abilities or anything. Yet yours does... that's definitely off-base and worth noting, IMHO.
So until further notice, my vote remains on Thok. I don't think a name claim is needed (or believable as "clearing" anybody), as masons aren't necessarily cleared (CES covered the whole "our third masonmate might be recruitable," and I hinted at it already), and even the Great Helmsman turned out to be an SK afterall.
Also, regarding Fritz: I have no idea why he keeps posting in Spanish, but from what I've read on the Cultural Revolution, there were no Spaniards, Mexicans, Portuguese, or anything similar for that matter. I've come to the conclusion that he's either doing a very poor job of faking a post restriction, or he's just screwing with us because he can.-
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Dear Fritzler,
Fail.
XOXO,
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PS.Unvote Thok, Vote: Fritzler. The Spanish Inquisition was very oppressive, biased, maniacal, and militant. They didn't have anything to do with the Cultural Revolution from what I can tell. They tortured and persecuted anybody they percieved as heretic. Considering nobody in the Cultural Revolution has anything to do with Catholicism, I think we've found ourselves a scumbag.-
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Ah, I see. When you say you'll claim, then type "Fucking Spanish Inquisition," it confuses poor fools like myself.
Something about this still reeks, though, so I'll keep my vote where it is. Also, Fritz, why did you send that particular "posting restriction" to Thok? Why have him call himself psychiatrist?-
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So confusing.... no... please, stop it.... can't. Take. Much. Mo-
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Yes.Tamuz wrote:CES will your daughter cease being able to communicate with you if she is turned?-
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Alternatively, CES and I know exactly who that person would be. We can each send a PM to each other every night. If this other masonpartner fails to send one night, we lynch them the next day. I suggest the other mason group(s) try to make a similar agreement on their own. We need to keep regular tabs on those we think can be convereted, and having masonship is awfully convenient for such a task.-
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Nevertheless, Tamuz, I definitely think you were fishing. I feel kinda stupid for having revealed so much, but meh.Unvote Fritzler,Vote: Tamuz-
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Ahem? I don't recall mentioning a posting restriction or recieving a PM.The Unwritten wrote:So Fritzler sent a PM, which results into a posting restriction for Thok.
The same happened for Glork.
Anyway, if the SK no-kills, then says "oh, there must not be an SK," he can later claim Vigilante, announce who he kills, make the kill, and get off scot-free.
Also, keep in mind, people, that there are a lot of possible explanations as to why we had only one kill last night. Doc protection, roleblocking, killers pickig the same target, etc. People are so quick to assume that there's exactly one mafia with X people left, and probably a cult, and no more SK. It's really, really hard (and generally really, really stupid) to jump to such conclusions this early in the game. It's a great ploy for scum, because if the town goes along with these bogus assumptions, we could completely screw ourselves over.-
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Yeah, TU's claim that there are "in fact 6" mafiates makes me curious. Could you clarify the basis on which you made that statement?-
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Unvote Tamuz(We can kill him tomorrow.)
Vote: The Unwritten
Let us crush him in the name of the Late Great Helmsman, Mao Zedong!!-
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Y wrote:Unvote(Was I even voting?)Vote The Unwritten.
There was a vote count about two posts up.-
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