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Post Post #272 (isolation #0) » Mon Feb 12, 2024 1:44 pm

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In post 265, NotAScum wrote: Let's hope that the replacement turns out to be more active.
No promises, I also am notascum as well though
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Post Post #273 (isolation #1) » Mon Feb 12, 2024 1:45 pm

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In post 250, SzmarzLeek wrote: Bella's lim imo is 75% chance of a miss, I would say 3 out of 4 times people who don't give a damn are town
I sent that math to the boys in the lab, it checks out
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Post Post #274 (isolation #2) » Mon Feb 12, 2024 1:46 pm

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In post 266, gob wrote: VOTE: NotAscum

Alright everyone hop on this wagon. This is a wolf most likely;
Wait, would they lie so blatantly in their username like that??
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Post Post #275 (isolation #3) » Mon Feb 12, 2024 1:47 pm

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In post 269, Aureal wrote: Because basically every post contains pontification about Mafia theory and not a whole lot else? It's awkward for sure. So, so consistently awkward I was starting to lean towards it maybe just being a playstyle thing. I'm certainly not opposed to a wagon there again though, could be a wolf playstyle thing. :P

VOTE: NotAScum
I am down for limming someone just for being mech forward(sorry mod).

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Post Post #276 (isolation #4) » Mon Feb 12, 2024 1:48 pm

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Ooh pagetop just after repp in, firing on all cylinders here
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Post Post #278 (isolation #5) » Mon Feb 12, 2024 2:08 pm

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In post 277, TemporalLich wrote:
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Aureal (2) Little Will o' Wisp, Bingle
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Post Post #280 (isolation #6) » Mon Feb 12, 2024 2:17 pm

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In post 279, Aureal wrote:
In post 274, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 266, gob wrote: VOTE: NotAscum

Alright everyone hop on this wagon. This is a wolf most likely;
Wait, would they lie so blatantly in their username like that??
Hey, get your own joke material; I already wore that one out! :evil:
If you made a joke, but I wasn't here for it.

Did it actually happen?
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Post Post #283 (isolation #7) » Mon Feb 12, 2024 2:24 pm

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In post 281, Bingle wrote:
In post 264, TemporalLich wrote:
Bellaphant is being replaced for inactivity.
Oh sweet. I’ve been wanting to play another game with enchant. Enchant rocks.
I am afraid I have some bad news.....
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Post Post #286 (isolation #8) » Mon Feb 12, 2024 2:32 pm

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In post 284, Bingle wrote:
In post 283, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 281, Bingle wrote:
In post 264, TemporalLich wrote:
Bellaphant is being replaced for inactivity.
Oh sweet. I’ve been wanting to play another game with enchant. Enchant rocks.
I am afraid I have some bad news.....
I’m afraid I have some worse news: no whiskey till Saturday. I’m planning on a nice double of glenmorangie 18 to go with a steak dinner and then jack and cokes to close out the night then though.
Unacceptable, I can't play in a game under these conditions

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Post Post #290 (isolation #9) » Mon Feb 12, 2024 3:25 pm

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In post 287, Bingle wrote:
In post 275, Doctor Drew wrote: I am down for limming someone just for being mech forward(sorry mod).
On that note, I think it’s time for mech advice. Doc, you should either target gob or holster tonight, with a preference for targeting gob. I’d estimate the equilibrium to favor an 80/20 split.

The reason for this does have mathematical grounding but requires understanding of topics like Nash equilibriums and a decent grounding in game theory.

With that said, it’d be way more fun if the doc targets someone who isn’t gob and the scumteam no kills to hopefully get a false innocent result on themselves. If there’s no kill tonight, IC can reveal the doc target with no risk so it’s low risk for mason, and it’s not directly impacting the timeline for scum miselim wise so it’s low risk for scum team. And we will get to talk about how Bingle talked scum into no killing night 1 which will be fun for all of the bingles in the thread.

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Post Post #293 (isolation #10) » Mon Feb 12, 2024 3:58 pm

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In post 292, Bingle wrote:
In post 291, Aureal wrote: Glad I'm not the only one who had some confusion there :lol:
Okay, now I’m confused. Who is confused about what now?
This is the pro strat gameplay I signed up for
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Post Post #295 (isolation #11) » Mon Feb 12, 2024 5:06 pm

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In post 294, Aureal wrote: Maybe role names shouldn't be allowed in usernames :lol:
But it doesn't say scum anywhere in your name
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Post Post #307 (isolation #12) » Tue Feb 13, 2024 6:43 am

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In post 304, Gypyx wrote:
In post 278, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 277, TemporalLich wrote:
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Not voting: Nora., NotAScum

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Oopsiedoodle, sorry didn't realize that was E-1
why make this post but no unvote?
It was more 'oopsie should have said it was E-1' rather than 'oopsie I didn't mean to put them at E-1'
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Post Post #319 (isolation #13) » Thu Feb 15, 2024 4:24 pm

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VOTE: Szmarz

I will go with the will of notascum
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Post Post #325 (isolation #14) » Fri Feb 16, 2024 4:09 am

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In post 322, Gypyx wrote:
In post 319, Doctor Drew wrote: VOTE: Szmarz

I will go with the will of notascum
You serious?
One of the few times I am, yes
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Post Post #327 (isolation #15) » Fri Feb 16, 2024 5:43 am

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In post 326, Gypyx wrote: VOTE: Doctor Drew

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So you are voting me because I voted szmarz?
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Post Post #333 (isolation #16) » Fri Feb 16, 2024 6:00 am

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In post 331, Gypyx wrote:
In post 327, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 326, Gypyx wrote: VOTE: Doctor Drew

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So you are voting me because I voted szmarz?
i don't think town!drew ever sees 15-poster NAS sussing leek and goes "Yes, that is the lim that's gonna win us the game

you would probably rather trust your own reads, but if you don't have any genuine reads i can see how one chooses that path
Notascum voted szmarz just before they hammered, I think it is a good place to start the day at the very least
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Post Post #336 (isolation #17) » Fri Feb 16, 2024 6:15 am

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In post 335, Gypyx wrote:
In post 333, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 331, Gypyx wrote:
In post 327, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 326, Gypyx wrote: VOTE: Doctor Drew

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So you are voting me because I voted szmarz?
i don't think town!drew ever sees 15-poster NAS sussing leek and goes "Yes, that is the lim that's gonna win us the game

you would probably rather trust your own reads, but if you don't have any genuine reads i can see how one chooses that path
Notascum voted szmarz just before they hammered, I think it is a good place to start the day at the very least
invoking NAS as an authority on scumreading just sounds like a bad idea to me, and while i do agree that the conclusion he's reached is probably good, you invoking these reasons is misguided at best and disingenuous at worse

besides, willow flipped town too, why not sheep him rather than NAS?
This really comes down to that you are upset I am voting leek(is a pain typing out the first part of their name lol)
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Post Post #338 (isolation #18) » Fri Feb 16, 2024 6:22 am

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In post 337, Gypyx wrote: i might be a bit upset irl for unrelated reasons

and now this just sounds like you expected me to TR you for doing that
Well hopefully your irl stuff gets better :)

But, not sure how you got that I expected you to town read me at all
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Post Post #345 (isolation #19) » Fri Feb 16, 2024 8:09 am

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In post 339, Gypyx wrote: eh, thanks

well, just the way you phrased it? like "you are upset i am voting leek" certainely is a way to present things and not an innocent one
I voted Leek, then you came after for 'reasons', and all I could figure out was you are upset for some reason that I voted Leek. Yes that is a very surface level read by me, but I am trying to figure out why you did jump down my throat for one vote to start the day on them.
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Post Post #348 (isolation #20) » Fri Feb 16, 2024 9:26 am

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In post 347, Gypyx wrote:
In post 345, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 339, Gypyx wrote: eh, thanks

well, just the way you phrased it? like "you are upset i am voting leek" certainely is a way to present things and not an innocent one
I voted Leek, then you came after for 'reasons', and all I could figure out was you are upset for some reason that I voted Leek. Yes that is a very surface level read by me, but I am trying to figure out why you did jump down my throat for one vote to start the day on them.
In post 343, Nora. wrote: @Doctor Drew have you caught up with the game? :o
Not really, is there something important I should be briefed about?
'reasons' was cause i didn't wanna give you a hint on what i was actually gripping about with you

once again you're really hyperfixating on the fact that you *voted* for leek, i don't care, what i care about is how the mindset you've been presenting just doesn't make sense imo in a town!drew world

this has really taken you a lot of time to present it as a surface level read though, like yeah idk, good question from Nora, are you caught up?
No I meant my read on your reaction to my vote is surface level, my vote on Leek is just a good place to start the day, at the very least
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Post Post #354 (isolation #21) » Fri Feb 16, 2024 5:23 pm

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In post 353, Bingle wrote:
In post 352, gob wrote: leave this one to me everyone.

I was born for these moments
Compelling argument, welcome to the towncore.
Ehhhh, give it a bit more time before before you let him in
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Post Post #377 (isolation #22) » Sat Feb 17, 2024 12:36 pm

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In post 359, Nora. wrote:
In post 345, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 343, Nora. wrote: @Doctor Drew have you caught up with the game? :o
Not really, is there something important I should be briefed about?
>.> Nvm lol i was kinda hoping you’d just say yes and I’d catch you in an epic gotcha there cuz your vote on Leek seems to be “following the will of NAS” but if you read the game NAS’s read on Leek kept changing super frequently: it went from “kinda eh” to “convinced they’re scum” to “maybe they’re a villager” to “they’re scummy again” so while you make it sound like this was NAS’s one solid read and dying legacy, they were actually rather conflicted throughout.

I guess my question to you is why do you assume following NAS’s vote is the best course of action? Usually in my experience you’d listen to the votes of the Night Killed villagers, not the day executed ones. What makes you think NAS would’ve been on the mark here?

Don’t get me wrong I think Leek is probably a wolf too, but I don’t understand why you would sheep the executed villager over someone like Gob who is confirmed and alive and solving and slightly more informed than the rest of us…? Since all you’re doing is sheeping a read atm (correct me if I’m wrong)
You are overthinking what I did.

I looked back and saw who NAS last voted, and it was Leek. As I keep saying, felt like a good place to start at the very least.

The fact that there is discussion around the vote, Gypyx getting angry about it and you hemming and hawing about not ending the day before they show up, could be something depending on a possible flip.
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Post Post #381 (isolation #23) » Sat Feb 17, 2024 4:02 pm

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In post 380, gob wrote: I've analyzed the wagon from day one.

Given the fact Will O' was killed, I think the three people off-wagon (Nora, Gypx, and Bingle) look really bad.

I will LOOK into their isos from here forward. Going on-wagon we have 4 people iirc as the pool, maybe its 3 cant remember. But I think its safe to hunt off-wagon here judging from the will o' night kill. (Mafia wouldn't kill on the main-wagon if 2 of the mafia are on it. Aka probably 1 maf on 1 maf off. And off-pool is smaller)

So im saying right now that everyone should focus on those 3 people for the lim today. I haven't read any of today's discussion btw. So if you were being sussed and you're not nora gypx or bingle, then you are off the hook 4 today my friend.
I agree about Nora and Gypx.......but ehh, not sure about BJingle
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Post Post #395 (isolation #24) » Sun Feb 18, 2024 1:12 am

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In post 390, Aureal wrote: I'm realizing that I was apparently suspicious to both dead townies so I'm a little surprised that there's been absolutely no movement towards me here in this gamestate. Maybe scum want a non-gob townie to start it so they have someone to sus for a bad push next. Or maybe Drew is scum so they realize trying to come at me already is just gonna blow up in their face.
Lol, I don't know what makes you think I would be scared to come after you in a world where you were town and I was scum
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Post Post #413 (isolation #25) » Sun Feb 18, 2024 8:13 am

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In post 398, Gypyx wrote: is my drew read bad or like is it just that no one cares
The thing is that I keep saying that you just seem angry that I voted Leek, and you aren't really explaining what exactly is your issue with my vote.

That being said that if you are town, there isn't such a thing as a bad push imo. But this kinda feels like a push on bad faith. Even you asking this question feels like you are worried about the optics of a push on me.
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Post Post #418 (isolation #26) » Sun Feb 18, 2024 8:36 am

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In post 415, Gypyx wrote: at best i'm getting comments in spec chat about "woah omg gypyx was right" and that's it
Well I will give you a comment here in the game chat 'well Gypyx is way off'
In post 416, Aureal wrote: It's true that Drew is not doing much and it's hard to get much of a read on him as a result. Have you played with Drew before, is there something in particular that makes you think him being lazy with his vote is likely scum?
All my votes are full of energy and vigor

Pre Edit: Wouldn't you say my vote on Leek has done quite a bit here?
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Post Post #429 (isolation #27) » Sun Feb 18, 2024 9:15 am

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In post 426, Gypyx wrote:
In post 425, Aureal wrote: Okay, it's honestly a little baffling that you're so hard on Drew for voting a slot you maaaaaaaaybe have a read on.
I can totally see drew's behaviour today as a poor attempt to create distance with his partner, i'd even argue it makes more sense than drew trying to do that to town!leek in a poor attempt to steer today's exe towards him
I placed a single vote with not much reason, how is that steering the ex towards him??
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Post Post #433 (isolation #28) » Sun Feb 18, 2024 9:26 am

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In post 432, Gypyx wrote:
In post 431, Aureal wrote:
In post 426, Gypyx wrote:
In post 425, Aureal wrote: Okay, it's honestly a little baffling that you're so hard on Drew for voting a slot you maaaaaaaaybe have a read on.
I can totally see drew's behaviour today as a poor attempt to create distance with his partner, i'd even argue it makes more sense than drew trying to do that to town!leek in a poor attempt to steer today's exe towards him
Maybe vote Leek then?
"hey i know you're voting someone who's active and generating content based off of that but can you please park on the afk spot when we aren't even near the consolidation stage?"
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Post Post #435 (isolation #29) » Sun Feb 18, 2024 9:58 am

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In post 434, Gypyx wrote: nah i'm getting your PhD ass first
You certainly have a lot more confidence in your reads than you have had in previous games

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Post Post #436 (isolation #30) » Sun Feb 18, 2024 10:00 am

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In post 434, Gypyx wrote: nah i'm getting your PhD ass first
Also, PhD is Phake Doctor
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Post Post #438 (isolation #31) » Sun Feb 18, 2024 10:03 am

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In post 437, gob wrote: Doctor Drew is one of my favorite players
I think the IC is trying to pocket me


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Post Post #441 (isolation #32) » Sun Feb 18, 2024 2:24 pm

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In post 439, Gypyx wrote:
In post 435, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 434, Gypyx wrote: nah i'm getting your PhD ass first
You certainly have a lot more confidence in your reads than you have had in previous games

What changed?
i think i'm at roughly the same confidence that i was in previous games, i'm just trying to have my voice be heard and that's pretty much the only thing i wanna acheive anymore, this is in continuation of how i played 2326 and i'm also curious of how you possibly would've read me as "lacking confidence" in that one, appart from maybe the dann read but i think that came from a place of voting someone i knew was probably town
In post 440, Gypyx wrote: actually um nvm i suck at the game who we voting
First off, you don't suck at this game. The last couple games we played you were town(right?) and you had some good reads. What I meant about the confidence this is that in the dead thread/post game you talked about how, well just like this, that you aren't good at mafia.

So when you come at me with this super confidence that I am definitely scum, just seems a bit off.

Also do notice that I am not voting you, I do genuinely want to pick your brain, I just am currently trying to figure out your motive.
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Post Post #507 (isolation #33) » Mon Feb 19, 2024 11:18 am

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In post 457, Bingle wrote:
In post 452, TemporalLich wrote:
Enchant replaces SzmarzLeek.
Oh god not this again. Yet another Dr Drew.
What the shit?

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Post Post #522 (isolation #34) » Mon Feb 19, 2024 4:48 pm

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In post 520, gob wrote: You know Gypex is scum because she is arguing over killing the IC as a night kill.

Like WTF why would we ever talk about the night kill LOL
I get it

But just can't think they are scum here
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Post Post #591 (isolation #35) » Thu Feb 22, 2024 1:13 pm

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In post 590, Gypyx wrote: fair

i feel like it might be easier to find the 2 towns in me / drew /aureal / nora but also like who the fuck is town here

Drew is basically acting like scum who doesn't care

Aureal i thought she was mason but like clearly she isn't so i'll try to look again here

Nora reads like she played to pocket me pretty hard
I care way more as scum.

Or more accurately, I definitely am more proactive
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Post Post #593 (isolation #36) » Thu Feb 22, 2024 1:39 pm

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In post 592, Gypyx wrote: so yeah that's great but that just gives you an excuse to simply lurk as scum cause "that's your towngame"

the reason i'm saying that is also cause this is a very different kind of activity than what i remember of you
:facepalm:

You just decided I have been scum from the start right?

Have you ever seen me as scum?
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Post Post #596 (isolation #37) » Thu Feb 22, 2024 4:10 pm

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In post 594, Aureal wrote:
In post 584, gob wrote: NOOOOOO BINGLE
Excessively performative. This is scum.
Now you are just stealing my jokes

For shame
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Post Post #598 (isolation #38) » Thu Feb 22, 2024 4:36 pm

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In post 597, Aureal wrote: You stole my jokes first!
Here is a good joke

Is it you or Nora?
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Post Post #619 (isolation #39) » Fri Feb 23, 2024 8:00 am

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In post 618, Nora. wrote:
In post 381, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 380, gob wrote: I've analyzed the wagon from day one.

Given the fact Will O' was killed, I think the three people off-wagon (Nora, Gypx, and Bingle) look really bad.

I will LOOK into their isos from here forward. Going on-wagon we have 4 people iirc as the pool, maybe its 3 cant remember. But I think its safe to hunt off-wagon here judging from the will o' night kill. (Mafia wouldn't kill on the main-wagon if 2 of the mafia are on it. Aka probably 1 maf on 1 maf off. And off-pool is smaller)

So im saying right now that everyone should focus on those 3 people for the lim today. I haven't read any of today's discussion btw. So if you were being sussed and you're not nora gypx or bingle, then you are off the hook 4 today my friend.
I agree about Nora and Gypx.......but ehh, not sure about BJingle

drew, could you explain your progression on Bingle leading up to this post?
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Post Post #622 (isolation #40) » Fri Feb 23, 2024 10:55 am

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In post 620, Gypyx wrote: actually Nora's play today is really weirding me out, Aureal is also just... not concerned? idk, that's not how i expect town to act in what is for now a scum sweep

went through the game and Nora + Aureal just makes so much sense as the scumteam
What happened to me being scum?
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Post Post #624 (isolation #41) » Fri Feb 23, 2024 11:35 am

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In post 623, Gypyx wrote:
In post 622, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 620, Gypyx wrote: actually Nora's play today is really weirding me out, Aureal is also just... not concerned? idk, that's not how i expect town to act in what is for now a scum sweep

went through the game and Nora + Aureal just makes so much sense as the scumteam
What happened to me being scum?
i think this being a bastard game with a 3 man scumteam is not out of the question

but also, idk, i'm trying really hard to keep in mind bad play is not necessarily scum play, something with your unapologetic confidence also reminds me of jacksonVirgo in my last normal, who was town
You realize that if there were 3 scum, the game would be over, right?

Also I kinda feel I have been a bit too snarky engaging with you, I apologize for that.
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Post Post #632 (isolation #42) » Fri Feb 23, 2024 2:01 pm

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In post 628, Gypyx wrote:
In post 624, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 623, Gypyx wrote:
In post 622, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 620, Gypyx wrote: actually Nora's play today is really weirding me out, Aureal is also just... not concerned? idk, that's not how i expect town to act in what is for now a scum sweep

went through the game and Nora + Aureal just makes so much sense as the scumteam
What happened to me being scum?
i think this being a bastard game with a 3 man scumteam is not out of the question

but also, idk, i'm trying really hard to keep in mind bad play is not necessarily scum play, something with your unapologetic confidence also reminds me of jacksonVirgo in my last normal, who was town
You realize that if there were 3 scum, the game would be over, right?

Also I kinda feel I have been a bit too snarky engaging with you, I apologize for that.
this may also be a bastard game where the scumteam having majority doesn't endgame the town

Yeah idk, it's also my responsabilty for choosing to do an agressive approach on you, still struggle to find reasons to townread you though
I like aggressive lol, so we are all good.

But, I am almost positive that a bastard game has to advertised as such

Honestly, I am ready to just go Gyp->Nora and stay GG well played everyone
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Post Post #634 (isolation #43) » Fri Feb 23, 2024 2:19 pm

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In post 633, Aureal wrote: Drew are you actually taking the obvious joke seriously? :thinking:
I can't tell with Gyp!
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Post Post #641 (isolation #44) » Sat Feb 24, 2024 6:38 am

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In post 639, Nora. wrote:
In post 624, Doctor Drew wrote:
You realize that if there were 3 scum, the game would be over, right?

Also I kinda feel I have been a bit too snarky engaging with you, I apologize for that.
Kinda yikes post xD
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Post Post #642 (isolation #45) » Sat Feb 24, 2024 6:41 am

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In post 638, Nora. wrote:
In post 619, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 618, Nora. wrote:
In post 381, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 380, gob wrote: I've analyzed the wagon from day one.

Given the fact Will O' was killed, I think the three people off-wagon (Nora, Gypx, and Bingle) look really bad.

I will LOOK into their isos from here forward. Going on-wagon we have 4 people iirc as the pool, maybe its 3 cant remember. But I think its safe to hunt off-wagon here judging from the will o' night kill. (Mafia wouldn't kill on the main-wagon if 2 of the mafia are on it. Aka probably 1 maf on 1 maf off. And off-pool is smaller)

So im saying right now that everyone should focus on those 3 people for the lim today. I haven't read any of today's discussion btw. So if you were being sussed and you're not nora gypx or bingle, then you are off the hook 4 today my friend.
I agree about Nora and Gypx.......but ehh, not sure about BJingle

drew, could you explain your progression on Bingle leading up to this post?
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There was no progression on Bingle because I never thought they were anything but town up to that point.

And I was agreeing with Gobs take here, just not about Bingle

My post was less about you and Gyp, and more that it didn't make Bingle look bad.
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Post Post #654 (isolation #46) » Sat Feb 24, 2024 9:10 am

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In post 653, Aureal wrote: No, I'm saying you seem to be making intentionally bad attacks because
1) you don't have much in the way of a good response to give because you didn't actually have a thought process there to explain; and
2) if you were still able to come up with good-looking responses it would make us both look townier to interact with each other discussing them, but you're probably going down anyway and don't want me to look townier because I'm not your partner

If you were town here I'd think you'd want to try to explain things if I've misunderstood them and try to find me. You're just shutting me out without any explanation.
I think you just perfectly described the main issue I have had with Gyp since I repped in
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Post Post #660 (isolation #47) » Sat Feb 24, 2024 11:28 am

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In post 658, Nora. wrote:
In post 642, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 638, Nora. wrote:
In post 619, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 618, Nora. wrote:
In post 381, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 380, gob wrote: I've analyzed the wagon from day one.

Given the fact Will O' was killed, I think the three people off-wagon (Nora, Gypx, and Bingle) look really bad.

I will LOOK into their isos from here forward. Going on-wagon we have 4 people iirc as the pool, maybe its 3 cant remember. But I think its safe to hunt off-wagon here judging from the will o' night kill. (Mafia wouldn't kill on the main-wagon if 2 of the mafia are on it. Aka probably 1 maf on 1 maf off. And off-pool is smaller)

So im saying right now that everyone should focus on those 3 people for the lim today. I haven't read any of today's discussion btw. So if you were being sussed and you're not nora gypx or bingle, then you are off the hook 4 today my friend.
I agree about Nora and Gypx.......but ehh, not sure about BJingle

drew, could you explain your progression on Bingle leading up to this post?
Well I never really thought Bingle was scum at any point
you didn’t answer the question: up until this point you hadn’t spoken about me specifically either, so what made bingle different from myself looking at a post that was talking about wagons? Not having scumread on someone =/= townreading them, yes?
There was no progression on Bingle because I never thought they were anything but town up to that point.

And I was agreeing with Gobs take here, just not about Bingle

My post was less about you and Gyp, and more that it didn't make Bingle look bad.
uhm wait so were you simply not getting scummy pings from bingle or were you explicitly townreading them? your first post said the former and now it's the latter. because...there's a difference. the absence of scummy pings does not make someone townie enough that you ignore a wagonomics read on them while agreeing with the other two on the same principle. like, it should make then hover around null, leaving the read susceptible to change through other tells such as what gob brought up.

and fwiw im harping on this particular point because there's a chance scum already knew bingle was unpushable at that point be it because they either had a strong pr read there or had used a role cop on them, and so i went back to look for potential tmi d2
I didn't think Bingle was scum, hence why I said they were town at that point. And again as I said, I was more commenting on how I agreed with Gob that you and Gyp could very likely be scum off wagon.

Much like Gyp, in the off chance you are town.....you are overthinking my posting here
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Post Post #661 (isolation #48) » Sat Feb 24, 2024 11:29 am

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In post 657, Nora. wrote:
In post 641, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 639, Nora. wrote:
In post 624, Doctor Drew wrote:
You realize that if there were 3 scum, the game would be over, right?

Also I kinda feel I have been a bit too snarky engaging with you, I apologize for that.
Kinda yikes post xD
What exactly is so yikes about it?
like, the fact that you responded seriously to the 3 scum thing lol. kinda stiff
I didn't explicitly view it as a joke, confused me more than anything lol
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Post Post #663 (isolation #49) » Sat Feb 24, 2024 11:53 am

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In post 662, Gypyx wrote:
In post 659, Nora. wrote:
In post 646, Gypyx wrote: god i hate how Nora and Aureal can just afford to be openly scummy right now
can you answer my question from earlier >.>
just because you failed to pocket me doesn't mean the attempt was not here, the way you've been treating me has been pretty distinct from other slots imo
Can someone pass the popcorn so I can really enjoy this theater?
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Post Post #667 (isolation #50) » Sat Feb 24, 2024 12:12 pm

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In post 665, Gypyx wrote: no but like for real am i the ONLY ONE seeing what i'm seeing?
In post 666, Gypyx wrote: idk, even if i manage to get one i don't think i'm living 3p anyways
Well it seems like we have common ground in Nora, so why don't we lim them?
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Post Post #670 (isolation #51) » Sat Feb 24, 2024 12:39 pm

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In post 668, Gypyx wrote:
In post 667, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 665, Gypyx wrote: no but like for real am i the ONLY ONE seeing what i'm seeing?
In post 666, Gypyx wrote: idk, even if i manage to get one i don't think i'm living 3p anyways
Well it seems like we have common ground in Nora, so why don't we lim them?
Well yeah obviously but as said in the quoted stuff my biggest concern is Aureal right now

also, like, that's betting you have a green PM, which is a bet that's worrying to take still
It doesn't matter which scum we lim first, why not Nora for today?
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Post Post #672 (isolation #52) » Sat Feb 24, 2024 12:48 pm

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In post 671, Gypyx wrote:
In post 670, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 668, Gypyx wrote:
In post 667, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 665, Gypyx wrote: no but like for real am i the ONLY ONE seeing what i'm seeing?
In post 666, Gypyx wrote: idk, even if i manage to get one i don't think i'm living 3p anyways
Well it seems like we have common ground in Nora, so why don't we lim them?
Well yeah obviously but as said in the quoted stuff my biggest concern is Aureal right now

also, like, that's betting you have a green PM, which is a bet that's worrying to take still
It doesn't matter which scum we lim first, why not Nora for today?
I don't really care about Nora, i'm telling you that my problem is Aureal rn
You are saying you think I am town, so that leaves Aureal and Nora as your scum team.

Ok sure, you have many more issues with Aureal than Nora.

But if another player(hi) also agrees with your scum read on Nora, but not Aureal...... doesn't it make the most sense to lim the lesser scum read that the other player you think is town(hello again) also thinks is scum?
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Post Post #675 (isolation #53) » Sat Feb 24, 2024 1:29 pm

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In post 673, Gypyx wrote: yeah but like, in a sense getting that lim is allowing the gamestate to process as is, and it's always gonna be easier proving she's scum with her partner alive and speaking

like, i've also got the ability to plan for future events, i can tell that going with a Nora lim right now probably means me tommorow, i'm trying to let myself talk to townspew and stuff but you don't seem convinced

do you understeand where i'm getting at ?
All I see is someone who doesn't want to lim someone they consider a scum read.

Do you understand what I am getting at?
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Post Post #676 (isolation #54) » Sat Feb 24, 2024 1:29 pm

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Top text lol
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Post Post #682 (isolation #55) » Sat Feb 24, 2024 1:53 pm

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In post 678, Gypyx wrote: like, this the most uncurious "Well you think she's scum and yet you're not dropping all logic in order to kill her lol"
I just don't get that if you scum read someone in lylo, why you refuse to vote them?
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Post Post #687 (isolation #56) » Sun Feb 25, 2024 10:52 am

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In post 684, Nora. wrote: well im not mafia. x_x We lose the moment a townie votes me

Gypyx, please think your vote through. Why do you townread drew? Help me understand that read because I’m certainly not there yet. From where I’m standing it’s kind of blatant that he’s trying to coerce a townie into voting another townie
How is it coercion if I am trying to get someone to vote their scum read?

But we are going a bit in circles here now, so this is how I see Nora's, Gyps, and my reads for the scum team.

Nora: Aureal and Drew
Gyp: Aureal and Nora
Drew: Gyp and Nora

Would like for Aureal to clarify her scum team read, same for Gob
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Post Post #698 (isolation #57) » Sun Feb 25, 2024 1:51 pm

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In post 692, Aureal wrote:
In post 687, Doctor Drew wrote: Would like for Aureal to clarify her scum team read, same for Gob
Obviously it's gob and gob, duh. :igmeou:
Ah the ol double gob, as fun as that would be......who ya thinking?
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Post Post #700 (isolation #58) » Sun Feb 25, 2024 3:32 pm

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In post 699, gob wrote:
In post 698, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 692, Aureal wrote:
In post 687, Doctor Drew wrote: Would like for Aureal to clarify her scum team read, same for Gob
Obviously it's gob and gob, duh. :igmeou:
Ah the ol double gob, as fun as that would be......who ya thinking?
its her + gypyx
It's Gyp and Nora
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Post Post #702 (isolation #59) » Sun Feb 25, 2024 3:44 pm

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In post 701, gob wrote:
In post 700, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 699, gob wrote:
In post 698, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 692, Aureal wrote:
In post 687, Doctor Drew wrote: Would like for Aureal to clarify her scum team read, same for Gob
Obviously it's gob and gob, duh. :igmeou:
Ah the ol double gob, as fun as that would be......who ya thinking?
its her + gypyx
It's Gyp and Nora
Either way seems we go gypz
Agree with that

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Post Post #707 (isolation #60) » Sun Feb 25, 2024 4:43 pm

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In post 704, Aureal wrote: Nah
Why not?
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Post Post #708 (isolation #61) » Sun Feb 25, 2024 4:44 pm

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In post 704, Aureal wrote: Nah
Since you never seriously answered me, do you think it is me and Nora?
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Post Post #740 (isolation #62) » Mon Feb 26, 2024 2:34 pm

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In post 733, Gypyx wrote: maybe if some people could start by step 1 and admit they're just scumreading me cause they just think my personality is icky that would be a good start
Well I don't think your personality is icky

You really think that is why I think you are scum?
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Post Post #742 (isolation #63) » Mon Feb 26, 2024 3:01 pm

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In post 741, gob wrote: VOTE: Doctor Drew

I think the team is Doctor Drew and Aureal.

That is my final answer.
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You are better than this Gob

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Post Post #743 (isolation #64) » Mon Feb 26, 2024 3:16 pm

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If I am wrong on Gyp, the game is ending either way

YOLO
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Post Post #744 (isolation #65) » Mon Feb 26, 2024 3:17 pm

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Aureal is online, but not saying anything.

Nora isn't though, kinda worrisome
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Post Post #746 (isolation #66) » Mon Feb 26, 2024 3:22 pm

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In post 745, Aureal wrote: Not really much to say other than I feel like gob letting us resolve this would increase the overall chances of victory

But then I realized maybe he knows that and is messing around still

idfk what goes through his head, I just expect him to mess around as long as possible
You do see that he literally just voted me, right?
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Post Post #747 (isolation #67) » Mon Feb 26, 2024 3:23 pm

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In post 746, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 745, Aureal wrote: Not really much to say other than I feel like gob letting us resolve this would increase the overall chances of victory

But then I realized maybe he knows that and is messing around still

idfk what goes through his head, I just expect him to mess around as long as possible
You do see that he literally just voted me, right?
Oh nvm lol

Misread what you said

Is what it is at this point, vote Gyp with me though......if we lose that way, I will take the responsibility for it
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Post Post #749 (isolation #68) » Mon Feb 26, 2024 3:39 pm

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In post 748, Aureal wrote: It's tempting to just abdicate responsibility, sure. You guys already have that covered though, I don't need to do anything here. If you're town you need to appeal to gob to change his vote, I'm irrelevant.
Oh wait, you actually are scum?
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Post Post #750 (isolation #69) » Mon Feb 26, 2024 3:41 pm

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Gyp and Aureal, didn't have that correct

Makes sense I guess, they really stayed away from each other.

Was always Gyp vs me or Nora, or Nora vs me, or Nora vs Aureal
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Post Post #751 (isolation #70) » Mon Feb 26, 2024 3:42 pm

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In post 741, gob wrote: VOTE: Doctor Drew

I think the team is Doctor Drew and Aureal.

That is my final answer.
Unvote me, you are wrong here.......I will switch to Aureal
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Post Post #753 (isolation #71) » Mon Feb 26, 2024 4:19 pm

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In post 752, Aureal wrote: lol
Lol, just playing with your food now?
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Post Post #755 (isolation #72) » Mon Feb 26, 2024 5:13 pm

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In post 754, Aureal wrote: Meh, this time I'm not gonna do the thing where you try to get me worked up in conviction and look scummy so a townie votes me instead. It seems pretty clear what you're trying to do here, with a literal IC voting you either the game is over when Gypyx and Nora get together to hammer you or you're obvscum. If you're town you know you need to get gob back on your side. Instead you appealed to me when I literally can't do anything here to avert an impending loss if gob is voting wrong, but if he's not wrong I could still place a wrong vote that gives you the chance to end the game before it becomes apparent that he's not wrong. I have zero reason to do anything other than watch for a hammer.
You still haven't given who you thought the scum team is

And you still haven't mentioned why you don't want to vote Gyp

The game is over right now because I am town, so there is no reason for me not to push Gyp at this point, like I am.......worst case she is town as well.......and oh look, still game over.

And yes of course I want Gob on my side, again I am town and he is wrong, his vote right now is basically gg well played scum.

I think I am wrong on saying Nora is Gyp's buddy, and feel it is you now.

And yes I obviously want you to vote Gyp because, I may sound like a broken record, but if you vote Gyp that tells me you aren't scum and then it IS just Gyp and Nora.......and then we just need to convince Gob how wrong he is(but at that point it should be obvious)

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Post Post #756 (isolation #73) » Mon Feb 26, 2024 5:16 pm

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I literally was trying to get Gyp to vote Nora since I thought their interactions were all theater, would I push my buddy like that?

Now I want you to vote Gyp, so where am I scum here??
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Post Post #796 (isolation #74) » Tue Feb 27, 2024 2:48 pm

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In post 794, Gypyx wrote: anyways my main takeaway is that i really need to get better at interacting with partners
See? Told you this was nowhere near my scum game.....lol

GG to you and Nora though

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