?? You agreed and then complain now after I questioned you?In post 1033, cw357 wrote:lmfao are u just pr hunting now?In post 983, Hu Tao wrote: How terrible would a mass claim be right now. Because as of right now, I feel like if we don't get scum today or by vig shot, we lose effectively.
VOTE: Hu Tao (although I think I already did iirc)
I had found 2 of those 3 on the day before. We didn’t have to misfade me thereIn post 1048, Hu Tao wrote:I'm town and I don't want to be vigged. Because I feel the game is in a tough state and I trust myself to solve it. It's like that one game where you were Miller and I had to find the remaining 3 scum with no misvotes remaining, and was able to do so. I trust myself to do the same here if we flip town todayIn post 1022, Flavor Leaf wrote: Me knowing that Hu Tao could easily be trying to get me to town read them and avoid being vigged is one of the things keeping me from fully scum reading Pavowski, though. I also think it's possible it's a ScumPav, TownKyouko.
EBWOPIn post 1053, Flavor Leaf wrote: I’m probably leaning Pavowski or Kyouko today.
this feels like a deliberate misunderstanding of Dragon in a way that pings w/w - asking for mundane clarification feels like a direct attempt to safeguard interactions analysisIn post 399, Hu Tao wrote:? He's saying he's voting someone who is scummy. What do you meanIn post 395, DragonEater70 wrote:Then actually find and vote scumIn post 393, Laplacian wrote: I'm at E-2, no shit I'm in survival mode. The two leading votes are basically me vs you right now, and I know I'm town while you've been exuding scum vibes, so ofc I'm going to try to get people to vote smart instead of following ssmb's train tunnel to a mislim.
low-effort, start of joyboy tunneling/scumreadIn post 469, Hu Tao wrote:I actually agree with this. Policy elims are terribleIn post 457, cw357 wrote:people who actively try to pl are auto-impostorIn post 247, Joyboy wrote: VOTE: CW
THIS MEAT IS TERRIBLE! HEALTHY BUT TERRIBLE!
LETS GET IT OUT OF HERE SO WE CAN GET TO THE GOOD MEAT TOMORROW
VOTE: Joyboy
This is (as an explanation for previous HPE vote) an extremely blatant reliance on past town-metaIn post 472, Hu Tao wrote: Kyouko did you ever reply to my post asking if you see any similarities between this game and the smugglers game for HPE? I have a tendency to scumread HPE a lot, so not sure.
literally just that joyboy called for plIn post 629, Hu Tao wrote:Yeah. I think I explained before the vote but let me check
tunnelling
more tunnelingIn post 657, Hu Tao wrote: Also I agree joyboy seems the best vote today so far
In post 973, Hu Tao wrote:I don't hate this planIn post 967, DragonEater70 wrote: If all my town reads are correct (which is 100% not the case), then the following are town:
Purple, Flavor, Dragon, HPE, cw, Kyouko, Hu Tao
Meaning the scum team is exactly Gera/Pav/Joyboy
However like I said this is incorrect
What I think is pretty likely is there's 0 scum in Purple/Dragon/Flavor/Kyo, 1 scum in cw/HPE/Hu Tao, and 2 scum in Gera/Pav/Joyboy
Pav is my most confident SR but I would 100% go for Gera/Joyboy. I think fading one and vigging another out of these three will give us a scum flip 95% of the time.
VOTE: JoyboyIn post 974, Hu Tao wrote:Okay let's go joyboy if you think I'm just scum bussing.In post 968, DragonEater70 wrote:Dark green - conftownIn post 589, D1 Final VC wrote:Votecount 1.6
With 13 players alive, it takes 7 votes to eliminate. Day 1 ends in (expired on 2024-01-02 07:27:34).
Light green - confident these are town / conftown FMPOV only
Based on this we can rule out HPE/Pav/Gera scum team as well as Hu/cw/Joy scum team. However cw and Hu Tao have individually high partner equity with Joyboy (distancing).
Pav's vote looks less opportunistic than I remembered.
Maybe the solve is like 2 out of cw/Joy/Hu Tao + 1 out of HPE/Gera. I need to look at combined ISOs to confirm likelihood of this.
CorrectIn post 978, Flavor Leaf wrote: If CW is town, and Hu Tao/Dragon town, if I’m dead, CW voting one of Hu Tao/Dragon is game over.
You forget (or intentionally ignore) that town!cw misvotes 90% of the time in ELo.In post 984, Pavowski wrote:Missing scum today would be bad but wouldn't end the game, I don't think.In post 983, Hu Tao wrote: How terrible would a mass claim be right now. Because as of right now, I feel like if we don't get scum today or by vig shot, we lose effectively.
Currently 10 players, 3 scum
We vote off town, that's 6 town to 3 scum
Assuming scum kills tonight and it's unstoppable (I dunno how likely this is, just playing out worst cases) that's 5 town to 3 scum
Assuming vig shoots green tonight that's 4 town to 3 scum
Y'know, suboptimal, but not a game over if we miss today. I dunno if we need or want the mass claim, and I personally am not going back looking for softs. Maybe Kyo wants a homework assignment.
Literal proof of this in the literal next post.In post 985, cw357 wrote: i am vt
not opposed to a hu tao wagon, who's feeling it?
maybe hu tao/dragon/hpe is scumteam?
Thing is you are the one omgusingIn post 986, Pavowski wrote:Dragon you seem to have gone right to to "Pav's reasons are bad therefore scum" without ever passing through "Pav's reasons are bad, therefore dumb town".In post 957, DragonEater70 wrote: But 900, 863 and 867 read as flailing / throwing mud everywhere in search of a viable wagon
Here's the thing -- your play has been chaotic enough that it's been hard to read for me from game start. You've made some odd votes, sheeped FL almost without fail, and now that I'm professing some serious misgivings about you, wham, I'm one of your top scumreads. I don't think you OMGUS me like that as town.
You're the one I want today, baby, but we'll always have d1
VOTE: PavowskiIn post 1067, DragonEater70 wrote: Let me explain my thought process on Pav, because I sorta intentionally didn't explain it earlier as I'd wanted to see reactions to my vote on him.
Day 1 he was being voted/shaded for some eary game weirdness which I was willing to ignore as I could see coming from town. Then he made more posts which came across as towny.
However today with Abnegation flipping green and me re-evaluating my scumread on HPE (I think HPE is nulltown right now FWIW), I realized I'd been most likely townreading scum. And while his posts *sound* towny, they are definitely NOT impossible to fake, which makes him the likeliest person to be the scum I'd been townreading. He *sounds* like he's trying to solve the game, but when I actually read his posts I cannot an actual thought process about people's alignments to which I could say "yeah, this person actually had this thought and is actually trying to figure things out".
Okay this genuinely made me chuckleIn post 988, Pavowski wrote:In post 985, cw357 wrote: i am vt
not opposed to a hu tao wagon, who's feeling it?
maybe hu tao/dragon/hpe is scumteam?I kinda ship DE/Hu Tao as scumteam with a lurker but this is awfully lazy defense of scum!Dragon by a scumpartnerIn post 942, Hu Tao wrote: I've been town reading dragon since day 1
I really don't mind being shot by FlavorIn post 1000, Pavowski wrote: Rather you shoot Dragon if you flip me/CW today but you do you boo
Maybe somebody can change my mind over the coming days, tho
I'm re-voting Dragon tomorrow
In post 1005, Flavor Leaf wrote: Im beginning to think Kyouko is probably scum here as well, so that might be a vig shot.
In post 1006, Flavor Leaf wrote: idk, that Lap wagon was really bad, and I knew it too. If I wasn't vig, i wouldnt have faded there, even with the vanilla claim.
Stop stealing my thoughts Flavor.In post 1007, Flavor Leaf wrote: HPE's vote on Lap is awful too.
