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Is there anything super cool and exciting in the first 14 pages or is it just fluff?
I'm gunna read it anyway but you can make me do so with a sense of sadness and resignation if you'd like.tout comprendre c'est tout pardonner-
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I'm on page 8 and I think wartortle is scum for a few reasons.
1) He seems to be very concerned about presence and thread control. He keeps popping up with these rapid fire takes that don't really go anywhere. He's trying to fake the care free spewing thoughts playstyle of unconcerned town but if you dig to the bottom of these takes theres nothing there; no follow through, nothing. We don't see him pushing for his preferred narrative we just see takes. Takes and takes and takes.
2) I think he's playing up the whole "I'm new here" to a pretty comical degree and I think its a lie. I don't know whose alt this is but its definitely an alt.
In post 19, Wartortle wrote: the deadlines are 10 days long
i'm used to 10 minute long deadlines bro i don't got the attention span for thisIn post 20, Wartortle wrote: god i don't like day start. it's just useless crap, like bro i want a detective to get a guilty on a busboy, i want a freeloader to cc cop and get condemned, i want a marksman to shoot a claimed seer. i don't want none of this "vanilla townie" crap
Give me a break, dude. You know what you're doing. You know forum mafia. Cut the crap.In post 181, Wartortle wrote:
uhh maybe. i'll defer to your judgement because i'm not a huge forum mafia dudeIn post 104, usesPython wrote:
I don't get it, it's easier to read people with similar playstyles as you so how is 71 unproductiveIn post 83, Wartortle wrote: the question itself that's made in 71 will never lead to anything productive, it depends if wiz has the ability as town to recognize this
This doesn't make tortle scum on their own but they're just very obviously lying about this. Read the rest of their posts.
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Oh god now I have to scum read black.tout comprendre c'est tout pardonner-
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Aren't you the one trying to catch in this gif? Much to think about.In post 377, Black wrote:
Catch me if you canIn post 373, Thestatusquo wrote: Oh god now I have to scum read black.
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I'm sure those were all just honest mistakes from the mods.tout comprendre c'est tout pardonner-
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Is there some reason you don't want the game state to change?In post 384, AnimatedWiz wrote: Ah jeez, it’s like a whole new game with all these replacements—nice to see you though, Black.tout comprendre c'est tout pardonner-
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Are you on the chopping block? I only read up to page 8 so that must have happened after.In post 386, AnimatedWiz wrote: I would love the game state to change, considering I’m on the chopping block—just means I have to now consider two player’s playstyles in one single spot, multiple times. Greater mental load for a bit.
What changed from page 8 until now to make you feel this way?tout comprendre c'est tout pardonner-
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Also I like that response. I feel like scum!animated probably doesn't make that response to me. It's too on the nose.tout comprendre c'est tout pardonner-
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Doesn't enchant primarily post nonsense about everything?tout comprendre c'est tout pardonner-
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ok but I also just said I thought annie was townie so you seem to be lacking a little internal consistency in your thoughts here.In post 405, TheHoldSteady wrote: I can't see myself voting Wartortle today. I don't think coming in from ten minute live mafia and having to adjust to forum but still having know how is that farfetched. Plus, townreading Annie here isn't a good play for him to make if he's scum.tout comprendre c'est tout pardonner-
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one might say you're not...holding steady?tout comprendre c'est tout pardonner-
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and in that world I benefit as scum from calling annie town how exactly?In post 412, TheHoldSteady wrote:
More suspicion on Annie directly benefits scum Wartortle because Annie is pushing on Wartortle. So, suffice to say I don't think if Wartortle was scum here he'd be reading Annie as town.In post 406, Thestatusquo wrote:
ok but I also just said I thought annie was townie so you seem to be lacking a little internal consistency in your thoughts here.In post 405, TheHoldSteady wrote: I can't see myself voting Wartortle today. I don't think coming in from ten minute live mafia and having to adjust to forum but still having know how is that farfetched. Plus, townreading Annie here isn't a good play for him to make if he's scum.tout comprendre c'est tout pardonner-
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no I want you to stop lying about not being an alt of a MS userIn post 411, Wartortle wrote:
do you really want me to link my MU account that i haven’t played on in yearsIn post 371, Thestatusquo wrote: I'm on page 8 and I think wartortle is scum for a few reasons.
1) He seems to be very concerned about presence and thread control. He keeps popping up with these rapid fire takes that don't really go anywhere. He's trying to fake the care free spewing thoughts playstyle of unconcerned town but if you dig to the bottom of these takes theres nothing there; no follow through, nothing. We don't see him pushing for his preferred narrative we just see takes. Takes and takes and takes.
2) I think he's playing up the whole "I'm new here" to a pretty comical degree and I think its a lie. I don't know whose alt this is but its definitely an alt.
In post 19, Wartortle wrote: the deadlines are 10 days long
i'm used to 10 minute long deadlines bro i don't got the attention span for thisIn post 20, Wartortle wrote: god i don't like day start. it's just useless crap, like bro i want a detective to get a guilty on a busboy, i want a freeloader to cc cop and get condemned, i want a marksman to shoot a claimed seer. i don't want none of this "vanilla townie" crap
Give me a break, dude. You know what you're doing. You know forum mafia. Cut the crap.In post 181, Wartortle wrote:
uhh maybe. i'll defer to your judgement because i'm not a huge forum mafia dudeIn post 104, usesPython wrote:
I don't get it, it's easier to read people with similar playstyles as you so how is 71 unproductiveIn post 83, Wartortle wrote: the question itself that's made in 71 will never lead to anything productive, it depends if wiz has the ability as town to recognize this
This doesn't make tortle scum on their own but they're just very obviously lying about this. Read the rest of their posts.
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That is not the only thing I said about Wartortle. Nor was it the most important.In post 437, BlackStar wrote: I like the posts that Black has made so far. The logic seems consistent and she’s putting in effort to figure people out.
Thestatusquo’s push on Wartortle because they think he’s lying about playing forum mafia feels weird.
And I wish that Enchant would dial down the trolling by like 20% loltout comprendre c'est tout pardonner-
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This doesn't seem like the post of someone who is actually interested in evaluating my thoughts. Like ok maybe you missed it or maybe you thought that the only thing that matters is 'what someone talks about the most.' Which is kind of Bizarre way to play Mafia to begin with, but you still don't engage with that thought in any way in this post.In post 453, BlackStar wrote:
You said that he has a lot of takes that seem to go nowhere but you’ve spent more time talking about his his experience level, so I thought you cared more about thatIn post 449, Thestatusquo wrote:
That is not the only thing I said about Wartortle. Nor was it the most important.In post 437, BlackStar wrote: I like the posts that Black has made so far. The logic seems consistent and she’s putting in effort to figure people out.
Thestatusquo’s push on Wartortle because they think he’s lying about playing forum mafia feels weird.
And I wish that Enchant would dial down the trolling by like 20% lol
Like if you were interested in evaluating my positions why would you post this sort of weird defense of yourself rather than actually talk about the argument I made?
This post just seems extremely self conscious.tout comprendre c'est tout pardonner-
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Even this post fails to actually engage with my argument about how he seems to lack follow through so I'm gonna just continue to ask what you think about it until you actually answer?In post 467, BlackStar wrote:
"This feels weird" was the evaluation. You're saying stuff like "cut the crap" to him and accusing him of lying, so why would I not think that you thought his experience level was an important point? You haven't spent any time grilling him on his "endless takes" to try and find out what he believes. I don't see how anything that I said was self-conscious.In post 465, Thestatusquo wrote:
This doesn't seem like the post of someone who is actually interested in evaluating my thoughts. Like ok maybe you missed it or maybe you thought that the only thing that matters is 'what someone talks about the most.' Which is kind of Bizarre way to play Mafia to begin with, but you still don't engage with that thought in any way in this post.In post 453, BlackStar wrote:
You said that he has a lot of takes that seem to go nowhere but you’ve spent more time talking about his his experience level, so I thought you cared more about thatIn post 449, Thestatusquo wrote:
That is not the only thing I said about Wartortle. Nor was it the most important.In post 437, BlackStar wrote: I like the posts that Black has made so far. The logic seems consistent and she’s putting in effort to figure people out.
Thestatusquo’s push on Wartortle because they think he’s lying about playing forum mafia feels weird.
And I wish that Enchant would dial down the trolling by like 20% lol
Like if you were interested in evaluating my positions why would you post this sort of weird defense of yourself rather than actually talk about the argument I made?
This post just seems extremely self conscious.tout comprendre c'est tout pardonner-
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Does it seem to you like he's actually trying to make the lims he wants happen?tout comprendre c'est tout pardonner-
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For someone who claims to be really used to one hour deadlines he sure doesn't seem super interested in making anything happen quickly and is mostly content to sit back and let things drift.tout comprendre c'est tout pardonner-
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I think black is town but I am noticing a lack of sharpness pointed at me in particular which is my only nagging doubt there right now.tout comprendre c'est tout pardonner-
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could just be because I'm right about stuff.tout comprendre c'est tout pardonner-
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like this post.In post 486, Black wrote:
Sharpness?In post 484, Thestatusquo wrote: I think black is town but I am noticing a lack of sharpness pointed at me in particular which is my only nagging doubt there right now.tout comprendre c'est tout pardonner-
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This is what I mean Black. Granted, I was scum when I said this but it was still a true observation on my part.In post 5069, SquirtleSquad wrote: I think I've kind of been able to put my finger on why I tend to scum read black too and that's cool.
I think tonally she asks all these extremely pointed questions. The questions themselves aren't always pointed but they have a tonal resonance to me of 'I think you're a baddy' which is in and of itself kind of pointed and so when she's interacting with people (including me) it frequently feels like she's scum reading them and then those interactions go nowhere because she likes to jump around and poke her nose into everything so that tone and lack of followup always kind of feels opportunistic to me.
But I think I'm figuring out that this is just a false positive.tout comprendre c'est tout pardonner-
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I don't really like the way blackstar is interacting with the game.tout comprendre c'est tout pardonner-
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Generally in my mind sheeping is proxying your opinion to another on some matter.tout comprendre c'est tout pardonner-
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I think I mostly have a bunch of people I don't want to lim and then a group of people I don't care about.tout comprendre c'est tout pardonner-
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Which is fine for now.tout comprendre c'est tout pardonner-
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I don't want to lim:
SmileyDude1
AnimatedWiz
Enchant
Black
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vibes and black magic mostly.In post 578, AnimatedWiz wrote:
Why Smiley?In post 576, Thestatusquo wrote: I don't want to lim:
SmileyDude1
AnimatedWiz
Enchant
Black
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kinda want to lim usesPython for that fucking spamfest.tout comprendre c'est tout pardonner-
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this is extremely weak sauce especially about me. I've said a bunch of stuff, you didn't feel interested in talking about any of it? I'm generally town read right now so clearly other people already saw some "towntells" that you claim to be waiting for?In post 622, Roden wrote: Sorry, I had trouble connecting to the site the last couple days. I had caught up when it was 15 pages and I'm just going to give my thoughts from there. As of now I'll be playing in the present and just catch up over the night phase.
Smiley: Seemed odd early on but I agreed with a lot of his posts. 210 and 353 are posts I especially liked and thought were townie.
Hu Tao: A lot of nothing for awhile, but I think that's townie for her judging by past experience. Which maybe sounds mean and I don't intend to mean it that way, but I've seen them be very active/proactive as scum and I don't think their attitude matches their scum games so far.
Naerys: I don't agree with most of the reasoning she's given for her reads. 152 is the only post I kinda like, but even then she only null reads Star later on, which is just off to me. I hate the Wartortle and Smiley reads.
Wiz: Idk why this player has been getting scum read, and I don't agree with the previous player in my slot. Wiz has been pretty solvey all game, and he's been one of the most active players. This game has been too inactive for scum to actively decide to put so much attention on themself like he has.
Wartortle: A self proclaimed town leader that I'm fine with town binning for now. Depending on flips, I could see him potentially being a power wolf, but it feels very unlikely.
Enchant: Pass.
Heip: Hard to follow what's going on with him, but he looks like lim bait. Going on the backburner for later.
Hold: I got genuine townie outrage from him and feel some empathy there. I think this is just town.
OWER: 345 rang alarm bells for me, it read like panicked scum who was scrambling around all of the replace-ins. The fact he moved his vote later on solidifies this for me.
Star: Has some LAMIST posts that I didn't like. I have a scum lean here but it's based mostly on vibes.
Knott: Nothing to comment on. I'm hoping Shea town tells.
Python: I like posts 125 and 327, I feel fine setting them aside as town.
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reading is extremely hard and how dare youIn post 662, Wartortle wrote:
while it is one of the weakest sauce read lists i have ever seen, roden said he had only caught up to pg 15In post 661, Thestatusquo wrote:
this is extremely weak sauce especially about me. I've said a bunch of stuff, you didn't feel interested in talking about any of it? I'm generally town read right now so clearly other people already saw some "towntells" that you claim to be waiting for?In post 622, Roden wrote: Sorry, I had trouble connecting to the site the last couple days. I had caught up when it was 15 pages and I'm just going to give my thoughts from there. As of now I'll be playing in the present and just catch up over the night phase.
Smiley: Seemed odd early on but I agreed with a lot of his posts. 210 and 353 are posts I especially liked and thought were townie.
Hu Tao: A lot of nothing for awhile, but I think that's townie for her judging by past experience. Which maybe sounds mean and I don't intend to mean it that way, but I've seen them be very active/proactive as scum and I don't think their attitude matches their scum games so far.
Naerys: I don't agree with most of the reasoning she's given for her reads. 152 is the only post I kinda like, but even then she only null reads Star later on, which is just off to me. I hate the Wartortle and Smiley reads.
Wiz: Idk why this player has been getting scum read, and I don't agree with the previous player in my slot. Wiz has been pretty solvey all game, and he's been one of the most active players. This game has been too inactive for scum to actively decide to put so much attention on themself like he has.
Wartortle: A self proclaimed town leader that I'm fine with town binning for now. Depending on flips, I could see him potentially being a power wolf, but it feels very unlikely.
Enchant: Pass.
Heip: Hard to follow what's going on with him, but he looks like lim bait. Going on the backburner for later.
Hold: I got genuine townie outrage from him and feel some empathy there. I think this is just town.
OWER: 345 rang alarm bells for me, it read like panicked scum who was scrambling around all of the replace-ins. The fact he moved his vote later on solidifies this for me.
Star: Has some LAMIST posts that I didn't like. I have a scum lean here but it's based mostly on vibes.
Knott: Nothing to comment on. I'm hoping Shea town tells.
Python: I like posts 125 and 327, I feel fine setting them aside as town.
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this seems like flailing.tout comprendre c'est tout pardonner-
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wait wtf there was a hammer?tout comprendre c'est tout pardonner-
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thats what I get for trying to process the game right after I wake up.tout comprendre c'est tout pardonner-
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That sounds like enchant.tout comprendre c'est tout pardonner-
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part of why I thought the new thing is an act tbh.
Seer and cop are the same role.
It's just madlibs.tout comprendre c'est tout pardonner-
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but looking at it again he uses three different terms for cop there. That's probably a breadcrumb lmao.tout comprendre c'est tout pardonner-
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Naery's reaction to the no flip feels pretty like the kind of reaction I've seen from scum on no flips.tout comprendre c'est tout pardonner-
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in my experience "WOW NO KILL LETS SPECULATE" is way more likely to come from town than scum. Town has absolutely no benefit that can come from discussing the no kill or why it happened whereas scum benefit greatly from town speculating and reacting to speculation about what roles do or do not exist.tout comprendre c'est tout pardonner-
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*come from scum than town. Inability to type also very scummy tbh.tout comprendre c'est tout pardonner-
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like ffs what benefit do y'all think comes from "LOL LETS TALK ABOUT AND SEE HOW PEOPLE REACT TO DISCUSSION OF TOWN ROLES HAHA NO TOWN ROLES REACT TO THIS PLEASE UWU UNLESS????"tout comprendre c'est tout pardonner-
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So like either you're scum role fishing or you're being absolutely brainless as town is my two possibilities.tout comprendre c'est tout pardonner-
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Please for fucks sakes stop you are either scum or intingtout comprendre c'est tout pardonner-
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I do not know a way to say "the way you are playing right now is horrifically bad if you're town so please stop."
You are playing horribly if you're town. Please stop.tout comprendre c'est tout pardonner-
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I agree the way enchant is playing around this is weird.tout comprendre c'est tout pardonner-
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Naery's offense feels real tho.
Or, more accurately I feel like she wouldn't try to fake this particular emotion if she were scum in this spot.tout comprendre c'est tout pardonner-
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can you unpack this for me? What specifically make you think enchant is informed and what things are defenses?In post 851, Black wrote: I kinda want to go Enchant before Naerys tbh. I think he might flip red regardless of what she flips. If she is town then Enchant seems informed of her alignment. He's subtly defending her here which probably indicates a pockety type thing going ontout comprendre c'est tout pardonner-
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If she's scum my comment doesn't call her brainless.In post 855, BlackStar wrote: If you call someone brainless, there's no need for them to fake being upset. It was unnecessary on your parttout comprendre c'est tout pardonner-
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If she's scum my comment is borderline a compliment.tout comprendre c'est tout pardonner-
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Guys I bowled 200 for the first time ever in my league tonight. Too excited to read whatever the hell it was that happened here over the last 5 pages yet.tout comprendre c'est tout pardonner-
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Sounds like mafia! Happy to talk while you're here. What do you think about the last few pages besides "arguing"tout comprendre c'est tout pardonner-
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nah don't read give me those sweet sweet top of the head impressions.tout comprendre c'est tout pardonner-
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I'm losing the thread on this game. I'll need to get something to jumpstart me back into it.tout comprendre c'est tout pardonner-
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I will need to read it first.In post 1054, Black wrote:
Thoughts on me vs. Roden?In post 1053, Thestatusquo wrote: I'm losing the thread on this game. I'll need to get something to jumpstart me back into it.tout comprendre c'est tout pardonner-
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wagonomics is garbage.In post 1150, usesPython wrote:
I'm not talking about having all 3 scum off wagon here, I'm saying your wagonomics implies no scum were off wagonIn post 1148, Naerys wrote:
All 3 scum outside of the wagon? Possible, but i dont believe thatIn post 1144, usesPython wrote:
I don't get how you can get a read from anything other than the last votecount and I don't see why scum can't be off wagon thereIn post 1142, Naerys wrote: OutWorldER comes out from this much worse than THS tbhtout comprendre c'est tout pardonner-
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I've caught up. I think there's scum in the quiet contingent.
I don't really like how smiley and blackstar are like positioning themselves as voices of reason without really needing to take much risk and are letting the louder members of the town eat each other. I don't know if everyone yelling is town but I think the majority of them are.
Also I've done the exact thing roden is doing with the self vote lim my target tomorrow as both town and scum so I'm treating it as completely NAI.tout comprendre c'est tout pardonner-
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I think my preferred lim is blackstar followed by maybe smiley? I remember having a reason to town read smiley earlier but I don't really remember what it was.tout comprendre c'est tout pardonner-
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