Mini Normal 2329: complex. [game over!]

[Aristeia]

ITT Klick predictably continues to run cover for Naerys.

do you think they can be S/S?

like look at this interaction:

I thought Naerys was towny earlier but the read is stale
I'm not ready to judge there atm but I'm not flat ruling her out

If it were strictly Hu Tao vs Naerys today then I'd be voting for Naerys

VOTE: Naerys
i am out of here, bye

The thing is Hu Tao you're expressing a massive amount of confidence in the Naerys scumread
but you also say you scumread NotAScum more than her and I think your NotAScum scumread is kinda poor
It gives me low confidence in your supposedly strong Naerys scumread

PEdit: stop

I very much doubt that's a scripted S/S interaction

[KayJayQueue]

People must not be paying attention because my full role is not just IC.

I have no idea what this means. Am I missing something right in front of my face?

[Klick]

ITT Klick predictably continues to run cover for Naerys.

I know it's uncomfortable territory for you not being paranoid of everyone in the game

And you’re apparently not.

I wonder why that is.

If you actually 'wondered' why that is you'd go have a gander at any of my previous games and realise that this is my means of operation for basically every game I've played in the last two years

Instead, you're more interested in expressing suspicion at everyone so that when whatever random answer shows itself, you can show that you were right all along and weren't fooled.

Mafia is a game of trust. Finding scum is important, finding town is more effective.

[Political Clout]

town is
Me
Rn
not a scum
titus
hu tao
naerys
dann - leaning town
aristea - leaning town

Im unsure of Dave

i'm leaning scum on
kjq
klick
gera
psyche

[Klick]

Why's Titus town

[Political Clout]

Why's Titus town

aristea convinced me let me find the quote.

[KayJayQueue]

town is
Me
Rn
not a scum
titus
hu tao
naerys
dann - leaning town
aristea - leaning town

Im unsure of Dave

i'm leaning scum on
kjq
klick
gera
psyche

Is the reason you were pushing back on me so much to give you my reasoning for believing klick is town because you were scum-reading them? That makes a lot more sense than just wanting info for the sake of it when I wasn’t really hiding much.

[Political Clout]

I'm concerned about Wake, but that could be real life.

Wake is an alt slip of Random Nurse who is the IC

if you're town you might want to take the time to get the basic facts of the game right before going off on someone for "not working with you"

do you think town or scum make that kind of post?

probly town

This was after their spat? idk what to call it. Their heated interaction? whatever. aristea took a step back considered it measuredly and came to a fairly decent conclusion imo. I liked the whole progression of it.

[Political Clout]

town is
Me
Rn
not a scum
titus
hu tao
naerys
dann - leaning town
aristea - leaning town

Im unsure of Dave

i'm leaning scum on
kjq
klick
gera
psyche

Is the reason you were pushing back on me so much to give you my reasoning for believing klick is town because you were scum-reading them? That makes a lot more sense than just wanting info for the sake of it when I wasn’t really hiding much.

it's not like it was a secret.

[Dannflor]

UNVOTE:

[davesaz]

I guess I should be happy with "unsure" given the site average is just calling me scum no matter what I say.

I don't like how RN played the extra info, or how Ari poked at the possibility. If you have such a role, you make yourself such a pita that scum feels like they have no choice but to kill you first.

[Psyche]

VOTE: naerys

think she has been actually trying to survive since her self-vote

[davesaz]

Who are y'all unvoting from? I've been way busier than usual at work and just skimmed the last 5 or so pages on about 3 minutes of break. The vote counter is only on my home computer.

[Klick]

Right, I've just skimmed through a few Naerys ISOs and gotten a general feel for how she acts as both alignments

Frankly I think the difference between her town and scum game is night and day
Specifically, her heart and soul seem to be in the game significantly more when she's town
I don't think she's the type of scum player who either could nor would choose to play out a D1 like how this one has gone

[KayJayQueue]

it's not like it was a secret.

Well, I guess it just didn’t register to me then. Because last I remember you were pretty adamant on Aristeia and then the next big thing was the NAS joke issue so I guess I didn’t realize klick was a problem for you. Speaking of, why is Ari suddenly town for you? Just her interaction with Titus earlier?

[Political Clout]

it's not like it was a secret.

Well, I guess it just didn’t register to me then. Because last I remember you were pretty adamant on Aristeia and then the next big thing was the NAS joke issue so I guess I didn’t realize klick was a problem for you. Speaking of, why is Ari suddenly town for you? Just her interaction with Titus earlier?

that's all it takes. like a bolt from the heavens really.

[davesaz]

Right, I've just skimmed through a few Naerys ISOs and gotten a general feel for how she acts as both alignments

Frankly I think the difference between her town and scum game is night and day
Specifically, her heart and soul seem to be in the game significantly more when she's town
I don't think she's the type of scum player who either could nor would choose to play out a D1 like how this one has gone

You're saying that self voting, commenting on only one player, and telling everyone else to take a hike is heart and soul level play?

[KayJayQueue]

it's not like it was a secret.

Well, I guess it just didn’t register to me then. Because last I remember you were pretty adamant on Aristeia and then the next big thing was the NAS joke issue so I guess I didn’t realize klick was a problem for you. Speaking of, why is Ari suddenly town for you? Just her interaction with Titus earlier?

that's all it takes. like a bolt from the heavens really.

That’s fine, just wanted confirmation that was what happened.

[Political Clout]

it's not like it was a secret.

Well, I guess it just didn’t register to me then. Because last I remember you were pretty adamant on Aristeia and then the next big thing was the NAS joke issue so I guess I didn’t realize klick was a problem for you. Speaking of, why is Ari suddenly town for you? Just her interaction with Titus earlier?

that's all it takes. like a bolt from the heavens really.

That’s fine, just wanted confirmation that was what happened.

what do you think of that interaction?

[Hu Tao]

She's playing this well enough that people are not scumreading her which is what she is doing on purpose

stop lying

I feel like you'd be acting differently as town here. It's not like this game is too hard to keep up with

[Psyche]

why does naerys even choose to stick around as town for so long after her self vote? at best it stretches credibility. rather than giving up on the game, i think she's been invested this whole time and believing that lurking provides a low effort way to sidestep suspicion

[Klick]

Right, I've just skimmed through a few Naerys ISOs and gotten a general feel for how she acts as both alignments

Frankly I think the difference between her town and scum game is night and day
Specifically, her heart and soul seem to be in the game significantly more when she's town
I don't think she's the type of scum player who either could nor would choose to play out a D1 like how this one has gone

You're saying that self voting, commenting on only one player, and telling everyone else to take a hike is heart and soul level play?

Yes
Compared to when she's scum and is mostly trying to not draw attention or otherwise play reasonably within expected bounds of her win condition
She seems to care more about being pleasant when scum, and lets things get to her when she's town

[Hu Tao]

I think one of the reasons the tilt would make sense is if naerys just wanted to distance off HT with the vote, then when HT got run up couldnt figure out a way to exit and they had some kind of argument in the scum PT and hu tao yelled at her to get off and she decided to die rather than play on the same team as HT

This feels like fan fiction lol

Kay you're great

[Psyche]

naeyrs's activity patterns suggest that she's at least skimmed all 52 pages of this game

[Klick]

why does naerys even choose to stick around as town for so long after her self vote? at best it stretches credibility. rather than giving up on the game, i think she's been invested this whole time and believing that lurking provides a low effort way to sidestep suspicion

She's butthurt that Hu Tao isn't dying and she's getting suspected. It's explained more by her feeling ignored and like she's right and everyone else is wrong, as opposed to people leaning more towards accurately finding her as scum.