Nope. Dragon is townIn post 3207, Black wrote: 139 is pinging me. Specifically, Dragon mentioning that HPE has three scum posts already, while also calling Hu town when she hadn't even done anything at that point. Seems like an informed perspective
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I haven't had a chance to look at Gamma's posts but I know she has a personal issue with Hu Tao that has spanned several games, so I wonder if this could have factored in to her scumreadIn post 3272, Flavor Leaf wrote: Gamma was doing the same thing Bingle was doing and trying to not let Hu Tao-FL from town reading each other-
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Why?In post 3275, Hu Tao wrote:
Nope. Dragon is townIn post 3207, Black wrote: 139 is pinging me. Specifically, Dragon mentioning that HPE has three scum posts already, while also calling Hu town when she hadn't even done anything at that point. Seems like an informed perspective
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I think it was yesterday, or at least recently, that you said you had all kinds of reasons to scumread Dragon but tonally, you think he's town.In post 3271, Flavor Leaf wrote: @Pav - do you feel what I’m saying about the intangible with Dragon?
I think I agree with that.
I still hang up on the mechanics of how town has 3 PRs and scum have gotten wrecked in the night actions, and I still don't see how we make it to the endgame with him alive, but I do feel a certain towniness emanating from Dragon.(I may or may not have been high when I typed this.)-
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Flavor did you consider Hu Tao miscounting votes a couple days ago and thinking she was limmed? I keep going in circles on whether that's faked or not. Like it's not hard to fake, but I dunno if Hu Tao does it (she claims she never has)
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eh, Dragon claimed JK here before this game started, and somehow claimed the same role.
That is so like...ugh.
that being said, Dragon isn't actually 2-shot here.
A Roleblocker and a Juggernaut on scum team makes sense against Cop, Vig, JK. Thomith might have been juggernaut'd Night 1 which explains why I didn't get hit.
HPE also probably felt pressure from me, and wanted to kill me in addition to my conf town.
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no, but Hu Tao does dumb tell a lot as town. I remember their reaction to a night kill being really bad too, but I think that's how Hu Tao acts. Their unvote of Kyouko fits that as well.In post 3281, Pavowski wrote: Flavor did you consider Hu Tao miscounting votes a couple days ago and thinking she was limmed? I keep going in circles on whether that's faked or not. Like it's not hard to fake, but I dunno if Hu Tao does it (she claims she never has)
AND NOBODY WANTS TO TALK ABOUT IT
Except Hu Tao of course, which isn't the help I want
I also know Hu Tao to bus as scum pretty obviously when she knows a partner is going down, and I think she's off of the HPE wagon.
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Why are you voting Pav if you don't want to fade Pav?In post 3250, DragonEater70 wrote: That's great
That's what I wanted since Day 1
So let's go gera? Or idk maybe Black but I do wanna see if she's gonna change her read or just tunnel and what else she thinks about the game.-
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Yeah I didn't want to bring it up. But it feels similar.In post 3243, DragonEater70 wrote: BTW
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I feel like Black would know Dragon's town energy so I'm surprised she scumreads her here. Which makes me think she could just be scumIn post 3263, Flavor Leaf wrote: I’m kind of feeling like Black is the play today, if scum, go Geraint, if town, go Dragon tomorrow.
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Yep I think soIn post 3273, Flavor Leaf wrote: I think that last game was the first time Hu Tao and I lost as town/town together.-
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I can see itIn post 3276, Flavor Leaf wrote: Gamma is Bingle this game, Hu Tao.-
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Dragons vibe as town and scum are completely different.In post 3278, Black wrote:
Why?In post 3275, Hu Tao wrote:
Nope. Dragon is townIn post 3207, Black wrote: 139 is pinging me. Specifically, Dragon mentioning that HPE has three scum posts already, while also calling Hu town when she hadn't even done anything at that point. Seems like an informed perspective
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I've only read like two Dragon posts aside from what he posted since I replaced inIn post 3286, Hu Tao wrote:
I feel like Black would know Dragon's town energy so I'm surprised she scumreads her here. Which makes me think she could just be scumIn post 3263, Flavor Leaf wrote: I’m kind of feeling like Black is the play today, if scum, go Geraint, if town, go Dragon tomorrow.
Something feels weird.
Can you explain the differences in detailIn post 3289, Hu Tao wrote:
Dragons vibe as town and scum are completely different.In post 3278, Black wrote:
Why?In post 3275, Hu Tao wrote:
Nope. Dragon is townIn post 3207, Black wrote: 139 is pinging me. Specifically, Dragon mentioning that HPE has three scum posts already, while also calling Hu town when she hadn't even done anything at that point. Seems like an informed perspective
VOTE: Dragon-
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Maybe it's just Dragon/Hu. I'm not really liking her shading me here after a couple of people have already shown interest in voting for me-
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I’m in a middle ground where it’s either a really good sign Black paired up with my Hu Tao/Dragon from before or a really bad sign.
Hu Tao/Dragon have been unnaturally linked like that since early game, and a lot of times it felt too much to be S/S, but i have thought about the ‘do they do that as scum here?’
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I spent like 3 days trying to get either of them to explain a single reason for town reading the other, and I didn’t get anything until like Dragon post-Black replace in. (It did line up with a completed game ending that also helped me think Hu Tao was town, though)CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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I am fairly certain if I was scum you would have got that from me by now. The fact you haven't means (to me) that you know I am not and are just confusedIn post 3292, Flavor Leaf wrote: I’m in a middle ground where it’s either a really good sign Black paired up with my Hu Tao/Dragon from before or a really bad sign.
Hu Tao/Dragon have been unnaturally linked like that since early game, and a lot of times it felt too much to be S/S, but i have thought about the ‘do they do that as scum here?’
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i voted for Purple before Pav, but no one was interested in that so went to my second choiceIn post 3262, Flavor Leaf wrote: Yeah, 3 scum.
And Geraint hasn’t really done much, and that’s kinda the thing.
They also limiting their push to Pav.
And HPE, day that one knew they were going down, spam pushed Geraint too hard, so either distancing or trying to act like it was distancing.-
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i think it is because i have been uber-passive in the game and people just can't work me out, and there are not any other really strong options in the game.In post 3260, Black wrote: I will look into Geraint when I get some time later. If you have a post where you summarize your case on them you can link it and I'll start there
I agree that i cannot be allowed to get to the end game (partly because i will vote wrong in the end game) and town will need to sort out my slot, but now is not the time-
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Hu Tao making several posts about how she has anti-partner equity with HPE doesn't feel good. She seems pretty defensive in those posts, like she felt good about not being linked to HPE and then suddenly got accused of it-
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Hmm. You've been passive in both games I've played with you and you were town, so that's not a read I feel carries much weightIn post 3296, geraintm wrote:
i think it is because i have been uber-passive in the game and people just can't work me out, and there are not any other really strong options in the game.In post 3260, Black wrote: I will look into Geraint when I get some time later. If you have a post where you summarize your case on them you can link it and I'll start there
I agree that i cannot be allowed to get to the end game (partly because i will vote wrong in the end game) and town will need to sort out my slot, but now is not the time-
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I kinda like thisIn post 3294, geraintm wrote:
I am fairly certain if I was scum you would have got that from me by now. The fact you haven't means (to me) that you know I am not and are just confusedIn post 3292, Flavor Leaf wrote: I’m in a middle ground where it’s either a really good sign Black paired up with my Hu Tao/Dragon from before or a really bad sign.
Hu Tao/Dragon have been unnaturally linked like that since early game, and a lot of times it felt too much to be S/S, but i have thought about the ‘do they do that as scum here?’
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