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also, it wouldnt be the first time I catch a group of multiple scum on Day 1, Psyche.
I caught 4 out of 6 scum Day 1 in TENET years back, and they put all their resources into getting rid of me.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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i've laid out at least twice here why i think it's scummy. the belief is not rooted in a meta dive, but in the reasoning i provided.In post 2006, Flavor Leaf wrote:
Just like I asked Temp when they tried to do this,In post 1996, Psyche wrote: i know some people believe in advocate for policy lims all the time. i still think it's a scumtell on balance, and that BBM's push for it here is scummy. scum BBM would factor in his ability to "look up some meta" for us into his decision to play D1 this way.
You need to back this up.
Show me where Policy lim advocates have come from scum.You can't step in the same river twice.-
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Hu tao is so scummy lmao
Their scumread on me seems like starting from the conclusion and making things up after the fact-
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do you play a lot of mafia?In post 2025, Flavor Leaf wrote: also, it wouldnt be the first time I catch a group of multiple scum on Day 1, Psyche.
I caught 4 out of 6 scum Day 1 in TENET years back, and they put all their resources into getting rid of me.You can't step in the same river twice.-
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Flavor Leaf Survivor
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I just...also think people overvalue killing town Day 1 as being way worse than it isCHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
”Yeah, the moment I realized Flavor was scum I stopped trying because I’m sure as hell not beating him.” - Clemency
”Not bragging about myself as much as I'm actually praising the Scum player of the year...and probably the decade.” - Almost50
"Just accept that FL is too good as scum, period." - Clidd-
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how is it not obvious by this point that i don't care about your read on meIn post 2023, TemporalLich wrote: pocketing me is not going to make me want to townread you, PsycheYou can't step in the same river twice.-
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It’s not that I can’t find scumIn post 2021, Psyche wrote:
The idea that you can find scumteams based on such scant evidence just doesn't pass any muster. It's silly. Maybe one benefit of limming TL is that you'd see how silly it is sooner rather than later.In post 2000, Flavor Leaf wrote:
i doubt you doubt it.In post 1991, Psyche wrote:
really doubt this one believes they've found an entire scumteam from one list of names.In post 1967, Flavor Leaf wrote: Psyche and ZZZx are missing from that readslist.
They moved out their partners to place them after they did everyone else, and forgot to place them.
Their reads list is entirely political.
TL is scum.
alternative is that flavor can be driven by pure confirmation bias and wishful thinking.
must check if this thought pattern is consistent across the thread
I said at the present, until something confirms that it is not true, TL has scum slipped their entire team by leaving exactly you and ZZZx out of it.
It helps I already believe ZZZx is scum, and I was already thinking you were defending TL a lot this game.
And TL doesn't do well under pressure, so I can def believe they were trying to politically place all the townies (or other team, they just dont know).
TL is scum because of how political their reads are.
It’s that I can’t convince 12 people, 9 of which are probably inactive, to vote that player without a new wagon getting in the way@thesupertriomusical on Instagram, come see it if you’re in LA area, I wrote it!-
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Sure, but that's your own opinion.In post 2026, Psyche wrote:
i've laid out at least twice here why i think it's scummy. the belief is not rooted in a meta dive, but in the reasoning i provided.In post 2006, Flavor Leaf wrote:
Just like I asked Temp when they tried to do this,In post 1996, Psyche wrote: i know some people believe in advocate for policy lims all the time. i still think it's a scumtell on balance, and that BBM's push for it here is scummy. scum BBM would factor in his ability to "look up some meta" for us into his decision to play D1 this way.
You need to back this up.
Show me where Policy lim advocates have come from scum.
I dont think scum advocate for Policy lims at all because it comes off as scummy, and we're not playing 4d chess enough site meta wide to advocate for scum to do that because it's not what scum do, it's still pushed as scummy.
It's just one of those things people think are scummy that actually come from town a hell of a lot more.
And I think you know this.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
”Yeah, the moment I realized Flavor was scum I stopped trying because I’m sure as hell not beating him.” - Clemency
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"Just accept that FL is too good as scum, period." - Clidd-
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I love this actually.In post 2027, Cat Scratch Fever wrote: Hu tao is so scummy lmao
Their scumread on me seems like starting from the conclusion and making things up after the factCHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
”Yeah, the moment I realized Flavor was scum I stopped trying because I’m sure as hell not beating him.” - Clemency
”Not bragging about myself as much as I'm actually praising the Scum player of the year...and probably the decade.” - Almost50
"Just accept that FL is too good as scum, period." - Clidd-
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Doesn't even bother quoting which onesIn post 1835, Hu Tao wrote:
Just a fewIn post 1796, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
Which posts don't seem genuine? The one that was quoted here?In post 1787, Hu Tao wrote:
For some reason, I think you could be scum. It's a gut feeling, your posts don't seem genuine for some reason. But I'm not sure whyIn post 1718, Cat Scratch Fever wrote: This is such an unusual game for me
Blood over utopia has done a number on some of y'all lol
VOTE: CatScratchFever
Really now-
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Flavor Leaf Survivor
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Caught more scum and won more scum games than almost anyone in the history of this site. Sure, that's cuz I play a hell of a lot (second account here), and I have an extreme amount of face to face Mafia.In post 2028, Psyche wrote:
do you play a lot of mafia?In post 2025, Flavor Leaf wrote: also, it wouldnt be the first time I catch a group of multiple scum on Day 1, Psyche.
I caught 4 out of 6 scum Day 1 in TENET years back, and they put all their resources into getting rid of me.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
”Yeah, the moment I realized Flavor was scum I stopped trying because I’m sure as hell not beating him.” - Clemency
”Not bragging about myself as much as I'm actually praising the Scum player of the year...and probably the decade.” - Almost50
"Just accept that FL is too good as scum, period." - Clidd-
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Psyche say what you want, the fact of the matter is the ending of today is gonna go in two ways:
1). We scramble in the final hours to wagon some player and they claim VT and die
2). We scramble in the final hours to wagon some player and they claim PR and we try to wagon someone else without a claim to prevent a NL
I’ll quote this once we get there@thesupertriomusical on Instagram, come see it if you’re in LA area, I wrote it!-
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Ok uhm here's some thoughts in the order they occur to me.
I townread CSF based on her posting so far. I would say I am very taken in though not completely, maybe 3/4 of the wayIn post 1848, Hu Tao wrote:
You seem genuine, I think you're town. Can you iso CSF and tell me if you think their posts seem authentic? For some reason they feel forcedIn post 1845, Aisa wrote: I'm not sure how to approach this game, feel like if I push a low-posting slot it's not guaranteed to reveal anything about the slot's alignment nor are there any low-posting slots where I'm like, confident they flip scum. But if I talk to active slots I'm just contributing to bloat and makes it hard to keep up
Mind you, I've gotten her wrong before. And multiball is hard. But the last game I played with her, she was scum, and so far she looks significantly townier to me. (I just went back and checked this to make sure I'm not remembering wrong). Her posts here are denser and more analytical and when I imagine what a town!CSF would look like, I can't name how she would be different from here. I'd be pretty sorry to see her go today and would prefer almost any other name that has come up.
Here's some quick comments on why I don't think furtive's case is very compelling:
If I had to make a big readslist and put 5 slots in the bottom tier right now, none of them would be confident scumreads. I agree the piggybacking off JV's post to explain her read on someone is a little unusual but like... I can easily see it coming from someone who just wants to explain their read.In post 1829, furtiveglance wrote:JV is in the bottom 5 slots here, out of 23 players. That's a scumread.
Does this look like a player talking to their scumread? It doesn't to me.In post 1506, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:[...]
I've lost count of the times I've played with townies who have apparently nonsensical progressions. Idk none of these charges seem serious to me, they're all kinda speculativefurtiveglance wrote:
This post was the kicker for me. [...] Nonsensical progressions, changing opinions to match FL, scum positioning around a TL lim. These are all serious charges! But then we just a get a 'south of null' conclusion. No vote, no suggestion of JV being a possible vote for CSF. Also, 'south of null' is far less severe than in the bottom 5 reads. So to me, it just looks like CSF wanted JV to see that she was scumreading/leaning them to get some town points and have a 'contrary' opinion.In post 1509, Cat Scratch Fever wrote: It started as just a feeling when you were questioning TL - I felt like TL was being weird town, and it seemed a bit like you were pushing him for his weird but not necessarily scummy stances.
Then [...]
If I come into a game and scumread a player who's widely townread, I'll go in quite hard and explain to other players why. Probably vote them as well. This treatment of JV just looks so weird to me.[...]
Looks like this post ended up becoming a monograph on the cat, but that's ok with me!-
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They did vote you first...then you omgussed.In post 2027, Cat Scratch Fever wrote: Hu tao is so scummy lmao
Their scumread on me seems like starting from the conclusion and making things up after the fact-
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that isn't a green check lol
pedit: yeah I wanna see Hu Tao elaborate on the fake CSF poststime will end-
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Flavor Leaf Survivor
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I wanna let CSF vs Hu Tao breathe some in future days, so I think we should consolidate elsewhere outside of them.
They were scum together recently too, and I think they both have merit to have saved possible IAMVH this game, along with Duck.
I'm gonna make a wild dart throw that I do not expect to be correct.
Way too early Teams Prediction:
IAMVH, The Worst, One of CSF/Hu Tao
Psyche, ZZZx, TemporalLich
I also dont care too much about preflip, but this is fun to do anyways.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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pedit: I meant red check... a green check is a cleartime will end-
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Bruh I scumread Hu tao like when I replaced inIn post 2038, furtiveglance wrote:
They did vote you first...then you omgussed.In post 2027, Cat Scratch Fever wrote: Hu tao is so scummy lmao
Their scumread on me seems like starting from the conclusion and making things up after the fact-
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do you still scumread hu tao after bob's joke post?time will end-
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galaxy brain fatalism about the possibility of sorting scum D1 but not about policy limsIn post 2015, BBmolla wrote:
This is semi impossibleIn post 2008, Psyche wrote:
possibly town! you think you've found an entire scumteam. if that's true, then maybe shifting from the policy lim polemics to getting the town on board about the whole scumteam you've found would a better use of your time at this pointIn post 1995, Flavor Leaf wrote:
then let's rebrandIn post 1986, furtiveglance wrote:
Policy eliminations shouldn't really be a thing. If a player breaks the rules, they should get modkilled. Otherwise, vote based on reads.In post 1982, BBmolla wrote: I’ve always been a fan of policy elims d1 in large, fairly confident I’ve said this before, I think about Salamence20 in Marketplace Mafia 2/3
because killing someone who is possibly town, but if they are town are in a spot where they will lose the game for town, is a thing that should happen.
I've had a game where if I had vigged the IC like I wanted to, town would have won the game
At normal playercounts you do this via discussion, but discussing at this playercount leads to 200+ pages which leads to inactivity.
We’re all just going to putt around until deadline and we all jump on whatever wagon has 4-5 people on it so we can feasibly get a lim.
Day one lims are going to probably be town regardless so why not eliminate the most anti-town players and go to night
Hence why I believe in policy
but honestly there's no benefit to getting to the theoretical minutae here. i believe you think PLs are a good idea! i still think the way you've done it here is scummyYou can't step in the same river twice.-
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Idk what you're talking about yet, just got a ping that Hu tao responded to meIn post 2043, TemporalLich wrote: do you still scumread hu tao after bob's joke post?
I'm just posting from work, will look later-
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i just don't think this amounts to a reasonable justification for not trying to play the gameIn post 2036, BBmolla wrote: Psyche say what you want, the fact of the matter is the ending of today is gonna go in two ways:
1). We scramble in the final hours to wagon some player and they claim VT and die
2). We scramble in the final hours to wagon some player and they claim PR and we try to wagon someone else without a claim to prevent a NL
I’ll quote this once we get there
and further, i think acting like it is makes for a really convenient excuse for scumYou can't step in the same river twice.-
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This?In post 1864, TemporalLich wrote:
holy scumslipIn post 1863, bob3141 wrote: I always find in extra large games the goal is not to kill town but chain execute teh town vigs, that 53 player large still gives me shudders lol
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I think he was referencing another game and not a scum slip-
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Psyche is scumconf'd from TL until proven they're not, though.
82 page game and their only reads are hard defense of TL, scum read of BBm off one trivial thing like pushing for a Policy, and then their waffling on me aimlessly.
Why do they decide to get all hot and bothered now?
Simple. Scum with TL.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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yes that post is why Hu Tao is locktownIn post 2047, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:This?
I think he was referencing another game and not a scum sliptime will end
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