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[Random Nurse]

folks on speedwagon:gypyx,thomith,titus,geraintm,wisp
mhm

Do you think the speed wagon is scummy?

I think speed wagons in general are Scummy, are taken advantage if by Scum, and can be devastating if successful Day 1.

Not a fan.

[Random Nurse]

Naerys, are you Scum this game?

I'll notice if you start buckling under the pressure again.

[Random Nurse]

no, i am town

We'll see, fren, we'll see.

[Random Nurse]

RN is sus too right now. Why so much sus.

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So, why do you say that?

[Random Nurse]

RN is sus too right now. Why so much sus.

I don’t sus him at all at the moment, what am I missing?

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...and why don't you suss me at all at the moment?

[Random Nurse]

RN is sus too right now. Why so much sus.

I don’t sus him at all at the moment, what am I missing?

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...and why don't you suss me at all at the moment?

My feeling of you right now is based on our previous games together as well as one I watched as it was playing out. The things you are doing feel like how I’ve seen you as town previously. So far nothing feels off or too far removed from your other town games. (that I’ve personally experienced or watched) We’ll see if that changes as time goes on.

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Do be aware that despite me saying I'm terrible as Mafia I do have rare moments of being very good at it if I'm feeling it.

Point is, don't get too trusting.

[Random Nurse]

Could it be that Hu Tao is yet again Scum?

[Random Nurse]

I'm starting to think Hu is trying to mock the fact that I primarily play this game based on gut feelings.

[Random Nurse]

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Fine.

[Random Nurse]

You just feel different than usual. And so does Dave. But I think Dave is more different

Oh, please do tell me what feels different to you, Hu

Humor me.

[Random Nurse]

anyways so far Thomith nas and random nurse are pretty strongly town i feel

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What exactly have I done to warrant this strong feeling of yours?

[Random Nurse]

Hey all. Just got prodded. I'm going to try to post sometime thus evening (going to bed now). IRL issue tying me up recently.

[Random Nurse]

OK, so I accidentally lied. Had two back-to-back admissions right when I got here, and still working on orders. I will try to look over the game soon, once I can get my head above water.

[Random Nurse]

Questions from Gypyx and geraintm make sense.
I do not rule out possibility that Wisp is scum who tries to compromise three town players (Kay - Oblivion - Naerys).
But what worries me most of all here is that Naerys is refusing to respond to questions about her thinking and its reasons.

I will say in a recent completed game as Town Naerys refused to answer my questions so we yeeted her. She's done this as Town.

[Random Nurse]

why do you suspect dave

Meta. He seems off this game.

As is that's not that convincing.

Could you be a bit more specific please?

[Random Nurse]

Why the sudden 3-vote shift for NAS?

[Random Nurse]

Why the sudden 3-vote shift for NAS?

People wanted to vote NAS but didn't think anyone else was on board, when it was brought up and became clear there were people that were on board, we voted.

OK but WHY did you vote?

Just because others did?

VOTE: Thomith

[Random Nurse]

To me it looks like NAS is a deliberate mis-lim wagon potentiated by Scum.

However we're also running out of time.

NAS is not the optimal lim in my opinion right now but if it means achieving a lim I will yeet him.

[Random Nurse]

2 days remaining. I feel a deadline scramble coming up.

I'm a Vanilla Townie.

any suggestions where the wagon should go instead?

Where do

you

think it should go?

[Random Nurse]

I don't think I like that Willow claimed VT when there was barely any pressure there. If Willow does an "oopsie, I'm actually not" late-game I'll be using their bones for decoration.

Speaking of which, did you claim already NAS?

[Random Nurse]

did you claim already NAS?

Nope.

Am I correct in assuming you'll hold off until L-1?

[Random Nurse]

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Willow why DID you claim already?

[Random Nurse]

To me it looks like NAS is a deliberate mis-lim wagon potentiated by Scum.

However we're also running out of time.

NAS is not the optimal lim in my opinion right now but if it means achieving a lim I will yeet him.

Why do you think this?

In my opinion, when it comes to general gameplay, when there's a sudden shift of like 3+ votes onto someone else with little resistance it makes me think there's Scumfuckery afoot.

[Random Nurse]

To me it looks like NAS is a deliberate mis-lim wagon potentiated by Scum.

However we're also running out of time.

NAS is not the optimal lim in my opinion right now but if it means achieving a lim I will yeet him.

Why do you think this?

In my opinion, when it comes to general gameplay, when there's a sudden shift of like 3+ votes onto someone else with little resistance it makes me think there's Scumfuckery afoot.

But the wagon stalled after 4 votes with people actively resisting the wagon?

Who do you think we should vote for instead, believing that NAS is a mislim?

Well, it's also night still.

Who's actively resisting?

As for who to launch I don't know because I haven't been around recently due to getting mangled by IRL issues.

[Random Nurse]

To me it looks like NAS is a deliberate mis-lim wagon potentiated by Scum.

However we're also running out of time.

NAS is not the optimal lim in my opinion right now but if it means achieving a lim I will yeet him.

Why do you think this?

In my opinion, when it comes to general gameplay, when there's a sudden shift of like 3+ votes onto someone else with little resistance it makes me think there's Scumfuckery afoot.

But the wagon stalled after 4 votes with people actively resisting the wagon?

Who do you think we should vote for instead, believing that NAS is a mislim?

Well, it's also night still.

Who's actively resisting?

As for who to launch I don't know because I haven't been around recently due to getting mangled by IRL issues.

You and Hu Tao are actively resisting.
Multiple people (Gypyx/Snow/Willow/Oblivion) Have posted since and also did not join the wagon, which while it isn't active resistance, I feel as if the wagon was "facing little resistance as it is a mislim", then one of those people likely jump on the wagon, at least imo.

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Now why would you think trying to manipulate my words like this would help you?

I'm not actively resisting I'm saying a sudden shift of 3 votes to NAS seems suspicious to me, and me pointing that out doesn't mean I'm actively resisting. In fact if I was actively resisting you WOULD KNOW IT. If you're Town be aware of what you are saying to me, especially if you're Scum because I detect WAY MORE than I let on.

Also, indifference is not resistance of any kind.

[Random Nurse]

With a little over a day left would it be better to just launch the claimed VT Willow?

[Random Nurse]

To me it looks like NAS is a deliberate mis-lim wagon potentiated by Scum.

However we're also running out of time.

NAS is not the optimal lim in my opinion right now but if it means achieving a lim I will yeet him.

To be fair, I misread the bolded (or rather, saw the first part when skim reading and moved on, not reading the part of you saying you will compromise on it).
I don't see indifference from the four I mentioned as "not resistance", as they are scumreading other people, which in my opinion, is still (more passive) resistance of the NAS wagon.

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If you're Scum be extremely careful how you approach next time.

[Random Nurse]

With a little over a day left would it be better to just launch the claimed VT Willow?

Maybe. I'm considering it at least.

...why exactly are you voting NAS over Willow currently?

[Random Nurse]

Nobody interested in yeeting Titus? Shame

Why Titus currently?

[Random Nurse]

To me it looks like NAS is a deliberate mis-lim wagon potentiated by Scum.

However we're also running out of time.

NAS is not the optimal lim in my opinion right now but if it means achieving a lim I will yeet him.

To be fair, I misread the bolded (or rather, saw the first part when skim reading and moved on, not reading the part of you saying you will compromise on it).
I don't see indifference from the four I mentioned as "not resistance", as they are scumreading other people, which in my opinion, is still (more passive) resistance of the NAS wagon.

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If you're Scum be extremely careful how you approach next time.

I'm not. I just misread what you said before/misremembered it.

...yeah.

[Random Nurse]

With a little over a day left would it be better to just launch the claimed VT Willow?

Maybe. I'm considering it at least.

...why exactly are you voting NAS over Willow currently?

I am voting for NAS because I believe they are more likely to be scum over Willow, especially recently because I feel like claiming VT randomly does not help scum!willow at all.

I would swap to willow purely to stop a potential PR having to out themselves if the day shifts a different way - if willow flips VT, I feel we get information for Day 2, without scum getting much information on potential PR's, I'm just not convinced that Willow flips scum any more.

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So you're voting NAS not because of what NAS did but because of what Willow did? Did NAS do anything Scummy to be worthy of a launch?

If there was a PR claim wouldn't you shift to NAS instead of Willow based on what you said earlier? What makes that make you choose Willow over NAS? Did you mean ti say if NAS PR-claimed you'd choose Willow instead?

[Random Nurse]

The above is where I explain why I voted NAS, and why my vote is currently staying there.

If it doesn't appear that people are willing to eliminate NAS, I would swap to Willow, rather than somebody else to make sure we got a flip today, to avoid us potentially eliminating a potential PR, or forcing a PR to out themselves.

What exactly is your move if NAS claims something other than VT if they reach L-1?

[Random Nurse]

Personally I don't like Willow's claim because it was so early—no pressure. Anyone know if Willow has experience playing?

[Random Nurse]

We are running out of time.

VOTE: NAS

[Random Nurse]

This Scumteam may be incompetent.

[Random Nurse]

OK.

VOTE: Dave

[Random Nurse]

This Scumteam may be incompetent.

Virgo clearly is low info kill
this comment doesnt sit well with me
VOTE: Nurse

Really?

I was poking fun at them for hitting a VT.

[Random Nurse]

Sounds like she got personally offended by your comment.

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Hm.

Not sure yet.

[Random Nurse]

Although I was kind of taunting Scum I doubt a Scum Naerys would take the bait that easily.

[Random Nurse]

A little voice whispers in the back of my head, Willow.

It tells me you may be trying to manipulate me into going after Naerys.

I spoke with the voice and it told me I should consider tearing into you within 12 hours. Haven't made up my mind yet.

[Random Nurse]

Convince me.

Scum Naerys will reveal herself in time because she crumbles easily to pressure.

[Random Nurse]

Convince me.

Scum Naerys will reveal herself in time because she crumbles easily to pressure.

I feel like Naerys already spewed herself as town with how she reacted to pressure in Day 1?

How so?

[Random Nurse]

I deliberately applied pressure to her because i was struggling to read her, but with how she responded to that pressure I am leaving towards her being town.

Last time I played with her when we were both Town I was questioning her and she shut down, tuetled uo, refused to answer any questions, and then got yeeted.

[Random Nurse]

*turtled up.

[Random Nurse]

Let's give us something to talk about.

There is a neighbourhood in this game that consists of:
Myself (Thomith)
Gypyx
Snow
Titus
Dave

So, hello, we have a big announcement to kind of try to shake things up (seems like everyone is struggling to do things)

we have a 5 players neighborhood consisting of Gypyx / Thomith / Snow / Davesaz / Titus

my initial flashwagon on snow came from him making a pretty lackluster entry in the hood and trying to create pressure on that

Hm.

So you both mentioned this neighborhood at basically the same time.

Uncanny.

[Random Nurse]

it's almost as if we had a PT to coordiante revealing the hood

Couldn't just one person reveal it?

Obviously if they were lying someone else would step in.

Oh, and pardon me for noting my observation.

[Random Nurse]

It's noteworthy btw that if I remember things right RN defended Naerys at least twice, but she is voting him. Is this a real or an artificial conflict?

I didn't defend her I pointed out my experiences with her in a past game when we were both Town.

[Random Nurse]

I'm just going to say right now I hate "towncores/townblocks" in general. Too easy to shield experienced Scum.

[Random Nurse]

I have a gut feeling there's one Scum among Snow/Thomith. Probably more likely among Thomith/Gypyx.

[Random Nurse]

I have a gut feeling there's one Scum among Snow/Thomith. Probably more likely among Thomith/Gypyx.

Elaborate on why you think one of us is pocketed?

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...where did I say that?

[Random Nurse]

apart from obvtown oblivion ranger has as scum pepople scum!her would need to push back on and people who it doesn't hurt to have a scumread on

You seem to be treating me as if I have more information than what I have read.

You're quite aware of what I've disclosed knowledge of having read. On which pages would there be the knowledge I'd need to push back on slots? Certainly not in anything I've read.

the scum PT ? I don't distrust your medical issue stuff, but i have to say you absolutely had plenty of time to go give it a look, and the need to give an explaination to it before even starting your catchup seems to come from a place of unwarranted defensiveness?

As someone who's frequently AFK due to work and IRL chaos I can sympathize with Ranger being sick and needing time. Obviously Ranger could still be Scum. Are we that close to deadline that Ranger can't be given some breathing room to feel better after this nausea event?

[Random Nurse]

Please place me on LA until Thursday morning. Dealing with IRL issues again.

[Random Nurse]

VOTE: Naerys
can u just vote me out i dont wanna read Rangers posts anymore

Can you just vote ranger

I suspect there's a very specific reason why you want us to vote Ranger?

If Ranger turns out to be Town I'll be coming for you.

VOTE: Ranger

[Random Nurse]

Fuck.

I'm already voting them.

(That's how fucked this IRL week has been.)

[Random Nurse]

I am once again asking you to vote inside the hood

What's the main reason for it? The assumption that there must be at least one Scum in the Hood? Chance are high there's probably 1 in there, but in the past as a mod I made an all-Town NH once. There's 5 in there right? If a Neighbor gets plugged and they're Town do we just keep shooting the fish in that barrel until Scum gets hit?

[Random Nurse]

I am once again asking you to vote inside the hood

What's the main reason for it? The assumption that there must be at least one Scum in the Hood? Chance are high there's probably 1 in there, but in the past as a mod I made an all-Town NH once. There's 5 in there right? If a Neighbor gets plugged and they're Town do we just keep shooting the fish in that barrel until Scum gets hit?

It is not an assumption but rather a certainety when considering hood dynamics and stuff

If we hit inside the neighborhood who are your current targets in order from too to bottom?

To be frank I'm apprehensive about killing in the NH but typically there's always at least one in there. It could be valuable if we see other player reactions.

[Random Nurse]

How much of a strategem would it be if Scum was trying to get Town to kill inside the NH, even if one if their own was in there? How many Townpoints would they be cashing in on I wonder...? Let's not forget this possibility.

[Random Nurse]

...Gypyx, your list?

Also, what conversations are going on in there?

[Random Nurse]

Most likely Town
Gypyx
Titus
Ranger
Snow
Must Likely Scum

In my opinion.

If Snow flips Scum, Ranger and Titus swap places for me I think.

Just to clarify it's those 4 and you in the NH?

[Random Nurse]

...Gypyx, your list?

Also, what conversations are going on in there?

That's my mistake, misread and thought you were asking generally, not specifically to Gypyx

I was. At least to all the neighbors.

[Random Nurse]

Most likely Town
Gypyx
Titus
Ranger
Snow
Must Likely Scum

In my opinion.

If Snow flips Scum, Ranger and Titus swap places for me I think.

Just to clarify it's those 4 and you in the NH?

Yes

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So what do you think if this? Shooting in a Neighborhood, yeah? Kind if exciting.

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Tell me more about what you think of this.

[Random Nurse]

Hm.

*pulls up chair*

[Random Nurse]

*looks at watch*

*wondering where everyone went*

*thinking what Gypyx's and/or Thomith's teammates are telling them to say*

[Random Nurse]

...Gypyx, your list?

Also, what conversations are going on in there?

sorry the no sponsor thing came back

Gypyx
Thomith
/////
Titus
Ranger
Snow

No sponsor?

Oh hey, you rated yourself and Thomith at the top? Cool. Awesome. Hey, why is that again?

[Random Nurse]

as for the conversation it's basically died off after the reveal since Me / Thom were the biggest conversation drivers and there's kind of a lack of trust going on lol

Yeah I van understand a lack of trust in Mafia.

But there doesn't seem to be a lack of trust between you and Thomith.

I just find that interesting.

Tell me why that is.

[Random Nurse]

I'd really like to see Titus, Snow, and Ranger weigh in on this with their lists as well.

[Random Nurse]

*looks at watch*

*wondering where everyone went*

*thinking what Gypyx's and/or Thomith's teammates are telling them to say*

Yes obviously we are absolutely coordinating every minute thing that's being said in our scum PT, down to the single post

It's certainly possible.

This isn't my first Mafia game.

[Random Nurse]

Most likely Town
Gypyx
Titus
Ranger
Snow
Must Likely Scum

In my opinion.

If Snow flips Scum, Ranger and Titus swap places for me I think.

Just to clarify it's those 4 and you in the NH?

Yes

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So what do you think if this? Shooting in a Neighborhood, yeah? Kind if exciting.

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Tell me more about what you think of this.

I'm genuinely not sure what your question is here?

Tell me more about your thoughts on shooting within the Neighborhood.

[Random Nurse]

Yes but it's highly, HIGHLY, HIIIIIIIIIGHLY unrealistic of you to base your expectations around that

Is that my expectation?

...or are you just reacting a tad bit defensively?

[Random Nurse]

Most likely Town
Gypyx
Titus
Ranger
Snow
Must Likely Scum

In my opinion.

If Snow flips Scum, Ranger and Titus swap places for me I think.

Just to clarify it's those 4 and you in the NH?

Yes

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So what do you think if this? Shooting in a Neighborhood, yeah? Kind if exciting.

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Tell me more about what you think of this.

I'm genuinely not sure what your question is here?

Tell me more about your thoughts on shooting within the Neighborhood.

I think that if there is scum in the hood, which I genuinely believe there is, that shooting within the hood is a good idea.

I think finding out Snows alignment is a good idea more specifically, because if there are multiple scum in the hood, they are likely taking different stances so they don't look obviously aligned, so if Snow does flip scum, then this helps us sort Titus/Ranger.

1. What's the main reason you won't launch Gypyx?

2. Assuming you won't launch Gypyx, and factoring in Ranger's claim, who are you wanting to launch between Titus and Snow and why?

[Random Nurse]

Yes but it's highly, HIGHLY, HIIIIIIIIIGHLY unrealistic of you to base your expectations around that

Is that my expectation?

...or are you just reacting a tad bit defensively?

What i'm saying is that maybe it's possible but if you don't have anything that points to that then holy shit you're making the most unlikely possibilities first

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Interesting.

So, why exactly are you not voting Thomith?

Is he completely off the table for you today?

[Random Nurse]

Yes but it's highly, HIGHLY, HIIIIIIIIIGHLY unrealistic of you to base your expectations around that

Is that my expectation?

...or are you just reacting a tad bit defensively?

Alternatively, are you not acting opportunistically, deliberately saying things to goad us so you can jump on us reacting to that? (To clarify, I don't actually think this, but I want to point out how easy it is to twist this type of situation).

I almost made a post to point out the absurdity of you saying we left because we were talking in a scum PT, but didn't, knowing this would be your next line of argument, which quite frankly I think is a waste of time since I don't think any of this is AI.

Don't misunderstand my ways of Scumhunting.

[Random Nurse]

Yes but it's highly, HIGHLY, HIIIIIIIIIGHLY unrealistic of you to base your expectations around that

Is that my expectation?

...or are you just reacting a tad bit defensively?

What i'm saying is that maybe it's possible but if you don't have anything that points to that then holy shit you're making the most unlikely possibilities first

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Interesting.

So, why exactly are you not voting Thomith?

Is he completely off the table for you today?

it would take some pretty scummy behaviour from thom to change that, if you think you've seen that then by all means explain yourself

Are you trying to turn my line of questioning back against me, Gypyx? Looks like it to me.

Here, let me put a pin in this.

[Random Nurse]

Yes but it's highly, HIGHLY, HIIIIIIIIIGHLY unrealistic of you to base your expectations around that

Is that my expectation?

...or are you just reacting a tad bit defensively?

Alternatively, are you not acting opportunistically, deliberately saying things to goad us so you can jump on us reacting to that? (To clarify, I don't actually think this, but I want to point out how easy it is to twist this type of situation).

I almost made a post to point out the absurdity of you saying we left because we were talking in a scum PT, but didn't, knowing this would be your next line of argument, which quite frankly I think is a waste of time since I don't think any of this is AI.

If you're Scum you need to be very careful how you respond to my questions. I have nothing to hide and nothing to preserve, so if you spill blood on the water I'll be on you just like that.

If it isn't painfully obvious I'm Scumhunting both of you at the same time, looking for answers and discrepancies, as well as disproportionate reactions. The last thing you want to do is start turtling up and getting defensive, because that's the greenlight for me to start getting into it.

[Random Nurse]

I think you're pretty blatantly town

what i'm asking is what exactly warrants this level of extended scrutiny

My sheer boredom and desire to actually get into this game. It's been a b*tch trying to find time to play due to all the IRL shit going on. Also intense Mafia is most fun Mafia, so I like getting into it.

[Random Nurse]

If you're trying to placate me by telling me what I already know I will get vicious.

[Random Nurse]

Thom nurse as obvtown as it gets, pls trust me on that one

Also when you turn from this in the future I'll be waiting for you.

[Random Nurse]

*sharpens claws*

[Random Nurse]

Thoughts on geraintm at the moment?

*sips tea*

[Random Nurse]

gera is also town, not obvtown but still i'd be surprised if he flips scum

OK why?

That second to last post of his irked my gut.

[Random Nurse]

It feels like a.lot of bad faith voting going on at the moment.

I just can't work out who

This has an air of "don't look at me I'm Towning," and it irks my gut.

[Random Nurse]

Thoughts on geraintm at the moment?

*sips tea*

I remember thinking Gera was town but I don't really remember why I thought that if I'm being Completely honest, so I should probably reread him.

Yeah you should probably refresh your thoughts on that one.

[Random Nurse]

Hey, Gypyx, why do you think Jackson was killed?

[Random Nurse]

It feels like a.lot of bad faith voting going on at the moment.

I just can't work out who

This has an air of "don't look at me I'm Towning," and it irks my gut.

Yeah I don't like that post either.
I'll skim through the ISO quickly now, see if this is a repeated thing.

Yeah you go do that.

[Random Nurse]

Hey, Gypyx, why do you think Jackson was killed?

PR hunting / maintaining the current gamestate

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...you think Scum killed JV for PR hunting?

[Random Nurse]

Oh, hey, did you two ever respond to my questions on why you trust each other so much and apparently won't vote each other?

[Random Nurse]

Hey, Gypyx, why do you think Jackson was killed?

PR hunting / maintaining the current gamestate

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...you think Scum killed JV for PR hunting?

I absolutely didn't read Jackson's ISO but like, i was thinking "huh weird kill, probably hunting PR"

i recall jackson being more laid back than usual D1, that's maybe why

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OK but why is that a reason for Scum to NK JV?

[Random Nurse]

Oh, hey, did you two ever respond to my questions on why you trust each other so much and apparently won't vote each other?

look if you're not seeing it right now you aren't gonna be seeing it after i explain it to you

That's fine.

I've got more than enough time for you.

You know it's only going to get worse if you two keep surviving Day after Day. Look around you. You didn't notice the walls closing in a little bit?

[Random Nurse]

Hey, Gypyx, why do you think Jackson was killed?

PR hunting / maintaining the current gamestate

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...you think Scum killed JV for PR hunting?

I absolutely didn't read Jackson's ISO but like, i was thinking "huh weird kill, probably hunting PR"

i recall jackson being more laid back than usual D1, that's maybe why

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OK but why is that a reason for Scum to NK JV?

Because it could indicate him trying to not draw attention

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What does

that

mean?

[Random Nurse]

Despite there being only one kill Night 1 we ARE 100% certain this game is singleball, correct?

(I know, I know, I just HAVE to ask.)

[Random Nurse]

Despite there being only one kill Night 1 we ARE 100% certain this game is singleball, correct?

(I know, I know, I just HAVE to ask.)

I think there could be a SK, but we would have to be told if there are multiple scum teams?

If it's two Scum teams in a Large does the mod have to disclose that? Same with SK or Godfather?

PEDIT:

Ah, I see. Likely not then.

[Random Nurse]

Hello i'm john town cop, i kinda don't wanna get nightkilled

let's not look threatening to scum

No no no, I have questions.

You implied Scum shot JV because they were PR hunting. Why would Scum do that? Wouldn't they want a Townie to be Scumhunting? And then you mentioned something about JV trying not to be noticed, while PR hunting...?

I need you to clarify, please.

[Random Nurse]

Despite there being only one kill Night 1 we ARE 100% certain this game is singleball, correct?

(I know, I know, I just HAVE to ask.)

From the wiki:
Multiball - when there are two or more Mafia factions - is allowed in Large games only, and requires an announcement.

I'm assuming that includes SK under "two or more Mafia factions," Thomith?

[Random Nurse]

Despite there being only one kill Night 1 we ARE 100% certain this game is singleball, correct?

(I know, I know, I just HAVE to ask.)

From the wiki:
Multiball - when there are two or more Mafia factions - is allowed in Large games only, and requires an announcement.

I'm assuming that includes SK under "two or more Mafia factions," Thomith?

Serial Killers are not allowed in Micro games. They are allowed in Mini games but must be announced during signups. They are allowed in Larges and do not require an announcement.

So in this game, we wouldn't be told.

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Hm, interesting.

Unlikely, yet possible.

[Random Nurse]

Hello i'm john town cop, i kinda don't wanna get nightkilled

let's not look threatening to scum

No no no, I have questions.

You implied Scum shot JV because they were PR hunting. Why would Scum do that? Wouldn't they want a Townie to be Scumhunting? And then you mentioned something about JV trying not to be noticed, while PR hunting...?

I need you to clarify, please.

the scum were PR hunting by killing jackson

Good. You clarified. Splendid!

[Random Nurse]

I could vote this. I don't really want anyone in the hood atm

Do you just mean currently or like D2 in general?

I don't think any are scum right now

*raises eyebrow*

[Random Nurse]

I have the sneaking suspicion that should Ranger flip Town I'll be the convenient scapegoat.

[Random Nurse]

Yes lets vote claimed pr no matter that this slot will sort itself in a night or two
Awesome logic,my faith in this town goes under the zero

As opposed to the other logic of "shoot in hood because Scum," Naerys?

[Random Nurse]

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My gut just tingled a bit reading 1156. For a brief moment I felt that a supremely-conniving Scum wrote that.

[Random Nurse]

Yes lets vote claimed pr no matter that this slot will sort itself in a night or two
Awesome logic,my faith in this town goes under the zero

scum vig exists, this solves kinda nothing

So how does that work?

If a Scum Vig exists it's still only one Factional kill, right?

[Random Nurse]

Yes lets vote claimed pr no matter that this slot will sort itself in a night or two
Awesome logic,my faith in this town goes under the zero

scum vig exists, this solves kinda nothing

So how does that work?

If a Scum Vig exists it's still only one Factional kill, right?

Yes, still one factional kill, but then the vig can make another seperate kill.

Well that's some BS. Doesn't sound Normal to me—that must've been a recent change.

[Random Nurse]

I think it's too early to start shooting in the hood because hood.

Now if, say, two Townies die in the hood, 3 left, and it's mid-game OK, sure, maybe it's a better time to start hunting there.

[Random Nurse]

I think it's too early to start shooting in the hood because hood.

Now if, say, two Townies die in the hood, 3 left, and it's mid-game OK, sure, maybe it's a better time to start hunting there.

once again i'm asking to shoot in the hood cause i'm confident their behaviour both in and out of hood indicates that they are scum together

Who is they?

[Random Nurse]

*jots down another check for defensive behavior*

[Random Nurse]

I think gypyx is the most town of any of them. I'm kinda suspicious of people saying we HAVE to vote in the hood today

Make it make sense, Hu.

You say Gypyx is the most Town but they're also advocating for saying we have to vote in the hood the most.

[Random Nurse]

1. Who were the ones most trying to keep Ranger alive?

2.The last two votes on Ranger were Thomith and Gypyx (Gypyx's didn't count).

[Random Nurse]

Have players casually forgotten that Naerys voted themselves because they did not want to read Ranger's posting anymore, only to them be ignored as a wagon choice by Ranger... And then TRY TO SAVE RANGER AT END OF DAY?

It cannot see past that dissonance. It views either the emotional reaction Naerys had to be faked or the emotional reaction was real but Naerys still tried to save scum anyway.

In either case, it fits Ranger scum partner.

I played a game recently with Naerys where she also self-voted and had an emotional reaction that got her scumread and mislimmed as town. Nothing is telling me this situation is much different at the core. I don’t think the goal was to save scum at all and I believe her frustration because I’ve seen it before. Could I be wrong and she’s using her recent game to replicate “town” behavior? It’s a possibility but it seems unlikely. That combined with how I read her on D1 is enough (for me) to not want her pushed unless we get information that supports it. Not just “probably fake AtE”, that’s not enough when it very well could be real.

Maybe RN can weigh in on this because he was also in the game I’m referencing. I might give his opinion more weight if he thinks I’m trusting this too much.

Part of me does suspect Naerys more due to the Ranger flip.

[Random Nurse]

I'll be here more starting tomorrow.

Oblivion is locktown.

Why is that?

[Random Nurse]

VOTE: snow

still want this gone

Naerys is town and for those of you pushing scum you kinda need to recalibrate your scum compass

if snow flips town i swear i'll leave the hood stuff alone for a bit and try to explore more options

...

...

Hm...

[Random Nurse]

VOTE: snow

still want this gone

Naerys is town and for those of you pushing scum you kinda need to recalibrate your scum compass

if snow flips town i swear i'll leave the hood stuff alone for a bit and try to explore more options

...

...

Hm...

I'm curious to hear your thoughts/current reads.

I don't do reads lists, especially when asked.

I'll share my thoughts when I'm A) able and B) want to.

That's how I roll.

[Random Nurse]

I think I'd be OK with massclaiming today.

Assuming we do this which order should it be in?

[Random Nurse]

We assume there's at least 4, period.

[Random Nurse]

We assume there's at least 4, period.

Wait can there be 5? That’s insane if a possibility.

Always hope for the best, prepare for the worst. If there's only 4 instead of 5, great.

[Random Nurse]

I'm saying assume there's 4 Scum.

Do you understand that?

[Random Nurse]

This behavior change in PP is notable.

Anyone know if he's behaved this way while Scum?

[Random Nurse]

I'm not interested in voting Kay Day 2 and will actively dismantle any wagon that attempts to develop.

[Random Nurse]

Well, that folded quickly.

So, is the slot Scum or not?

[Random Nurse]

We assume there's at least 4, period.

Wait can there be 5? That’s insane if a possibility.

Always hope for the best, prepare for the worst. If there's only 4 instead of 5, great.

nurse you need to take your pills

In what universe do you think attacking me like this will help anyone?

[Random Nurse]

3 is what we're assuming and 4 is the worst case scenario, not the opposite

To be on the safe side we assume there's 4, NOT 3. Always assume the worst-case scenario to be safe.

[Random Nurse]

We assume there's at least 4, period.

Wait can there be 5? That’s insane if a possibility.

Always hope for the best, prepare for the worst. If there's only 4 instead of 5, great.

nurse you need to take your pills

In what universe do you think attacking me like this will help anyone?

Sorry this wasn't meant as a personal attack, just like considering there could be 5 scum is an EXTREMELY outlandish theory

5 scum means we reach ELo in 2 cycles

And, yet again, I am saying assume there's at least 4. Doesn't mean assume 5—there must be at least 4.

[Random Nurse]

I kinda assumed its 3p scum

Unwise because it could be endgame and "oh shit, there was another one."

It's just stupid to assume the best-case scenario.

[Random Nurse]

correct me if i'm wrong also, but we probably shouldn't go around assuming there could be 4 scum in every 13P normal because of "worst case scenario"

...

13p is not 15p, gypyx.

Why you continue to fight on this is concerning.

VOTE: Gypyx

[Random Nurse]

If there were 4 Scum it would make sense for them to try and convince the rest of Town there were only 3 Scum.

[Random Nurse]

So gypyx is fighting a strawman in their head. Got it.

There's 4 Scum. That's my go-to assumption. End of story. If it turns out there's only 3, great, but I doubt it.

I'm not even trying to upset you, Gypyx. Perhaps step back and reflect.

[Random Nurse]

can you explain why are you scumreading gypyx over this disagreement

Read 1602.

[Random Nurse]

You'd be right, but she has argued against a mass claim today. I don't see the benefit here for a scum!gypyx at this time. It's too early for a consensus here to matter much.

You´d be surprised, sometimes scum behaves more like town than townies themselves.

I'm not saying that Gypex is town. I'm saying that what she said wasn't scummy.

What I'm concerned with is having randomnurse be able to have better focus than I am with Gypyx's alignment.

What does that mean?

[Random Nurse]

I'm not saying that Gypex is town. I'm saying that what she said wasn't scummy.

What I'm concerned with is having randomnurse be able to have better focus than I am with Gypyx's alignment.

What does that mean?

I'd rather not have the thread derailed into an argument being made on a flimsy premise. You can make whatever arguments you'd like, but I think pursuing the angle that Gypyx is scummy for proposing a 12:3 setup isn't going anywhere.

Oh, so you'd rather deflect and not answer my question? You said you're concerned that I would have better focus than you regarding Gypyx's alignment. Now what the Hell does that mean?

It's probably 12:3 but I always err on the side of caution by assuming there's one more. It's not that difficult or controversial.

[Random Nurse]

alright everyone new topic, are we killing snow

Why?

[Random Nurse]

There's probably at least one Scum between Gypyx/Snow.

Kill one and, if Town, kill the other next.

[Random Nurse]

Let's start with Gypyx.

[Random Nurse]

How about we let a third party out of this pretty big clash of personalities decide

do we agree that's wise

Clash?

What clash?

[Random Nurse]

I found it Scummy you were saying there's 3 Scum when 4 is still possible. You're probably the 4th Scum saying to me "BRO, there's only 3 Bro, trust me Bro."

[Random Nurse]

and once again my insistance was on the fact that 3 was a possibility since you were theorizing that 5 was one, no need to talk about there possibly being 4 because we agreed on that

like please nurse stop being a brick wall that's the third time i'm explaining this to you

You keep saying I said there's 5 Scum we're going to continue having a problem.

[Random Nurse]

We assume there's at least 4, period.

Wait can there be 5? That’s insane if a possibility.

Always hope for the best, prepare for the worst. If there's only 4 instead of 5, great.

I'm saying assume there's 4, and there's a POSSIBILITY, A HIGHLY UNLIKELY ONE, of there being 5. It's most likely just FOUR.

[Random Nurse]

I am starting to think a Snow flip will provide a lot of information. They've been prodded and poked at by a ton of people.

And you're sitting pretty holding back and not doing much of anything.

[Random Nurse]

I'd like to see more votes on Gypyx.

[Random Nurse]

As Town don't self-vote.

[Random Nurse]

Snow if you're Town remove your vote.

Put it back on Gypyx.

[Random Nurse]

Snow if you're Town remove your vote.

Put it back on Gypyx.

Why so? I am town, but I am ready to go away today with Gypyx-Thomith to follow.

Self-voting is bad play unless you're Town. Make Scum work for their mis-lim.

[Random Nurse]

Snow if you're Town remove your vote.

Put it back on Gypyx.

Why so? I am town, but I am ready to go away today with Gypyx-Thomith to follow.

Self-voting is bad play unless you're Town. Make Scum work for their mis-lim.

*unless you're Scum.

[Random Nurse]

I do think Gypyx would be the optimal lim today, and if Gypyx is Scum then Thomith is toast.

[Random Nurse]

Basically yeah you two are like a discount bundle.

Odd and too good to be true.

[Random Nurse]

I do think Gypyx would be the optimal lim today, and if Gypyx is Scum then Thomith is toast.

Gypyx is town, so it would be a waste of an execution.

Should have time later today after work to catch up on everything.

How can you know that

How do you think?

If i knew i wouldnt ask

They're hinting at something like Masons if it isn't obvious, yet they're also still alive.

[Random Nurse]

Town-Informed...

...Neighbors.

...

...

..

.

[Random Nurse]

...

Let's kill one of them.

[Random Nurse]

Keep trying to squirm out of it.

[Random Nurse]

I see the Gypyx wagon has resistance. Guess I'll have to start playing.

Also, PenguinPower has left the building, @Mod. VC shows they're voting Naerys.

Thanks, fixed.

- Alianna

[Random Nurse]

I wonder where Thomith's vote may go.

*looks past VC*

Hey Psyche, if you don't help me yeet Gypyx there's a good likelihood you'll be yeeted instead.

[Random Nurse]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Random Nurse

Could go Gera as well, both are refusing to unvote someone I know is town so..

That's adorable.

You say you know Gypyx is Town, but I don't know that. If you were both Scum masquerading as Town-Informed Neighbors of course you would try to protect each other. My gut is screaming that both of you are Scum, and once I sense blood in the water I DON'T let up.

[Random Nurse]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Random Nurse

Could go Gera as well, both are refusing to unvote someone I know is town so..

That's adorable.

You say you know Gypyx is Town, but I don't know that. If you were both Scum masquerading as Town-Informed Neighbors of course you would try to protect each other. My gut is screaming that both of you are Scum, and once I sense blood in the water I DON'T let up.

I know that you don't know that, but from my POV I know you are voting in my eyes, someone who is 100% and refusing to unvote or consider another option, which is from my POV anti town.

Yeah but no.

You're basically saying if I don't go along with whatever you want me to do that makes me anti-Town. He'll the fuck no Bro. I don't know what the fuck your alignment is, and you could damn well be Scum with Gypyx, so I don't know what you two are and no way in Hell is it "anti-Town" for me to not exactly TRUST just your WORD. Also I don't HAVE to "consider another option" just because you WANT me to. As Town I play my OWN way, I play independently, and I decide what

I

want to do. If I want to latch onto YOUR leg like an overgrown lamprey ALL DAMN GAME I'll do that TOO. Don't TELL me how to play.

[Random Nurse]

but why is it

scummy

? he doesn't have your pov.

Because when Gypyx flips town, I 100% die next, since I will be confirmed at that point.

Random Nurse is actively working to remove two people who are sure of each other being town from the game, which is benefits scum.

WHO CARES if you die as Town?

Town doesn't GAF about self-preservation, and Informed Town Neighbors is a big pile of nothing when it comes to Town power.

[Random Nurse]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Random Nurse

Could go Gera as well, both are refusing to unvote someone I know is town so..

That's adorable.

You say you know Gypyx is Town, but I don't know that. If you were both Scum masquerading as Town-Informed Neighbors of course you would try to protect each other. My gut is screaming that both of you are Scum, and once I sense blood in the water I DON'T let up.

Look Nurse

if we're both scum, it'll be very obvious we are when Massclaim rolls around since 2 masons is kind of a pretty big step up in power for town

That was a gaffe, right?

You're Town-Informed Neighbors, not Masons, right? Because you just said Masons. Which is it? You DID NOT JUST trip up, right?

[Random Nurse]

I WANT GYPYX FLIPPED.

I WANT ANSWERS.

*fights the air*

[Random Nurse]

Yes me and thomith are masons

but not exactly masons

we are both Town Informed Neighbors, informed that the other one is town and knows they're town

does your comment imply you've figured us out earlier than that nurse?

Gypyx has literally been calling us mason without a PT/masons but not exactly, and I've been calling us Mason adjacent since we claimed.

Well, clarify it to the letter and have both of you stick with it to avoid confusion.

[Random Nurse]

thomith seems to treat "antitown" and "scummy" like synonyms. sort of surprising from someone with a good number of games played

Do you think this is AI of me?

it's more of an important thing to keep in mind than sortable on its own.
posts that might make me go "huh" might now fit into a pre-established pattern,
cases i make might appeal to your point-of-view.
et cetera

i'm close to willing to bet the game that you're town based on the play i've seen so far (you and gypyx) and the strength of your claim.
mostly the latter but the former's important too.
i suspect i'll find that you two were a major force behind the ranger lim too

is kind of interesting too that you seem to see RN as a real threat;
the chances of you or gypyx being limmed today seem extremely remote
and furthermore feel like in your shoes i might have been excited at the prospect of this sketchy new replacement doing something as wild as sheeping against the mason claims
you and i are definitely different people
but who caresss

I'll be real the RN vote was an emotional vote because he's pissing me tf off lmao.

He probably is town, as I've been town reading him up until this point.

And if you're Scum, which you very well may be, it's extremely intentional.

I literally have antagonized Scum and trapped Scum as Town, and it's very satisfying.

[Random Nurse]

Yes me and thomith are masons

but not exactly masons

we are both Town Informed Neighbors, informed that the other one is town and knows they're town

does your comment imply you've figured us out earlier than that nurse?

Gypyx has literally been calling us mason without a PT/masons but not exactly, and I've been calling us Mason adjacent since we claimed.

Well, clarify it to the letter and have both of you stick with it to avoid confusion.

I think it's clear what we mean.

And you have the intellect to understand that what you mean and what you say are two entirely different things.

[Random Nurse]

wonder if this is your first extended interaction with RN in a game? i got acquainted with this style around a month ago. so charming

As opposed to your passive, blase style?

[Random Nurse]

I feel we're not experiencing enough of Naerys, Kay, Gera, and Lycan this game.

[Random Nurse]

im sorry rn. i don't mean to insult you. i like you quite a lot. we are different people but we can dance all the same

Town is my strongsuit—I stay active, in-your-face, aggressive, and love getting exchanges going. I've caught Scum quite a few times based on what they incautiously said during those prior exchanges. Some players are archers while others are dual-wielders.

[Random Nurse]

thomith seems to treat "antitown" and "scummy" like synonyms. sort of surprising from someone with a good number of games played

Do you think this is AI of me?

it's more of an important thing to keep in mind than sortable on its own.
posts that might make me go "huh" might now fit into a pre-established pattern,
cases i make might appeal to your point-of-view.
et cetera

i'm close to willing to bet the game that you're town based on the play i've seen so far (you and gypyx) and the strength of your claim.
mostly the latter but the former's important too.
i suspect i'll find that you two were a major force behind the ranger lim too

is kind of interesting too that you seem to see RN as a real threat;
the chances of you or gypyx being limmed today seem extremely remote
and furthermore feel like in your shoes i might have been excited at the prospect of this sketchy new replacement doing something as wild as sheeping against the mason claims
you and i are definitely different people
but who caresss

I'll be real the RN vote was an emotional vote because he's pissing me tf off lmao.

He probably is town, as I've been town reading him up until this point.

And if you're Scum, which you very well may be, it's extremely intentional.

I literally have antagonized Scum and trapped Scum as Town, and it's very satisfying.

I'm not scum, so while it may work at cornering scum, it does also annoy town

I know it's intentional, because it's working because I'm annoyed

I understand that it's a game though so I've taken a step back and it's all cool lmao.

Thomith, I'm not even playing at 10% like I used to back under my original account, thanks to having no real time to sit down and play. I cut my analytical teeth playing this game. If I wanted to truly get under your skin I would, and enjoy it.

[Random Nurse]

thomith seems to treat "antitown" and "scummy" like synonyms. sort of surprising from someone with a good number of games played

Do you think this is AI of me?

it's more of an important thing to keep in mind than sortable on its own.
posts that might make me go "huh" might now fit into a pre-established pattern,
cases i make might appeal to your point-of-view.
et cetera

i'm close to willing to bet the game that you're town based on the play i've seen so far (you and gypyx) and the strength of your claim.
mostly the latter but the former's important too.
i suspect i'll find that you two were a major force behind the ranger lim too

is kind of interesting too that you seem to see RN as a real threat;
the chances of you or gypyx being limmed today seem extremely remote
and furthermore feel like in your shoes i might have been excited at the prospect of this sketchy new replacement doing something as wild as sheeping against the mason claims
you and i are definitely different people
but who caresss

I'll be real the RN vote was an emotional vote because he's pissing me tf off lmao.

He probably is town, as I've been town reading him up until this point.

And if you're Scum, which you very well may be, it's extremely intentional.

I literally have antagonized Scum and trapped Scum as Town, and it's very satisfying.

I'm not scum, so while it may work at cornering scum, it does also annoy town

I know it's intentional, because it's working because I'm annoyed

I understand that it's a game though so I've taken a step back and it's all cool lmao.

It's not personal.

It's one of the built-in hazards of being paranoid-AF Town.

[Random Nurse]

I'm not meaning to upset you either, and this is a game so I shouldn't be reacting emotionally, so I apologise as well.

Oh, you're not—I relish confrontation.

[Random Nurse]

I think the main thing is I do think you are town, and I'm getting frustrated because I'm not able to convince you that I am so we can work together.

That's on me to figure out how to do that though.

I've been playing since 2013.

You have no idea how supremely manipulative some Scum can be.

[Random Nurse]

i got a private topic for the part of the re-read where i give underbaked hot takes on arbitrary posts as im reading but if yall'd rather see those lemme know

Avocado?

[Random Nurse]

HEY, Batman Begins was a good movie.

[Random Nurse]

but why is it

scummy

? he doesn't have your pov.

Because when Gypyx flips town, I 100% die next, since I will be confirmed at that point.

Random Nurse is actively working to remove two people who are sure of each other being town from the game, which is benefits scum.

WHO CARES if you die as Town?

Town doesn't GAF about self-preservation, and Informed Town Neighbors is a big pile of nothing when it comes to Town power.

this just in Masons is a useless role

Town-Informed Neighbors.

But now you're clarifying that your role PM says "Mason," Gypyx?

[Random Nurse]

RN...what are the relevant features of being a mason that make the role a mason?

No no no, don't pester me on what a Mason is—I'm talking about the prior claim and the later claim.

First they claimed one thing then claimed another, and then sheepishly chuckled and said "oh well it's the same thing we use them interchangeably" ha ha no.

I want the DEETS.

Give me the exact role claim. Now.

[Random Nurse]

RN...what are the relevant features of being a mason that make the role a mason?

No no no, don't pester me on what a Mason is—I'm talking about the prior claim and the later claim.

First they claimed one thing then claimed another, and then sheepishly chuckled and said "oh well it's the same thing we use them interchangeably" ha ha no.

I want the DEETS.

Give me the exact role claim. Now.

Town Informed Neighbour.

I was informed that Gypyx is town aligned, and that she has also been informed that I am town aligned.

OK. Good job. So if there's a Role Cop they can check one of you tonight.

For Town clarification you're not Masons.

[Random Nurse]

Snow what have these Wonder Twins been saying in the Hood?

[Random Nurse]

Naerys what are your thoughts on this game so far?

[Random Nurse]

i'd actually really love a check on naeyrs that would be a really helpful call. in fact, i would feel some surprise if i learned that there is an investigative role in this game who has not touched naeyrs yet. unless it is naeyrs i guess!

Are you saying you don't want an investigative to check one of the Wonder Twins Tonight?

[Random Nurse]

Because it sounds like it.

[Random Nurse]

Mtfr.

[Random Nurse]

is RN an actual nurse!?

Yes, hence why I barely have time to play.

[Random Nurse]

RN...what are the relevant features of being a mason that make the role a mason?

No no no, don't pester me on what a Mason is—I'm talking about the prior claim and the later claim.

First they claimed one thing then claimed another, and then sheepishly chuckled and said "oh well it's the same thing we use them interchangeably" ha ha no.

I want the DEETS.

Give me the exact role claim. Now.

Town Informed Neighbour.

I was informed that Gypyx is town aligned, and that she has also been informed that I am town aligned.

OK. Good job. So if there's a Role Cop they can check one of you tonight.

For Town clarification you're not Masons.

If there's a Role Cop they'll get the result of Informed Neighbour, which for the record should not 100% clear us either.

...

...

...

...I don't like this.

[Random Nurse]

Although from a game design standpoint I love this because it's fucking with my paranoia.

Are you Informed of any other neighbors like Titus/Snow?

[Random Nurse]

Tell me again why you two were the last two to vote off Ranger?

[Random Nurse]

RN...what are the relevant features of being a mason that make the role a mason?

No no no, don't pester me on what a Mason is—I'm talking about the prior claim and the later claim.

First they claimed one thing then claimed another, and then sheepishly chuckled and said "oh well it's the same thing we use them interchangeably" ha ha no.

I want the DEETS.

Give me the exact role claim. Now.

Town Informed Neighbour.

I was informed that Gypyx is town aligned, and that she has also been informed that I am town aligned.

OK. Good job. So if there's a Role Cop they can check one of you tonight.

For Town clarification you're not Masons.

If there's a Role Cop they'll get the result of Informed Neighbour, which for the record should not 100% clear us either.

...

...

...

...I don't like this.

Why not?

I'm clarifying that a Role Cop investigating us should not hard clear us.

Yeah, no shit, I get that—it's very convenient.

DGB would be proud.

[Random Nurse]

Although from a game design standpoint I love this because it's fucking with my paranoia.

Are you Informed of any other neighbors like Titus/Snow?

I'm not informed of Titus/Snows alignment if that's your question.

The only thing I'm informed of is that Gypyx is town, and she knows that I am town.

Hm. Interesting that the second part is added in, when it could've just been left as you and Gypyx being informed each other is Town—not that they know each other are as well. But that's more a gameplay design question.

*lightly scratches surface with knife*

[Random Nurse]

but why is it

scummy

? he doesn't have your pov.

Because when Gypyx flips town, I 100% die next, since I will be confirmed at that point.

Random Nurse is actively working to remove two people who are sure of each other being town from the game, which is benefits scum.

WHO CARES if you die as Town?

Town doesn't GAF about self-preservation, and Informed Town Neighbors is a big pile of nothing when it comes to Town power.

this just in Masons is a useless role

Town-Informed Neighbors.

But now you're clarifying that your role PM says "Mason," Gypyx?

Masons are a group of people who mutually know they're town and have a PT together

Me and Thomith are a group of people who mutually know they're town and have a PT together

the word isn't there but i'm calling it that

But you're not, so don't. No free Towncred for you.

*sharpens nails*

[Random Nurse]

Tell me again why you two were the last two to vote off Ranger?

Gypyx asked in the hood chat if I would vote Ranger so she could hammer.

Gypyx would need to advise why exactly she decided to pivot back to Ranger from Snow.

Yeah, why do you think she wanted it that way?

[Random Nurse]

I must admit if you two keep surviving as pseudo-Masons I'm only going to suspect you two further.

[Random Nurse]

*hoping to draw NK*

[Random Nurse]

Although from a game design standpoint I love this because it's fucking with my paranoia.

Are you Informed of any other neighbors like Titus/Snow?

I'm not informed of Titus/Snows alignment if that's your question.

The only thing I'm informed of is that Gypyx is town, and she knows that I am town.

Thought back on the claim and felt it was scummy as hell

didn't trust that letting the wave ride outside of ranger would land in us killing town

this was the height of my "3 scum in hood" theory and while i'm no longer really attached to it i still thought ranger would flip scum

Why did you wait so long though?

Why didn't you just give ahead and vote instead of waiting for Thomith to vote first? Is that correct or did I miss something on the timeline?

[Random Nurse]

but why is it

scummy

? he doesn't have your pov.

Because when Gypyx flips town, I 100% die next, since I will be confirmed at that point.

Random Nurse is actively working to remove two people who are sure of each other being town from the game, which is benefits scum.

WHO CARES if you die as Town?

Town doesn't GAF about self-preservation, and Informed Towtimeliness?
rs is a big pile of nothing when it comes to Town power.

this just in Masons is a useless role

Town-Informed Neighbors.

But now you're clarifying that your role PM says "Mason," Gypyx?

Masons are a group of people who mutually know they're town and have a PT together

Me and Thomith are a group of people who mutually know they're town and have a PT together

the word isn't there but i'm calling it that

But you're not, so don't. No free Towncred for you.

*sharpens nails*

Funnily enough i have the feeling having the word "mason" in my role PM wouldn't have changed your behaviour around me by a lot

It's not about the role but about claiming one thing and then a different thing.

Don't get it twisted else I'll be on you like a monkey on a cupcake.

[Random Nurse]

Although from a game design standpoint I love this because it's fucking with my paranoia.

Are you Informed of any other neighbors like Titus/Snow?

I'm not informed of Titus/Snows alignment if that's your question.

The only thing I'm informed of is that Gypyx is town, and she knows that I am town.

Thought back on the claim and felt it was scummy as hell

didn't trust that letting the wave ride outside of ranger would land in us killing town

this was the height of my "3 scum in hood" theory and while i'm no longer really attached to it i still thought ranger would flip scum

Why did you wait so long though?

Why didn't you just give ahead and vote instead of waiting for Thomith to vote first? Is that correct or did I miss something on the timeline?

Didn't want scum titus / anyone else to unvote upon seeing ranger at E-1

this was basically a quickhammer

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Do you still view Titus as Scum or no?

Do you normally quickhammer?

If you both were Scum you're well-aware how advantageous it could be to bus a doomed teammate.

[Random Nurse]

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How much time was remaining before your quickhammer, Gypyx?

[Random Nurse]

Congrats Nurse you win i'm scum, your task is now to convince the rest of the playerlist that i am

That's fine morning's in a couple hours.

[Random Nurse]

OK OK I just need you to stay in that pose for a lil' bit longer—gonna frame this shit if it turns out you WERE Scum and I reeled you in like a big fucking catfish.

[Random Nurse]

And for the thread's general curiosity i guess i'll say that titus sits at like a 25% to me rn

OK, go on?

[Random Nurse]

I think I have too many townreads. This always happens to me by D3 i guess.

This happens frequently it seems.

[Random Nurse]

Flip*

I'll congratulate the game mod and be up your ass in the next game.

[Random Nurse]

Lol.

[Random Nurse]

Hey Nurse

they asked for your permission to be put as the example picture in this article

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hobby_tunneling

Tunneling?

Is that what you call Scumhunting the active players when I'm awake and online?

[Random Nurse]

You have been going at it for 70 posts straight, uninterrupted

And?

I wish more of you Muppets would enter the Thunderdome.

[Random Nurse]

Psyche
Thomith
Random Nurse
Gypyx

Oblivion
geraintm

Naerys
Lycanfire

Snow2697
KayJayQueue
Titus

here's my more conservative read list atm
top tier is "id bet game these are town"
mid tier is "i normal townread these"
second-to-bottom tier is "i expect to townread these"
bottom tier is null. just null.

Could you please give like 2-3 sentences on why Titus is at the very bottom fmof your list?

[Random Nurse]

Also you should be Scumreading AT LEAST one player. Come on now.

[Random Nurse]

Interesting.

[Random Nurse]

Was Dave/Ranger slot distancing/fake-fighting with any players in early game?

[Random Nurse]

Psyche, if Thomith/Gypyx Survive Night 3 and Night 4, would that change your stance on them at all?