Open 881 | Friends and Enemies | Postgame

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fourth

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heartbreaking

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VOTE: dats

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p good hbu

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I was thinking about going out to the beach tonight to watch the meteor shower and listen to the waves but I dunno if I wanna get my feet all sandy

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THOMAS RHETT GRABBED MY HAND AND SANG TO KE
INGOT IT ON VIDEO

his voice sounds so dreamy

what did he sing to you?

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my feet are all sandy and i haven't seen a single perseid

I blame Dats

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you should've gone with me yesterday </3

you didn't invite me

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Yo!

*waves*

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I am doing pretty good.

I am always town because the moderator is not Datisi ^^

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That’s lovely to hear. Thanks for answering.
I’m town, thanks for asking.
How’s the game shaping up in that head if yours?

It's still p chill and the vibes are nice and I hope it stays that way - I don't really have any alignment related thoughts that are solid.

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existence is effort

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maybe Datisi has that rugged handsome detective energy this game

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have fun on your trip <3

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can you show me you're town

if you stare at me too hard I'm going to blush :shy:

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mala playing the entire game drunk challenge

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ANSWER THE QUESTION I WANT ANSWERS

what's the question? I didn't hear you from over here

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ausuka

*spits out pasta*

...god how am i SO FUCKING BAD AT ALTS??

scum theatre?

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ANSWER THE QUESTION I WANT ANSWERS

what's the question? I didn't hear you from over here

ANSWERS

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VOTE: superbowl

I prefer pasta

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I knew you were scum only a liar would rebuke pizza

pasta is much tastier and easy to make

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His green eyes are very dreamy.
Don’t you wanna pull this truck on the side of the road. (: girlllll you make me wannnaaaa

I love this song !

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I knew you were scum only a liar would rebuke pizza

pasta is much tastier and easy to make

I dunno what your role is, but you’re definitely scum in spirit.

I can make some pasta for you and change your mind

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who do you think is our best bet for flipping a mafia today katya?

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who do you think is our best bet for flipping a mafia today katya?

also who do you

I have some thoughts but I want to give it more time

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I voted him because I thought the pasta or pizza question was weird

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I didn't even understand the point of the datisi comment

was it like a joke? if they're mafia why would you want them to keep it in the scum pt >.>

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scum ari?

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nothing

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I heard he won an award for being the best scum player

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yes

no because to make good pizza you need to have a certain kind of oven whereas with pasta you can make great pasta with just a pot and some dishes.

probably Bell

not yet

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I don't particularly feel like explaining the Datisi read but if I had to gth it on something silly it would be like

I think scum!datisi is nicer to me

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Digiornio is terrible

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:eyeroll:

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ok so what's Datisi done that's like scummy?

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I'm too tired to read the bulge/datisi conversation again but I don't think your point about 157 is that convincing because early game votes are pretty much meaningless

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gn drew

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ending the argument and calling bulge town are two different things Dats.

Drew is saying you're mafia who is placating Bulge by throwing a town-read at him and that doesn't have anything to do with the length of the argument or ending it early.

fwiw I do think if you're town you would townread Bulge if he kept doubling down on his argument and felt like he believed in it so I don't think his point there really makes that much sense.

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I don't really raise an eyebrow at anything he does tbh

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what do you think about Bell?

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he feels like he's just going through the motions and it's not really clear where his thought process is or what the point of his questioning is.

he also feels more passive and restrained but that could just be because he like hasn't played in a while.

I'm not like super confident on the read just wanted to know what you thought about it because you've seen him play a few times.

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I guess the vibe I pick up off him is that he's uncomfortable but he's trying to pretend to be comfortable.

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I’m confused why you think I’m going through the motions but you don’t understand the point of my questions.

If I was going through the motions wouldn’t my questions be pretty clear in terms of focus and purpose?

I'm saying you're going through the motions of forcing yourself to be present and like talk to people because you don't want to be pegged as mafia for not doing anything but I don't really understand what you're thinking or doing.

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I was taking a shower and getting ready to go out.

did you need something Bell?

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I didn't think there was anything worth posting about, the thread felt pretty dead.

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people need to actually post and interact with Bell so I can refine my read on him

like this doesnt work if ya'all don't post

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I already think you're mafia so it probably would not be productive

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Are you uninterested in keeping those good vibes afloat when they drift off? Or do you not consider a productive game with content a part of that vibe?

Repost. @ari

I don't understand this question

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i have already said why

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You’re looking at a game you feel is dead and seemingly not interested in injecting life in it.
You spoke about wanting good vibes at the start of the game. But aren’t seemingly interested in contributing to it.

i can't talk to the wall Bell

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like if noone is around who am i supposed to talk to?

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what are your opinions bell

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why am I not mafia superbowl?

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You could be but the way that I approach solving I saw in your thought processes if that makes sense

I'm sorry this doesn't make sense to me - what did you see in my thought process that makes you believe I am town?

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wdym by the way i am clarifying is townie? can you give like an example and why it is townie?

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why is Superbowl likely to be town to you and who would you be voting for if you actually were voting right now?

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i think in such a fractured game state its kind of important to actually throw around your vote and try to make things happen tbh

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also i voted meowmeow last night

sorry I missed this

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so, i don't think katya is town particularly, which i get is an unusual opinion to have. she was scum in the recently completed micro 1087 and just absolutely swept the game so i don't really think i should buy into the narrative that like, she's obvtown because she posts a lot of stuff that looks vaguely thoughtful. obviously if ppl have more specific reasons to townread her i'm happy to hear it; i don't think we should write off any reason to townread a capable scum player but i think a lot of the more common surface level reasons aren't that valid

obviously, i didn't like 167 - i mean i'm biased because like, it's me, and it did explain the post was trying not to give anything away but... meh, i'm just not a fan of the whole exchange

didn't really like 178 like 'you should expect i'll be obvious town' feels a bit like scum trying to be too cheeky to be scum. idk if that makes sense

i don't know if i need to go through the whole honeypot thing again. i'm not sure if anyone except me actually read that. but like, i basically just don't like how light of a wave katya makes towards shadi, not really doing anything there, and calling it a honeypot because after she did that, people wouldn't 'need' to talk to shadi and therefore anyone who does is probably scum? i think it's possible that there's some playstyle difference there because it is incredibly foreign to how i play mafia. but the thing that really got me is the idea that anyone pushing shadi is necessarily like, influenced by her push and being opportunistic, even though it wasn't really a push and was a light and noncommittal idea about how she doesn't really know who scum is. and it comes without really engaging with the reasons why they were doing that. i do still think there is some partner equity there but that's not important for now. of course, there's the whole deal where she doesn't like votes/wagons and that's obviously genuine but it is obviously also aware that a lot of people do not share this view. so like to review, she is asked who scum is, and instead of answering normally sets up a 'honeypot' except the honey attracts people that disagree with it about how wagons work, which she apparently doesn't want to discuss. not to mention she goes to great lengths to emphasise how much she does not really believe in this read which just seems... incredibly counterproductive to the entire purpose. and obviously if she's scum it's a rather intricate thing, but i really do not see the town thought process here, and i think it's a +scum thing to do.

and yeah idk that is basically my whole read on katya. even in her more recent posts, i still don't really understand it or where it's coming from at all in terms of what she's pushing people for and if she's town, what she's going for, who she might like to eliminate. i don't see the thought process behind any of it. but i think part of that *could* be that i play very differently. i mean, i townread it once before, but maybe that game i wasn't as cautious of being snowed; i should probably go back and check. i lean scum on katya right now

eh meowmeow iso is like, okay

big post worries me maybe more than it should

but it just feels like there is perspective issue with regards to her reads and approach to me (and i guess also get the same feeling with her reads of datisi as well though presents itself differently of course)

like it's just like, 'i have noted these specific scummy things and noted nothing that could potentially be towny from you and even if i did it wouldn't count because! you won this recent scumgame even though none of the things i have noted are scummy about you in this game have comparables in that game or anything'

and its pretty hard to see town!her just finding nothing at all to be towny about town!me i guess doesn't even feel like she wants to

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meowmeow can be town actually idk

yeah?

i have seen you once and you were fairly obviously town in that game. i expect you to play at least a bit differently, since you're on an alt account.

they're all alt accounts really

but i think the expectation should generally be that i will be fairly obvious town this game as well

who do you think is our best bet for flipping a mafia today katya?

like at this exact moment?

maybe shadi1337?

but far from anything super strong there

this may have been a bit of a honeypot as skygazer would say

anyway thoughts later maybe

i'm generally not a big fan of preflip associatives but if shadi flips red i think this is scum like a very big amount of the time

ah so you've now associated me with shadi1337, datisi has associated me with both doctor drew and superbowl9, and both of you seem to be reading things through scum!yekaterina lens for ??? reasons

there's an obvious question i want to ask here but... i probably shouldn't yeah

the whole 'maybe x is scum idk i don't have scumreads' and then calling it a honeypot is so ??? to me

like if you want to honeypot why are you going to such lengths to emphasise you don't actually have a scumread there

like at this point datisi has already pointed out like the big glaring problem with shadi's post

i think it's extremely questionable to make that sort of complete non-read and if/when people push on it say it's a honeypot and people pushing there were just attracted by your post

like ???

wanted to see if folks would pressure when there's no real need to

like it's not as though i don't also have concerns re:shadi1337 and am not so patiently waiting for shadi1337 to return and such

but what is gained by the votes that wouldn't be gained through those interactions

like why is datisi voting now what has changed since datisi pointed out the 'big glaring problem' other than your vote and such

what did you gain from your previous vote anyway? before moving on to this one

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what was the thought process behind the honey pot thing? like why did you respond to me with a honeypot instead of just an answer? I don't get the thought process.

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like i understand the concept of a honeypot trap but uh why did you think one would work at that moment in time?

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I don't know - I think it's kind of weird to think one scum would use another scum as a "honeypot" because highlighting a partner in such a way is p ???


maybe as an anti-associative? but even then the risks do not really make that much sense with the reward which is p bleh?

but like I don't see why town!ausuka can't think it - I think scum tend to make more sense than town usually because town just say what they think whereas scum tend to first double triple check things to make sure what they say "makes sense"

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the sequence went something like

ari: hi who do you think is most likely to flip mafia?
katya: maybe shadi?

then ~8 hours later

meowmeow - votes shadi for some post - not indication she is working with you?
katya: well that was a honeypot
~7 hours pass by~
meowmeow - if shadi is mafia then katya is mafia with him!
~12 hours later~
datisi: I'm promising this is not to pocket meowmeow *vote shadi*
katya: aha that was a honeypot!


I can kind of see how they could decide its p unnatural for you to do that?

it feels kind of premature to reveal its a honeypot when there's only two votes on the player instead of letting the trap run for longer to see what else it trawls up - there's no real danger to shadi that honeypot from a game perspective since there's only 2 votes on the wagon.

are you likely to have caught scum with the first two votes? not really? for something to be a real attractive honeypot there should be votes that make it a viable elimination first and it probably would have been more interesting if the wagon had built up more.

Hence it makes sense from this perspective for meowmeow to think your intention in revealing that its a "honeypot" is not to trap the mafia but rather to prevent the shadi wagon from building up even further. like saying something is a trap is likely to dissuade people from stepping into it - a soft defense of sorts.

One thing that I did find interesting is Dunnstral's post:

I like the shadi wagon more than the Datisi wagon. Yackety sax feels towny.

which came right after your honeypot post. and skimming his iso he seems to drop the shadi idea entirely and also somewhat fading from the game. so if there was anyone I'd bet on being scum who is kind of awkward around a town!shadi it would be Dunnstral.

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the sequence went something like

ari: hi who do you think is most likely to flip mafia?
katya: maybe shadi?

then ~8 hours later

meowmeow - votes shadi for some post - not indication she is working with you?
katya: well that was a honeypot
~7 hours pass by~
meowmeow - vote shadi - does not mention katya's post
~12 hours later~
datisi: I'm promising this is not to pocket meowmeow *vote shadi*
katya: aha that was a honeypot!
meowmeow: if shadi is scum then katya is also scum!

^

fixing this above sequence

I can kind of see how they could decide its p unnatural for you to do that?

it feels kind of premature to reveal its a honeypot when there's only two votes on the player instead of letting the trap run for longer to see what else it trawls up - there's no real danger to shadi that honeypot from a game perspective since there's only 2 votes on the wagon.

are you likely to have caught scum with the first two votes? not really? for something to be a real attractive honeypot there should be votes that make it a viable elimination first and it probably would have been more interesting if the wagon had built up more.

Hence it makes sense from this perspective for meowmeow to think your intention in revealing that its a "honeypot" is not to trap the mafia but rather to prevent the shadi wagon from building up even further. like saying something is a trap is likely to dissuade people from stepping into it - a soft defense of sorts.

One thing that I did find interesting is Dunnstral's post:

I like the shadi wagon more than the Datisi wagon. Yackety sax feels towny.

which came right after your honeypot post. and skimming his iso he seems to drop the shadi idea entirely and also somewhat fading from the game. so if there was anyone I'd bet on being scum who is kind of awkward around a town!shadi it would be Dunnstral.

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also like I think meowmeow voting has more to do with Datisi than you ? I don't think either of them really were interacting with shadi in the mindset of katya presented us with an opportunity lets take advantage of it

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kind of think you datisi and meowmeow are just all town but I could be horribly wrong because my reads are not like great d1.

I think my top suspects are just superbowl, bell, dunnstral atp

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actually my reads have been p bad for a while but they are what they are

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well if she read 1087 I would think she is familiar with your scumplay and has reason to be wary of it.

she's not really trying to get you voted off so what is the point of the read if she is mafia?

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what do you think of Dunnstral?

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his one post on shadi that was made after your honeypot post felt like it had



vibes

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Aris, what are the current reasons you think I’m scum?

I think you're not really pushing the action as much as you would be if you were town.

a lot of your posting feels dull and forced.

i think you tend to be sassier and sharper when you're town.

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I’ve intentionally avoided making posts that would be unproductive to conversation. I wrote them but then deleted them . It’s a sign of growth.

We’ve played together one other time, a year ago? I’m fully capable of being a smarmy wise ass as scum. It’s one of the only things that seems to translate fine between alignments.

I think you're more polite as scum than town because you are self conscious more as scum and somewhat feel bad about it whereas when you're town you just let it fly more.

I guess maybe its just becoming more mature

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like it felt to me like she was citing that game to say, 'look the things i am saying make sense, i am wary of it and everyone else should be too it just won this game' without actually taking anything from that game to apply here alignment wise

what do you think she would be able to apply from that game to here alignment wise? I don't think its really applicable to say one things is like another thing therefore ??? just because someone is skilled does not mean they will do the same thing.

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idk i can't just start townreading everyone who pushes me at any point because they're unlikely to get me eliminated and they probably know that

it doesn't have to be a townread - there are spaces between townread and scumread. saying someone is scum for scumreading you but not pushing you lacks the motive? I think its somewhat unintuitive to scumread someone without pushing them but like I don't think it makes sense to say that it leans scum on average to do so?

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could be longer term thing like i backburner plenty of things like that as a scums i assume meowmeow does as well could be to because finds it an easier interaction axis could be to push things in opposition to me while not trying to eliminate me, like there are plenty of options and it's probably a combination of many if she's a scums

I don't think it makes sense to say because you do something as scum then someone else doing the same thing would also be scum - I'm not that familiar with meow's scum game but I don't recall her putting things to roast.

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it is a cute dog

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how familiar are you with superbowl's meta Bell?

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if you have time I guess you can read some of his past games and see what he looks like here?

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it takes maybe like 10 minutes to skim his past 3 or 4 isos in completed games

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well you're voting for her and pushing for her to be eliminated right? whereas she's not really doing the same to you?

I guess maybe we have different opinions about scum motivation and how meow would play scum because you think she would be like you and I'm not sure that would be the case.

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I think I got spoiled by all the people that just instantly know I’m town within the first 30 pages. Alas.

do you think its weird that nobody has done that yet?

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do you think any of them could be slotting you as town way too early ?

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I thought bell was joking about dunnstral tbh

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well you're voting for her and pushing for her to be eliminated right? whereas she's not really doing the same to you?

I guess maybe we have different opinions about scum motivation and how meow would play scum because you think she would be like you and I'm not sure that would be the case.

hm, if i am voting her and pushing for her to be eliminated and scum!her goes all in on doing the same

(which i would definitely not say i am all in here or anything currently reconsidering / your input is valuable to me et cetera)

but if scum!meowmeow does so do you think scum!meowmeow would think that'd be likely to have an outcome in her favour?

i think what I'm trying to convey is

I think her comments about you feel more like town!her saying to be careful of you because she is worried a lot of the thread is just default reading you as town and she knows you're perfectly capable of being mafia

rather than trying to actively mis-elim you?

I guess I think if scum!her is worried about town!you it'd be easier to deal with you by not engaging or just omgusing because it fits neatly into her town meta.

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as to whether scum her pushing you in this game would lead to you being yeeted, I don't really know and I can't begin to guess at what she would think if she were mafia in this game state

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people need to actually post and interact with Bell so I can refine my read on him

like this doesnt work if ya'all don't post

I already think you're mafia so it probably would not be productive

You seem to be contradicting yourself here. You either think Bell is mafia or you want others to interact with them so you can refine your read on them.

well if i'm wrong about bell being mafia I would like to see that from how he interacts with other people

and if i'm right it would only increase my confidence in the read if the interactions feel off.

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Just kidding I finished. After a review of 3 games and I don’t got nuffin. I guess the fact he broke out the quotes is slightly different but mostly I just have a head ache now.

which three games did you meta?

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Dbz, mininormal 2234 and AI upick part 2. In reverse order.
Scum, town, scum (but it's multiball so it's not really the same thing).

ok and you didn't notice he posts way more in his town games than his scum games ?

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and like in the town game he is much more aggressive in going after people whereas in the scum games he's kind of passive and making idle chit chat

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I also, really do have a head ache and am sort of panicking because of all the shit I have to do suddenly.
Who demands a paper on the first week back to college? 2 days after a syllabus goes up? A sadist is who.

And she did it while knowing we work full time jobs. Like. She released it on a monday.
Jesus christ.

I don't get this - are you talking about a player in the game or your real life issues?

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superbowl

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which game did he say not to meta him in?

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every good girl needs a little thug

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superbowl what's your STD read?

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STD said he doesn't like my iso but i mean spot the difference between mine and his? I'm not sure on him

like this is the last thought I have from you on him and like he's done p much nothing since? why is drew/datisi scummier than STD to you?

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I just mean out of the three people other than me who've voted for you, you've voted datisi/drew but not std so I'm wondering like why?

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I don't want to policy anyone I'm just confused about things

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I guess you've voted me too so that makes him the only person who's voted you that you haven't omgused back

what's special about him ?

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if he's bussing just say "the wheels on the bus go round and round" and I'll know what you mean.

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UNVOTE: [

I'll figure out what to do with my vote later I am open to be sold anything

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:eyeroll:

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that is pretty funny yea

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save us super sheep

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what do you think of shadi1337 right now then?

like if you think me/datisi/meowmeow all town i feel like would maybe be likely a scums?

or at least that's how i feel when i assume datisi/meowmeow both town so i wonder

not that it would make sense for scum!you partnered with shadi1337 to try to show me meowmeow is town or anything here so mostly just asking why shadi1337 not likely alongside bell/superbowl9/dunnstral to you

i briefly skimmed the iso and i don't really see anything that stands out much. what's the strongest reason for scum!shadi here?

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I could vote shadi I guess id feel bad about voting Datisi

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still waiting for std to "catch up" and super sheep to stun us with something amazing

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i guess i kind of also dont want him to think being mean to me would get him townread that seems like not good ~.~

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i am not that good at reading him tbqh

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I used to be better i think but now I kind of suck at it

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i think in this kind of game state scum do not have to do a whole lot?

it is less than a day to deadline and no wagon even reach 5 votes

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I think sometimes it is better to be accepting about reality than to complain about it.

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well i enjoy chatting with you even if you are mafia trying to pocket me because it is fun.

sometimes the people you share your time with do not share your alignment but its ok.

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I don't even know if the default votes are that enh

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kind of just want to take a hail mary on STD here

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do you have feelings about him? i think ive seen him kind of ghost last time i played this setup and he was mafia.

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i wasnt really saying you were mafia

maybe std will get better now the weekend is over but its not monday anymore

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i like these lazy summer nights listening to the wind blow through the leaves and the chirping of crickets.

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whats so scummy about datisi to you superbowl?

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waiting for sheepsaysmeep

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that was the perfect setup for you to say "the wheels on the bus go round and round"

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we have to work on your comedic timing superbowl

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sheep sheep sheep sheep

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heartbreaking

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i havent had taco bell in so long i might go get some if sheep takes any longer

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realistically it’s what? superbowl9 + malakittens? or shadi1337? or the bulge?

ehhhhh

like not impossible but ehhhhhhhhhhhhh

mayyybe bell?

kind of think bell town now

if superbowl is mafia, datisi can easily be the bus vote

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would make the annoyed "feed him answers" comment make a lot of sense - like he didn't read his own partner's post and then used to tie you + sb and also distance

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timing of hop on makes a lot of sense as bus vote to freeze wagon movement - you jump on at focal point so looks good if goes over, also makes it unlikely any of the people voting you hop over

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every good girl needs a little thug

me and datisi

so tru bestie <3

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like what was plan for getting someone else eliminated if doesn’t go over

you don't need to get someone eliminated in this game

just make it less likely your team gets eliminated and also make yourself look good if your team does get eliminated

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timing of hop on makes a lot of sense as bus vote to freeze wagon movement - you jump on at focal point so looks good if goes over, also makes it unlikely any of the people voting you hop over

looking back at VCs not actually good theory since no1 was actually voting Datisi atp

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you should help me bus

what's the one sentence summary on Shadi?

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I mean like if you just met me right now and you have one sentence to convince me that shadi is the scum scums what do you tell me?

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i guess i'm fine with this

will move if needed to at deadline

VOTE: shadi

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i just got back home

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vc is :

Datisi (5): Bell, superbowl9, The Bulge, Shadi, STD
superbowl9 (4): Doctor Drew, sheepsaysmeep, Datisi, meowmeow
Doctor Drew (2): Malakittens, Dunnstral
Shadi1337 (1): Aristeia,

Not Voting (1): yekaterina,

i think

[Aristeia]

well I guess Datisi is the default ?

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I don't really want to vote him I guess Dunnstral can do it since he's around

[Aristeia]

it do be like that

*hugs*

[Aristeia]

i still laugh everytime I see your profile pic dats <3

i will miss you

[Aristeia]

hf playing phasmo dats

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I guess katya can e-1 and i'll wait for dunny

[Aristeia]

can someone vote i get anxiety when the timer ticks down so much

[Aristeia]

if he flips scum i will be statistically more likely to be his partner

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ausuka missing her chance to bushammer smh

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I think i'd be fine flipping either shadi or superbowl today

[Aristeia]

VOTE: shadi

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i do not remember doing this at all

[Aristeia]

I forgot about the conversation

I guess I really just wanted to yeet superbowl but nobody wanted to so I gave up

[Aristeia]

I don't actually know where I am on Ausuka rn but I do want to yeet either superbowl or shadi

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Bulge feels town as well.

I think you might be right tbh

[Aristeia]

I forgot about the conversation

I guess I really just wanted to yeet superbowl but nobody wanted to so I gave up

... I thought it was my powers of charm and rhetoric

it could be I am weak to charming men

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VOTE: superbowl

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e-2

drew do you think superbowl is going to flip town?

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I would guess he's trying to measure how much conviction you have that superbowl is actually going to flip mafia

[Aristeia]

I would guess he's trying to measure how much conviction you have that superbowl is actually going to flip mafia

Are you certain Bell has town intentions?

it is a guess

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it would be pretty funny if bell decided to openly line up lims as mafia

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UNVOTE:

I think this is one of the few games where it might make sense to not drag things out too long because if the mafia are this bad at figuring out who the masons are then maybe we shouldn't let them get more time to figure it out esp if we are always going to yeet someone named superbowl anyway

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she asked me to

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i dont see the point of making it obvious who the masons are if the mafia can't figure it out for themselves

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I don't think I've insulted the mafia

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but if I were mafia I would never shoot bulge

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VOTE: drew

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could do shadi as well

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VOTE: superbowl

e-1 etc etc

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oh it's not e-1 I just can't count to six

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dannfufufu

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change my mind about what

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my biggest hangup with superbowl is that he doesnt sound like he's eager to kill anyone

but then again like nobody is so shrug

[Aristeia]

Ari do you have a read on Dunnstral

not really

[Aristeia]

I guess my could yeet section of the game is like

shadi
dunnstral
superbowl
drew

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they kind of just get mixed up in my head tbh

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i guess i prefer superbowl out of everyone there

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you have to be a lot louder and more aggressive

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Good enough?

I think the passion is missing tbh

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i am so surprised he is mafia

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i think the last two mafia are meowmeow and drew

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i didnt actually think very much about those reads

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i could probly do some vca but im lazy

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it just means i am very lazy

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imagine believing dunnstral

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eyeroll

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I'm worried about ari

i don't have stormtrooper aim

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i could name all 3 masons right now if it would prove i'm town but i don't think its worth it

[Aristeia]

i mean i'd do it to avoid being mislimmed but like why

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VOTE: meowmeow

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I guess drew is fine as well tbh

VOTE: drew

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i'm like undecided who between drew and meowmeow is scummier i didnt actually reread anything overnight

[Aristeia]

I'm a mason so
Can we kill shadi now please?

I think this actually makes sense

UNVOTE:

this is such a weird reaction though for you to make about your scum partner

[Aristeia]

decisions decisions i should probably like reread but enh

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VOTE: meowmeow

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wait how did that even make sense

[Aristeia]

do you want me to name names

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ok i guess if you want to lim me vote me and get everyone else to and ill watch from the dead pt

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i wont say if you dont want me to

maybe stormtrooper team will just kill two more vts and then we can autowin at 3 masons vs 2 mafia

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why don't you care about this game

im annoyed at myself for not getting superbowl yeeted d1 and letting dats get flipped

and im annoyed at this town for not listening to me and also not playing the game

so i am mostly indifferent about winning

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i guess my motivation is tied to like how much i care about winning and sometimes i just dont

[Aristeia]

like this game is very simple

if the three masons have two vts correctly townread. we win the game


if the mafia kill another vt, the masons only need to correectly townread one vt

if the mafia kill two vts we autowin

so the only way we really lose is if the masons misread a mafia as a vt.

ill just blame them postgame for not listening to me idc