Legends of the Buisness Company [Staplers Take Over the World]

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

sup i aint solving shit this game

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

wheres my mini games at

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

we should get 1 dollar per post so i have an excuse to turbopost my ass off

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

nor do a townie post or ill challenge you go

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

just joking I aint challenging shit this game

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

missed your chance to get an easy townread from me tho sucks to be slow

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

freedom did ghost out of here p fast ngl

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

what does that tell you

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

first thought that comes to your mind go

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

sup qt

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

wow rude

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

maybe they aren't posting cuz our mod still has this titled as pre-game

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

It was my first thought.

so fake but you're lucky im not going to pressure you for it cuz i am a REFORMED business bear who is here to make MONEY

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

im conftown now

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

the moderator would never say a mafia member smells

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

it would be moderator interference

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

fuck i was distracted by this game and picked a draven augment when im already running miss fortune

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i blame ydrasse for abandoning me

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i'd bet 500 fake firebringer dollas he cant do it

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

hell yea

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

norwee dont give a fk you a washed up scrub now

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I have once again failed to roll scum and its getting a little obnoxious.

skill issue

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Hello I am going to play with zero filter this game apologies in advance

yes my bad habits are rubbing off on my teammate

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I have once again failed to roll scum and its getting a little obnoxious.

skill issue

Would you say you're more or less skilled than I am. Hypothetically speaking.

i rolled scum in 75% of the completed games ive played in 2022, you tell me

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i just want it to be known now that if i am ever daykilled then

Spoiler: secret info only click on it if pooky gets shot

Gamma shot me

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

do it do it do it

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

do it do it do it

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

alisae definitely scum

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

you haven't proven yourself worthy yet

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

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[PookyTheMagicalBear]

HC is posting a bit in our point but has yet to post a real thing in this thread. Interesante.

Yep, I was waiting for people to get the spam bullshit out of their system.

I am a little curious why Fen would jump straight to wanting to challenge, but if he's going where I would go then I'm willing to not press him that.

i can do geriatric if people want to not post

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

sup n00b join bear corp and i'll hook you up with some double votes

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

VOTE: Pooky

I accept your endorsement for CEO of this game.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

sup furtive you roll town this time

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

weak fingers

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

doesnt the mystery box suck

scum can just give you useless shit

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

all these items r pro scum af

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I roll town this time

nice would you like to join my very serious business corporation that is totally not a ponzi scheme?

we're gonna make FTX look bad

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

too tired to even bother holding

shit

I MEANT

SHIFT

I DON'T HAVE DIARRHEA I SWEAR

your avvie does look like it's pooping

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Pooky trying to scam my team

you can join too wizard dude

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

alright what do you want your title to be then

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

look at freedom just solving the game i love this guy

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I knew Pengy had my back.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

enchant is so fucking town lol

interrogate that woofbringer good.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

You just found 3 instances that fit your narrative and are willfully ignoring all other instances

does this make him town or scum

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

susp

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

id challenge alisae but i dont want to be accused of being a thief also i got flamed last time for challenging early

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

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[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I'm gunna flame u no matter what so follow your heart.

i cant do that to my girl gamma emerald two games in a row

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

alishirou both scum rofl

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

alishirou both scum rofl

THE PARAGON ALREADY GOT US??!1?

you're lucky ive retired from scum hunting and decided to go into the ponzi scheme business

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

This is a parachute

yoink

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

shirou i want you to give me the detailed plan you would put into the scum pt if you were scum and how we as town can counteract that.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

hype hype hype

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

VOTE: sircakes

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

shirou i want you to give me the detailed plan you would put into the scum pt if you were scum and how we as town can counteract that.

never buy scum mystery box prob? it's the unique way scum can influence the game mechanically speaking

it sounds really fun to buy it though

disappointing

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

We had 10/11 pages of content and it was fun seeing people grasping at straws without being able to vote. That kind of awkward stage is the best because scum doesn't know what to do, it's not something usual in a game and you want to throw unusual stuff to get unusual results

Now all discussion will be only about you 4 and I feel it's a waste this early

you can discuss whatever you want dude nobody will stop you

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

other people can also discuss anything they want

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Team Single Braincell challenges Team Not Cheaters

me and pooky worked together to decide on this challenge

Come at the King best not miss.

bus your teammate and we wont double tap you immediately

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

other people can also discuss anything they want

you know what I mean I don't get why you seem dismissive with me

I just want to have fun though so I'll just stop and go back to waiting the minigames

1. its literally not true - people can discuss anything they want
2. it is anti-town and scum motivated to try to limit the scope of the discussion
3. its fake virtue signalling to complain about challenges without having actual takes/stances on the people in the challenge or like a challenge you actually wanted to do.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

shirou trying to incite a t-bone vote for me is pretty lulzy do you always openwolf so blatantly

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

like fuck who does this shit even work on

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

before you pull out a 20 page manifesto about how you play scummily as town i suggest you try to play townie instead of using that as an excuse

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

id be down to turboyeet shirou regardless of what cakes flips as

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Lazy Shirou has requested replacement. Not Buisness enough for this game.
Found suitable professional buisness person to replace in. Please welcome Shirou.

lol

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

is it because your scum team is in trouble

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I think Shirou is just scum. There's no reason to assume just because I explained why I think Gamma could be town or that I don't want to lim my PT partner that it has to make Pooky scum.

Meaning you were open to limming Pooky, but not scumreading them? I don't really get that.

using process of elimination to try to force someone into making a choice is scummy because there's no actual scum read involved its just blatant openwolf manipulation

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

norw do you actually have a read on shirou or just shitposting

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

norw do you actually have a read on shirou or just shitposting

I think their abrasiveness is normal. Why are they scummy?

im not talking about their abrasiveness i am talking about the outcomes they are trying to influence and flagrant lamisting bullshit

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I've told everyone in site chat multiple times I was treating this as a chill game but you just kept poking me for what you KNOW is my town meta of not being serious and what I told EVERYONE I would do

when did i poke at you for being chill

you're just making shit up now

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

You think Alisae is scum when she's not trying to powerplay?

alisae made 2 posts do you think im serious about my read there

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

You seem to think I'm ?scum? when I wasn't trying to powerplay?

i think you're scum because you're openly trying to get t-bone to vote me via a manipulation tactic that is scummy af and i also found your mech analysis pretty lacking tho i was willing to ignore that because you said you wanted to chillax this game.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

[quote="In post 357, NorwegianboyEE"][/quote]

i respect the effort

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

When I said I didn't like the early challenge it was because it seemed you were trying to powerwolf this and nothing you're throwing me at me right now changes my mind that this may be the case

You've been poking me since awhile ago and I'm not being any different from normal here

You just want seem to want to take control of this

im not even taking this game seriously good joke with the power wolf comment

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

You've literally not treated me in a single post here with what I feel could be called "good-faith"

You think Alisae is scum when she's not trying to powerplay?

alisae made 2 posts do you think im serious about my read there

CAKEZ MADE LITERAL 6 POSTS

6 > 2

also i didnt even challenge him so what r u whining about

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

You've literally not treated me in a single post here with what I feel could be called "good-faith"

wtf r u talking about

i didnt even start screaming you were scum until you started trying to get t-bone to vote me with shady methods

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

You seem to think I'm ?scum? when I wasn't trying to powerplay?

i think you're scum because you're openly trying to get t-bone to vote me via a manipulation tactic that is scummy af and i also found your mech analysis pretty lacking tho i was willing to ignore that because you said you wanted to chillax this game.

What analysis? You want me to say what scum can do in the setup?

It's literally all related to scum mystery box

As long as we track who buys what and who gains what on mini-game there's little shenanigans in this setup to be made

The shenanigans start when you can't be sure of how much money someone has, and scum mystery box is the unique thing I've noted to be able to do it

i have a hard time believing you're this bad at basic mech but sure

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

You seem to think I'm ?scum? when I wasn't trying to powerplay?

i think you're scum because you're openly trying to get t-bone to vote me via a manipulation tactic that is scummy af and i also found your mech analysis pretty lacking tho i was willing to ignore that because you said you wanted to chillax this game.

why do you have your panties in a knot over 1 singular vote
if anything villagers should be open to the idea of using their vote to apply pressure
it's not like the vote is going to make or break your wagon

I don't get the issue

really weird framing here

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I'm "whining" about the fact you were being dismissive to me for pointing out my feelings that this felt like a early random challenge which it is

1. its not a random challenge because gamma thinks he can read cakes pretty well
2. getting the game started instead of floundering in RVS is not anti-town
3. I wasn't being dismissive of your feelings - I was stating that I thought you were not only inaccurate and wrong but probably just scum trying to sound townie by complaining about something that you think town would be annoyed by.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

You're here "OKIE" with Cakez being turbo limmed but basically having a melty from me pushing you back and asking if T-Bone wouldn't vote you when he said he WANTED to most likely vote you

What happened to "having fun" Pooky? This is beyond a bit "defensive"

rofl what meltie

keep making up bullshit shirou

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

pretty hilarious you get your hand caught in the cookie jar doing scummy openwolf vote manipulation and your response to me and t-bone calling you out for it is

"OH SHIT POOKY IS HAVING A MELTDOWN"

like lol what nonsensical framing

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

You seem to think I'm ?scum? when I wasn't trying to powerplay?

i think you're scum because you're openly trying to get t-bone to vote me via a manipulation tactic that is scummy af and i also found your mech analysis pretty lacking tho i was willing to ignore that because you said you wanted to chillax this game.

why do you have your panties in a knot over 1 singular vote
if anything villagers should be open to the idea of using their vote to apply pressure
it's not like the vote is going to make or break your wagon

I don't get the issue

really weird framing here

address the concern
VOTE: pooky
not rly interested in this PvP mindset bullshit of attacking back and my main concern is I don't see how what you are describing is wolf indicative at all

mmmmmmmmmmhhhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

3. I wasn't being dismissive of your feelings - I was stating that I thought you were not only inaccurate and wrong but probably just scum trying to sound townie by complaining about something that you think town would be annoyed by.

You really think I'm not annoyed on how the Dance Game ended?

A lot of the reason was the early random pairings, it got really difficult to get a single t/t pair other than Enchant/Midway that well, had Enchant so he eventually left

I've not got a single good town game since returning and I'm not that serious about this game but the fact you egged me for this simple point makes me not like you

wtf does this have to with an early challenge in this game


dance game and this game is completely different in terms of strategy, play and tempo

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

You seem to think I'm ?scum? when I wasn't trying to powerplay?

i think you're scum because you're openly trying to get t-bone to vote me via a manipulation tactic that is scummy af and i also found your mech analysis pretty lacking tho i was willing to ignore that because you said you wanted to chillax this game.

why do you have your panties in a knot over 1 singular vote
if anything villagers should be open to the idea of using their vote to apply pressure
it's not like the vote is going to make or break your wagon

I don't get the issue

really weird framing here

address the concern
VOTE: pooky
not rly interested in this PvP mindset bullshit of attacking back and my main concern is I don't see how what you are describing is wolf indicative at all

mmmmmmmmmmhhhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

No actually
what's the point of responding like this
these are basically just nothing responses that if anything what you think of the post.
so like what's the point?

im laughing at your openwolfiness and telling you i know you're a wolf just wait your turn

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

You really believe you just got the scum team in page 16 Pooky?

Your "confidence" is

RIDICULOUS

i'm always ridiculous

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

You thought Cakez was likely scum but thought T-Bone being dodgy about it and not voting you instead even when he said he felt inclined to do so wasn't associative?

You think me egging him about it is the problem instead?

i think you trying to get him to vote the way you want without stating a read on cakez is classic scum trying to control lim direction without committing to reads and the way you waffle on cakes smells awful

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

You seem to think I'm ?scum? when I wasn't trying to powerplay?

i think you're scum because you're openly trying to get t-bone to vote me via a manipulation tactic that is scummy af and i also found your mech analysis pretty lacking tho i was willing to ignore that because you said you wanted to chillax this game.

why do you have your panties in a knot over 1 singular vote
if anything villagers should be open to the idea of using their vote to apply pressure
it's not like the vote is going to make or break your wagon

I don't get the issue

really weird framing here

address the concern
VOTE: pooky
not rly interested in this PvP mindset bullshit of attacking back and my main concern is I don't see how what you are describing is wolf indicative at all

mmmmmmmmmmhhhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

No actually
what's the point of responding like this
these are basically just nothing responses that if anything what you think of the post.
so like what's the point?

im laughing at your openwolfiness and telling you i know you're a wolf just wait your turn

Well if you don't give me any room to solve your slot and treat me like an enemy then really you give me no room to try to find the innocence in your slot

you literally said i have my panties in a knot and trying to claim im overreacting over 1 vote that didnt even happen

this is just scum narrative building

trying to frame it as you trying to "solve" my slot in good faith is a joke and absolutely hilarious

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

You really believe you just got the scum team in page 16 Pooky?

Your "confidence" is

RIDICULOUS

i'm always ridiculous

I've never seen you be this "ridiculously" combative/defensive from the get-go but I'll admit I don't have extensive experience with you

keep trying this "defensive" framing/spin

if i see someone do something scummy im going to call it out as scummy

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

You thought Cakez was likely scum but thought T-Bone being dodgy about it and not voting you instead even when he said he felt inclined to do so wasn't associative?

You think me egging him about it is the problem instead?

i think you trying to get him to vote the way you want without stating a read on cakez is classic scum trying to control lim direction without committing to reads and the way you waffle on cakes smells awful

If I wanted to lead votes on you I would have voted you

The unique reason I'm not voting you yet is because the way you're playing towards me seems like powerwolf trying to overplay me except I'm not easy to mislim

yes that makes so much sense shirou.
you're not voting for me because you think i am a POWAWOLF and those are RARE CREATURES that must not be voted.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I wish I could say that I'm going to be the bigger man and step away from the thread to let it breath so its not me fighting the entire scum team 1v3 but the truth is I have a party to go to and ill be filthy drunk so i probably wont post shit for the rest of the night

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

the detailed plan i was expecting shirou to post is

this game is designed around these items right

and these items are all usable to increase scum voting power except they get turned off at elo

but elo isnt really elo

like 4-5 is elo but if you have a daykill then 4-6 is elo, if you have 2 daykills then 4-7 is elo.

so lets say theres a scum team and they get 2 double voters, that means at 4-7 they can force an elim with 6 votes[4+2]

next day opens at 4-6, they use 2 daykills they reach parity they win the game

this can be extended foward even to 4-8 if you can chain up double voters to have - for example if scum have 5 double voters

thats the mech plan id expect shirou-scum to come up with

instead he said some bullshit about a mystery box

the town counter play is to not let any1 scummy get points, track every point, and force burnoffs with the messaging item to people who are trusted

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

ok im actually going to get drunk now have fun kiddos

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

the detailed plan i was expecting shirou to post is

this game is designed around these items right

and these items are all usable to increase scum voting power except they get turned off at elo

but elo isnt really elo

like 4-5 is elo but if you have a daykill then 4-6 is elo, if you have 2 daykills then 4-7 is elo.

so lets say theres a scum team and they get 2 double voters, that means at 4-7 they can force an elim with 6 votes[4+2]

next day opens at 4-6, they use 2 daykills they reach parity they win the game

this can be extended foward even to 4-8 if you can chain up double voters to have - for example if scum have 5 double voters

thats the mech plan id expect shirou-scum to come up with

instead he said some bullshit about a mystery box

the town counter play is to not let any1 scummy get points, track every point, and force burnoffs with the messaging item to people who are trusted

REMEMBER THIS DO NOT LET ANYONE FUCKING ACCUMULATE POINTS FORCE PEOPLE TO USE THEIR POINTS ON SENDING EACH OTHER LOVE NOTES OR SOME SHIT I DONT CARE

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

im drunk

shirou is scum

that is all

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i feel it in my soul

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

the only tegret i have is that i cant challenge shiroj right nos

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

im drunk but i just wanted everyone to know shirou and norwee r sitting in a scum tree together

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i will literallt self vote and get myself elimmed if everyonenpromises me to kill shirou afterwards

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

and then kill his minions norweee and alisae

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

im down for the ultimate sacrifice lol hero arc

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

im not gonna pretend like i wven tried to solve shit this fame

cuz i didnt

but shirou


that dude is scum

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i teied to rwD shifuy but i puked frrm
c the. scim intent

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

listen to your heart

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

if you rank my team high i promiee i will use my poknts on ariting a note to shirou that says fuck you scumbag

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

good talk ttbone

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

personally i think every team should commit to burning all their points asap

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

burn baby burn

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

theres absolutely no way alisae can possibly think my scum game is sloppy drunk levels of lolcatting

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

FAKE READS

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

FAKE READS

Can you explain?

there is no world in which

"penguin cakez Norwee Shirou Freedom - I have 2 wolves in this pair. Probably 3 but 4 if Pooky is town"

is a real thought that went through alisae's head

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

the difference between 2-3-4 is like jumping from a mountain to a valley

it implies a differing view of the strength of alisae's townreads in the entire upper section of the read chart that hinges exactly on my alignment which makes no sense since my role in this game has been supporting cast to gamma and random dude who pops in and shouts a lot about random shit

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

like r u seriously telling me you cant tell the difference between having 2/5 and 4/5 in the bottom of your reads

it just reeks of scum trying to keep multiple mislims in play

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i might be too drunk to give real critical analysis but I WILL DEFINITELY REREAD WHEN IM SOBER

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i love your solving process i just dont think its it

like i remember your first readlist in smokefilled had comments next to each name

here you just look like you're stuffing a bunch of possible lims into a pile and saying hey the entire scum team might be here or maybe not depending on if pookys town

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

letting wolfy players pick the challenges just means baddies get to pick and choose which LHF has enough support to go over and laser target the shit out of vulnerable townies

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

imagine thinking the entire poe is consensus scumread but being mad about kowtowing rofl what even is this state of mind

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

the problem I have with your posting is that I feel like its manipulative and lacks any real critical thought.

for example let's look at your most recent burst of posting.

770: Basically offering to step back from the 1v1 and trying to say you don't care as much - you can kind of interpret this as an olive branch to me like "ok im going to care less and make things more fun instead of bad"

like it frames our conflict as inherently toxic or bad and you're being the bigger person by detaching/taking a step back. But like this doesn't actually make sense if you don't come to the belief that I am actually town here and we are misunderstanding each other - a conclusion you don't really try to reach here.

771: This feels like you trying to de-escalate and looking for a reason to townread me but not really and also pointing to a situation that happened in the past which is TvT and you misread someone. Again the parallels here don't apply because:.

(1) you misread Maria, she didn't misread you, it was a one sided tunnel where you forced her elim and she called you a tunneled townie the entire time and never really tried to yeet you. Our situation is a 2 sided 1v1 where both of us are screaming the other person is scum - it's completely different in terms of analysis and what's going down. I find it hard for me to believe you think these situations are comparable - neither of us really are at risk of being eliminated - if anything it feels like you are trying to placate me from challenging you immediately after the current challenge is over and this mindset is weird to me because we don't actually have a cakes flip so I don't understand how you think you will know my mindset post cakes flip before even knowing what cakes will flip as. I feel like this is almost pre-flipping cakes as scum and you are worried that i will be piss full of confidence and cockiness and immediately slam down a challenge on you post giddiness at cakes flip.

Also like what even is this point about even if you're right there will be drama post game? I don't understand this mindset- if you're right that I'm scum and you yeet me why would there be any drama post game? Isn't that just normal play?

772: irrelevant

773: whats wrong with the vibes of this game. who's not having fun here.

774: This feels like you're trying to say something about the gamestate being bad if its TvTs but I don't buy it as a serious thought because it lacks any critical thought about what the scum team is doing if this game state actually is a bunch of TvTs. Like it feels like you want to get people to step back from pushing/attacking each other because you know things do not go well for your team if it keeps going like this and you need to convince us the game state is toxic TvTs in order to get it back to a state that you can manipulate.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

like the very premise you came up with which is Pooky is trying to powerwolf this game is nonsensical because I literally came in saying "yo im here to chill and i dont give a fuck about solving" and then Gamma challenged while I was in the middle of grilling you about mech - like I didn't expect her to just go all in on that.

Like sure you might think I'm some kind of godlike master manipulator who has strings in gamma's head and I'm just getting her to challenge Cakes for the lulz - but like I didn't put the idea Gamma thinks she knows how to read Cakes in Gamma's head. Gamma has always said she thinks she knows how to read Cakes. All I did was nod and say sure if you wanna do it then do it i dont care because

i really don't care

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

why are you saying "perhaps" rather than just voting him then

Because I'm shading Pooky obviously

I see

still not voting though?

You've complained that I'm treating you in bad faith by assuming that this sequence is Scum!You trying the world's most unsubtle manipulation of T-bone.

Ok sure let's say I've misread your intentions here.

Tell me what you were actually trying to do then.

are you trying to "sort" T-bone? Are you trying to get him to vote me for ??? reason? Are you trying to gotcha him for not voting?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

do you think you have many thoughts other than what you got from our 1v1s? You admitted to not have even attempted to seriously solve the game outside of your read on me while drinking

yea i was fighting alisae too

p weird how you claim to not have a read on e while both of you are trying to claim I'm having a "meltie" and "have my panties in a bunch" at the same time.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

VOTE: PookytheMagicalBear

He gived me only 40k

its almost 3 million rubles!

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I did think you had a bit of a "melt" tho, you went from 0 to 100 in a few posts

its not often someone randomly decides to start openwolfing right in front of me - I find it downright insulting

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I did think you had a bit of a "melt" tho, you went from 0 to 100 in a few posts

its not often someone randomly decides to start openwolfing right in front of me - I find it downright insulting

I'm cheeky like that sometimes I forget I rolled town and start scum siding, lying a bit or "openwolfing"

this is cute and all but if you know what you did is openwolfing why r u surprised that I think you're mafia openwolfing.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

is this a mafia game or an openwolf competition

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I'm basing this on my meta knowledge. We've been chatting on Discord for a long time so i feel like i'm probably the best judge of character on their alignment. Haven't been wrong a single time so far. (Well, minus our first game together back in like 2019)

like r u actually going to explain your meta knowledge or just keep going "trust me bro we talk on discord"

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

also just because i have a different read on shirou and think you're making shit up how does this make me scum

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I realize this will just make my position worse like every single time ever. But it’s really annoying how i try to get a footing and everyone susses me. Makes me empathic for Cakez. Like what has he done, nothing. But Gamma just thunderdomed them. I also hate the vibes Pooky and to an extent Shirou has created in this game. I’ll be honest, i didn’t really townread Shirou. I just think one of them must be scum and i’d much rather believe it’s Pooky.

VOTE: Pooky

lol vibes go fuck yourself

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

so i disagreed with you on a read you LITERALLY MADE UP and i'm the bad guy for sussing you?.

FOR YOU MAKING UP A READ THAT YOU LITERALLY DONT HAVE RECEIPTS FOR

JUST LOL OK

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

More over the top outrage

you're the one complaining that i'm not letting you get a foothold in the game for calling you out on your fake read but sure

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I thought it would help me get a better read of the game if i could analyze Shirou and Pooky reactions. Unfortunately Shirou kinda ignored me so i decided to just get clean cus everyone sussed me and it didn’t help me so whatever.

ok so whats your analysis of me thinking your read of shirou is full of shit

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Ur just loud and shitting up the game so i don’t townread you.

this literally doesnt answer my question

also thats not even a read thats an issue you have with my personality

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

you should keep the coaching session in the scum pt

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

you should keep the coaching session in the scum pt

u have been nothing but antagonistic this whole game

the first thing i said to you was "sup qt"

and the first thing you said to me was "lol why are your panties in a bunch"

in case you forgot how we got here.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

also thats a funny joke if you two are actually mafia together

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

my read on you is that you're mafia who is exasperated with tsq because you said what you thought optimal play was and then he dunked on it and you've been trying to make him happy and think you're not mafia ever since which is grating on you because you think you think you are right and he is wrong but arguing with him about it is only going to make him double down on your being scum so you're trying to backpedal into a position where he gets bored of poking at you and finds something more interesting to look at.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

cake can you just bus your three teammates i gotta get this game wrapped up before I go golfing this weekend

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

cake can you just bus your three teammates i gotta get this game wrapped up before I go golfing this weekend

Now he's trying to speed the lim.

its a joke because its too cold to go golfing

also lol what the fuck are you talking about speed the lim

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

cake can you just bus your three teammates i gotta get this game wrapped up before I go golfing this weekend

Now he's trying to speed the lim.

its a joke because its too cold to go golfing

also lol what the fuck are you talking about speed the lim

Well i want to hear what Cakez has to say so your attitude is kinda going against that. And that makes me think of how scum!you likes to play. I still remember that game where you were scum with Not_Mafia and basically creating a gamestate where everyone needed to rush the game and listen to everything you say.

that mini normal? r u trolling we didnt rush anything that game was slow as fuck

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

cake can you just bus your three teammates i gotta get this game wrapped up before I go golfing this weekend

Now he's trying to speed the lim.

its a joke because its too cold to go golfing

also lol what the fuck are you talking about speed the lim

Well i want to hear what Cakez has to say so your attitude is kinda going against that. And that makes me think of how scum!you likes to play. I still remember that game where you were scum with Not_Mafia and basically creating a gamestate where everyone needed to rush the game and listen to everything you say.

that mini normal? r u trolling we didnt rush anything that game was slow as fuck

Well maybe the time and space continuum got messed up by ur constant scummy thread dabbing cus i remember it being fast.

not_mafia literally got replaced for inactivity because he didnt post

the game was a series of TvT fights and I was dying mostly from boredom

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

why the fuck does scum me even pick a fight with someone i literally cant vote rofl.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

alisae openwooofing is hilarious

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

literally laughing my ass off

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

like even if you yeet me what r u going to do tommorrow

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I don't believe you didnt know about money, by the way. It's been referenced in every post by the mod, it was in the sign up thread, I asked a clarification question about it. You're a person who is frequently known for delving into mech and game theory.

I believe that was an attempt at a deliberate dumb tell.

does anyone even do dumbtells as scum? i have never ONCE seen scum dumbtell it's always just town who were actually dumb

Actual scum dumbtell might be more common than fake ones but I think both are possible
And like, Ali was proposing a strategy that would give scummy players more control

especially

given the mechanics of the game, and when called out on it eir reaction was being pissed at being suspected for putting out an actively bad idea
Feel like town would at least try to process the ramifications of their suggestion, even if they didn’t want to give it up completely

i think ali!scum actually thought the suggestion was protown by widening the vote range. thats why alisae is mad to get caught out on it because ali thinks ali is right and getting caught for the wrong reasons is really tilting for ali

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

no i don't think it's pooky i'm probably not going to vote there so it's gotta be one of cakez or t-bone

yes im probably a sucker but i don't think drunk pooky comes in with that conviction of killing shirou among other things

I think it's possible
that guy can do anything

this kind of paranoia spew literally makes no sense on d1

like maybe it makes sense if my scumreads are wrong but doing it now when we have 0 flips is just trolling.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i have drunkposted as scum b4

i think that Team mafia and tenet r examples off top of my head

was there something else u were thinking of

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i drunk post as town too

my favorite drunk post as town game was silent star 4

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

maybe i just like drinking too much

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

if cakes flips scum im gonna guess std haschel and freedom r all town

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i can see that

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

at no point have i actually believed alisae thinks im mafia

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

wolf intent rofl what

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I think with Pooky's play he's just trying to start as much drama as possible and keep it going I think game would be more fun without him

I should clarify that I think him trying to start as much drama as possible has wolf intent

how the fuck is it me starting drama when shirou was literally trying to manipulate tbone into voting me

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

alisae lying thru alisaes teeth st this point

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i jumped on shirou because shirou was trying to manipulate tbone into voting me

this is an act with no town motivation but plenty of scum motivation

alisae then claimed i had "my panties in a bunch" cuz i attacked shirou which is bullshit framing

norwee then claimed he townread shirou - i attacked his townread. he now claims it was made up after backpedalling

now ali is claiming that im the one starting drama

no fuck off

i didnt start shit

all three of you are scummy as fuck

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Pooky u seem super manipulative like I think ur making this really hard :/

wtf r u even talking about

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

yea my scum master plan is to pick fights with people i cant vote

that makes so much sense alisae

gold star

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

It's not about who started the drama it's more about ur over the top reaction imo.

am i supposed to not react when someone does somethjng scummy

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

what outrage r u even talking about

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

like you keep framing me as outraged

but i dont think you understand shit

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

like it feels like u want to convince everyone that my actions are unacceptable cuz vibes and you dont actually think im mafia

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

yea my scum master plan is to pick fights with people i cant vote

that makes so much sense alisae

gold star

Do you really see no scum benefit to attacking someone who can't be voted?

I think its a really dumb play

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

if you get townread off it then its good

but that townread cred disappears if you flip the person youre attacking down the line and they flip town

so strategically you are increasing your own heat for little if any gain.

its extremely suboptimal to do this

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

most of your complaint with me isnt that im scummy

you r complaining that im loud

i have played a lot of games with you

being loud is not scum indicative for me

in fact if anything i tend to be much louder as town than as scum

so the idea that you are scumreading me on loudness is just ridiculous and i have no reason to think thats an actual read.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i jumped on shirou because shirou was trying to manipulate tbone into voting me

this is an act with no town motivation but plenty of scum motivation

i pressed him to take a stand for what seemed to be his thought at the time, even if i was testing him into voting you which i was, i still don't get how it makes you jump to treating me as conf-scum-never-flipping-town-ever

i've threatened people into voting someone/taking action multiple times, and most of them were for eliminations not for a singular vote

the real reason you've an issue with this is because i was suggesting voting your slot, regardless of your alignment, regardless of whether you're even aware of it, i'm 100% sure this is the case here

you were trying to manipulate him into voting

thats different than you voting me and telling him to sheep you

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

VOTE: Pooky

If you flip town I'll demand Shirou/Alisae/Norwee whoever, how bout that

im cool with being flipped if everyone agrees to deadsheep me

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

my preference is shirou-> alisae -> norwee

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

VOTE: tbone

I dont want to flip cakes.

I think pooky and gamma are town.

i really doubt tbone/shirou have the convo they do if they r s/s

the way tbone reacted to shirou trying to manipulate him into voting me was pretty townie

i dont think it makes sense to flip either t-bone or gamma today

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

VOTE: Pooky

If you flip town I'll demand Shirou/Alisae/Norwee whoever, how bout that

im cool with being flipped if everyone agrees to deadsheep me

call

you need to get 6 other people to agree to it and then you and those 6 people need to actually follow thru after my post flip

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

so

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

get the agreements and ill happily vote myself off and hold you and those 6 to the contract

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

like you're offering me a deal you have to show you can make good on payment

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

im not interested in your useless push

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i have literally never misread alisae as far as i remember. i might have forgotten

alisae can correct me if this is wrong

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

when i flip town if you dont lim shirou right after you r game throwing

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

shirou is scum that is all

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

shirou doesnt even believe im mafia

hes just voting me to shut me up

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

waaah waaah ate

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

you know i flip town because you're mafia

you need to shut me up to win

your excuses r comical atp

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

your mindset is all over the place

you cant decide if you are slot trading with me because you suspect me

voting me because im wrong town and you need me gone

or guilt tripping me for supposedly being wrong on town you

you've flipped thru more emotional states than a actor on his first hollywood audition

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

also how does it even make sense for town you to think slot trading with me to shut me up when im town make sense

me flipping town gets you flipped

which is the trade you say you want

except it gets me flipped too

which is questionable since you say im town and you're guilt tripping me for being wrong on you?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i have literally never misread alisae as far as i remember. i might have forgotten

alisae can correct me if this is wrong

U misread me when I am town I think it’s been awhile I think in a normal you might have misread me as a wolf when I was town

cite the game

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Shirou's histrionics are getting even more outrageous


I just want to respond to his claims about toxicity.


(1) I am not a toxic person.
(2) I have nothing against Shirou or anyone else here as a player, a person or anything.
(3) This is a game, I am treating it as a game. It is not a matter of life or death - I will feel absolutely nothing if I get reads wrong or w/e because being wrong is human.
(4) I am making every effort to get everyone's alignments correct. I understand I may get things wrong. I understand the rest of you might get my alignment wrong. That is fine.
(5) I am having a lot of fun this game, I enjoy playing with each and every one of you.
(6) The accusations that I am making this game unreadable, unplayable, or toxic are in my opinion completely unfounded in even basic reality.
(7) If I call you mafia it is not a grave cosmic injustice - I am following my reads at each moment in time. I trust you will do the same.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

people take mafia wayyy too seriously lmao just have fun and don't break the rules

at no point have i taken this game seriously

I enjoy shooting the shit with Shirou because his reactions are absolutely hilarious and I love winding him up

I think he is not only scum but he came in the game with the express goal of making me townread him or some shit because he thinks pocketing me since I'm "paragon" is like cool beans bragging rights

and it's driving him absolutely bananas that regardless of what random trick he pulls out of his bag of tricks my reaction is always "lol ok scum"

like dude it's so simple to convince me you're town. Just figure out who the scum are, try to get them limmed, if they flip scum i'll probably think you're town for a bit. Don't do stupid ass obvscum plays.

All his AtE Shenanigans are just making me think he's scum even more.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i have literally never misread alisae as far as i remember. i might have forgotten

alisae can correct me if this is wrong

U misread me when I am town I think it’s been awhile I think in a normal you might have misread me as a wolf when I was town

cite the game

viewtopic.php?f=53&t=86100

1.
2. I miss hectic.
3. yea i misread you early but I had you correctly read by the end of Day 1. Being wrong on the initial read doesn't count they can't all be bangers.
4. my tunnel target was Farkran who was scum and for some reason people wouldnt let me lim him even tho he was openwolfing the shit out of the game.
5. my pool of 3 scumreads was 2/3 at EOD so it wasnt even that bad - sure I whiffed on SS but I can never read that dude.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I feel like there has to be scum in freedom/furtive

looks at Freedom

They got replaced by Titus, who just voted you (to save Pooky)

so Titus is mafia with me now?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

is this a serious read

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

is this a serious read

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

is this a serious read

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

is this a serious read
???????

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

is this a serious read
!?!?!?!?!??!?!?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

ok just wanted you to make that serious

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

if i flip town and furtive tries to eliminate Titus, murder Furtive first

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

if i flip town and furtive tries to eliminate Titus, murder Furtive first

bet
call
done deal

you can't call me when you literally don't have the votes

it's like calling a bet with no money

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I have been making the case for some time now that Shirou's antics come from a place of performative bullshit and not an actual town player so I'm going to explain a bit why by analyzing two sequences.

If you think I am wrong about this feel free to explain how these sequences actually make sense from a town player to me.

Spoiler: Shirou Ate

shirou doesnt even believe im mafia

hes just voting me to shut me up

EXACTLY actually

I think you flip town more often than you flip scum but I'm voting you because not only I'm never letting scum!you get one over me like this, even if you're town I'm just repaying the favor

you've been throwing the same shit in this thread since the game

started

I didn't even wanted to do this pooky but you're being unplayable levels of obnoxious this game and this is coming from ME, SHIROU

The game challenge mechanic makes it so that anyone that wants to can literally, not only figuratively as I often do, but LITERALLY force the game to go along with them

When I scream/spam in the thread people still have a CHOICE of who to vote, we don't here as long as you keep challenging whoever you want like this even if most aren't interested on it

if scum get punished but if town we're gonna talk in the dead thread

Spoiler: More Shirou AtE

If you negated challenge and Pooky did anything other than challenge my team it's in fact a scum claim from him considering how he has been acting so far

in fact has he SAID HE WOULD DO THIS? Go along with you?

Gamma this is important

DON'T LIE

Gamma it's literally a scum claim if he did

LITERALLY

You think he talks so much about hero arc blah blah self-voting blah blah if he's not deadly and unmistakably sure his solve is correct?

if he's considering right now that he's nearly yeeted it's literally just him backpedalling

These two pieces of AtE take place ~ 1 hour apart tonight. I believe they are both designed for AtE and not an actual mindset by Shirou because by their very content they are contradictory.


The first piece of AtE is a complaint that Pooky has made this game so toxic and so overwhelming for him that he is forcing a 1 for 1 trade with me to make it bearable for him to play or w/e. He claims the nature of the game is such that I am holding it hostage and being overwhelmingly obnoxious and that I must be ended for it to regain any semblance of normalcy.

The second piece of AtE is claiming that if I were to actually reconsider his slot and get cold feet on challenging him, I would be scum-claiming and should be autoyeeted.

These two emotions are in conflict. According to AtE1, I am a toxic obnoxious asshole who must be yeeted to make the game playable because I refuse to consider Shirou town. The second part says if I am actually reconsidering then I must be a backpedaling scumbag because how could someone who is that sure decide to change his mind?

Like what the fuck is that? So I'm a dickhead if I don't change my mind but i'm a scumbag if I do change my mind? Sounds like he just wants me dead no matter what. Why can't town!pooky change his mind on Shirou?

The goal of these two pieces of AtE are to make the case that Pooky should die

regardless

of what Pooky actually does.

My actions are not actually important here - his framing is that I should be killed regardless of what my actions are because I'm either scum, bad, or obnoxious no matter what path I take.

I don't see how this view can possibly come from a town player because like what does he actually want? He says in ATE part 1 that he thinks im probably town but i've made the game so unplayable for him and others that I must be yeeted because I refuse to ever reconsider him- and he says in ATE 2 that if I do reconsider then I'm backpedaling scum who is trying to get out of 1v1ing him with a direct challenge. This mindset doesn't make actual sense from town POV. What is Town Him actually supposed to want here IF he thinks I'm town? The obvious answer is for me[pooky] to give him[shirou] a chance to prove he's town.

What is the reasonable offer for him to make to me here? it's p simple I'll explain it below:



"Hi Pooky, I know you think I'm mafia, you're wrong, I am a pretty good scumhunter tho and I think ____ is mafia so I'm willing to make you a deal, you work with me just on this one lim, give me a chance to get a baddie and let's go from there ok? This game is nightless so it sucks ass to bus but I think you'll agree I should be given at least one shot to nail some bad guys"

Instead his entire narrative arc towards me is to paint himself as some kind of victim of my obnoxious push that overarches the entire game and makes it unplayable for him.

But look at what is actually happening in the game and you tell me if my "pressure" on him is actually making it unplayable for him.

Am I actually voting for Shirou? Is lots of people lining up to vote shirou? The answer is a resounding no - it is literally impossible for this to happen. It's pretty easy for him to simply ignore me and scumhunt on his own.

He complains about the structure of the game being that I can simply hijack it with challenging him immediately. Except like why is this a concern? I can't challenge him right now and if he developed a scumread on someone, he can simply challenge them before I challenge him. In fact he can even declare to me something along the lines of "DO NOT CHALLENGE ME POOKY I WILL CHALLENGE SOMEONE ELSE FIRST AND IT SHOULD BE THE SAME TO YOU"

If he wanted to make sure I don't challenge him or interfere with his desire to play the game his way.

Instead he feels incredible pressure and says I am being unplayable levels of toxic to him. Which like ok but how does that make sense?

If there is anything you do read this last part of analysis

Why is Pooky calling Shirou scum over and over again

"I didn't even wanted to do this pooky but you're being unplayable levels of obnoxious this game and this is coming from ME, SHIROU"

why is he saying that to me.

I am not voting for Shirou. I can't vote for Shirou. In fact the likely lim person today is me, not Shirou. so why is it that he considers my pressure on him unbearable and making the game obnoxious and toxic for HIM.

Put yourself in his shoes. Why is Pooky saying this making HIM feel the need to pull out all this ATE.

If Pooky is

mafia

then this pressure literally means NOTHING to him because Pooky flips before Shirou does.

If Shirou is

uninformed

of Pooky's alignment and actually thinks Pooky could be scumclaiming by backpedalling or w/e nonsense he wrote - then he shouldn't CARE about Pooky's pressure because the pressure can't

actually do anything to him

Shirou can't be voted right now! Pooky is like 2-3 votes from flipping. There's no actual need to deal with scum!pooky, just flip him and laugh at him.

I believe Shirou

knows

that I am flipping as town and that is why my pressure on him is like an unbearable anvil to him - he knows what I flip as and he is pissed off he can't convince me that he is town and he's going to have to bear that and that's why he's been so upset at me saying he's scum.

because he knows that I am going to flip as town and theres a good chance he gets flipped right afterwards if people listen to me.

That's why he's screaming that I'm making the game unplayable levels of toxic or obnoxious or w/e then he has the excuse that I deserved to be limmed for being an obnoxious asshole post my flip and I shouldnt be listened to.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Pookers you don't like Furtive either?

yea

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I said if you try to murder Titus after my town flip you doofus

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

yes yes yes yes

A thousand times yes

I scumread you both and the voting fits

the point I am making is that you are making a linked scumread - you are saying Titus+Pooky = a scumteam and Titus is voting me because she is scum motivated to save her scum teammate[Pooky]

So if I flip as TOWN

you should not be pushing Titus anymore because the very basis of your linked scumread fell apart and you need to re-evaluate Titus.

If you just ignore my townflip and push Titus anyway you're scumclaiming.

This literally has nothing to do with my scumread on Shirou/Alisae