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Post Post #914 (isolation #0) » Tue Dec 05, 2023 6:29 am

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In post 911, Black wrote:
In post 909, ssbm_Kyouko wrote: Naerys feels like she has a decent chance to be scum here
In post 909, ssbm_Kyouko wrote: So yeah after reading closer I don't think Naerys is scummy up to 555. She's towny even.
These reads are so different that I'm having a hard time believing they are real

To me it seems like you were trying to leave room for you to support and eventually join the Naerys wagon but then couldn't justify the read when asked about it, and I think that's more likely to come from scum

VOTE: kyouko
lol what

Context is a thing
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Post Post #916 (isolation #1) » Tue Dec 05, 2023 6:31 am

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Keyleth, what do you think on the Naerys wagon? And what do you think of Black's vote?
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Post Post #1748 (isolation #2) » Sun Dec 10, 2023 9:07 am

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In post 1744, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 1726, Celebloki wrote: Good morning, Hu Tao lied. She’s vanilla.

VOTE: Hu Tao
You could be a scum role cop. You softed doc/bodyguard.

Why would you think scum have 2 goons in a complex setup?
Makes no sense to claim as town to do this.
Wdym by the red?

Also could you quote the soft please?
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Post Post #1755 (isolation #3) » Sun Dec 10, 2023 9:09 am

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Naerys it pains me to say this but I agree with Hu Tao that your read is rubbish.

Pedit: Gamma is a her btw.

Additionally, Elements you should probably unvote HT if you are town.
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Post Post #1757 (isolation #4) » Sun Dec 10, 2023 9:10 am

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Naur. Another altslip.
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Post Post #3706 (isolation #5) » Sun Jan 28, 2024 4:59 am

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In post 3592, Naerys wrote:
In post 3587, Enchant wrote: In post 2862, Naerys wrote:
VOTE: elements

My dear scummies, i wish you merry Christmas!
Hope you enjoy the holiday <3
Town.
Since you actually give AI to a post where i wish merry christmas it shows you are grasping basically at anything
I just want to comment on this because I think it's very interesting and could help you play both town and scum better (and also highlights that Enchant is a good town player):

I was also confused at the time and thought that Enchant was randomly assigning town/scum to your posts. But after rereading, I realized what they were doing is commenting on the fact that most of your votes this game were on town, not on scum, except for when you voted guiltied/CC'd scum (and Guillo at one point when others wanyed him dead):

Spoiler: original Enchant post
In post 3587, Enchant wrote: Let's assume Naerys final mafia and:

In post 21, Naerys wrote: VOTE: Davesaz
Good morning!
Town.
In post 537, Naerys wrote:
In post 535, Broccoli Quest 2 wrote: I'm delighted to hear that you judge me by my color and species and NOT by my behavior. That's truly the best way to judge people.
Town.

Well, since it behaved quite nastily in my stomech i would say i judged it by behavior too.
Idk if juicy. I dont get much of solving vibe from Keyleth, so if she posted some RL it´d be nice. Same goes Kawaii.
Andresvmb lurks and i have habit of putting some pressure at lurkers.
VOTE: Andresvmb
Town.
In post 1220, Naerys wrote: VOTE: kyouko
Should be e-2 if i counted right
Town.
In post 1641, Naerys wrote:
In post 1630, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 1625, Naerys wrote:
In post 1605, Dunnstral wrote: I will point back to Kawaiikame's vote on Keyleth looking like a mafia vote.
Could you elaborate on this
I believe they are parroting some earlier sentiments on Keyleth but don't really believe what they wrote. It's not clear how they think Keyleth has good associations. Their vote timing looks like jumping on the wagon to end the day.
Thank you.
VOTE: Kawaii
So close to the deadline we need to compromise. I think this could be acceptable one.
Town.
In post 1721, Naerys wrote:
In post 1719, Broccoli Quest 2 wrote: Gamma was also unaligned with Black
You are stating obvious, Gamma flipped red and Black flipped green. Whats the point of saying stuff that everyone can see? Sus
VOTE: Broccoli
Town.
In post 1737, Naerys wrote:
In post 1733, Naerys wrote: Since i have seen town!Tao lie about being doctor, i suppose she could be town.
I dont see what scum!Broccoli would gain from defending town!Tao - more likely he would support the easy lim. Defending Hu Tao makes sense only in case of both town or both scum. Both being scum is something to think about.
Havent finished my thoughts here, lol. Sent it by mistake.
Anyway, while faking doctor is something Hu Tao did as town, i think we need to look at her behavior since beginning. First she claims vanilla, then when she gets pushed she claims doctor. At the very best she feels untrustworthy, at the worst these are scummy moves. She could be doing it bcz she knows there are players who have seen her faking doctor as town, so she counts on that those will TR her.
Conclusion: flipping Hu gives us decent info. It solves potential Hu+Broccoli+Gamma buddies.
VOTE: Hu Tao
Town. Even acknowlidges it's Town.
In post 1771, Naerys wrote:
In post 1768, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 1231, Celebloki wrote: Even though she wants me dead, I still don't think Kyouko's the play today.

This might seem completely out of left field, but I am just pondering scenario's.
In a game this size, and considering Hu Tao's claim of Complex Indecisive Doctor, is a second town protective role likely balance-wise or would that be too town sided?
I think i was hasty in believing Celebloki.
UNVOTE: Hu tao
Okay.
In post 1821, Naerys wrote:
In post 1820, Dunnstral wrote: Lastly I think Gob lied about their reason for replacing out being that they were in too many games. Point being they joined a new game right after replacing out of this one and have posted nearly a hundred times on the site since then.
VOTE: Dunnstral
Gobs reason is his own and this post is really bad.
Town.
In post 1878, Naerys wrote: Hu Tao vs Celebloki could contain a scum.
Hu Tao looks much worse, that slot is untrustworthy. Starting with her is less risky than limming potential useful town PR but also her flip gets plenty of useful info.
I wanted to go this way but allowed Broccoli and Hu to make me hesitate. :roll:
Out of the 3 i feel like Hu has the best chance of rolling scum.

VOTE: Hu Tao
Town.
In post 2023, Naerys wrote:
In post 2017, Hu Tao wrote: Says she's made a fool of herself but not unvoted :roll:
UNVOTE: Hu Tao
i was distracted by my dog, he didnt care that i wished to post something here, he needed his petting
Okay.
In post 2211, Naerys wrote: Well since there was a babysitter its possible there is another limited protective. Makes me lose interest in Roden lim
VOTE: Elements
In post 2252, Naerys wrote:
In post 2246, Broccoli Quest 2 wrote:
Naerys and Elements, I would greatly aporeciate if you stop sitting on your hands and doubting my every play, and instead help me vote scum.

Much love, Broccoli.
The day i dont doubt you at all is the day you should worry.
I like Guillo post much more than yours
VOTE: Roden
Mafia, after "CC" happened and it's bussed slot.
In post 2862, Naerys wrote: VOTE: elements

My dear scummies, i wish you merry Christmas!
Hope you enjoy the holiday <3
Town.
In post 3097, Naerys wrote: VOTE: Timmer
Town.
In post 3119, Naerys wrote: UNVOTE:
Okay.
In post 3265, Naerys wrote: VOTE: Guillotina
If i sent my fn notice to scum i will just jump off the rock
Nah kidding this would be the exact example of my luck
I kinda feel like i wish this day to end so if anyone wants to hammer
Mafia, after i started asking questions.
In post 3311, Naerys wrote: VOTE: JV
Town.
In post 3401, Naerys wrote: VOTE: Prince of Paterson
do try to keep up with the replacements, Broccoli
and yes lets vote this slot, kindly stop using me as your shield scum, thx
Mafia, after being guiltied.


So for example in the post where you wished merry Christmas, you were voting Elements who was town (Enchant wasn't saying that was a town post by you).

So anyway the takeaway to all of this is that as town, you could look for someone who has really bad pushes and consistently pushed flipped town but not flipped scum. And as scum you could push your partners even without them getting guiltied so that it doesn't look so bad when they flip.

And honestly that's a really good find by Enchant, so well done Enchant.
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Post Post #3708 (isolation #6) » Sun Jan 28, 2024 5:20 am

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I do agree Kyo also played well. GG.

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