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[Broccoli Quest 2]

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[Broccoli Quest 2]

Is it bad to townread Kyoko for basically having the same opinions as me?

[Hu Tao]

Fucking hell
I’m a gunsmith, stop this shit

VOTE: Hu Tao
A part of why I didn’t care for the claim was because of my role so now that it’s out there, I feel like we should go back there

Righteous theater?

[Broccoli Quest 2]

1989 is such a laughable reaction to being asked to actually comment on the game that I do think Elements knows they’re going to get executed today.

And I presume you think it's scum, rather than town, who knows they are doomed?

[ssbm_Kyouko]

@Guillotina

Spoiler: quoted a large post

This

Summary

Still pretending I'm an spectator where Guillotina is not me.

Not mafia/mafia

Hu/Guillo
Random Nurse/Guillo
Gamma/Guillo
Timmer/Guillo
Celebloki/Guillo
Black/Guillo
Kawaii/Guillo
Kyo/Guillo
Naerys/Guillo
Kyo/Kawaii
Dunn/Elements
Dave/Elements
Black/Elements
Gamma/Elements
Gamma/Random Nurse
Hu Tao/Timmer

What does this mean?

In a world where my pre-flip associations are 100% accurate (they've never been 100% accurate before, but really close they have).

Guillo

is unaligned with 9 players
Element is unaligned with with 4 Players
Gamma is unaligned 2 Players

This means that if Guillo was scum in this game, He spewed half the game town on Day 1 alone, and it would have been really easy to pinpoint who his teammates were, from the remaining players. Too bad Guillo is town, though.

This also means that if any of those 9 are scum, Guillo is spewed town from them
Counterpoint to that would be, Guillo did some premium distancing, but I'm hopeful that if any of them flip scum, Guillo would have helped town to prove his worth and loyalty besides this spew.

Elements

flipping scum would spew Dunn, Dave, Black and Gamma town.

Gamma

flipping scum would hard spew Elements and Random Nurse town.

Timmer

flipping scum would clear

Hu

and Vice versa.

Conclusion

Guillo being unaligned with 9 players out of 16 makes him thread spew town or the best infoyeet of 2023 if the majority of players here suspect him that much.

Elements would clear a whooping total of 4 players town, so if these two were scum together, the game would be pretty much on auto mode.

I can confirm that Guillo is not scum, so we are not living in a perfect world where town auto this shit.

Hopefully this injects my thoughts and process in the thread and I have helped you determine whether I deserve the sussuspicion I've gotten so far or not, as well as some insights about the interactions between some of the players.
If you have questions or concerns about this post or my previous posts, let me know.
Hopefully when I come back I'll have more info to analyze, but for now, good night.

VOTE: Celebloki

This

I'm at page 11

Gamma Emerald - lean scum

Spoiler:

I claim miller

Same

jfc

Strange reaction

Gamma you've still got your rvs vote on me, why?

haven’t felt a need to move it
VOTE: KawaiiKame
They pinged me somewhat with how they unvoted kyouko, not strongly though

I feel like forgetting your vote is +scum and this reads a bit hedge-y

Random Nurse
Celebloki
Naerys-

For now my first impressions are that dave and both millers could be town.
Still too far from finding a scum, but its a start.

Was it just for the question he asked or was there more to it?

davesaz
Hu Tao - town

Spoiler: I townread all of these quotes

VT

I understand why people claim miller early on, but why throw out a VT claim on page 1? I'm coming to this site mostly from a background where claiming was against the rules, so I would love to hear how claiming this helps the town.

So scum will not target me and I can last till end game. I believe in myself to find scum as long as I'm alive long enough. Now I just need to be towny enough to not be voted out. I've eliminated half of the work.

I think Hu Tao was just joking with the VT claim

Nope. I'm VT

Timmer feels town so far

The "I'm terrible at D1" feels more like a townie trying to explain why he doesn't have many reads as opposed to Mafia worried about their optics

They seem curious but scum can also be curious so I'm not giving them that easy of a town read so far.

Elements is a champion baffler for sure.

I'm not inclined to vote for the millers. I think I agree with Gamma's take.

Not sure why but this post gives me scum pings. I wish I could tell you why

I belive Dunn and ssbm's claim. Unless the small chance they are scum together or scum informed of miller's in this game. Either way, I wouldn't want them today at the very least. If there are actual millers, there is likely a way to confirm that somehow regardless.

Broccoli Quest 2
Guillotina
Cat Scratch Fever
Keyleth
Dunnstral - I was inclined to believe the miller claim out of the gate but kind of hate his posting (sorry). I dunno
KawaiiKame - town
ssbm_Kyouko - town
TimmerRC - early posts spoilered below kinda pinged scum but then 111 was good

Spoiler:

VT

I understand why people claim miller early on, but why throw out a VT claim on page 1? I'm coming to this site mostly from a background where claiming was against the rules, so I would love to hear how claiming this helps the town.

It's been awhile, remind me why voting millers is the best option?

Elements - town for having zero filter and just livetweeting every thought she has into the void
Andresvmb
Black

Your read on me sucks ass
viewtopic.php?t=91760
Read that and try telling me my reaction to two miller claims happening doesn’t make sense!
As for my vote, I didn’t forget, I just hadn’t been strongly pinged by anything by that time

And Kyouko's meta case on Gamma

Are what I would outline as hard spew from Gamma.

So to summarize, in my opinion, besides myself, these are the players that completely look unaligned from Gamma.

Elements
Random Nurse
Cat person slot
Kyouko

When you made 595 did you have quotes to support Gamma/Guillo, RN/Gamma, and Elements/Gamma all not being scum together? I think reading 569 that excluding CSF/gob/Roden slot as a Gamma partner maybe makes sense, so if you had quotes for the others in notes or in a previous post could you share?

[Hu Tao]

Since i have seen town!Tao lie about being doctor, i suppose she could be town.
I dont see what scum!Broccoli would gain from defending town!Tao - more likely he would support the easy lim. Defending Hu Tao makes sense only in case of both town or both scum. Both being scum is something to think about.

They are still trying to confuse things by saying they protected Gamma when they didn't

. Where is the town motivation there?

I didn't see this happen, was I reading too fast?

No. People just weren't reading the game earlier

[Celebloki]

Hmm

UNVOTE:

A lot of sense is being made regarding Hu. I'm not ready to give her a clear the rest of the game, but I can agree that she's not a good lim today. At the very least we know she's not a scum PR and so effort is probably best going elsewhere.

[Hu Tao]

In any event, I haven’t read why Hu Tao is getting pushed today for some claim, but that’s a really easy way to lose the game (focusing on claims versus play).

This is the most based thing anyone has said this game.

People are scared to actually do reads on play vs what's 'mechanically correct'

[Naerys]

I absolutely love making fool of myself, ffs -.-
Meh, after i stop banging my head i´ll do some rereading

[Hu Tao]

Celebloki is probably town. Hu Tao is almost certainly town. The only reason Gamma would, in her doomed moment, try to counterwagon onto a buddy (scum!HT), would be if Gamma herself had a scum PR and Hu Tao was a goon, or if Hu Tao was the strong PR and Gamma thought the wagon would not go through.

We know neither of these are the case because Gamma is a flipped Goon and we have Celebloki saying Hu Tao is vanilla, so unless you think Gamma, Hu Tao, and Celebloki are all scum together, you should not be voting Hu Tao.

If anyone does think that I'd like to know why they think HT and Celebloki are scum individually.

Good logic. You're better at articulating this than I am. Which is why I was saying naerys is scum for saying Cele vs me. Since that didn't make sense

[Hu Tao]

I'm fine with passing on naerys today though if you're really set on her as town.

[Hu Tao]

Is it bad to townread Kyoko for basically having the same opinions as me?

No I think Kyouko explained in a townier way than you tbf. Not that I think you're scum but I think I Town read her more

[Broccoli Quest 2]

I absolutely love making fool of myself, ffs -.-
Meh, after i stop banging my head i´ll do some rereading

What is this in regard to?

[Hu Tao]

Hmm

UNVOTE:

A lot of sense is being made regarding Hu. I'm not ready to give her a clear the rest of the game, but I can agree that she's not a good lim today. At the very least we know she's not a scum PR and so effort is probably best going elsewhere.

Welcome to the

dark

good side

[Broccoli Quest 2]

Is it bad to townread Kyoko for basically having the same opinions as me?

No I think Kyouko explained in a townier way than you tbf. Not that I think you're scum but I think I Town read her more

Damn. So more words and bigger posts = townier? Good to know.

[Naerys]

I absolutely love making fool of myself, ffs -.-
Meh, after i stop banging my head i´ll do some rereading

What is this in regard to?

Everything since this day began.

[Hu Tao]

I absolutely love making fool of myself, ffs -.-
Meh, after i stop banging my head i´ll do some rereading

What is this in regard to?

It's the naerys thing where she's waffling based on whoever is talking at the moment. I still think she's sus but willing to overlook today

[Hu Tao]

Says she's made a fool of herself but not unvoted

[Hu Tao]

Is it bad to townread Kyoko for basically having the same opinions as me?

No I think Kyouko explained in a townier way than you tbf. Not that I think you're scum but I think I Town read her more

Damn. So more words and bigger posts = townier? Good to know.

[Hu Tao]

I'm not sure what to make of guillotine at the moment.

[Broccoli Quest 2]

Anyway I still think there is/was one scum on Hu Tao's wagon and since I TR everyone else (except Naerys who's just null town), I am going to VOTE: Roden

[Broccoli Quest 2]

I absolutely love making fool of myself, ffs -.-
Meh, after i stop banging my head i´ll do some rereading

What is this in regard to?

It's the naerys thing where she's waffling based on whoever is talking at the moment. I still think she's sus but willing to overlook today

That's actually a really good way to put it.

Is it bad to townread Kyoko for basically having the same opinions as me?

No I think Kyouko explained in a townier way than you tbf. Not that I think you're scum but I think I Town read her more

Damn. So more words and bigger posts = townier? Good to know.

[Naerys]

I absolutely love making fool of myself, ffs -.-
Meh, after i stop banging my head i´ll do some rereading

What is this in regard to?

It's the naerys thing where she's waffling based on whoever is talking at the moment. I still think she's sus but willing to overlook today

And how would you feel if you realised that you allowed yourself being swayed like a fool. You deserved to be pushed after Cele claimed you are vanilla. I dont like town fakeclaims, beceause i still remember how Virgo fake claimed guilty on Psyche and then it made mess of the game. I believe you were also in that large. Then you successfully managed to confuse me into thinking Cele could be lying and then Nurse appeared.
Yeah pretty bad play from me, but i have nice company in there.

[Naerys]

Says she's made a fool of herself but not unvoted

UNVOTE: Hu Tao
i was distracted by my dog, he didnt care that i wished to post something here, he needed his petting

[davesaz]

Liars are dangerous and should always be eliminated, but that's a minority view that probably won't prevail.