"My wife, she tells me to go to store to buy eggs and milk. She says I must write it down on piece of paper... it does not matter whether I write eggs, milk or milk, eggs... but that is not true for vectors, only one ordered pair is the correct spot at Star Market, otherwise I go to wrong place!"
Day 1 VC 1:
Not voting (23): Random Nurse,
Flavor Leaf
, biancospino,
Hu Tao
, camelCasedSnivy,
KittyTacky
,
Save The Dragons
,
Merlyn
, davesaz, Flavia, Naerys,
Klazam
,
Psyche
, bob3141,
iamveryhappy
,TemporalLich, furtiveglance, ZZZX, the worst, bbmolla, Shrek,
JacksonVirgo
, shaddowez
Day 1 will end in (expired on 2023-09-19 17:13:00)
Day 1 will end in (expired on 2023-09-19 17:13:00)
MOD NOTES: bob3141 and the worst are V/LA. Sorry for the massive delay in VC's, I'm working on getting a co-mod who can do VC's while I'm in the middle of my school day.
, Naerys
ZZZX (3): the worst, Random Nurse, pisskop
Cat Scratch Fever (3): Shrek,
Klazam
,
Hu Tao
BBMolla (1):
Psyche
Psyche
(1):
JacksonVirgo
Hu Tao
(1): bob3141
JacksonVirgo
(1):
iamveryhappy
the worst (1): shaddowez
Not voting (0):
Day 1 will end in (expired on 2023-09-19 17:13:00)
With 23 alive, it takes 12 to eliminate.
MOD NOTES: ZZZX is V/LA. 2 AM VC’s are the best VC’s!
So IAVH wagon was a thing Day 1. It then petered out, we saw the rise of ZZZX and my (CSF) wagons, before IAVH became the EOD wagon.
Early IAVH wagon of note:
iamveryhappy
(6): Shrek, furtiveglance,
JacksonVirgo
,
Flavor Leaf
, TemporalLich, pisskop
I singled this one out because these folks were on IAVH for multiple VCs. I'd be pretty confident in at least one scum here, as this was the wagon that some of the vocal town players were pushing. Maybe even 2+ because multiball. I remember Shrek had a suspicious pivot onto voting me, and pisskop has been voting me for ? reasons. I also can't really remember anything furtive has done lately besides tunnel me; he could be scum as well.
Maybe I'll go through these votes later, but confidence in something coming out of it is going to be low as the game had been dragging on forever and people were eager for an elimination. There's also a good chance of scum off wagon not wanting to make waves day 1, guessing gob slot (Shrek) or bob
Some notes: if ZZZX is scum, the worst looks good here for relentlessly pushing ZZZX against the IAVH wagon. Naerys a little bit as well, even if she did hammer IAVH at the end bc at that point it was probably better to just end the day. RN gets some credit, but he wasn't very active or caught up with the game towards the end. pisskop was okay with either wagon going through so eh.
And then Klazam associatives... this will be brief as there aren't many
ZZZX was at E-1 & Klazam didn't vote him in 2199. Klazam later decided to vote me instead in 2324, making me a viable CW to ZZZX.
So ZZZX (Enchant now) has some potential to be red Mafia from Klazam voting me over him alone. But this is unfortunately not as solid as I'd like bc maybe scum were too afraid of being the hammer vote. Though why some think I am red mafia with Klazam now is a bit of a mystery to me, unless you think Klazam decided to bus his partner for no real reason day 1.
TL is very unlikely to be red mafia since Klazam like vote parked there for a good while. Which btw is a good reason to not eliminate TL in a multiball game as that makes them a stronger night kill contender (by red maf).
Like who? You seem awfully adverse to looking at other people.
Reads a bit like SvS to me
Anyway the reason why the focus on the Hu Tao wagon feels off is because Psyche claimed Complex Vig, and I didn't understand and still don't really understand why we didn't let him live to try and confirm his role. We knew one roleblocker had flipped, and therefore knew there were potentially more manipulative roles affecting JV's (fake) guilty in play. I feel like the scum agenda behind pushing Psyche wagon over is pretty clear.
beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop. Almost50 pisskop: Overall, that's a townie slot. Don't ask for specifics because with PK everything can be interpreted either way. It's probably WHEN he says/does things that matter, so it's more of a matter of conception rather than solid reasoning.
beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop. Almost50 pisskop: Overall, that's a townie slot. Don't ask for specifics because with PK everything can be interpreted either way. It's probably WHEN he says/does things that matter, so it's more of a matter of conception rather than solid reasoning.
In post 5860, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
Don't sheep my reads too hard, I've been pretty checked out of this game tbh. I need a mafia break. But re-eval everything postflip
mmm i wanna hammer you because of this now but i don't really like the people on your wagon
y'all why the hell are we eliminating CSF, who is constantly efforting and appears to actually be tangibly trying to solve this game, rather than ignoring the entire core of players with ~2 reads who are lurking or shitposting their way through?
like i feel like i've been confused and asking for some more information about stuff people are just ~vibing~ for multiple phases and we keep misyeeting town power roles and we're now lining up one of my stronger early townreads for a lim and like, i am not convinced that i'm the problem lol
Current wagons probably scum/scum. Also, scum are kind of incentivised to kill other scum at this point and I think it's becoming clearer who scum are. So things looking good for town.
Wizard-Mercenary
