Micro 1084 | Quantum Mafia | Game Over

[Doctor Drew]

VOTE: Aliana

Into the box you go!

[Doctor Drew]

Unfortunately I am not cult this game.

[Doctor Drew]

Unfortunately I am not cult this game.

Oof.
Unfortunately, I am not me this game.

Oh thank God

[Doctor Drew]

Oh wait, mod just confirmed to me in my PT that I am in fact the cult leader.

Today just got better.

[Doctor Drew]

Wait another update from the mod.

I only win with town, crazy I know.

[Doctor Drew]

I think we should try to put bugspray into the box and see what happens.

Wait. This is Quantum Mafia. So maybe the box is like Schrödinger's cat, where they put the cat in the box, give it a 50/50 chance of being poisoned, and it's simultaneously dead and alive until they open the box back up and then it's one or the other.
I wonder how that would translate into a mafia game.

^
Sorry if I just butchered quantum physics, I'm not a scientist.

Is that my new record for fastest mainslip?

Oh, I never would have guessed that Aliana was actually Alianna.....what am I Sherlock Holmes?

[Doctor Drew]

VOTE: heipizhu

Hardest name to type out btw lol

[Doctor Drew]

Bianco, why so worried about votes on heip(thank you for the shorthand suggestion lol).

[Doctor Drew]

Last bastard game I was in, which just ended and Bianco was there as well, I tried to get info in the PT I had(I was a solo mason.....ya, I know), didn't work there but maybe there is a reason we all(or at least I assume we all) have them?

Also Bianco, what is your first language?

[Doctor Drew]

Please don't tell me this as easy as just Bianco/heip.

[Doctor Drew]

Anyone else just wanna wing this and play it like a regular game of Mafia until the mechanics screws us over?

Lol, I do kinda vibe with this.

[Doctor Drew]

Anyone else just wanna wing this and play it like a regular game of Mafia until the mechanics screws us over?

Lol, I do kinda vibe with this.

What I would like to see is the kind doctor following through with this.

I mainly plan on it, especially since overall trying to mech talk through a bastard game is pretty foolish.

Also heip, are you Demona?

[Doctor Drew]

Why unvote them Merlyn?

[Doctor Drew]

Anyone else just wanna wing this and play it like a regular game of Mafia until the mechanics screws us over?

Lol, I do kinda vibe with this.

This is probably a good approach.
The Quantum Goon PM says mafia can put people into a box, so I don't imagine being put in there is anything good. We can probably just vote like normal.

But....

What's in the box?!?(In my best Brad Pitt voice)

[Doctor Drew]

Anyone else just wanna wing this and play it like a regular game of Mafia until the mechanics screws us over?

Lol, I do kinda vibe with this.

This is probably a good approach.
The Quantum Goon PM says mafia can put people into a box, so I don't imagine being put in there is anything good. We can probably just vote like normal.

But....

What's in the box?!?(In my best Brad Pitt voice)

Uhhh...cyanide, probably.

Ugh.

You are the worst Alainnna

Pre Edit: I get that Alaina, but.....scum is less likely to lolHammer, they are more likely to to be worried about a buddy being at E-1 though....

Merlyn, why didn't you announce they were at E-1 when you voted them, did you not realize the VC at that point?

[Doctor Drew]

Anyone else just wanna wing this and play it like a regular game of Mafia until the mechanics screws us over?

Lol, I do kinda vibe with this.

This is probably a good approach.
The Quantum Goon PM says mafia can put people into a box, so I don't imagine being put in there is anything good. We can probably just vote like normal.

But....

What's in the box?!?(In my best Brad Pitt voice)

uh, I already made this pop culture reference, get your own Drew!

Sonuvabitch.

Well at least we can both agree that Alina is the worst for not getting the reference.

[Doctor Drew]

to be fair, Drew and I are ancients who are referencing Se7en, a movie made in 1995.

Saw it in the theaters(somewhat illegally since I was only 16), the sloth scene still gets me to this day.

[Doctor Drew]

Anyone else just wanna wing this and play it like a regular game of Mafia until the mechanics screws us over?

Lol, I do kinda vibe with this.

This is probably a good approach.
The Quantum Goon PM says mafia can put people into a box, so I don't imagine being put in there is anything good. We can probably just vote like normal.

But....

What's in the box?!?(In my best Brad Pitt voice)

Uhhh...cyanide, probably.

Ugh.

You are the worst Alainnna

Pre Edit: I get that Alaina, but.....scum is less likely to lolHammer, they are more likely to to be worried about a buddy being at E-1 though....

Merlyn, why didn't you announce they were at E-1 when you voted them, did you not realize the VC at that point?

I am a little worried on how you are trying to mostly paint a bunch of associatives aroud heip. Those are not great at the start of D1, and apparently you have already found heip+bianco

and

heip+Merlyn assocs

I find Heip the most scummy at this point, I am just asking questions about those acting around them.

Unfortunately it does revolve around two people I always scum read at some point as well lol.

[Doctor Drew]

I agree Drew's theories are sketchy.
That means he's town, right?

So... how does saying sketchy stuff

means

is town?

I wasn't being 100% serious with that.
I also realized I haven't played with scum!Drew yet so maybe trying to make meta reads (even though that was not a serious one) there is a bad idea.

I have a scum game that just ended, with a scum victory.....if you want to read up on scumDrew.

I want all to see me in my top(and extremely lucky at some points) scum form.

[Doctor Drew]

There was a vibe I was getting so I voted them, felt like it was better than to just say they are hitting me in he vibes. I am not searching partners per se as well, but I found it interesting that Bianco had an issue with a couple votes in Heip.

And Merlyn's unvote of heip most certainly could come from scum, especially if they didn't realize they put them at E-1.

I know as town, even after realizing it was E-1, I would probably keep my vote there.

[Doctor Drew]

There was a vibe I was getting so I voted them, felt like it was better than to just say they are hitting me in he vibes. I am not searching partners per se as well, but I found it interesting that Bianco had an issue with a couple votes in Heip.

And Merlyn's unvote of heip most certainly could come from scum, especially if they didn't realize they put them at E-1.

I know as town, even after realizing it was E-1, I would probably keep my vote there.

So you're finding heip's answers to be scummy? I personally have them in the 'keep an eye on, but move on for now' box

It was a vibe, like I said, there really wasn't a strong 'obv scum' vibe....but enough to drop a purposeful naked vote, and the let Jesus take the wheel.

Why did you vote them in the first place? And why did you say I don't want them to die right now(paraphrasing, too lazy too go back for your exact quote lol). I actually am leaning more that you were scum jumping on a mis-elim and the had an oh fuck moment when you realized it was an E-1 vote.

I want to here from Heip though, I asked a question of them I don't believe they answered.

[Doctor Drew]

Update: 109 is making more sense than it was before, please hold while I have an existential crisis over my reads.

Fwiw, Jason is a player that will be town to me until something jumps out at me. Even though he burned us as scum once, I want to believe that power can help town even more, plus I recently subbed into his town slot recently(as you know), so I feel I was able to see how the sausage is made.

This one concerns me the most. Saying you had 3 posts and that the posts gave little information is not shade, it's just a fact. He didn't even scumread you for it or imply that your low post count was scummy. The vote feels a little defensive.

It is shade bc it's completely out of context. It reads like I'm lurking. The missing context is that the game had opened literally less than one day ago, I slept 8 hours of that 21 hours and still posted 3 times. It wasn't possible to give any information bc the posts till that point are RVS and game mech theory.

Let me clear here in case I'm not: I'm not personally hurt or something. It always pings me when I see folks who post things that are worded in a misleading way. It's a good way to control the narrative as the game evolves.

I think you're reading too much into it. They made reads on the entire playerlist, what were they going to say about you other than "neutral, no info"?
I really don't see how that post was painting you as lurking or trying to control the narrative about you, and it seems strange to me to imply that it is.

VOTE: Merlyn

I might be reading too much into it, but I didn't imply anything, I flat out said that the post was doing those things and I pointed out why. We can not agree on it, but thinking it's strange that I brought it up is a bit much.

I don't like when Mommy and Mommy fight.

Except that one is bad VOTE: Merlyn

Pre Edit: I feel you wanted to make sure the wagon had traction, didn't realize it was a E-1 vote, and then got scared of the optics of it.

[Doctor Drew]

I'm really not seeing what some of you are seeing with heip, and some of the votes there are very questionable.

Feels kinda weird that you ignored my vote, is there a reason for that?

Yeah, I was only quoting the questionable ones.
I can comment on it though, give me a minute.

I mean how is my vote more or less questionable then Drew's?

Seems odd that you'd call out Drew, but not me for the vote.

UNVOTE: heipizhu4
VOTE: Aliana

Why is it scummy that she only addressed me but not you?

[Doctor Drew]

Fwiw, Jason is a player that will be town to me until something jumps out at me. Even though he burned us as scum once, I want to believe that power can help town even more, plus I recently subbed into his town slot recently(as you know), so I feel I was able to see how the sausage is made.

Not sure that the game your referencing is the best one to use honestly (especially since if i recall i replaced out fairly early on in the game)

Why is it scummy that she only addressed me but not you?

Feels like deliberately trying to avoid me, especially considering i don't see how my vote should be considered less questionable then yours.

Well I could see in more or less real time how you react to being scum read when you are town, I know it isn't a huge thing, but does help me out.

I'm really not seeing what some of you are seeing with heip, and some of the votes there are very questionable.

Feels kinda weird that you ignored my vote, is there a reason for that?

Yeah, I was only quoting the questionable ones.
I can comment on it though, give me a minute.

I mean how is my vote more or less questionable then Drew's?

Seems odd that you'd call out Drew, but not me for the vote.

UNVOTE: heipizhu4
VOTE: Aliana

I get why my wording there was unclear, I called him out there because he never provided any reasons for scumreading heip. You did, even if they were after the vote. My bad for wording it like I was solely focused on the votes.

No... no i didn't, i gave later reasons to scum read heip more, but i have never once explained the original reason for the vote.

That is a great point, we literally both dropped naked votes at basically the exact same time.

Also in general wanting a reason for a vote can come off as just posturing, and always pings me weird because a naked vote usually is done for a reason.

[Doctor Drew]

This does really seem like 'lack of confidence in reads' from Allan that I have seen multiple times from them as town.

[Doctor Drew]

This does really seem like 'lack of confidence in reads' from Allan that I have seen multiple times from them as town.

Yeah, that's town!me for you.
(also Allan? That might be the worst you've butchered it!)

Ok Alice, no need to get testy.

[Doctor Drew]

but I figured they were an alt

This can be esaily proven false. Check my account, and the only game I have played in is Newbie 2124 a month ago, where alt's are not allowed.

This has already come up, and Merlyn even realized they were wrong.

Are you trying to push an agenda or something....?

[Doctor Drew]

This does really seem like 'lack of confidence in reads' from Allan that I have seen multiple times from them as town.

Hey, have you played with Alessia as scum before? I haven't yet, but I think she's talented, enough that her scumplay could look like her townplay.

It is true that I have only seen scumAltoona in a hydra so I don't really have their scum game down(but I should probably look at that game again to see something in there hat can help), but I always get a transparency from their town game that I feel would be hard to fake if scum. Not gonna hard defend her per se, just I don't see much that tells me she is scum here.

[Doctor Drew]

There is no sample pm.
We have completely no idea how many scums are there

We don't even know whether a scum exist here lol

It's a mix of this stuff here is the reason i thought that i'm concerned with Heip.

Scum would be more worried about sample PM's it feels like, because town at least have a PM that is usable for claiming and whatnot, it's the scum that would potentially be more concerned of not having a sample PM.

Then the "no idea how many scum there is" this seems really weird, especially followed slightly after with "we don't know if they exist" there is no reason to think that we would be in a game with no scum.

This all adds up to me thinking that this is Scum.

Do you still feel this way?

It feels like a decent chance to be Newb-Scum in my opinion, especially given the later interactions with the slot.

Most newer players behave this way regardless of alignment. I'm not seeing what you're seeing.

Ircher, you seem to be going out of your way to defend Heip against any real heat. Major or minor.

[Doctor Drew]

I like Ircher's posting this page and generally agree with their points. I especially liked 228 as I had the exact same thought there.

Is that one of the posts where Ircher comes to the aid of Heip for some unknown reason?

[Doctor Drew]

Spoiler:

Spoiler:

My current reading list:
Merlyn, imagine, Alian(n)a: neutral
Not lots of posts, tbh. Merlyn has only made 3 posts (which gives little information), imagine has only 1 post in 12 as an rvs post, Aliana has some interactions with me, but kind of reluctant to think about the setup, not sure why
Doctor: a bit scumlean. Before 19, his post are all greeting posts, rather genuine. Then he skipped the gm discussion part, and voted for me. Kind of sussy, but I'll keep an eye in drew.
Bianco: townlean. Honestly. He has made several experiments on the setup, and his reasoning is fine on voting me, really.
ceej: neutral. Several one liners, just like his previous games.
Ircher: Hi, thanks for the defend! A tl on you, but not enough for a town read currently (cause the lack of information on the day1 of day1 lol)
Jason: I like his 101, but his scumread on me, idk, is 'single reasoned'. Not something I like. Neutral for now.

An ISO on myself: This player has done lots of lists and exploration on the setup, however, his intention to vote himself out is suspicious. Scumlean on him

That's another reason why I'm fine with you guys voting me. I tried to be 100% genuine here, but looking at myself's iso, I have sus on myself as well. Let's see what will happen next after I post this.

This is honestly one of the most frustrating things I see people in mafia doing. The game opened 21 hours ago , don't be throwing shade for 'low post count'. I don't like this whole, I have sus on myself thing... Like what? VOTE: hep

Could you elaborate more on why you think his behavior here is suspicious enough for the vote?

VOTE: bianco

I see your consider to sail on the bianco+heip ship with Drew.
I would be interested if you have any thoughts on me being the only townlean of heip. Also Drew and Jason, while we're at it.

...

Shouldn't you be more concerned about why I voted you?

I don't even scumread heip yet and nothing on the posts you quoted indicates that I'm on board with the bianco+heip plan.

Do you believe heip to be town then?

Lol no, I should not. And, given that you've queried Drew on heip basically on the same breath that you've cast an unexplained vote on me, I got the subtext that you may have been allured by that one's Drew's proposed pairing.
As you say it's not so, you're welcome to explain you vote if you wish

There is no sample pm.
We have completely no idea how many scums are there

We don't even know whether a scum exist here lol

I don't like how you quote my 37. This is a post dumping all my observations on the GMs and rules, and it seems you are wrongly pushing me by only quoting part of my posts.

Selective quoting is a pretty common practice (see, I'm even doing it while quoting your complaint, how meta), and isn't really a misquote at all; or an

inaccurate quote

for that matter. It's not like JW cherry picked pieces of your quote so that to change the meaning of the posted parts, the removed context is just extraneous to JW's point

Most newer players behave this way regardless of alignment. I'm not seeing what you're seeing.

Ircher, you seem to be going out of your way to defend Heip against any real heat. Major or minor.

And here we go again, new pairing just dropped. Can't be that everyone that interacts with heip is heip's partner, y'know

Point to where I said they could be partners please.

This discredit attempt is unlike you.....Io sono deluso.

I like Ircher's posting this page and generally agree with their points. I especially liked 228 as I had the exact same thought there.

Is that one of the posts where Ircher comes to the aid of Heip for some unknown reason?

Regardless of Ircher's read on heip, I thought that was a good question to be asking because really, where was the agenda?

Alaska, I don't believe I remember reading their read on Heip, nor did I comment on any read they had on Heip.

Heip even responded directly to me saying essentially they missed the post(Where I asked about a possible agenda), which is fine.

Ircher keeps going out of their way to WK Heip, and I am trying to figure out THAT motivation.

[Doctor Drew]

Point to where I said they could be partners please.

This discredit attempt is unlike you.....Io sono deluso.

"going out of your way" implies strong intent to me.

Ircher keeps going out of their way to WK Heip, and I am trying to figure out THAT motivation.

See, that would be the

other

interpretation but I though you were sr'ing heip?

Also Italian is usally pro-drop, the subject pronoun (

Io

in this case) generally can, and should, be dropped

(thou there are some rare exceptions)

I never really was scum reading Heip to hard, just an early vibe vote to see where it goes........and then

Jesus

Ircher took the wheel.

And I used google translate, my apologies lol.

[Doctor Drew]

I like Ircher's posting this page and generally agree with their points. I especially liked 228 as I had the exact same thought there.

Is that one of the posts where Ircher comes to the aid of Heip for some unknown reason?

Regardless of Ircher's read on heip, I thought that was a good question to be asking because really, where was the agenda?

Alaska, I don't believe I remember reading their read on Heip, nor did I comment on any read they had on Heip.

Heip even responded directly to me saying essentially they missed the post(Where I asked about a possible agenda), which is fine.

Ircher keeps going out of their way to WK Heip, and I am trying to figure out THAT motivation.

That piece wasn't so much a response to you as it was a general comment about the question.

I mean, they were lead wagon for a bit and there are definitely things to question in the push on them.
But I also kind of get what you mean with how many of their posts are doing that, and combined with the fact they haven't said they TR heip...
(wow, Alisha, make up your mind already!)

Do you not know how to spell your own name?

It is Aliana.....so weird.

[Doctor Drew]

I like Ircher's posting this page and generally agree with their points. I especially liked 228 as I had the exact same thought there.

Is that one of the posts where Ircher comes to the aid of Heip for some unknown reason?

Regardless of Ircher's read on heip, I thought that was a good question to be asking because really, where was the agenda?

Alaska, I don't believe I remember reading their read on Heip, nor did I comment on any read they had on Heip.

Heip even responded directly to me saying essentially they missed the post(Where I asked about a possible agenda), which is fine.

Ircher keeps going out of their way to WK Heip, and I am trying to figure out THAT motivation.

That piece wasn't so much a response to you as it was a general comment about the question.

I mean, they were lead wagon for a bit and there are definitely things to question in the push on them.
But I also kind of get what you mean with how many of their posts are doing that, and combined with the fact they haven't said they TR heip...
(wow, Alisha, make up your mind already!)

Do you not know how to spell your own name?

It is Aliana.....so weird.

No, you misspelled it so many times that I forgot how.

This is a total misrep.

Tell me where.

[Doctor Drew]

I never really was scum reading Heip to hard, just an early vibe vote to see where it goes........and then

Jesus

Ircher took the wheel.

Oh, I see, so you are suggesting WK'ing.

You don't like Merlyn and Ircher for uncompatible reasons that both depend on heip's flip, namely 141 and 249 (and also me, as per 90 and 180 but I digress). Seem like you should be interested in seeing his flip

This reads like you want to lim Heip.

I voted them, saw reactions to my vote, and then went from their.

You are the one making assumptions based off all this.

And I already literally said Ircher is WK'ing Heip.

[Doctor Drew]

There is no sample pm.
We have completely no idea how many scums are there

We don't even know whether a scum exist here lol

It's a mix of this stuff here is the reason i thought that i'm concerned with Heip.

Scum would be more worried about sample PM's it feels like, because town at least have a PM that is usable for claiming and whatnot, it's the scum that would potentially be more concerned of not having a sample PM.

Then the "no idea how many scum there is" this seems really weird, especially followed slightly after with "we don't know if they exist" there is no reason to think that we would be in a game with no scum.

This all adds up to me thinking that this is Scum.

Do you still feel this way?

It feels like a decent chance to be Newb-Scum in my opinion, especially given the later interactions with the slot.

Most newer players behave this way regardless of alignment. I'm not seeing what you're seeing.

Ircher, you seem to be going out of your way to defend Heip against any real heat. Major or minor.

I'm not really "defending" heipizhu. I'm just pointing out there's a plausible alternative explanations, and everyone shouldn't be so quick to jump the gun against the newer player.

There always is a 'plausible' explanation when someone has some heat on them. And why shouldn't a newer player be given a free pass just because they are new?

You are contradicting yourself in this very post, you are just saying 'nope they are new, no way they can't be scum'.

[Doctor Drew]

*why should not why shouldn't

[Doctor Drew]

There always is a 'plausible' explanation when someone has some heat on them. And why shouldn't a newer player be given a free pass just because they are new?

You are contradicting yourself in this very post, you are just saying 'nope they are new, no way they can't be scum'.

This isn't wrong, but do you really believe what you're arguing? You're not voting heip or ircher

Consider me voting Ircher in spirit.

I still like my vote on you.

[Doctor Drew]

There always is a 'plausible' explanation when someone has some heat on them. And why shouldn't a newer player be given a free pass just because they are new?

You are contradicting yourself in this very post, you are just saying 'nope they are new, no way they can't be scum'.

This isn't wrong, but do you really believe what you're arguing? You're not voting heip or ircher

Consider me voting Ircher in spirit.

I still like my vote on you.

We're not allowed to do gifs, but consider this the text version of the peanut m&m:

(ಠ_ಠ)

[Doctor Drew]

There always is a 'plausible' explanation when someone has some heat on them. And why shouldn't a newer player be given a free pass just because they are new?

You are contradicting yourself in this very post, you are just saying 'nope they are new, no way they can't be scum'.

This isn't wrong, but do you really believe what you're arguing? You're not voting heip or ircher

Consider me voting Ircher in spirit.

I still like my vote on you.

This is a deeply weird exchange to be honest. First of all, if Drew voted heip as a corollary of 284 that would not be a sign of conviction at all and in fact would pretty much undermine the point; so lumping heip and Ircher like in 286 is off.

And

voting Ircher in spirit

-- what does that even mean? If in your soul you feel like Ircher's scum and you ought to vote him, you're flesh is voting elsewhere why exactly?

This is especially odd since, as I've mentioned, you have incompatible cases on Merlyn and Ircher

Spoiler:

I never really was scum reading Heip to hard, just an early vibe vote to see where it goes........and then

Jesus

Ircher took the wheel.

Oh, I see, so you are suggesting WK'ing.

You don't like Merlyn and Ircher for uncompatible reasons that both depend on heip's flip, namely 141 and 249 (and also me, as per 90 and 180 but I digress). Seem like you should be interested in seeing his flip

I don't think this is how people do reads. While strategically, it might make sense to focus on the common thread, most people want to chase their actual scum reads.

But I do thing there is quite some value in resolving the keystone of multiple theories to shed some light into the whole thing. Whether or not the value of doing so is greater than the value of nailing one's sr is debatable, but it does more

consistently

improve the game state

You are really going out of your way to make this more complicated than it is.

I think Ircher is scum, I also think Merlyn is scum.....and I feel more strongly about my read on Merlyn.

Got it?

[Doctor Drew]

I think Ircher is scum, I also think Merlyn is scum

Do you believe both those things to be true at the same time?

I would be happy to have them as competing wagons if that could happen.

[Doctor Drew]

ah, the patented "voting Merlyn for vibes" vote that's happened so much in this game.

Don't like being caught for the wrong reasons?

[Doctor Drew]

By the way, I noticed that it says "choose one player to put in a box" and not "the box" in the mafia role PM, so I asked for clarification. The box we vote people into during the day is the same box that the mafia put people into at night.

I thought we weren't going to talk much mech anymore in this game, do better Aluminum.

[Doctor Drew]

Feels very similar to Brass and Shrapnel to me.

Interesting, my scum read on them was more because of GrandpaMo....maybe I need to check that game out again.

[Doctor Drew]

Drew, you think Ircher is scummy bc of they way they defended heip, yes? The implication being that they're sticking their neck out for their scumbuddy. But you say you think it's me and Ircher together as scum. So how does that add up?

Drew, you think Ircher is scummy bc of they way they defended heip, yes? The implication being that they're sticking their neck out for their scumbuddy. But you say you think it's me and Ircher together as scum. So how does that add up?

Mhm, no, and we've gone over this point already; 249, 251.

Drew, you think Ircher is scummy bc of they way they defended heip, yes? The implication being that they're sticking their neck out for their scumbuddy. But you say you think it's me and Ircher together as scum. So how does that add up?

I don't really think this is an issue. Drew scum reads you and me independently of each other. That doesn't mean we're scum together, but rather, we're Drew's two strongest reads. Trying to form associative reads on Day 1 is a fool's errand.

Literally has been answered twice, I mean Bianco and Ircher got it.....why can't you.

Also point out exactly where I said you and Ircher are buddies please.

[Doctor Drew]

What I can't get about it is that it didn't come from you. I like the explanation, but two other players provided it for you. I was interested to see if you'd come up with your own answer or just let them do the explaining for you.

Well considering I literally explained my reads on you and Ircher as separate, why did I need to state it again?

[Doctor Drew]

I'm feeling like being rash this morrow.

VOTE: Merlyn

Che cazzo

[Doctor Drew]

Scum Role PM

Welcome to Quantum Mafia You are a

Quantum Goon

You have a partner. Each night, you and your partner can collectively choose one player to put in a box. You must choose which of you will put that player in the box. You also share a factional Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You win when all Quantum Town

ies

are dead.

Reality feels unstable.

Confirm by replying to this PM with a summary of your role.

I mean, it's basically mod confirmed

Enjoying the absinthe a bit tonight?

[Doctor Drew]

Vig Bianco

[Doctor Drew]

I tried touching the box over night.

But from I could tell, I don't think it did anything.

[Doctor Drew]

I tried touching the box over night.

But from I could tell, I don't think it did anything.

Merlyn has been put into the box! Now everyone goes to bed after promising not to touch the box until morning.

How could you, you have ruined the box Drew, we promised.

Doctor Drew First of his name, breaker of promises.

[Doctor Drew]

I'm more of the mind that this is a setup where we learn more as the game progresses. Why else would the mod feel compelled to give us each a thread rather than just using normal role pms?

This is a bastard game with lots of most likely misdirection.

I am trying not to get in the mods head here lol, just want to deal with what we know now.

We also haven't talked much about why was Arugula the 'Night Kill'(using that term for whatever happened to her). She seemed to have some heat on her, at least enough to to possibly set up a mis lim.

Though maybe it wasn't scums doing.

Maybe when the actual day starts we will get more info on what is going on with Merlyn and Aardvark in the box?

Sorry, turned a bit stream of consciousness lol.

[Doctor Drew]

I'm more of the mind that this is a setup where we learn more as the game progresses. Why else would the mod feel compelled to give us each a thread rather than just using normal role pms?

I mean to be fair, I actually kind of like that system, and might steal it for future games, feels better then having to sort through PM's to find information.

I have played in another game that everyone had a personal PT, even from a players perspective was kinda cool to have.

[Doctor Drew]

Boo my role didn't change.

VOTE: Ircher

[Doctor Drew]

Also happy birthday Ircher!

Sorry you are scum.

[Doctor Drew]

Also happy birthday Ircher!

Sorry you are scum.

Is this a guilty claim?
Or just gameplay based?

He is guilty.




Of turning 24

[Doctor Drew]

But seriously, gameplay based.

[Doctor Drew]

So big claim here, make sure you read each part of it.

Claim: i WAS scum with Ircher, meaning each of us has 2 states, Quantum Townie and Quantum Mafia, this is actually eluded to in flip of Merlyn.

Note: The Mafia team absolutely don't have access to any additional information.

Suspicion: This means that it is very likely that CJ is scum right now, Merlyn was number 1, so i suspect that the movement of roles is either +/- 1 meaning CJ would be scum in every case.

However, this doesn't always help us, we don't know that putting him in the box keeps his alignment the same and Aliana's flip might change the alignment.

Note: The Mafia team boxing is also not compulsive, so it might be worth it for whoever the Mafia team is to not actually box someone at night, as your likely to alignment change again.

Plan: Box CJ, Mafia team should avoid using the box mechanic, observe if the Alignment's change affects people in the box.

VOTE: ceejayvinoya

Uhhhh, explain this again like I am the idiot I am why this makes ceejay scum now.

Also happy birthday Ircher!

Sorry you are scum.

No, I

was

scum. Not anymore.

Well first off, if you an Jason are to be believed, I can still nail scum once in awhile lol.

But, why I am to believe you......or Jason for that matter?

[Doctor Drew]

Also, and again a dumb question, this basically clears Heip and Bianco as not D1 scum? And depending on which direction it changed, one of them is cleared today as well......again if we were to believe your theory.

Especially since my role/alignment didn't change.

I am just trying to talk through this claim lol

[Doctor Drew]

vc

Mod, is avatar from the show on netflix, Dark?

[Doctor Drew]

vc

Mod, is avatar from the show on netflix, Dark?

*is your avatar

[Doctor Drew]

Also, and again a dumb question, this basically clears Heip and Bianco as not D1 scum? And depending on which direction it changed, one of them is cleared today as well......again if we were to believe your theory.

Especially since my role/alignment didn't change.

I am just trying to talk through this claim lol

Yes to be clear, your D1 scum were Ircher/JasonWazza, and yes haha I was scum and no one guessed.

It's possible that one of the scum would be Bianco (-1 skipping Aliana) or even that Aliana turned into scum if the box doesn't shield Alignment changes

Hold on, who is this Aliana you speak of?

[Doctor Drew]

VOTE: Drew

Drew's response to Jason feels like Drew knows ceejay isn't scum, and the only people who could know that are the new scum...

(Well barring cop inno results but if alignments can change like Jason and Ircher are saying then cop results are worthless)

Pedit: 431 is really bad

VOTE: ceejay

Lol, this was quite the journey.

[Doctor Drew]

Well that would be +3 for both scum members, which would make the next set Doctor Drew/Aliana.

Called her by her actual name.

Guys, Jason is still scum.

[Doctor Drew]

VOTE: Ircher

[Doctor Drew]

Then what if no one is in the box?

I keep trying to touch and shake the box, so I kinda hope no one is in there lol.

Also I keep asking to be scum, to no avail.

Haven't even asked to be cult though.......

[Doctor Drew]

VOTE: Ircher

We all know they are the one actual scum here right?

I literally was just scum with them.

[Doctor Drew]

Drew, can you explain more about why you NKed heip?

I didn't.

I did see Ircher put them in the box in the scum PT though.

[Doctor Drew]

I don't know about you, but I had it figured out since D1.