Slaughter Hour: The Grand Debut! | Fin

[Ydrasse]

VOTE: petapan

Kill this. His posting is so scummy his tone is off already and he’s frozen. He. IS. Scum.

[Ydrasse]

hiiiii

[Ydrasse]

no i’m an extra

[Ydrasse]

VOTE: Ydrasse for having a name that consists of one capital letter followed by six lowercase letters. Now that's scummy.

Wait a minute.......... Cephrir............ Are you bussing me?

[Ydrasse]

Towm

[Ydrasse]

My cat went mrrrow

[Ydrasse]

she’s on my bed

[Ydrasse]

Towmafia

[Ydrasse]

Annie did it not me aha

[Ydrasse]

Annie left after typing that btw she’s fake as hell

[Ydrasse]

So true bestie

[Ydrasse]

there’s probably something to it but also my first reaction is that it was just a tongue in cheek way 2 elim someone for the drama of the game theme

[Ydrasse]

dumb question but if we have missing info does it matter if we speculate on what it could be :< like why not play at least today normally until we know what happens

if people have other info things they do now will look abnormal in comparison to people who are just trying to kill baddies

[Ydrasse]

dumb question but if we have missing info does it matter if we speculate on what it could be :< like why not play at least today normally until we know what happens

if people have other info things they do now will look abnormal in comparison to people who are just trying to kill baddies

speculating on the information the mafia has but we do not is how we catch bad guys

i mean it's all just speculation right now because bastard is a wide range

so acting as normal as we can as if this was just a day where we need to kill someone, if mafia are trying to do something different it'll be more obvious later?

[Ydrasse]

hi mt

[Ydrasse]

super animal royale is the best game in the world

[Ydrasse]

super animal royale is the best game in the world

they have 32 v 32 game modes right now nad me and some stranger ujst went and killed like ten enemies before we fell

i miss my comrade

[Ydrasse]

but this might be like that time you got me hooked on TFT to pockit me

this is exactly what im doing

i play with hectic i dont think hes around right now but i can harass him into playing in a squad >:3

[Ydrasse]

p sure prisms tilt is nai

[Ydrasse]

i want to pocket taly

[Ydrasse]

@taly youre so towny aha youre town I think youre town your posting is soooo good

[Ydrasse]

WOOOOO

[Ydrasse]

4th is pooky

[Ydrasse]

Ydrasse

I feel that you've been almost completely fluffy thus far. Is that a weak reason to scumread you?

It is a reason to townread me

[Ydrasse]

im fluffing townily

[Ydrasse]

yes

[Ydrasse]

If thats a serious read you are not going to get mcuh from me tbh

[Ydrasse]

O

[Ydrasse]

SO true

its more that just even ifits joking my motivation will tank if im scumread atm so like

if u want me to say things

trust me

[Ydrasse]

big mood

[Ydrasse]

gamma feels stiff but idk if it means a Lot

[Ydrasse]

why do they feel valid

[Ydrasse]

like do u agree with them what does that even mean

[Ydrasse]

Why tho

[Ydrasse]

From his perspective as well as in general those 3 aren’t great so far
Peta’s kinda felt reactive
Prism’s desire to be acquitted was a little skeevy and his reaction to being sussed was to claim joke which while technically valid doesn’t negate what actual tangible game thoughts he displayed with his joke
Ydrasse trying to jump in on the pockit fun felt a little overwrought

it feels like ur trying to frame this more from like, the perspective of validating pooky instead of stuff /you/ believe in even though you're able 2 espouse these reasons

[Ydrasse]

like clearly you think these things

you think we're scummy 2 some degree

but it sort of wraps around to pooky being scummy because... ?

[Ydrasse]

very strange mental gymnastics

[Ydrasse]

From his perspective as well as in general those 3 aren’t great so far
Peta’s kinda felt reactive
Prism’s desire to be acquitted was a little skeevy and his reaction to being sussed was to claim joke which while technically valid doesn’t negate what actual tangible game thoughts he displayed with his joke
Ydrasse trying to jump in on the pockit fun felt a little overwrought

it feels like ur trying to frame this more from like, the perspective of validating pooky instead of stuff /you/ believe in even though you're able 2 espouse these reasons

ok, do you think this post and the posts after it feel like genuine sorting or is it a scum "gotcha"

Upon some thought, I don't like

Gamma

or

Ydrasse

in that interaction.

Gamma

supports

Pooky's

scumreads, and while that's the basis of

"

Pooky

reads are too good to be true"

, but why does he go after

Pooky

and not the solve that he agrees with, first? Meaning, why doubtcast 3 players 285 only to say the 4th is supposedly the person who prompted this?

Peta

being like

"oh, that makes sense"

is also weird, lmao, especially since his vote is still on

Cakez

which I presume is serious. 283

But then again, why does

Ydrasse

sus a partner with almost no prompt?

Actually, why doesn't

Ydrasse

point a finger at

Pooky

for a solve that would be so opposed to her viewpoint of the game? So I can see the

"gotcha"

argument, but like the pressure she places on

Gamma

.

If I had tried to sway them from self-wagoning, I wonder how different 192 would've looked

I believe you're referring to my reaction to you. "Not trying to sway me" meant not trying to sway me you were town, not that you were trying to sway me to take any specific action. If you're referring to my presented motivation regarding wanting either unilateral action or out of the game entirely, I previously forced exactly that scenario on page 1 out of tilt, and later voted to concede the same game as town. I have alluded to similar as town.

My reacting with sheer disgust at bad reasoning and play is not an attractive quality of mine but is nothing new.

Oh. That makes more sense. OK, trust is being built here.

so you don't like me for voicing the exact thoughts you said here ??????? because that's more or less what i'm doing, let alone getting gamma to the point where he admits *why* he scumreads me/prism/peta

i don't care about what pooky says early game throwing out a solve like that and he probably knows that (ily pooky soryr)

[Ydrasse]

like ... clearly i am pointing the finger at gamma because he's doing something very weird in who he's voting lol

[Ydrasse]

let alone me already engaging with pooky's reads so far in a roundabout way

[Ydrasse]

SO true

its more that just even ifits joking my motivation will tank if im scumread atm so like

if u want me to say things

trust me

[Ydrasse]

genuine question

why did the trial/acquittal thing become so in depth

irl i think it's fine to make an association that these things would be on the minds of people going to real life court but

in a game is there really that much of a burden of guilt that it goes through all of that? it's removed from the reality of like real court big stressful, trial fun in mafia game

(maybe i just dont understand why its still being dwelled upon because it feels like an exceptionally fleeting thing that doesnt help beyond figuring out vague motivations of people but also like. building off of all this is going to be a shaky foundation)

[Ydrasse]

hi skitt

i don't really understand why people think gamma is scum

for me it’s mostly that he voted pooky for... agreeing with his reads. which makes no sense to me when he was able to verbalize scumreads on me/peta/prism when asked about it

like you have these thoughts about three people but then vote a random fourth option for agreeing with you like. ??

[Ydrasse]

but that’s about all i have atm

wim is low

[Ydrasse]

i don’t think that’s the case here i guess

the implication in voting pooky for me is that there’s scum in peta/prism but i read them both as null right now

[Ydrasse]

i guess the amount of time it took for gamma to vote in those three reads doesnt help

[Ydrasse]

i mean... yeah it doesn’t seem good. which is why people are calling him out.

[Ydrasse]

idk no one else is really scummy to me atm anyways

[Ydrasse]

i’m going to be honest you’re most of the reason why my wim is low pooky

[Ydrasse]

it doesn’t feel like a joke

[Ydrasse]

well can you stop making the joke then? it’s not fun

[Ydrasse]

not the awoo thing

it’s your solve that you have/had

idk if you’re serious or not but it feels like you’re not giving me a chance

[Ydrasse]

okay well for me it feels like it not being given a chance even if it’s not serious so it makes me not want to try bc why try if that’s what i’m gonna get

idk sorry

[Ydrasse]

no i’m just a crybaby tbh

[Ydrasse]

i’m at something close to 50% scum in all completed games atm :c

[Ydrasse]

<3

[Ydrasse]

I said kinda
I do feel like more often than not there’s one SR he has that’s unpalatable to me so I voted him to kinda work out whether it was malicious-feeling or not, plus there’s a haha-funny line of “you’re playing so well you have to be deep wolf bussing your buddies!”

do you have familiarity w scum pooky

he doesn’t (generally) bus especially that early so it feels... idk strange to follow that route when it runs opposite to what scum pooky would actually do :<

[Ydrasse]

for ydrasse and pooky

<3

you weren't really lowering my whim, i am just ... uh, sensitive to say the least so pls don't take it like that

i am feeling better now about stuff so it's all good!

[Ydrasse]

VOTE: gamma emerald

[Ydrasse]

i thought i had already voted gamma + was going off quoted vc

dont have a lot to add atm

[Ydrasse]

Woof.

[Ydrasse]

i still think gamma’s scum despite that post .-.

[Ydrasse]

i still think gamma’s scum despite that post .-.

how is that post even alignment indicative to you

..it’s not but i’m responding to the fact that toog thought gamma was towny presumably from it

[Ydrasse]

classic skitter on ydra scumread

[Ydrasse]

my essence

[Ydrasse]

this is the same ydra of that normal game and radio buzz

im rolling town lately and i cant stop

[Ydrasse]

i don't see the towniness of your essence

okay so do u think i grilled gamma that hard for shits n giggles

[Ydrasse]

i don't remember how u were in that normal game, i was scum and also have actively expunged that from my memory, sorry
but i don't think you're that similar to radio buzz

pedit why does grilling gamma make you town?

ur voting gamma. u think he is scum. i was one of the first ppl to dig into him and actually get him to explain his reasoning which is why you are now scumreading him. why do i set up gamma like that

[Ydrasse]

i don't remember how u were in that normal game, i was scum and also have actively expunged that from my memory, sorry
but i don't think you're that similar to radio buzz

pedit why does grilling gamma make you town?

ur voting gamma. u think he is scum. i was one of the first ppl to dig into him and actually get him to explain his reasoning which is why you are now scumreading him. why do i set up gamma like that

i did note that if he's scum you probably aren't but at this stage where we don't have any flips that isn't a reason to townread you

Zzz

If u say so but its just weird 2 me when i was the catalyst for like. not all of it but a decent chunk idk

maybe im just built different

[Ydrasse]

Tbf shiki was coming from an informed perspective with something to latch onto + more content (the callers)

[Ydrasse]

Tbf shiki was coming from an informed perspective with something to latch onto + more content (the callers)

I've asserted that was what helped me not flounder in that game
why is it valid for ulyana and not for me?

because ulyana did not out some very not-good takes

[Ydrasse]

Does anyone have $20 I could borrow? I promise to pay it back very soon.

I got 15

[Ydrasse]

Or you could look at players that personally give me fuzzy warm vibes: Infinity/Pooky/Ydra/Saber

taly why are you liking ydra here?

I mainly just liked how they reassured me of their emotions and connected when I sent GIFs. It felt genuine. I know that that's not exclusively a town move, but it makes me want to just vibe with the slot longer.

I don't much like how

Ydra

seems to focus a good portion on how people are reading her, but I don't have the heart or time to act on that at the moment.

im just like that

[Ydrasse]

is there something beyond the wanting to hammer despite being unsure for galron

because i can see myself going “yeah no info let’s flip and see what happens” if things dry up maybe i’m impatient

[Ydrasse]

idk sometimes i vote for things that i don’t get because it does move things forward
VOTE: galron
like this
sometimes it really is easier to send someone out and start fresh rather than put in the Work

[Ydrasse]

i don’t think it’s much but i will do those things on a whim

+ i don’t think that mindset is uncommon rlly

[Ydrasse]

Gamma had an opportunity to vote himself into the chair though.

So the theory that they are playing to get into the chair is probably incorrect regardless (though that doesn't necessarily make him town because the chair isn't necessarily or even likely to be good)

I hate this from Dunnstral

100 points for anyone who can figure out why I hate this

Real eyes realize real lies... or truths!

[Ydrasse]

There’s also the fact that skitter and Ydrasse, the two people on me I was probably the most keenly aware of via my earlier feelings of sadness at being voted by my TRs (I had a line going through my head during that time about “People That You Like Want to See You Suffer”, and I recently managed to pinpoint that it was an episode title from Survivor) moved to Galron, so I think they at least have good intentions even if I feel skeptical about Galron’s odds of flipping scum.

i'm like 90% sure that ydrasse's vote was to make a point to me and had nothing to do with u

i mean mostly that but i dont vibe with gamma as much so might as well see what happens if we fuck around

[Ydrasse]

we should put somebody in the chair b4 70 pages cuz long d1s r painful to reread

[Ydrasse]

VOTE: gamma

i'm making this spicy for everyone

[Ydrasse]

let's get wild

let's make people have stances on these

go crazy
AHHHH

[Ydrasse]

AWOOOOOOOOOOOO

[Ydrasse]

VOTE: spare

[Ydrasse]

ceph flip is fine and gamma felt sincere in his catch-up even if ceph doesn’t flip scum

not much else in my head

[Ydrasse]

ceph flip is fine and gamma felt sincere in his catch-up even if ceph doesn’t flip scum

not much else in my head

i want to circle back to this because it just struck me, you're just going with spare because of being "fine" with the flip? like wouldn't a hypothetical gamma-scum want to make a legitimate looking shot so as to get spared? i don't think he would openwolf with the shot so that feels like a very flippant read to make

idk what you’re expecting as an answer here when u seem to already know

if it looks fine or legitimate then yes gamma scum tries it gamma town also makes it because we’re (or i am) sitting here thinking that looks good

his process of sorting his thoughts looked real and that’s enough for me

[Ydrasse]

someone give me motivation

[Ydrasse]

):

[Ydrasse]

i keep reading things and just cant will myself to think about it

[Ydrasse]

i keep reading things and just cant will myself to think about it

what do you generally do to be townread when the lights are off?

i spew out some random stuff or go awoooo look at me i dont care because i usually dont

i dont have a lot of stuff to spew most of it is vague

cephrir was hitting the same feelies as radio buzz but ik he said he's good at replication

i thought gamma was towny in his little execution stuff

galron is probably still scum wifom or otherwise

could flip gamma with the execute + galron tmrw if gamma is town to see if tvs or tvt or see if it's like radio buzz

i dont know really

skitter infinity saber you town

rest are meh

[Ydrasse]

oh yeah taly town

[Ydrasse]

We won't know the benefit.

Trust these people until the end of time: Taly, Infinity, Skitter, Ydrasse, Sircakez
Good folks to keep around: Gypyx, Petapan
Could do with a touching-up: Dunnstral, Dwlee, Ulyana
Remove them from the premises: Saber, Galron, Toogeloo

I think I’m sitting somewhere around here?
FYI I kinda felt like Saber’s response to my question about the progression on me felt a little sus

I'd drop

Peta, Ydra, and Dunn

all down a tier.

idk about peta and Dunn, but Ydra I definitely feel like isn’t showing the same fatigue as she had in PYP, so unless between games she got a second wind, I don’t think she’s scum here

I'd drop Peta, Ydra, and Dunn all down a tier.

so you both think... sircakez is definitely town here?

Yeah pretty much
I feel like I’m pretty good at tone reading Cakez, as I’ve said before.

gamma i appreciate the townread very much but also how am i not more fatigued here than i was in that game ;-;

[Ydrasse]

peta's jealous that he has to post content to be townread tbh

[Ydrasse]

will (try) to answer when not busy

[Ydrasse]

VOTE: ydrasse

[Ydrasse]

isn't it just a duel

i get shot or shoot someone or s/t

[Ydrasse]

isn't it just a duel

i get shot or shoot someone or s/t

well, why do u want to be in it?

well if i get shot then i am out of the poe because, lbr i am not doing a lot (for the time being) to leave it

if i get to shoot someone maybe i hit a bad person

that's about it

[Ydrasse]

well people want to vote me to duel to the death and i dont begrudge them so im just going along with it

[Ydrasse]

my thoughts dont really get deeper than that on this other than maybe i'd want to be 2nd to get the gun first because if i get shot first then i cant shoot someone bad but thats it

[Ydrasse]

ummm

i'm going to be honest i dont like theme games that much even though i join them thinking i will >_> i think this is a fun setup but its not for me particularly, also large games + more people are soul sapping, and also maybe i ~like this playerlist~ too much to read them. idk.

i dont know who i would shoot atm, i would probably listen to everyone else and read if i actually had the gun in hand

[Ydrasse]

(i love the game morning tweet sorry that i suck)

[Ydrasse]

it genuinely isnt anything to be sorry for + i dont want people to be because i love everyone here it's just like... effort is a long way away from where i sit, i COULD reread and i might if i get motivation decide to go wild like closer to endgame (: but really dont be sorry its no ones fault <3

[Ydrasse]

oh, i know what ill do to try to be helpful, when i have some time (tonight / tomorrow) i will look into vcs + some early early stuff with the pooky kill

[Ydrasse]

hmmm

no it doesnt change anything and yeah i would be willing to be leashed for people i trusted

i think that it's... well im town so it's not ~okay~ if i die but there have been people townreading me, and people scumreading me, and it might help discern those ppl more

[Ydrasse]

peta, is my general demeanor why you sr me or what's the nitty gritty of it

[Ydrasse]

what if i told you the last game i played as town was more or less this

[Ydrasse]

ii think the pooky thing is fair but also i'm just too sensitive i guess or was about the things he was saying when i was like "haha okay no one gives little ydrasse a chance"

[Ydrasse]

fwiw i would vote infinity here to die in a normal game because she was actually in that last game where my motivation drained to the point i was actively trying tog et killed to not be a liability in endgame + she's saying that there's like, a bar i need to meet or something i think (?)

which is like... what. you just saw me throw the bar to the ground and you arent factoring that in

[Ydrasse]

also galron definitely should die at some point btw

wifom or not there was a wagon on him, people spared gamma (i ddint follow closely but that implies some degree of innocence seen in him) and assuming gamma's town you have a counterwagon that was close so like.. has to mean something lmao

[Ydrasse]

hi mt

[Ydrasse]

i dont have a better reason other than being a guinea pig for town to see what happens/if we get to shoot someone + being willing to be leashed (since someone is definitely dying and we know that)

[Ydrasse]

what if i told you the last game i played as town was more or less this

i would tell you i explicitly do not care, because the fact that you can play like this as town does not mean that playing like this makes you town

and i have no reason to not want to kill you over who actually care about solving the game

okay next question

do you think ppl are ~actively scummier~ than me?

absence of towntelling =/= scumming and ive only seen "slightly scummy"

[Ydrasse]

Tbf shiki was coming from an informed perspective with something to latch onto + more content (the callers)

i could see this for sure

gamma actually can you go back and iso her in student council? i think there's quite a difference in her engagement level even from here, plus there's a proactiveness she has here that she didn't there

now I'm not sure

what

to think because she felt more alive in student council looking at her ISO again than she does this game

+town imo, now i need to go back and read though cause i remember the exact opposite

like maybe the scumteam is dunn/galron/ydrasse/ceph but probably not right

idk who i should be looking at that i'm not

ydrasse often just doesn't really play as town too

VOTE: ydrasse

i don't think we should really be worried too much about galron/ydrasse wanting to vote themselves, if they're scum there's a good chance they're just trying to make it seem like they want to be voted. it's unlikely the duel is actually a good thing

fwiw i would vote infinity here to die in a normal game because she was actually in that last game where my motivation drained to the point i was actively trying tog et killed to not be a liability in endgame + she's saying that there's like, a bar i need to meet or something i think (?)

which is like... what. you just saw me throw the bar to the ground and you arent factoring that in

never said anything about a bar? i just like, think it's +scum for you to be demotivated still, and i don't have any other scumreads, and you didn't seem like you were gonna make yourself readable anytime soon

if you are then great

i am just ... confused by the things you are aware of and then voting me, i guess

[Ydrasse]

Why give scum any power here, though? If they're better informed than town and STILL want to be voted, why feed into that goal?

i think it's more likely that the duel is bad and galron/ydrasse are scum who are trying to make town second-guess voting them than they're scum who know the duel is good and want to get in as a result

...?

what makes you come to this conclusion...?

[Ydrasse]

that's a very wifom-y approach to take to this and i'm unsure why you're going to that

[Ydrasse]

what makes you come to this conclusion...?

i just don't think it's likely that the duel is good, especially since we know one of the duelists dues. if scum has to use their second sabotage then great. i don't think it's would be good game design to have the event be "haha you were supposed to be voting town into this but you had no real way of knowing"

i mean we've seen that design recently in silent star i.e. "you were supposed to be voting town all along" so it definitely happens

idk, i think maybe the assumption of this is good/bad is... it makes voting and doing things so trivial and irrelevant to me because it feels like flipping a coin of "oh this is good so i vote here" without knowing which means everything we do not matter and unreadable because it's weighed down by this context, so i feel strange seeing you apply it because like.

if it kills me, when i flip, you have set up a defense for yourself like "oh, i thought this because setup!"

[Ydrasse]

i guess what i am saying basically is i do not like having to second guess and think "what if THIS happens" every event ._. i wish we could just treat it like "always just treat like scummy person has to go in" or something but i know that won't happen because we don't know evens ahead of time

[Ydrasse]

and then people will go "sabotage" and then be like, hm, perhaps i shall not

it is too much of a headache for me

[Ydrasse]

i had no real opinion on the wagons and voted gamma to make dueling wagons

[Ydrasse]

what if i told you the last game i played as town was more or less this

i would tell you i explicitly do not care, because the fact that you can play like this as town does not mean that playing like this makes you town

and i have no reason to not want to kill you over who actually care about solving the game

okay next question

do you think ppl are ~actively scummier~ than me?

absence of towntelling =/= scumming and ive only seen "slightly scummy"

what's the purpose of this line of questioning @ydra

trying 2 gauge peta's headspace that's about it

[Ydrasse]

i had no real opinion on the wagons and voted gamma to make dueling wagons

Early ISO you were giving minor jabs towards him 'his tone is stiff' 'being weird his votes' etc. with lead into a vote. Did they change and you decided to vote him anyways? What do you think of Peta playing hardball with you? I think Peta is someone is a opportunistic person and would use your own misgivings against you as scum. Do I think Peta is scum? Not sure but I'm not really gauging how you feel about everyone accusing you.

idk really

i think infinity's worse than peta but it could be peta? idk if he knows how to read me tho

i feel pretty meh towards the suspicion on me because i'm not doing a lot to reroute it so it's like why could i be mad at my accusers lol

probably scum pushing me atm

i had no real opinion on the wagons and voted gamma to make dueling wagons

- still hate teh gamma e1 vote
- i was under the impression u were strongly scumreading gamma, no? that's what you were telling me before

thats okay you can hate it if u want to

atm i dont remember what my reads even were d1 but im not sring gamma now, but i remember my vote was more for making the wagons even then it was a real care about who was elimmed

[Ydrasse]

i mean idk fmpov it's like

i'm not doing a lot but i'm not doing a lot that's scummy either so ... the people who are being pushed on a lot might be scum + the people pushing me are looking for ways to not be on partners

[Ydrasse]

erm

i kinda feel like you might be not actually reading me and making it all up but sure

[Ydrasse]

i mean idk fmpov it's like

i'm not doing a lot but i'm not doing a lot that's scummy either so ... the people who are being pushed on a lot might be scum + the people pushing me are looking for ways to not be on partners

Like i guess i see this but kinda like I said above u also know ur not playing in a way that would gef u townread so from ur pov i'm not sure u shouod be finding it odd or scummy that people scumread you

i dont find it odd and i naturally assume some ppl doing it are town but i think that bcuz of that 1-2 people probably are being opportunistic and blending in with the town ppl because it's easy

[Ydrasse]

erm

i kinda feel like you might be not actually reading me and making it all up but sure

You'd be right because of aforementioned readrate lol

I remember NQN and you were sorta at the same level? But I guess if I had to point out a difference you were more gripey and not really about nitpicking like this. It's hard to get over a slump when it comes to accuracy though so uh yeah.

I said that bcuz ur slot methinks is scum

i would also say that this isn't comparable to nqn because i did come in + make a push (and was right wooo) and also made an effort to have... a presence, even if it wasn't a helpful one, i was there rather than a ghost

[Ydrasse]

i dont think ive ever had to read u in a gme

[Ydrasse]

id say youre a little towny

but thats at odds w how i see the game atm

unless it was t/t day 1

[Ydrasse]

Talent

[Ydrasse]

idk

i always scumread infinity without fail

it's hard to know if i just scumread something abt her

i just felt like she should have more standing wrt experience to know that i do this as town

she did say it was towny omgus which feels valid

i had less of an expectation but some for peta to know i do this as town sometimes but it's in character for him to not care about it tbh as either alignment so i didn't get far

[Ydrasse]

i think every game i play with her i scumread her for some portion of the game

[Ydrasse]

it takes me time to get over it usually

[Ydrasse]

well even if i have a deadline i dont think that can magically force my read sooo

[Ydrasse]

she has yes

in a trust fall game i think ?

[Ydrasse]

Can you link me

I'm looking to stack my townread deck more

--

In a hypothetical who would you wanna to be in a gun fight with? I assume that's how the event works. I think if you're town and people are misreading you I'd be alright with you choosing

um

kinda feel like your slot needs to be resolved

also im lazy but the game should be in wherever open games are still

[Ydrasse]

i just felt like she should have more standing wrt experience to know that i do this as town

to be clear: i do know that and you did mention it before

i do think it's a bit +scum though. and there wasn't really anyone else i wanted to vote

okay well i have poasted some

how do u feel

[Ydrasse]

this is the issue i have with you you say things that make me go ): but idk if they're just how you play at this point bc

youve been active + you know there are four bad ppl so.. you cant kind of shear your townreads down enough to get to like, even 6 people that are ok?

(yes i know this is an unfair point)

[Ydrasse]

Didn't you just say I looked towny too

Like wtf

'Yes I would shoot u'

Yes

but that doesnt make sense with how im thinking about the game

[Ydrasse]

maybe it could b gamma. idk

[Ydrasse]

yeah that's fair

okay so then, day one

the top two wagons are town

what does that say about things? the loudest voices = town, and scum are background?

[Ydrasse]

Didn't you just say I looked towny too

Like wtf

'Yes I would shoot u'

Yes

but that doesnt make sense with how im thinking about the game

why can't it be t/t

I was getting there

[Ydrasse]

I put my preemptive vote for something like Ydrasse/Infinity in the event

I think resolving those two would be useful and yes I do think one scum is contained in them

do you have solid reasons to think ydrasse is scum if i'm town?

I can only believe Ydra's demotivation so long. I know she enjoys being scum, but I also think that she's smart enough to be tactical about not caring. Why is her coming around to you after all that flak given the one thing she can muster upon? I also was shocked by her saying 'maybe it's gamma' and her comments about the gamestate and how there had to be something going on with Galron/Gamma wagons and stuff like that. It was curious takes but followed up by awkward silence which I can't really latch onto

I think if she truly believes you're scum she'll at least muster enough town care to make that clear if you two are pitted against another. If not? Then you get to resolve the read I'm supposed to believe you truly have

why's silence awkward tho when i'm just playing super animal royale

[Ydrasse]

ive already tried the lack of caring as mafia and it sucked tbh

i'm just doing my normal not caring as town thing, to the chagrin of people who want the COntent

[Ydrasse]

I feel you'd try again

Townread by any means necessary

You're secretly a tryhard which is why you stump me constantly yes yes that's it not because I'm bad or anything

okay sooooo

townread by any means here

where are my townreads if i am a secret tryhard trying so hard to fit in and get this table 2 like my content

[Ydrasse]

ur not gonna get analysis because unwnd's just scum lol

[Ydrasse]

I feel you'd try again

Townread by any means necessary

You're secretly a tryhard which is why you stump me constantly yes yes that's it not because I'm bad or anything

okay sooooo

townread by any means here

where are my townreads if i am a secret tryhard trying so hard to fit in and get this table 2 like my content

I mean you're not exactly topping readslist but even now I feel like you're not in danger. Being likable and then coasting off apathy is enough. I've done it before (with mixed results) as scum. I don't want to believe you dislike being town so much that we end up in circles about your own lack of activity and tells and not what you'd want your legacy to be when it came to reads lol

....how am i not in danger i feel a good portion of this table is okay with me being in the duel. like. almost everyone barring 2-3

i don't dislike being town i'm just out of it as i've explained

when i am Into it i quite like being town

[Ydrasse]

toog voting me when i am going after unwnd... much to think about

[Ydrasse]

I offer a trade deal to the townsfolk

i shall unvote myself thus ending my reign of "Let me die" and may offer you even some content when my body allows more room from thoughts where the pains seize it

In return I offer to you a platter with toog and unwnd sitting on it, carrier up the stairway to the Dueling GRounds

[Ydrasse]

I feel you'd try again

Townread by any means necessary

You're secretly a tryhard which is why you stump me constantly yes yes that's it not because I'm bad or anything

okay sooooo

townread by any means here

where are my townreads if i am a secret tryhard trying so hard to fit in and get this table 2 like my content

I mean you're not exactly topping readslist but even now I feel like you're not in danger. Being likable and then coasting off apathy is enough. I've done it before (with mixed results) as scum. I don't want to believe you dislike being town so much that we end up in circles about your own lack of activity and tells and not what you'd want your legacy to be when it came to reads lol

....how am i not in danger i feel a good portion of this table is okay with me being in the duel. like. almost everyone barring 2-3

i don't dislike being town i'm just out of it as i've explained

when i am Into it i quite like being town

It's the same reason someone like I dunno, Almost50 was able to coast despite being meh and even bottom tier in TENET. Eventually if you don't care maybe others won't care either.

The only time you become a talking point is when you're around

and then you perk your ears up and seem to be listening. Like, what else am I supposed to get out of that? It's like I said-- I would really enjoy some sort of legacy if you feel you can't muster motivation to be actively solving or whatever

???????

this is actively not what is happening lol

people talk about me and THEN i respond and you literally acknowledge that ie i perk my ears up which means... hm... people are talking about me without my actions causing it

[Ydrasse]

I have zero clue why you believe I'm scum

Last time we talked I was again towny

And it's not like you have your own data besides the one game we were scum together?

Last time we talked you weren't spewing bullshit

why does me having data matter to your play this game again?

[Ydrasse]

like imagine saying "you don't have data to know what i'm like so you shouldn't be scumreading me :/"

[Ydrasse]

You give me a flip I want and you'll see that more

it hard to give to this because what i already laid out like you have to be TOWN upfront and the flip you want has to be NOT TOWN

I would like Infinity/Ydra

^ imagine making weirdass dichotomies and pushing them as if they're beneficial

[Ydrasse]

VOTE: unwnd

Simply Perish

[Ydrasse]

Uh yeah that's exactly it

Wouldn't you rather be more cautious

You said yourself you've never had to read me so why are you convinced you can now if you're really just town lol

why should i care about being 'cautious'

what about this game signals that i care about taking it slow and methodical?

you did scummy stuff, i call it out

i'm not going to fringe and whine like "oh but what if i'm wrong"

[Ydrasse]

Ydra your two scumreads you've made so far are me and Infinity

I just said I want to put You/Infinity together in the execution. Am I bussing then?

Wack how i made a comment not like five-ten minutes ago calling out Toog as well ... might mean i've had a think or two here about stuff

wack how i could be wrong on infinity as well

[Ydrasse]

I mean if you're not just thinking at all when you're away then why am I supposed to believe this interaction gave you a eureka moment

Didn't you pivot into a scumread on me in NQN as well lol

if you think this game is comparable to nqn aat all in the content that i gave you're deranged lmfao

[Ydrasse]

Don't you bemoan when I just blindly tr you? Is the equivalent of me going 'no, not this time' indicative that I must be scum who is trying to get you eliminated?

no this is me calling you scum because you're trying to set me up for gotchas and the points you're making about how i should be treating you make literally no sense

[Ydrasse]

like you keep asking me like 'am i bussing then?' 'don't you usually do this?' 'i thought you just had this experience with me?'

and it's smug inane bullshit to distract from the fact you're trying to push me out with infinity because you think there's ~1 scum between us~ though there's literally like, nothing to actually support that other than you throwing out an arbitrary pairing

[Ydrasse]

i actually think you expected i would roll over and not deal with it LOL

[Ydrasse]

unwnd rubbing his greedy little mitts together like "ohoho i can push out ydrasse and it'll look fine this game"

like fuck you if you're gonna do it this blatantly i'm just going to get you killed

[Ydrasse]

I'm not setting you up for anything, I literally am giving you olive branches

YOU'RE INSANE LOL

[Ydrasse]

I feel you'd try again

Townread by any means necessary

You're secretly a tryhard which is why you stump me constantly yes yes that's it not because I'm bad or anything

Just not what I think needs resolving right now. I'd rather see what Ydra flips in relation to Peta's own read as a minor tack on

I feel you'd try again

Townread by any means necessary

You're secretly a tryhard which is why you stump me constantly yes yes that's it not because I'm bad or anything

okay sooooo

townread by any means here

where are my townreads if i am a secret tryhard trying so hard to fit in and get this table 2 like my content

I mean you're not exactly topping readslist but even now I feel like you're not in danger. Being likable and then coasting off apathy is enough. I've done it before (with mixed results) as scum. I don't want to believe you dislike being town so much that we end up in circles about your own lack of activity and tells and not what you'd want your legacy to be when it came to reads lol

I feel you'd try again

Townread by any means necessary

You're secretly a tryhard which is why you stump me constantly yes yes that's it not because I'm bad or anything

okay sooooo

townread by any means here

where are my townreads if i am a secret tryhard trying so hard to fit in and get this table 2 like my content

I mean you're not exactly topping readslist but even now I feel like you're not in danger. Being likable and then coasting off apathy is enough. I've done it before (with mixed results) as scum. I don't want to believe you dislike being town so much that we end up in circles about your own lack of activity and tells and not what you'd want your legacy to be when it came to reads lol

....how am i not in danger i feel a good portion of this table is okay with me being in the duel. like. almost everyone barring 2-3

i don't dislike being town i'm just out of it as i've explained

when i am Into it i quite like being town

It's the same reason someone like I dunno, Almost50 was able to coast despite being meh and even bottom tier in TENET. Eventually if you don't care maybe others won't care either. The only time you become a talking point is when you're around and then you perk your ears up and seem to be listening. Like, what else am I supposed to get out of that? It's like I said-- I would really enjoy some sort of legacy if you feel you can't muster motivation to be actively solving or whatever

I have zero clue why you believe I'm scum

Last time we talked I was again towny

And it's not like you have your own data besides the one game we were scum together?

You give me a flip I want and you'll see that more

it hard to give to this because what i already laid out like you have to be TOWN upfront and the flip you want has to be NOT TOWN

I would like Infinity/Ydra

Uh yeah that's exactly it

Wouldn't you rather be more cautious

You said yourself you've never had to read me so why are you convinced you can now if you're really just town lol

Ydra your two scumreads you've made so far are me and Infinity

I just said I want to put You/Infinity together in the execution. Am I bussing then?

I mean if you're not just thinking at all when you're away then why am I supposed to believe this interaction gave you a eureka moment

Didn't you pivot into a scumread on me in NQN as well lol

Don't you bemoan when I just blindly tr you? Is the equivalent of me going 'no, not this time' indicative that I must be scum who is trying to get you eliminated?

I'm not setting you up for anything, I literally am giving you olive branches

QUOTE THE OLIVE BRANCHES IN THIS UNWND

COME ON NOW.

[Ydrasse]

SHOW ME YOUR GOOD GRACE!!!!!

[Ydrasse]

you picked the fight with the wrong fucking person

[Ydrasse]

like you keep asking me like 'am i bussing then?' 'don't you usually do this?' 'i thought you just had this experience with me?'

and it's smug inane bullshit to distract from the fact you're trying to push me out with infinity because you think there's ~1 scum between us~ though there's literally like, nothing to actually support that other than you throwing out an arbitrary pairing

I haven't been here and this is like the first interaction that wasn't just 'i am demotivated' that I can latch onto. The vigor against me is slightly unpleasant but if you're awake now then I'm fine with it. I want to understand how Infinity flipping scum would affect your worldview. It's a genuine question.

nope nope nope you don't get to step back with it

suddenly you care about how i think? about what infinity flipping would do to me?

what a trite, meaningless question

[Ydrasse]

where are the olive branches, where were you giving me the BENEFIT of one?

[Ydrasse]

you don't get to say 'i'm reaching out to you' while you're PUSHING ME TO BE IN THE DUEL

[Ydrasse]

fwiw if you wanna talk about ""safe"" like you tried to insist i was (looool) infinity's a safer pick, so ya, you could be bussing lmao! no one is gonna bite on your weird little pet theory of "one of infinity/ydra is scum" but hey, you look pretty good while doing it if infinity's flipped down the line, yeah?

there you go!

[Ydrasse]

this is how i feel right now

Spoiler:

[Ydrasse]

I'm not sitting here like yes yes Ydra/Infinity MUST have scum together I have decreed it as such. I definitely say shit in the moment to see what others will take from it. I'm a replacement in a 107 page game missing loads of fucking interaction that doesn't really serve me at this point. I'm trying to get myself into the game and picking and prodding at multiple things. If I ask you 'what about x in comparison to y' for myself it's because I'm petty as well. It seems to have agitated you and honestly I can't read it and don't feel like falling into my own terrible habits so I would appreciate if things didn't spill over because if you're town it's literally just going end up with one of us being dead and flipping green.

sooooo you're worried about blowback from this...?

[Ydrasse]

that's all i'm getting

"please stop... take a moment... one of us could die... (but i'm really only worried about me dying which is suddenly a threat)"

[Ydrasse]

like i'm not agitated on a personal level i hope you know

i'm baffled and annoyed because i really, genuinely think you though i would roll over and die and the ways you kept trying to set it all up would be ignored or glossed over because... well, i wouldn't challenge you on it.

because i hadn't done it elsewhere, because like, fuck, everyone else voting me? i get it

but you were just doing it so obviously that i'm not gonna take the fake hand wringing lmao

[Ydrasse]

The moment I choose not to get emotional (e.g my apparent scumtell) and I have peta/Skitter/You all clamoring that I'm backed into a corner and just saying stuff.

Cool.

this isn't personal.

but you are saying things (offering olive branches) that aren't reflecting in your words/actions, so i am fighting back. that's it.

[Ydrasse]

that's all i'm getting

"please stop... take a moment... one of us could die... (but i'm really only worried about me dying which is suddenly a threat)"

I don't like being wrong lmfao

Jesus christ

Why would I want to be wrong about you? All I have is my dumbshit reasons which is why we're having this conversation. Which is why I'm throwing You/Infinity out to see what happens. I don't particularily enjoy being gritty with you because I am not

strongly convinced

you will flip scum. I'm sure to that you say 'well why suggest it in the first place' but it's like damn. Why suggest a scumread at all in-thread? I don't deal in absolutes

okay so now look at what you said

"why suggest a scumread at all in-thread?"

you were basically telling me the same thing, more or less: why suggest a scumread if i'm not sure of how you play.

like, god damn. you sure seem convinced i WILL flip scum based on your game so far.

[Ydrasse]

like i'm not agitated on a personal level i hope you know

i'm baffled and annoyed because i really, genuinely think you though i would roll over and die and the ways you kept trying to set it all up would be ignored or glossed over because... well, i wouldn't challenge you on it.

because i hadn't done it elsewhere, because like, fuck, everyone else voting me? i get it

but you were just doing it so obviously that i'm not gonna take the fake hand wringing lmao

I literally don't think this

If I were scum here I think I'd just be like 'oh, Ydra is being apathetic let's give her time' because I think I would really enjoy pocketing you for pocketing me all those times

i want to believe you on this but i really just can't. i (was) easy pickings, and even if you'd WANT to do that you'd probably just want to win.

[Ydrasse]

and you can't really decide to pocket me when i have misgivings, and i am going back and forth on your slot with doubts (i think you are a little towny, but i think the game so far feels more like you should be scum)

[Ydrasse]

and like, beyond that?

it's shitty that you repped into a slot that i think should die. the wifom from before is useless; galron was protected. he was, however, wagoned for a reason.

i have a townread on the person who was on his opposing wagon.

to ME, how i see a game? i don't think a town (and THIS TOWN) can be so egregiously wrong as to fuck it up and get two t/t wagons

and if we somehow did, if one of those people are scummy, kill them and figure it out since we were DENIED THE CHANCE TO RESOLVE IT

[Ydrasse]

that's all i'm getting

"please stop... take a moment... one of us could die... (but i'm really only worried about me dying which is suddenly a threat)"

I don't like being wrong lmfao

Jesus christ

Why would I want to be wrong about you? All I have is my dumbshit reasons which is why we're having this conversation. Which is why I'm throwing You/Infinity out to see what happens. I don't particularily enjoy being gritty with you because I am not

strongly convinced

you will flip scum. I'm sure to that you say 'well why suggest it in the first place' but it's like damn. Why suggest a scumread at all in-thread? I don't deal in absolutes

okay so now look at what you said

"why suggest a scumread at all in-thread?"

you were basically telling me the same thing, more or less: why suggest a scumread if i'm not sure of how you play.

like, god damn. you sure seem convinced i WILL flip scum based on your game so far.

The end of that post where I said I don't deal in absolutes should explain why I'm not convinced

In no way will I ever be confident as a replacement in a game with such a scale and a nuanced playerlist. That includes yourself. Fuck me for trying though? I gave my take and it ended up with You/Skitter/Peta all convinced I'm putting on an act or something. I don't like saying this because I'm sure one of you will go 'heh he's just appealing' but like if my green flip needs to wake you up then whatever. I've been doing me and if I die doing so then, whatever.

Spoiler:

sorry if you are town dude! i just don't see it and i don't know if i ever will after this! i like playing with you as a person and you know this too but i can't just let it slide or go.

[Ydrasse]

like i'm not agitated on a personal level i hope you know

i'm baffled and annoyed because i really, genuinely think you though i would roll over and die and the ways you kept trying to set it all up would be ignored or glossed over because... well, i wouldn't challenge you on it.

because i hadn't done it elsewhere, because like, fuck, everyone else voting me? i get it

but you were just doing it so obviously that i'm not gonna take the fake hand wringing lmao

I literally don't think this

If I were scum here I think I'd just be like 'oh, Ydra is being apathetic let's give her time' because I think I would really enjoy pocketing you for pocketing me all those times

i want to believe you on this but i really just can't. i (was) easy pickings, and even if you'd WANT to do that you'd probably just want to win.

Getting into a shitfight with you is not how I win

I'm also not trying to appease Skitter/Peta which I think is bullshit from Cakez don't think I didn't see that

again ... i don't think you expected me to bite back.

[Ydrasse]

and like, honestly? if you want me to call on my experience of you as scum?

i DO think that this is a little scummy. maybe i'm tunneled now on the first thing that feels "real" to me, but, when we were both scum the pressure was pushed away by more emotive posting.

i don't think it's fake emotion but like. i think it could be you using it a certain way.

[Ydrasse]

and like, beyond that?

it's shitty that you repped into a slot that i think should die. the wifom from before is useless; galron was protected. he was, however, wagoned for a reason.

i have a townread on the person who was on his opposing wagon.

to ME, how i see a game? i don't think a town (and THIS TOWN) can be so egregiously wrong as to fuck it up and get two t/t wagons

and if we somehow did, if one of those people are scummy, kill them and figure it out since we were DENIED THE CHANCE TO RESOLVE IT

The resolution is that I flip green and I feel like shit because it's literally part of my job as town to not get mislimmed. I take that personal at a game level and I'm annoyed by this flip but not to the point where I'd hate any of you. It's just like what the fuck do I do? lol

:/

this isn't going to progress well or further.

[Ydrasse]

In terms of "I believe they have this read on me" from my own voters it'd be like Skitter > Infinity > Ydra> Saber.

Ydra dropped down because she just literally is ignoring the fact shit has happened since our fight

ya i’ve had pain flare up so the energy i had to fight left quickly

[Ydrasse]

<3 you infi

when i try to think about this game i get a reads list closeish to yours

[Ydrasse]

unwnd i’m gonna be real

i started doubting if you were scum in my Mindpalace

[Ydrasse]

ty everyonnnnne

[Ydrasse]

i don’t know how i feel about a cakez duel for reasons

he feels less... idk. Obvious Than I Expect and with a presence. maybe that is because he has one

[Ydrasse]

maybe dunn + someone

[Ydrasse]

VOTE: dunnstral

i’m ~ok~ with cakez being in the duel but i’m throwing my vote here for the second person

[Ydrasse]

Basically don't think Skitter scum defends Cakez the way she has if Cakez is scum

i would not make that assumption


granted on a gut level she's still town but i have nothing deeper until we get some form of actual flips and voting

Based take

[Ydrasse]

oh wtf

toogs in the game

[Ydrasse]

Well everyone i think we know what we have to do then

[Ydrasse]

VOTE: toogeloo

[Ydrasse]

id be down for cakez/toog

pedit: thats true too

[Ydrasse]

a problem with slapfight active games like this is that everyone just refuses to move and then everyone ends up with some weak consensus elim while leaving all of the controversial slots untouched
which I hope does not happen here

oh wtf

toogs in the game

Yeah and their posting is v scummy and if there's something that ruffles my feathers, blows smoke up my chimney, shakes my monkey tree it's that FUCKING people are calling them LHF bait and it's like no offense to toog but they're always LHF bait but there's a crumb of sincerity and willingness and here they're just like ughhh im bored let's kill some fucking people lol

it actively should not be hard to flush a turd like him but there's enormous resistance to even the idea he should be flipped

the only possible reasons for this are agendaed play (regardless of his alignment) or people just overthinking and being scared to miss on an objectively worthless player who adds no value to the game and is -EV by sheer existence

there's a few people here who might be prone to that overthinking but the way the game has positioned itself around him? feels fucking unnatural

[Ydrasse]

just do toog/dunn and make everyone involved happy lol

[Ydrasse]

i hard carried that game tbh

[Ydrasse]

And yet silly little ydrasse stood victorious for (checks notes) voting someone once

Working hard or hardly working? You decide

[Ydrasse]

I still cant believe they died that game like the mental gymnastics happening

[Ydrasse]

And yet silly little ydrasse stood victorious for (checks notes) voting someone once

Working hard or hardly working? You decide

if u mean the bulge vote that actually was legitimately pivotal because menalque had leveled himself into not being able to make it


the shit people let hydras get away with is absurd

that was unironically the turning point for playing mafia for me when i realized you can literally just do whatever you want and get away with it

like you can just post anything and it works out somehow

[Ydrasse]

Literally im about to coach the entire 4/4 team this game just post anything ill townread you for real

[Ydrasse]

oh thank god

we voted like two days ago or something

[Ydrasse]

i think the names thrown around most from us were infinity and ulyana and toog a little less