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[Naerys]

You?

Leaning Darth as scum for now.

[Hu Tao]

Darth has so many posts. I'll try to find. But basically when he said I was scum day 1 for "agreeing with a post that said I could be mafia" and day 2 when I tried to bait a scum with the guilty and he said I was trying to force a cc

[Hu Tao]

NGL, Vivax's sudden vote on Dunnstral feels like a panic move in response to a sudden plethora of convincing evidence of Hu Tao's guilt. Why are we suddenly shifting to Dunnstral? How convenient that it's a fairly inactive person. How odd that Vivax says so little to justify the vote.

I don't really like how little engagement Vivax made with my request for info on Hu Tao, either. He seemed unaware that I even suspected him, and frankly I haven't a clue what to make of that, but it's either neutral or willful scum obstinance.

We actually agree for once

What parts do you agree with here?

Um. Read my post before that. It pretty much explains?

Do you agree that vivax was panicking to the plethora of evidence of your guilt? I did read the post before but I don’t see how that applies when ninja is talking like you are guilty and then you agree with the post.

UNVOTE: unvote

VOTE: Hu tao

This one

[Hu Tao]

It's possible he thought I was an easy elimination since I wasn't posting as much beginning to middle of day 1

[Naerys]

It would be nice if Darth commented on this, once he comes here. I owe him answer to his question, i will be back in couple of hours for that.

[Hu Tao]

Want some thoughts from vivax too

[Hu Tao]

Maybe I should just go with my reads going into today. Because if i was right I'd be so sad

[Naerys]

Naerys can you outline your read progression on Luca, cause early on you had him town, so what changed?

First i find interesting that gob

never voted Hu or Luca

even tho he voted plenty of townies, without much sense
Then its bunch of vote counts where luca doesnt really look good

2.9 (no changes)

Gob (4) :

Naerys / outoforder / DarthPunk / Hu Tao

[Exe-2]

Oatsmaster (4) :

SuperfluousNinja / Dannflor / Luca Blight / gob

[Exe-2]

Luca Blight (2) :

oatsmaster / Vivax

Not Voting (1):

Grackaroni

With 11 Alive, it takes 6 to secure an execution.

Day Two ends in (expired on 2024-02-18 14:43:52)

Mod Notes

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2.12

Oatsmaster (4) :

SuperfluousNinja / Dannflor / Luca Blight / Grackaroni

[Exe-2]

Gob (4) :

Naerys / Hu Tao / Darth Punk / Vivax

[Exe-2]

SuperfluousNinja (1) :

outoforder

outoforder (1) :

gob

Not Voting (1):

oatsmaster

With 11 Alive, it takes 6 to secure an execution.

Day Two ends in (expired on 2024-02-18 14:43:52)

Mod Notes

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curious thing about that one is that one scum was 100% bussing, also Luca looks really BAD here

I allowed then Luca sway my mind a bit then, if he and vivax were buddies then all they really needed was to pocket you and yeet me or hu
but looking at those vc i am leaning luca again lol

[Naerys]

Maybe I should just go with my reads going into today. Because if i was right I'd be so sad

Do you think that scumn vivax and luca would try to yeet darth instead of pocketing him and trying to yeet me or you?

[DarthPunk]

Maybe I should just go with my reads going into today. Because if i was right I'd be so sad

Do you think that scumn vivax and luca would try to yeet darth instead of pocketing him and trying to yeet me or you?

I cannot be pocketed here.

Luca knows he looked bad, he probably knew I was going to try and yeet him.

His best play is to try to try to 1v1 me and hope I flip and he wins on the spot .

And to create sufficient distance and chaos to whoever his partner is (which has become more unclear)

If he tries to pocket me he will just get yeeted imo and he can’t call me scum when I call him scum.

I think he played this exactly like he had to play it as mafia.

But hey I know I’m town

[DarthPunk]

4100 is proof on its own, it’s entirely unreasonable to think all mafia were on gob in that vote count.

[DarthPunk]

I’ll be really annoyed if Luca gets away with this.

[DarthPunk]

It would be nice if Darth commented on this, once he comes here. I owe him answer to his question, i will be back in couple of hours for that.

What do you want me to comment on here?

[Naerys]

I forgot that gob claimed tracker. I hate mornings.

VOTE: Luca Blight

He didn‘t.

Vivax here rather quickly got off gob, even tho with valid reason

[Naerys]

It would be nice if Darth commented on this, once he comes here. I owe him answer to his question, i will be back in couple of hours for that.

What do you want me to comment on here?

On Hu Tao showing post where you SR her,she said your reasons were bad

[DarthPunk]

It would be nice if Darth commented on this, once he comes here. I owe him answer to his question, i will be back in couple of hours for that.

What do you want me to comment on here?

On Hu Tao showing post where you SR her,she said your reasons were bad

I stand by that what I said in that post and others about it. I don’t see how you can agree with a post that calls you scum.


I went through your iso and ht iso yesterday and posted my thoughts there

[DarthPunk]

I forgot that gob claimed tracker. I hate mornings.

VOTE: Luca Blight

He didn‘t.

Vivax here rather quickly got off gob, even tho with valid reason

He did that a lot, he actually hard defended gob a bunch early on.

My tr on him is based on meta more than his positions with gob.

[DarthPunk]

I'm kinda over it though. This game is too draining

Scum fatigue?

VOTE: gob

L-2

I think I prefer to keep him at that for a while instead of L-1.
I'm compensating for Dannflors unvote.

Okay then. Let's see if this helps

VOTE: gob

E-1

UNVOTE:

I prefer another day where we can discuss both of them at E-2.

Many asleep rn

This series of posts make HT look better and vivax look worse, this is when gob and I were both at around exe-2

Having read HT's iso she looks a lot better than I thought, there are a couple of weird things from earlier that don't sit right with me but I'm not that confident that she is the second mafia over say, Nearys.

HT and Nearys are basically the antithesis of each other.

One has an iso that overall looks bad (nearys) but slipped in a way that made me think they were town.

HT has a iso that overall looks reasonable but slipped in a way that made me think they were mafia.

Generally that would make me think that Neary's was more likely to be town, but it's not a strong enough reason to pick one over the other.

Nearys calls out gob early, but HT puts him at exe-1 BEFORE the fakeclaim was revealed.

both are kind of ok with luca yeet but not really driving it.

Gun to my head I would say yeet one of these two over vivax, and probably HT over Neary's but I could easily be wrong.

If I had to give more of a reason, it would be that HT looks too -clean- and nearys plays like she doesn't care about how she looks if that makes sense.

going to dive Vivax next.

[Naerys]

Vivax/Luca feel unlikely, they could just pocket Darth and be done with it
Vivax/Darth feels unlikely due Vivax pushing Darth at this stage

that leaves us with Hu/Luca and Hu/Darth

what do you think about my brainstorming here, Darth

[DarthPunk]

Just fyi Luca is going to come in and say: why would I do this or that if I am mafia.

That is wifom and should not be listened to.

[DarthPunk]

Vivax/Luca feel unlikely, they could just pocket Darth and be done with it
Vivax/Darth feels unlikely due Vivax pushing Darth at this stage

that leaves us with Hu/Luca and Hu/Darth

what do you think about my brainstorming here, Darth

It makes sense from a perspective of you being town.

I know I am not paired with vivax.

I don’t agree that vivax and Luca couldn’t be partnered tho.

[Luca Blight]

Vivax/Luca feel unlikely, they could just pocket Darth and be done with it

Vivax/Darth feels unlikely due Vivax pushing Darth at this stage

that leaves us with Hu/Luca and Hu/Darth

Vivax is

not

pushing Darth, vivax is hedging his bets, hoping for a Luca elimination today, while in the event that Darth is eliminated it gives him a chance on Day 6.

Vivax only started pushing Darth after I did, and then tried to tie me and Darth together as partners. There is clear scum motivation there in terms of a vivax/Darth scum team.

I'm convinced at this point that both you and hu tao are town.

[Vivax]

I‘m back. Long workday.

Ready to put Luca at - 1

Darth Vader, are you his father ?

If not, we can proceed.

[Luca Blight]

And here he is to prove my point - vivax doesn't want a Darth elimination, he wants a Luca elimination.

This is why Darth tried so hard to save vivax on Day 4 - because they are partnered.

[DarthPunk]

Vivax/Luca feel unlikely, they could just pocket Darth and be done with it

Vivax/Darth feels unlikely due Vivax pushing Darth at this stage

that leaves us with Hu/Luca and Hu/Darth

Vivax is

not

pushing Darth, vivax is hedging his bets, hoping for a Luca elimination today, while in the event that Darth is eliminated it gives him a chance on Day 6.

Vivax only started pushing Darth after I did, and then tried to tie me and Darth together as partners. There is clear scum motivation there in terms of a vivax/Darth scum team.

I'm convinced at this point that both you and hu tao are town.

Not true, he was pushing me all game.