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Elements she/herBloopshe/her
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BloopI agree with everything Elements is posting - Papa Zito
It's scummy as fak tho - Gamma Emerald
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Elements she/herBloopshe/her
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Dragon I'll get back to you in ~ half an hour - and hourI agree with everything Elements is posting - Papa Zito
It's scummy as fak tho - Gamma Emerald
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Naerys sheMafia Scumshe
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This was the softIn post 1195, Naerys wrote: I dont have buddies, i have a bag full of envelopes though.-
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Sleepy Dragon He/HimGoonHe/Him
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Oh!In post 1827, Naerys wrote:
This was the softIn post 1195, Naerys wrote: I dont have buddies, i have a bag full of envelopes though.
I guess it wasn't very soft though
Also, hi Naerys! We didn't greet each other properly.Sleepy alt of DragonEater70. Whatever "sleepy alt" means.-
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Bingle Survivor
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Opposite. What do you think about the townreads expressed on OWERIn post 1805, Sleepy Dragon wrote:
Well given that I now know he was town, I don't think there's anything to be divulged about alignments by looking at his townreads.In post 1761, Bingle wrote:In post 1726, Sleepy Dragon wrote: Hi I'm the new Outworlder
I fully expected to rep into a scum slot but instead I rolled town, so huh, a pleasant surprise.
Can someone TLDR me on the case against Eiralox and/or link it if there's already a post summarizing it?
Also, please don't expect me to play with the same level of tryharding as my main account k thanks.
Oh one final thing:
VOTE: Nurse
Serious vote.
Given that you expected ower scum what do you feel about the ower townreads?
I only scumread him because I didn't like his voting pattern tbh.
Still, I'll humor you:
- I do agree independently that you and Kitty are never D1 votes here.
- I dunno about Key. His cases were so far fetched it's hard to believe it's scum, but it might be sort of newbscum approach that's very different to how most newbscum play here. The thing about newbies is that their play can be very unexpected.
- I townlean gamma but I'm not really sure why.
- Don't have a read on Khaos
- I townlean Elements."He brings the cool and the muscle" -FakeGod
"I was playing against the timer known as bingle tbh." ~Chennisden
"it's truest in mechanical games (if he gets a gritty setup and is town in it and needs to save the day, he starts levitating and his eyes start glowing. not exaggerating, it literally happens)." ~Ducky-
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Scummy but low info.In post 1807, Sleepy Dragon wrote: Bingle, what's your read on khaos?"He brings the cool and the muscle" -FakeGod
"I was playing against the timer known as bingle tbh." ~Chennisden
"it's truest in mechanical games (if he gets a gritty setup and is town in it and needs to save the day, he starts levitating and his eyes start glowing. not exaggerating, it literally happens)." ~Ducky-
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Elements she/herBloopshe/her
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idk, I think it stared off with something to do with Eira being anti day-1 lim and then morphed from there?In post 1824, Sleepy Dragon wrote: not catching up but just trying to figure out what's the deal with eira wagon because nobody (except KL who I refuse to listen to) would give me an explanation, and right now I have a few questions.
Eira being Eira and Key being key i think exasserbated the situation
Thank youHaving read a few of KL's posts, I kinda hate that slot. Like 99% of their reads are bullshit
I read the slot as hyper oblivious town. It was the first 10? pages I think where i town binned the slot then I stopped bothering tryring to read it and just wanted it gone. thank you for calling me out on it though. I do think it's still a more likely town slot but now I'll start reading Titus and go from there.So, why do you guys (especially elements who I just saw has Titus as top TR) think these really bad pushes come from town?
not the read, but the positioning around it. defence of the slot, agreeing with reads, defending it.What's the scum case on Naerys? Her TRing KL?I agree with everything Elements is posting - Papa Zito
It's scummy as fak tho - Gamma Emerald
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In post 1829, Bingle wrote: Opposite. What do you think about the townreads expressed on OWER
oooooh good question
I'll come back to you on that in a few hoursSleepy alt of DragonEater70. Whatever "sleepy alt" means.-
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Eira wagon reasoning tl;dr
Eira is about as huggable as a porcupine.
Eira legitimately thinks D1 no lim is a good townstrat, but was not actually advocating it because he didn't think it was viable.
Eira was hard pushing Key as a policy lim despite the above and multiple hard townreads on Key because Key was choking the thread.
Eira has independently suspected basically every member of the town, with the notable exception of me.
Eira was leveraging OMGUS to avoid getting voted.
All of these are not good reasons to sus Eira specifically ime, but it remains true that Eira hasn't done much in the way of 'being towny'. It's also worth acknowledging that Key making the thread unreadable was not a solo act."He brings the cool and the muscle" -FakeGod
"I was playing against the timer known as bingle tbh." ~Chennisden
"it's truest in mechanical games (if he gets a gritty setup and is town in it and needs to save the day, he starts levitating and his eyes start glowing. not exaggerating, it literally happens)." ~Ducky-
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Bingle Survivor
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Again, anyone who didn't catch this doesn't have eyes, and I'm not even considering it scummy. Also worth noting, Eira had this point where they were publicly speccing whether Key and I were a mason pair and dismissed it on the back of there already being an IC, and I actually think that specific type of useless spec is +town. Granted, it's the only +town thing I've seen from eira.In post 1827, Naerys wrote:
This was the softIn post 1195, Naerys wrote: I dont have buddies, i have a bag full of envelopes though."He brings the cool and the muscle" -FakeGod
"I was playing against the timer known as bingle tbh." ~Chennisden
"it's truest in mechanical games (if he gets a gritty setup and is town in it and needs to save the day, he starts levitating and his eyes start glowing. not exaggerating, it literally happens)." ~Ducky-
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RN-In post 880, Random Nurse wrote: I'm here, I promise! Currently working a stretch of 5 shifts and 11/9's the last one!
RN's first like 7 posts were actually pretty decent imo. This is his second to last one, explaining that he had a work schedule from hell last week and hasn't been able to devote time. He has exceeded his self imposed timeframe, but said absence seems to be site wide and he's at/nearing replacement timewise so I'm not really interested in wagoning a player who has 7 posts with literally no interaction on the back of "he doesn't effort as scum" when he's literally siteflaked at the moment. If he comes back and doesn't effort, we'll talk, but this wagon is very unappealing to me."He brings the cool and the muscle" -FakeGod
"I was playing against the timer known as bingle tbh." ~Chennisden
"it's truest in mechanical games (if he gets a gritty setup and is town in it and needs to save the day, he starts levitating and his eyes start glowing. not exaggerating, it literally happens)." ~Ducky-
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Elements-
The CC bidness:
RN specced that IC would necessarily mean a stacked scumteam on entry, to which I replied that IC is actually fairly weak in the realm of investigatives due to the likelihood of it disappearing early and thus being largely useless late game. I said I expect that there is a protective of some sort, but not a hard protective. Something that can only protect sometimes or has a severe drawback if found while protecting (babysitter) was more likely than any other options. Elements responded that she was informed there was no protection (which I took to be an obvious joke, but apparently some people thought was real). KT thought this was sus. About a page later, FL claimed informed of something that would make early massclaim desirable. KT outright cc'd element's joke, claiming informed that scum were informed that there was a gated protective role. Thread consensus at the time was that KT's cc was ++town, although rereading it now I'm not sure I still think that. Will ruminate more. Basically, the cc seemed risky if KT wasn't actually informed of a town protective, and backing off of elements instead of trying to shove through a lim seemed +town, but if KT was scum informed of a town protective that first bit isn't all that risky.
In addition, Ele has been very wagon happy with the exception of Eiralox, with a stated goal of getting every player to L-1 on Day 1. There's been a decent amount of cozying up to me, who at least some of the day enjoyed a position of being nearly as townread as the IC. I don't particularly think Ele is hard scum, but she's definitely a high value flip and I could easily be persuaded there."He brings the cool and the muscle" -FakeGod
"I was playing against the timer known as bingle tbh." ~Chennisden
"it's truest in mechanical games (if he gets a gritty setup and is town in it and needs to save the day, he starts levitating and his eyes start glowing. not exaggerating, it literally happens)." ~Ducky-
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Sleepy Dragon He/HimGoonHe/Him
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Who are your top 3 vote candidates?Sleepy alt of DragonEater70. Whatever "sleepy alt" means.-
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Naerys was the other main wagon when we had dueling wagons. Basically, Chell posted a case on Eira that was roughly Eira is playing to an audience of the IC (which I thought was a pretty reasonable case, actually) when I made a comment about the number of people who were not active in thread after naked voting Eira and Naerys took that and ran. I didn't like the case she came up with as it mostly relied on things like 'Eira is aggressive as fak" and "No way would a town player actually like no lim" without actually examining why scum would try to fake that. She also had a level of confidence that was unreasonably high for the case being as bleh as it was. I stayed on that wagon after because A three dueling wagons was promising info wise and B there seemed to be a weird amount of resistance to Naerys getting limmed that didn't seem reasonable to me."He brings the cool and the muscle" -FakeGod
"I was playing against the timer known as bingle tbh." ~Chennisden
"it's truest in mechanical games (if he gets a gritty setup and is town in it and needs to save the day, he starts levitating and his eyes start glowing. not exaggerating, it literally happens)." ~Ducky-
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Celebloki
Sleepy Dragon
Doctor Drew
Titus
Gamma Emerald
KittyTacky
Chell
Organized Khaos
Random Nurse*
Eiralox
Naerys
Elements
This is roughly where I'm at at the moment. I'd consider limming any of the bottom 5 to be desirable, but would want more engagement before settling on RN or Khaos."He brings the cool and the muscle" -FakeGod
"I was playing against the timer known as bingle tbh." ~Chennisden
"it's truest in mechanical games (if he gets a gritty setup and is town in it and needs to save the day, he starts levitating and his eyes start glowing. not exaggerating, it literally happens)." ~Ducky-
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KittyTacky he/himMafia Scumhe/him
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I'm off to sleep, Bingle put things better than I would. gn-
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Alianna She/HerDeath by 1000 PagetopsShe/Her
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Random Nurse has not picked up his prod and is being replaced.I townread Alianna.
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Organized Khaos He/HimTownieHe/Him
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Alianna She/HerDeath by 1000 PagetopsShe/Her
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camelCasedSnivy replaces Random Nurse.I townread Alianna.
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camelCasedSnivy he/himMafia Scumhe/him
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Elements she/herBloopshe/her
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What do you think about the new replacements?In post 1842, Organized Khaos wrote: hi guys, what are we talking about?I agree with everything Elements is posting - Papa Zito
It's scummy as fak tho - Gamma Emerald
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Elements she/herBloopshe/her
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Don't need to read anything before dragon replaced in, it's all been summarised since then I think
I agree with everything Elements is posting - Papa Zito
It's scummy as fak tho - Gamma Emerald
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Organized Khaos He/HimTownieHe/Him
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Ummmm... Well looking at their posts they are all neutral for me.In post 1845, Elements wrote:
What do you think about the new replacements?In post 1842, Organized Khaos wrote: hi guys, what are we talking about?Obsidian equals life!-
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Naerys sheMafia Scumshe
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I wouldn’t say my SR on Eira is for being annoyingIn post 1824, Sleepy Dragon wrote: not catching up but just trying to figure out what's the deal with eira wagon because nobody (except KL who I refuse to listen to) would give me an explanation, and right now I have a few questions.
first: where did Naerys soft mailman?
second:
Having read a few of KL's posts, I kinda hate that slot. Like 99% of their reads are bullshit, and you can call it "too scummy to be scum" if you want to but I don't really see it. So, why do you guys (especially elements who I just saw has Titus as top TR) think these really bad pushes come from town?
three: what's the scum case on Naerys? Her TRing KL?
Four: ugh, has no one here played with eiralox before? they (or he? not sure) is known for having a disagreeable / unpalatable playstyle. Why is that scummy? Like Gamma, you've played with Eira in TL's Grandest Idea, they were town despite the annoying, against the grain attitude.<Embrace The Void>
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