Mini 2321: Classic Commercials (Postgame)

[gob]

I got nothing to say

[gob]

wassup
VOTE: gob

why me

[gob]

I honestly don't care about art anymore. I find all movies, tv, games, anime, manga, books, etc. to be uninteresting.

I've never loved art as much as others.

[gob]

Hi.

Zoobooks are so cute

Where's your vote?

Why did you ask Hu Tao where their vote was but not gob, who also didn't vote?

Dunnstral knows he can't mess with the king

[gob]

I honestly don't care about art anymore. I find all movies, tv, games, anime, manga, books, etc. to be uninteresting.

I've never loved art as much as others.

Art is beautiful but it's not for everyone

I think im too intelligent for art tbh

[gob]

I can just tell by the vibe that MAX one mafia has posted. some of the non-posters so far are mafia for usre.

[gob]

I got nothing to say

Shan’t say nothing if you don’t say please.

tf you say to me?

[gob]

Gob, come bicker. I’m bored, and your reads are for shit. At least 15 scumbutts have already posted.

I got nothing to say tho

[gob]

What makes you think that the active people are town? I’ve actually felt this start is pretty stilted and bland compared to other games.

I can just tell somehow

[gob]

I wish I had the time to open the game by doing every scum tell in my first post, but the way my work schedule is set up…

You've already told, plus the PoE from early already suggests you.

[gob]

Why the fuck am i not getting a shiny Charmander ):<

[gob]

seems good to me

[gob]

VOTE: Kyouko

[gob]

I got a headache, feel like shit. Did too many drugs last night i think

[gob]

Gob might be scum here.

Am I or not? Seems you want to be right either way here.

[gob]

VOTE: Flavor Leaf Bad arguments

[gob]

Hu Tao could definitely be wolfing here.

[gob]

VOTE: Flavor Leaf Bad arguments

Why are they bad?

Flavor admitted the arguments were bad

Hu Tao could definitely be wolfing here.

I could be. But why?

PoE + obvious

[gob]

What happened to CirSakez?

[gob]

VOTE: Flavor Leaf Bad arguments

Why are they bad?

Flavor admitted the arguments were bad

Hu Tao could definitely be wolfing here.

I could be. But why?

PoE + obvious

Not a defense. Also didn't you do this exact same thing as scum? The response?

[gob]

Sometimes it's scary to see your student (sirCakez) go from a novice... to a master.

[gob]

Gotta get rid of Bingle here

[gob]

Okay we can lim you Flavor

[gob]

VOTE: Flavor

[gob]

Gotta get rid of Bingle here

Think you meant to post that in your PT

Why would i aim for a small fry day 1?

[gob]

Fade me,

Vig’s on Gob, Cop on Cakez, other investigatives play wherever

Why are you encouraging the vig to shoot me?

[gob]

Flavor went from calling themselves scum to calling themselves confirmed town.

Not buying that. Also thomith reads are all fence sitty

[gob]

Flavor went from calling themselves scum to calling themselves confirmed town.

Not buying that. Also thomith reads are all fence sitty

Where did FL call themselves scum? Where did they call themselves confirmed town?

read their iso i am at work rn and dont have time to get shit for you

[gob]

I did and I actually don't see where they called themselves scum or confirmed town.

okay ill relook. Its possible i made that stuff up in my head ngl

[gob]

The only thing I see is they said this, but that isn't them saying they're confirmed town (although I guess I could see it maybe looking that way at a glance?)

Fade me,

Vig’s on Gob, Cop on Cakez, other investigatives play wherever

Why are you encouraging the vig to shoot me?

Cuz they should, especially after my role is confirmed green

I don't see anything about them claiming they're scum though

178 was what i was thinking of. Not a claim but it does seem scummy

[gob]

Just trust me here. If im wrong who cares, not a big deal.

[gob]

Hi.

Zoobooks are so cute

Where's your vote?

Why did you ask Hu Tao where their vote was but not gob, who also didn't vote?

I did not notice.

Fair enough.

You didn't vote either though.

If you want a more solid answer, this back and forth with Dunn is a town process.

Holding Dunn accountable for applying the same standard across multiple slots is a lot more likely to come from town trying to discern the intention behind an action than scum. Could scum fake it? Maybe I guess, it would probably feel more pointed however.

Bingle is more a vibe read for being willing to play into my bs. I like that kind of thing.

Instead of just shrugging me off and going, wow that scummy behavior is pretty scummy.

Since that’s kinda the point.

Speaking of I have some detrimental posting to get back to.

I agree with this. Both of you town (RCE and Thom) so far in my eyes

What changed? I thought there was nothing worth a townread?

RCE is conf town in my eyes

Can you expand as to why, or is it mainly a soul read?

I’ve played with Gob as scum, and this doesn’t seem like his style—I don’t think anything so far is scum-indicative for me. Slight townread there for now.

Do you see anything town indicative?

So basically, I’m countering your meta read with my meta read.

Your read is valid, but for now, I’m happy pushing Gob.

I am noting your meta defense, though. I could be wrong.

I want to chime in here a little. I've recently played with Gob as town (granted he was part of a hydra), and immediately, he did something in this game that he also did at the start of that game, where he randomly labelled half the players as probably town with a vague reason to get reactions.
I noticed he did the same thing here, which is why I didn't comment on it here, because I also wanted to observe it to see how people reacted.

Sounds like you're scared of gob

Why does it sound like I'm scared of gob?

Are you afraid of me?

[gob]

Too ready to overexplain town!gob

Care to share your own thoughts on gob, then?

I would think a lack of detail more suspicious than an overabundance of it personally, and you haven’t stated much on the matter.

I've noticed he seems to like to do shit just to do it,

LOL. Most accurate read anyone on this site has had on me so far.

you are coolthis game kyo. Remind me not to lim you

[gob]

celeb looks good

[gob]

love being the top wagon day 1

slurpin on all the wolves on mi wagon

[gob]

Someone is wolf here

[gob]

VOTE: AnimatedWiz

Why?

is that ur partner or somethin?

[gob]

Gob's in panic mode trying to look like they're chillin'

Look if youre town fuck off. If youre wolf then whatever.

thats all i gotta say.

[gob]

didn't take Gob for someone weak to a little bit of leafy pressure

youre just bugging me

[gob]

alright i finally had my weed and more than 100 calories i wont be in such a bad mood anymor

[gob]

I think SirCakes is scum cause he usually does this slank type shit as scum (i taught him)

But i dont want to lim him, i want to play with him

[gob]

Sure cakez could be scum but he's had 2 posts. Hard to tell.

Hard for you maybe

[gob]

For what it's worth, I'm happy to have ssbm in that spot. I could be wrong and tunneled, but I dont think I am. I still am looking for reasons to town read Gob. Still looking into every other slot. Good spot to be on Page 12.

I don't take 'Gob just seems to do whatever' seriously as a defense. That doesn't mean it's unreadable. People liked to do that with Not Mafia, and I think NM is readable. Gob does a lot more than NM too.

I dont really care if you townread me or not. I dont think kyokou was defending me btw they were just giving a read. The overall read was null iirc, could be misremembering tho


I do agree its not a good defense. That is just how i play as either alignment, ill get bored and do something to spice up the game.

My main towntells in my opinion are frankly, im way meaner as town, way stupider as town and less scared. I also think you could probably compare my posts per day number as scum to town and get some info.

Im not particularly well hidden as either alignment, really. Its a problem but i dont think i can change how i play anymore.

[gob]

I’ll just say this once Flavor

I am so far ahead of you in the game of Mafia. You can try and swipe at my feet, but thats all you can do.

I am tempted to let you mislim me here just so i can prove a point that you’re not as good as you think you are, but you could be mafia so thats not the right play.

But like, the way you look at the game and the way i look at the game are totally different. You are looking for pennies and quarters and im looking for 50s and hundreds.

So trying to 1v1 me is a laughable proposition to me. You gotta get some gym badges before u can fight me, so to speak.

[gob]

Alright alright I get it.

[gob]

Bingle, Flavor, Roden, one of these are wolfing for sure.

I might even call them a power wolf/

[gob]

Too ready to overexplain town!gob

TMI or S/S?

UHHHHH kind of a weird post

the S/S would have TMI lol. Why you hesitant to call Wiz scum?

I think SirCakes is scum cause he usually does this slank type shit as scum (i taught him)

But i dont want to lim him, i want to play with him

@cakez can you confirm/deny this endorsement? Further, can you confirm gob likes to scumslank? Further further, hey, how’s it goin?

When did I say I like to scumslank lol? I just taught him that strat, not that i use it myself. Showing the limits of your thinking, Bingle.

[gob]

Too ready to overexplain town!gob

TMI or S/S?

UHHHHH kind of a weird post

the S/S would have TMI lol. Why you hesitant to call Wiz scum?

I’m not particularly scumreading wiz, but these are two different universes. Universe 2 is where wiz knows your town and is therefore arguing from an informed perspective. Universe B is where your buddies and wiz doesn’t want you going down or yelling timber. I’m asking kyo which she thinks is more likely here, as an attempt to get into kyo’s headspace.

WRT cakez, I was interested in what cakez has to say on the matter, not what you did.

I would be interested in your thoughts on whether scum should slank and why you either support that strat for cakez specifically or in general without using it yourself, assuming I take your “I don’t slank” implication at face value.

So basically you are trying to shade me and wiz in the eyes of Kyo?

Seems like a scum play to me. You TMI know kyo is town so you're trying to get town!kyo to go after me and wiz.

Am I right, or am i right? Either way I'm wrong.

Bingle, Flavor, Roden, one of these are wolfing for sure.

I might even call them a power wolf/

???

I tried to engage with you twice and you ignored me. I even quoted you both times so you would get pinged. How did you arrive to the conclusion that I'm a power wolf??

What did you say? I may have missed a ping at some point. Most likely I didn't find it worth responding to.

[gob]

Oh fuck off lol

I had a bad day Roden, I can't always give 100%. Sometimes I dont even want to give 30%

[gob]

Can wolf out here? Not really feeling this game.

I think bussing is the best play for mafia here in the grand scheme of things, so just do that now.

[gob]

Also, i think it's kind of a giveaway there is scum in at least one of Gob or Kyouku because people are trying to add pressure onto Roden, Flavor, Bingle, and if there's any combination of that group of 3 as scum, and we go after Gob, lol.

I guess Roden/Bingle sheep me, but theyre taking heat from places too, so not the best. And like, Gob isn't the best flip for scum right now if Gob is town.

Just all around I'm feeling good about Bingle and Roden right now. We seem to be up on that Gob stage all taking individual heat, and I think that says something.


I also feel people like Thomthin and Wiz are two townies in the crowd with some scumms and taking residual heat (more Wiz than Thomthin on that)

Hu Tao I've got my eye on. if there's a deepwolf, it's them.

I've literally done nothing. How am I the deep wolf

You seem kind of hard to read in every game I've played with you, at least that's the perception I get from others.

Since you have done nothing, who in your eyes has done 'something' or 'the most?'

[gob]

I think SirCakes is scum cause he usually does this slank type shit as scum (i taught him)

But i dont want to lim him, i want to play with him

@cakez can you confirm/deny this endorsement? Further, can you confirm gob likes to scumslank? Further further, hey, how’s it goin?

maybe sometimes but it depends on the game and how salty I am lol
gob idk I don't have recent meta at all
good hows it going?

I haven't changed much. The old meta is probably still valid.

[gob]

FurCakez dude, love this dude.

[gob]

yea imma need more than that SirCakez, we got like 5 or 9 days too so we got the time 2 hash this out.

[gob]

Gob, who’s scummier, Kouyoko or Cakez?

I can't even really remember anything about Kyouko so Cakez.

[gob]

Gob, who’s scummier, Kouyoko or Cakez?

I can't even really remember anything about Kyouko so Cakez.

They’re your 2 hardest defenders.

Kyouko said you town told, but then went on to say you and I were partners.

I dont remember cakez defending me. Kyoko i don’t remember either but i believe you probably forgot

[gob]

yea imma need more than that SirCakez, we got like 5 or 9 days too so we got the time 2 hash this out.

I don't like how you leaned so heavily into talking about me before I even showed up. It felt very much like a positioning plot and possibly even buddying.

I would like to be your buddy

[gob]

I'm also open to meta arguments on most people in this game, I don't know many of these players well so if someone can bring good meta to the table I'm interested

im BARFING at this post

[gob]

Someone tel me if this is town sircakez tho

[gob]

I have made a mistake that put me in a bad mood

[gob]

Flavor is mafia here i think

[gob]

Roden is also maf forgot bout him

roden cakez flavor

[gob]

Gob's got extreme surface level reactionary reads is probably town indicative, but i was getting there yesterday.

My reads are either right or wrong. That's it.

[gob]

Gob, who’s scummier, Kouyoko or Cakez?

I can't even really remember anything about Kyouko so Cakez.

There it is again. I was going to keep this to myself but I think scum!gob fact-checks and town!gob admits when he doesnt remember something. That's the towntell

How would you say Gob compares to this game?

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LMAO, were you mad I pocketed you that game? not my best performance I will admit, show the game i won instead

[gob]

Flavor I need your help actually. Give me your pro mafia tips and strategies, just general ones

[gob]

Flavor I need your help actually. Give me your pro mafia tips and strategies, just general ones

i thought Titus was your guide.

Where did you get that idea?

[gob]

I think we just lim Cakez here. If he's town, it's his fault. Not even really joking although many may take it as a joke.

[gob]

Gob, who’s scummier, Kouyoko or Cakez?

I can't even really remember anything about Kyouko so Cakez.

There it is again. I was going to keep this to myself but I think scum!gob fact-checks and town!gob admits when he doesnt remember something. That's the towntell

How would you say Gob compares to this game?

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LMAO, were you mad I pocketed you that game? not my best performance I will admit, show the game i won instead

?

I linked a game we were both in because that's the game I have experience with you in. Are you trying to accuse me of voting you out for revenge over a past game?

yea but if you're not my bad.

[gob]

This game is stalling out which means mafia are in control or not really active.

[gob]

It doesn't hold up - thought scum!gob only addressed townies by their name when talking to them directly, but it seems in large 245 he addresses Flavor (scumbuddies in that game) by name

im the best scum player maybe ever, so you wont be able to catch me. I am town this gamer though so whenever u come to that conclusion ur good to go

[gob]

I'm also open to meta arguments on most people in this game, I don't know many of these players well so if someone can bring good meta to the table I'm interested

im BARFING at this post

Someone tel me if this is town sircakez tho

What kind of thought process is this

seems fine to me

[gob]

I wish I had the time to open the game by doing every scum tell in my first post, but the way my work schedule is set up…

You've

already told, plus the PoE from early already suggests

you

.

"you" is natural languaging so it's not damning if gob is red, but I want to point it out alongside the rest of these

Okay we can lim you

Flavor

Too ready to overexplain town!gob

Care to share your own thoughts on gob, then?

I would think a lack of detail more suspicious than an overabundance of it personally, and you haven’t stated much on the matter.

I've noticed he seems to like to do shit just to do it,

LOL. Most accurate read anyone on this site has had on me so far.

you are coolthis game

kyo

. Remind me not to lim you

Notably this is actually lowercased which is how he addressed Flavor after discovering he was traitor in 245 so do with this what you will - I already know I'm town

Too ready to overexplain town!gob

TMI or S/S?

UHHHHH kind of a weird post

the S/S would have TMI lol. Why you hesitant to call Wiz scum?

I think SirCakes is scum cause he usually does this slank type shit as scum (i taught him)

But i dont want to lim him, i want to play with him

@cakez can you confirm/deny this endorsement? Further, can you confirm gob likes to scumslank? Further further, hey, how’s it goin?

When did I say I like to scumslank lol? I just taught him that strat, not that i use it myself. Showing the limits of your thinking,

Bingle

.

I was skimming gob's iso the first time I checked this and didn't notice the direct address to Bingle at the very end of a longer post

Oh fuck off lol

I had a bad day

Roden

, I can't always give 100%. Sometimes I dont even want to give 30%

yea imma need more than that

SirCakez

, we got like 5 or 9 days too so we got the time 2 hash this out.

Gob is either town or he's spewed like half the town and possibly one of his partners

spewed: Flavor Bingle Roden Cakez Myself (debatable)
my good TRs: Thomith Bingle AnimatedWiz

So if gob is scum, out of 12 players, minus 7 town and 1 scum, that's 1 scum left in the last 4 {Hu Tao, Dunnstral, Celebloki, Naerys}

I

want

to be right so badly and I'm just going to be up front about that

VOTE: gob

This is all wrong. You want to be right and lim me for associations but it wont give anything cayse im not mafia.

Kind of seems like you built in an excuse when i flip town with the whole “i want to be right” stuff

[gob]

So you gonna keep voting me or what

[gob]

In a way I dont care if i die here because its beneficial for my meta if i get milimmed day 1 here.

But thats a bad way to thinker

[gob]

VOTE: gob

Fine by me. I’ll take the benefit for my meta here since nobody is playing how i want them to anyway.

[gob]

Just so everyone knows

Im town, not gonna defend myself here in anway (although ill still hunt and post and stuff).

If you are also town you need to defend me from the wolves trying to lim me here (kyouko)

if you (town) dont help me, then i wont help you. I am not so desperate to change who i am to please you all.

[gob]

If i die shoot cakez btw vigi

[gob]

VOTE: gob

Fine by me. I’ll take the benefit for my meta here since nobody is playing how i want them to anyway.

What do you mean by nobody is playing how you want them to?

Exactly what i said. People arent pressuring kyoko, cakez and other people at the rate i deem good.

[gob]

UNVOTE: gob

dont actually hammer me.

[gob]

UNVOTE: gob

dont actually hammer me.

I thought you wanted to go?

would be a misplay to be on my own wagon day 1 here

[gob]

I would argue it’s a misplay to not defend yourself either—if you feel like you can hunt well, it’s important that you try to convince us of that so you can actually, y’know, stay around and hunt.

takes me a while to get going. I also feel like ive been hunting fine, i just hit wolf early and now theyre trying to fear-vote me out.

[gob]

This push REEKS buti dont want to call it out cause then its omgus

[gob]

I would argue it’s a misplay to not defend yourself either—if you feel like you can hunt well, it’s important that you try to convince us of that so you can actually, y’know, stay around and hunt.

takes me a while to get going. I also feel like ive been hunting fine, i just hit wolf early and now theyre trying to fear-vote me out.

which wolves did you hit early

kyo cakez

Gob, dont claim.

dont tell me wat to do but i appreciate it

[gob]

I'm hesitant to turn on Wiz, but if Gob and Naerys are town, they look baaaad

???? what have i done wrong lol

you guys just say stuff sometimes

[gob]

there's no true support for Gob. The support in Kyo/Wiz turned on Gob, and on a gamestate level, that feels like Gob is in this game alone, and thus town.

Wiz/Kyo is not pure imo, and I think I'm leaning Wiz.

Wiz/Hu Tao

Hu Tao, sorry if you're town, not trying to push you today, something I can't shake with you. At least it'll keep you alive if you are town.

alright sick

[gob]

@Mod - i think Wiz voted Gob a couple pages ago.

gob (5): Bingle, Roden, ssbm_kyouko, AnimatedWiz, Naerys


there is scum here somewhere, which kinda sucks, because I town read all 5 of them at times. i just dont see zero scum being on Gob, even if Gob is scum.

Honestly, especially if Gob is scum.

If Gob is town, I almost think it's more likely no scum are on him.

Interested in the explanation of this, because I feel like I disagree.

Gob Scum partners always bus in this situation if Gob is scum. It's a Sinking Ship, and they will want to be seen on it.

Like I said earlier, Gob has little to no true support, so if Gob is scum, their teammates have accepted they have to be okay with them going down.

If Gob is town, they have a lot of heat on them, and scum don't need to help push the wagon. Earlier I was pushing Gob pretty hard, and the fact that I'm now off the wagon, and they're close to fade, is a tell that scum are okay with the Gob wagon.

Good analysis actually. That's a good point, even if i was mafia here it would be a misplay since the mafia would be setting me up as the bus Day 1.

[gob]

A Gob flip might give us the most information no matter if he flips green or red right now if I think about it due to the last few pages.

this is where I'm at. The fact that they could just be scum has me thinking they are the best elim today.

I do think Bingle looks rough on a Gob town flip, but I also was adding heat, so I can't really blame them. People were dropping coal by my feet, and I saw, and just threw it on the fire.

I do think that Kyo also did this.

I'm also playing with the idea that Roden has me pocketed, however, them coming into this game pushing me immediately was a play.

But the last time I saw that play happen, was a ScumRCE choosing to nonstop push me Day 1 - Roden was a partner. I even turned on Roden, and got in a 1v1 with Roden in that game, before that exchange lead to me super town reading Roden. Roden replaced out, Hu Tao replaced in. I called out 3 of the 4 scum correctly in that game, but Hu Tao/Roden slot was the one that slipped through, as Hu Tao stated in ANOTHER game that was mainly because of Roden's play.

So I am looking my Roden Read over as well, but it's not a thing I'll figure out Day 1.


My final verdict:

we fade Gob or AnimatedWiz today.

You're probably mafia here because if you were Town you would hard-defend me here, not the half-defense you're giving me. But thanks anyway. I'm down to vote Animated Wizard

[gob]

But thanks anyway. I'm down to vote AnimatedWiz

I feel like if you were actually convinced it was me, you’d actually vote me—I think you’re hesitating because you’re trying to gauge Flavor’s reaction to you saying this before you commit to the vote.

I have bigger scumreads than you but I'm fine with flipping you today. Seems fine to me. Especially if its to save my own skin. Since i do generally agree with Flavor's analysis here. It's just that Flavor is most likely mafia so they still have me in PoE even tho im clearly spewed town.

[gob]

A Gob flip might give us the most information no matter if he flips green or red right now if I think about it due to the last few pages.

this is where I'm at. The fact that they could just be scum has me thinking they are the best elim today.

I do think Bingle looks rough on a Gob town flip, but I also was adding heat, so I can't really blame them. People were dropping coal by my feet, and I saw, and just threw it on the fire.

I do think that Kyo also did this.

I'm also playing with the idea that Roden has me pocketed, however, them coming into this game pushing me immediately was a play.

But the last time I saw that play happen, was a ScumRCE choosing to nonstop push me Day 1 - Roden was a partner. I even turned on Roden, and got in a 1v1 with Roden in that game, before that exchange lead to me super town reading Roden. Roden replaced out, Hu Tao replaced in. I called out 3 of the 4 scum correctly in that game, but Hu Tao/Roden slot was the one that slipped through, as Hu Tao stated in ANOTHER game that was mainly because of Roden's play.

So I am looking my Roden Read over as well, but it's not a thing I'll figure out Day 1.


My final verdict:

we fade Gob or AnimatedWiz today.

You're probably mafia here because if you were Town you would hard-defend me here, not the half-defense you're giving me. But thanks anyway. I'm down to vote Animated Wizard

i quick hammered an obv town Whemestar in my last town game page 7. 2/3 of my day 1 scum reads got faded Day 2 and Day 4, and I guiltied the 3rd scum that got faded Day 3.

why do you think id hard defend you, i think your flip ends with scum flips somewhere even if you end up being town

Seems like all the potential info you could have from a me!flip you already have access to if you split up the game into different worlds and think longer.

Basically what im saying is, your play may be 'correct' but the next step in improving is flipping me without flipping me. Which you can do by the time Day 2 rolls around, so to speak.

Then vote for me, or for him, even—you’re currently just preventing the town from making an elimination you actually agree with. I don’t understand this behavior coming from a townie—it makes more sense to come from scum trying to deny the town any more information to help us sort.

Jesus dude it's just a vote. I can do it any time. You're trying to shade me for something that's not a big deal. I'm not gonna be ur little doggie and vote after you say so, so don't ask again.

[gob]

Hu Tao - seems good to me
ssbm_kyouko - lim this slot sometime
Dunnstral - could be maf
abundantly - could be maf
Flavor Leaf - could be maf
Bingle - could be maf
Roden - seems good to me
AnimatedWiz - seems good to me
RCEnigma - seems good to me
SirCakez - could be maf
Thomith - seems good to me
Naerys - seems good to me

[gob]

Alright, seems i can't live here.

My main read everyone needs to remember is that I think Flavor is running deep wolf this game. Because their analysis on my wagon makes sense and spews me town, but they still are voting me (since I am stepping on all the mafia's toes).
Also kyouko's slot could flip maf

[gob]

im not very deep wolf if i were scum here, id be more open wolfing.

Open wolfing is basically deep wolfing on this site

[gob]

Hu Tao - seems good to me
ssbm_kyouko - lim this slot sometime
Dunnstral - could be maf
abundantly - could be maf
Flavor Leaf - could be maf
Bingle - could be maf
Roden - seems good to me
AnimatedWiz - seems good to me
RCEnigma - seems good to me
SirCakez - could be maf
Thomith - seems good to me
Naerys - seems good to me

I have been trying something. The less I do. The more town read I am every game. This seems to be my new strategy

Well right now you need to save me, that's the most towny thing you could do right now.

Anyway the main reason I tr'd you is because you seem more in line with your town game plus you wouldn't be a good lim Day 1 anyways.

[gob]

i relooked over Thomith, and I dont think that them and Gob are Scum/Scum ever. I think I'm happy bringing Thomith back up to top townsville.

Who are your mafia partners?

[gob]

Hu Tao pseudo TMI'ing Gob and Thomith both town.

That is actually what you did with your read on me into voting me but okay.

[gob]

VOTE: Flavor Leaf

This is basically open wolfing which as I said before is deep-wolfing on this site. The borderline TMI with their read on me into slandering notorious LHF Hu Tao because after I died, the spotlight would've shine bright on Flavor.

[gob]

VOTE: gob

Fine by me. I’ll take the benefit for my meta here since nobody is playing how i want them to anyway.

What do you mean by nobody is playing how you want them to?

Exactly what i said. People arent pressuring kyoko, cakez and other people at the rate i deem good.

Why do you even think Im scum

Cause you basically did nothing towny, and then AtE'd (like rn) when called out on it. Gotta get that outta here

[gob]

Actually let's go here VOTE: Cakez

I'll give FL a day.

This makes me think you and FL are partners, actually. Cakez is good and has lots of heat against him, but he hasn't done enough. Flavor is pretty blatantly scummy and this bluff right now isn't convincing me otherwise.

[gob]

@Roden/Bingle - thoughts on sheeping Hu Tao onto Wiz today?

I'd rather vote Hu Tao or Gob, it feels like they're trying to muddle up the game and discredit active voices.

Hm, maybe that's a good thing when the active voices are mafia

[gob]

VOTE: Flavor Leaf

This is basically open wolfing which as I said before is deep-wolfing on this site. The borderline TMI with their read on me into slandering notorious LHF Hu Tao because after I died, the spotlight would've shine bright on Flavor.

Hu Tao is not LHF lol

I've seen them get limmed Day 1 though. Not saying they're bad or anything. I think they get LHF limmed Day 1 since they don't care as much when town.

@Roden/Bingle - thoughts on sheeping Hu Tao onto Wiz today?

I'd rather vote Hu Tao or Gob, it feels like they're trying to muddle up the game and discredit active voices.

Yeah, both of them also take everything I do on a face value thing even though I do tons of things specifically to see other people’s reactions.

I have a hard time seeing them as T/T

So what about you taking everything I do at face value? Lol

[gob]

@Roden/Bingle - thoughts on sheeping Hu Tao onto Wiz today?

I'd rather vote Hu Tao or Gob, it feels like they're trying to muddle up the game and discredit active voices.

Who am I discrediting?

Nobody. Roden is clearly trying to discredit you and me pushing against Flavor's gamestate.

But Roden himself doesn't want to get his hands dirty.

See i can put everything on the table too

[gob]

Actually let's go here VOTE: Cakez

I'll give FL a day.

This makes me think you and FL are partners, actually. Cakez is good and has lots of heat against him, but he hasn't done enough. Flavor is pretty blatantly scummy and this bluff right now isn't convincing me otherwise.

Problem is, I've seen FL act like this as town before. So he could be town here. And I don't think you're scum here either.

I was mafia and Flavor was traitor and this type of stuff was exactly what they did. Huge posts calling out people and basically crafting an entire narrative. In that game I encouraged it.

[gob]

Gob, you act like i care if i have to go through town you today

I have hammered conf town as town to win games before

I don't care about your accomplishments in the small leagues. I have been in games where the skill is so high you wouldn't even be able to follow along with the surface level let alone the under-level.

But i really dont care about your justifications. I am town and limming me is a bad play. All the stuff about associations is made up crap. Everyone always says that but the amount of people who go back and actually use the associations from day 1 is.... like 0.1%.

[gob]

Also, as scum, why would i want you here today?

I’m get claims as scum. I told you not to claim.


It’s kinda rough, though, cuz i advocate for mass claims early as town too.

hopefully later on in the game we wont have to hear about your amazing meta and accomplishments that nobody cares about.

[gob]

You could never hang with the people I play with.

[gob]

We can just fight over the course of the game unless one of us dies here. No sense in clogging up the thread. You may be good or bad, idk. From what I've seen you're not that great but whatever. Not everyone top tier.

[gob]

I can't fight with you with my full powers cause I would get banned.

[gob]

I can't fight with you with my full powers cause I would get banned.

You don’t know how to fight with full powers without getting banned?

Well fighting with my full powers I usually get heated. I don't want to say something bad and get banned.

Come on, gimme the one two. I’m working you hard right now.

LOL i am sorry for baiting you but its not happening. Tonight, at least. I got distracted with other stuff and now im not in that mindset.
I will say though, excited to have a back and forth with you like that sometime. I unironically will probably lose.

[gob]

Yuck, nerd shit.

[gob]

I'll be seeing the movie this weekend. Heard so many great things.

[gob]

I think we just lim Cakez here. If he's town, it's his fault. Not even really joking although many may take it as a joke.

No?

Cakez is pretty towny and this is a garbage take.

How so Bingle?

[gob]

Kind of seems like you built in an excuse when i flip town with the whole “i want to be right” stuff

This doesn't track, for me. Like, Kyo pretty clearly has put a lot of effort into this and without going through to check I can say it's fairly trustworthy that it's all true because it would be insanely easy to catch Kyo lying here. I have a pretty solid townread on Kyo based on the effort put into this tell, and suspecting this much effort on a tell that's predestined to ripcord out doesn't seem natural to me.

I didnt really see much effort, but i am not saying i saw everything. I was basically also explaining my first read of the game after the fact with that post, now I have other shit going on. Your read on Cakez you seem confident in too and im willing to listen to you there.

[gob]

Oh, and the thing.

VOTE: Roden

You mind if i hop on this or nah?

[gob]

we circled back around to just doing Gob? I need to read last few pages

i keep telling you guys flavor is mafia here.

Anyway at least dont hammer me so i can give some real opinions before i die

[gob]

bro 2 29 year old weirdos freakin out over a mafia game yea that aint cool to me

[gob]

we circled back around to just doing Gob? I need to read last few pages

i keep telling you guys flavor is mafia here.

Anyway at least dont hammer me so i can give some real opinions before i die

I feel like you tell me a different thing every time I'm in thread

I dont care what you feel like cause i know what my alignment is and what im trying to accomplish

[gob]

What did i do to deserve this?

[gob]

I’m Doctor yea

[gob]

No you aren't lol

You got a lot of TMI this game it seems.

i would check/kill you at some point as well.

Flavor check, Roden check/kill, and whatever i said before

[gob]

dont counterclaim that, thats a claim bait

no its not im legit doctor

i already accepted im dyijg here so im just racking up assoc when i cna

[gob]

VOTE: gob

Fine by me. I’ll take the benefit for my meta here since nobody is playing how i want them to anyway.

Surely the Doctor self-voted and tried to die...

You think i wouldnt? lol Rodent you have been going against me all game. Quite the death tunnel

[gob]

VOTE: gob

Fine by me. I’ll take the benefit for my meta here since nobody is playing how i want them to anyway.

Surely the Doctor self-voted and tried to die...

Maf Doc. Which helps imply Gunsmith possibility in the game, meaning Hu Tao legit was setting up to defend against a Gunsmith guilty.

We both know im town at this point. If ur dont then youre REALLY bad

[gob]

i think a townGob flip helps town win the game anyways

Me too.

[gob]

anyway guys if/when i die, just consider the shit i said about roden, flavor, etc.

Might not be right but just keep it in mind.

[gob]

is that hammer?

1-2 maf on my wagon guys. The people who TR'd me but still limmed me are the TMI people.

Good luck, not to town. But to mafia. I am rooting for you guys. This town didn't deserve me, seriously. And SirCakez, you continue to let me down even now in the future.

[gob]

Game would’ve been a lot different if i didn’t die.