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[KayJayQueue]

Good morning fellow townies!

I’m getting flashbacks from this. Last time someone said these exact words…they were scum! lol

[KayJayQueue]

Well in that case…

VOTE: Brian Skies

[KayJayQueue]

Hi.

Sus!

[KayJayQueue]

VOTE: Titus

[KayJayQueue]

Doesn’t seem all that defensive. Are you projecting?

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1.3

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Political Clout (4) :

Political Clout / Davesaz / yessiree / Brian Skies

Brian Skies (2) :

KayJayQueue / PenguinPower

Random Nurse (2) :

BlackStar / Titus

Davesaz (1) :

SmileyDude1

BlackStar (1) :

Greeting

Titus (1) :

KayJayQueue

Not Voting (3) :

Hu Tao / StraightFlush / Random Nurse

With 13 alive, it takes 7 votes to execute someone, day 1 ends in (expired on 2024-03-25 13:02:46)

vote history

PenguinPower :

yessiree (8) -> Brian Skies (29)

yessiree :

PenguinPower (9) -> Political Clout (82)

Davesaz :

greeting (13) -> Political Clout (76)

BlackStar :

Political Clout (18) -> Unvote(52) -> Random Nurse (90)

KayJayQueue :

Brian Skies (22) -> Titus (95)

Political Clout :

Politicial Clout (26)

SmileyDude1 :

Brian Skies (27) -> Unvote (91) -> Davesaz (92)

Greeting :

BlackStar (70)

Brian Skies :

Political Clout (83)

TItus :

Random Nurse (94)

mod notes

Brian Skies and Titus are V/LA until monday

You have me listed as voting for two different people here. My current vote is on Titus.

Thank you!

[KayJayQueue]

my bad, i apparently can't add up 4+2+2+1+1+1+3 to 14

[KayJayQueue]

I might have a really busy day at work today but I’ll be checking in as often as I can!

[KayJayQueue]

VC please

[KayJayQueue]

VC please

Nevermind

VOTE: Brian

[KayJayQueue]

Not really interested in limming bs day 1 on his first game back in ages.

This doesn’t have anything to do with the actual game though. If he’s scum you’d be giving him a stay of execution for what? To have an extra week to strategize, pick us off, and get in a better position to win?

This is a weird position to play. It’s like “no let’s not vote this person because they’re my friend.” If you have a better reason not to vote that way, give us that information instead.

[KayJayQueue]

Not really interested in limming bs day 1 on his first game back in ages.

Respectfully disagree with the logic presented here but I digress. What's your read on Brian right now, it's apparent that you don't lean scum on Brian given the above post, but was wondering whether you felt more neutral or positive towards them at the moment?

Is it even logic? It doesn’t seem based in logic in the slightest. It’s an emotional response of wanting a friend to stay around. If there was logic behind it, I think she would’ve led with that not just used the excuse of him having been gone a long time.

[KayJayQueue]

VC please

Nevermind

VOTE: Brian

Meant to ask you about this, was wondering about your motivations for this vote. Was it more agreement with other cases, or did you have your own reasons for voting there.

The most active and defensive V/LA I’ve ever seen. Feels like there’s a reason behind it. I also disagree with the PC votes and now wagon.

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I find it interesting all of the people that are voting me are people I don't know. All the people that have experience with me aren't voting me.

There's not really anything I can glean from this alignment-wise. It's just an observation I wanted to point out.

All that means in my case is that I’m not basing my vote on meta in any way. Just what I see with my own eyes in this game.

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Okay, you'd be in the pile of people that don't know me anyway. So I don't really see how meta would help you to begin with. Not that it matters.

I guess I thought you were implying that those that know you weren’t voting for you because of meta reasons why they would town-read you. It seems that’s the only reason you’d even bring that up. You posted it for a reason and I believe this was the implication.

[KayJayQueue]

Then again, I feel icky about jumping on the

Brian Skies

wagon, because I could very well see their posts coming from a townie perspective and also I feel icky about most people who already are voting them.

What do you think a better vote is?

[KayJayQueue]

ITT everyone is gaslighting me.

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StraightFlush fell for the bait. So he's probably scum.

I'm going to say Dave/StraightFlush/????

If dave and I are scummates, that was some pretty clumsy distancing from him earlier when he accused me of slipping for no reason

So you refute that you and Dave are partners but not that you’re scum. Noted!

[KayJayQueue]

i can't recall anything that user has said or done

Studies show that blueberries, avocados, leafy greens, fatty fish and eggs help improve memory. Also you could look at my ISO.

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Okay then. For someone who usually has a much more friendly and joking tone, seems a bit weird to take this kind of stance but what do I know.

[KayJayQueue]

Have we played together before?

No we don’t have a completed game together.

[KayJayQueue]

Considering a vote on either Greeting or KayJayQueue. Perhaps Random Nurse too if he continues to get nowhere in terms of thread presence

What would be your reasoning for a vote on me?

[KayJayQueue]

Considering a vote on either Greeting or KayJayQueue. Perhaps Random Nurse too if he continues to get nowhere in terms of thread presence

What would be your reasoning for a vote on me?

While I disagree with his methods/attittude to some extent, I think Penguin's desire to start a third wagon is towny atp. Targeting a null slot is often preferable to picking between wagons that you feel are TvT with some confidence.

Okay well I’m not sure if you’re saying I’m null because you believe I’m null or because penguin has a bad memory but either way I don’t think there’s anything I can say at the moment to de-nullify myself. If you vote me and it turns into a viable wagon, I will start kicking & screaming though lol

[KayJayQueue]

I’m not fully V/LA or anything but activity level over the next 2 1/2 days will be greatly reduced as I’m starting my insane work hours as per every weekend. I’ll still be around though.

[KayJayQueue]

I think the solve is within Brian/smiley/Titus/yessiree/greeting

But don’t worry, I’m usually wrong.

[KayJayQueue]

I need to be someone’s butler. Can I pretend this is botc? Who wants to let me serve them so I don’t have to think about my vote lol I don’t know why I’m finding this particular game so difficult to get a good read on.

[KayJayQueue]

I need to be someone’s butler. Can I pretend this is botc? Who wants to let me serve them so I don’t have to think about my vote lol I don’t know why I’m finding this particular game so difficult to get a good read on.

Who would you say you trust most right now. When in doubt sheep a townread?

Spoiler: rambling

(i'm actually going through a slight mini-crisis with the above advice right now. Cause obviously i'd prefer you stand behind your own take cause it makes you easier to read, so my gut doesn't want to suggest you just sheep someone, but my brain says suggesting you do this still gleans useful info for later while making it easier to engage now. Anyways this is a bit of a irrelevant ramble so i'm probs just going to spoiler this.

I trust no one.

[KayJayQueue]

I need to be someone’s butler. Can I pretend this is botc? Who wants to let me serve them so I don’t have to think about my vote lol I don’t know why I’m finding this particular game so difficult to get a good read on.

Who would you say you trust most right now. When in doubt sheep a townread?

Spoiler: rambling

(i'm actually going through a slight mini-crisis with the above advice right now. Cause obviously i'd prefer you stand behind your own take cause it makes you easier to read, so my gut doesn't want to suggest you just sheep someone, but my brain says suggesting you do this still gleans useful info for later while making it easier to engage now. Anyways this is a bit of a irrelevant ramble so i'm probs just going to spoiler this.

I trust no one.

Hmm, given this stance, why offer to lend out your vote then?

Pretty sure I answered that in my original post

I just have no idea which direction to go here. These players are all merely questions marks with different personalities at the moment.

[KayJayQueue]

I need to be someone’s butler. Can I pretend this is botc? Who wants to let me serve them so I don’t have to think about my vote lol I don’t know why I’m finding this particular game so difficult to get a good read on.

Who would you say you trust most right now. When in doubt sheep a townread?

Spoiler: rambling

(i'm actually going through a slight mini-crisis with the above advice right now. Cause obviously i'd prefer you stand behind your own take cause it makes you easier to read, so my gut doesn't want to suggest you just sheep someone, but my brain says suggesting you do this still gleans useful info for later while making it easier to engage now. Anyways this is a bit of a irrelevant ramble so i'm probs just going to spoiler this.

I trust no one.

</3

We’re supposed to be distancing, you’re doing it wrong!

[KayJayQueue]

Stop! Hammertime

[KayJayQueue]

*breathes*

"OMG you're Scum!!1!"

Felt.

[KayJayQueue]

I want to hammer because it would give me a rush but I don’t love some of the people on this wagon and I’m not sure I want to be lumped into that group on Day 2.

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UNVOTE:

Don't want this hammered before Greeting has a chance to give input

I see you trying to appear town lol

[KayJayQueue]

I promise there was levity in my tone (in my head) when I was writing that. I wasn’t making a serious accusation, just trying to have some fun.

[KayJayQueue]

21 hours

James Franco went 127 hours, we can make it!

[KayJayQueue]

VOTE: Titus

[KayJayQueue]

I think I feel least good about Penguin, Titus, yessiree from the wagon. Still feeling iffy of Brian.

[KayJayQueue]

Killing on wagon? Hm

What does this usually indicate?

[KayJayQueue]

Out of the people on the wagon I'm the most suspicious of Penguin and Davesaz. But Random Nurse's post near the end of the day when they tried to hammer also felt weird to me

I’m so confused about RN this game. I wish I had a solid pov.

[KayJayQueue]

VOTE: Titus

[KayJayQueue]

Doubling down don’t make it town!

[KayJayQueue]

Doubling down don’t make it town!

thanks for making me spit out my water on my monitor

You’re welcome

[KayJayQueue]

VOTE: yessiree

I guess I don’t always have to make a stand alone. I’ll hop on a wagon since I agree with it.

[KayJayQueue]

VOTE: yessiree

You might well have been cooking day 1

LET HER COOK!

[KayJayQueue]

the votecount right about you shows that statement to be inaccurate...

No fucking way I just read the votecount backwards

VOTE: BlackStar

That happens all the time to me lol

[KayJayQueue]

Brian did WORK climbing that reads list!

[KayJayQueue]

I don't really trust Titus that much and don't think she's done anything that couldn't be faked.

Finally I’m not alone lol

[KayJayQueue]

I'll fight all y'all

That hammer was town

That flip was not part of the script

[KayJayQueue]

How about bottom 4?

[KayJayQueue]

Where does the Penguin townread come from? What’s the deal with BlackStar? Are your opinions influenced by Smiley’s ISO at all? What do you make of Nurse attempting to hammer at the “same time” as you? Why did you hammer Greeting after heavily shading the wagon based on its speed? Why would you hammer too fast for Greeting to respond after complaining that the wagon is too fast? After reading your posts back I don’t find satisfactory explanations for anything from EoD and this readlist doesn’t quite click for me.

Go off King

[KayJayQueue]

Why would you hammer too fast for Greeting to respond after complaining that the wagon is too fast?

he wasn't going to claim because he requested for replacement? I know we shouldn't be speculating about circumstances relating to that, but since you went there, I will note that he was given plenty of time to claim and chose not

and that convinced me of a likely scum flip

But the deadline was frozen, are you saying you didn’t want to wait for a rep-in to catch up and claim? You just assumed a replace-out = scum?

[KayJayQueue]

Unfortunately, I do not have time to contribute any more for now. I will try to pop in before end of day.

This was his last post and it was before being e-1 at any point. He clearly said he didn’t have much time to contribute. We have no idea of knowing when he asked to be replaced out. So to make all those assumptions seems either convenient or reckless.

[KayJayQueue]

Unfortunately, I do not have time to contribute any more for now. I will try to pop in before end of day.

This was his last post and it was before being e-1 at any point. He clearly said he didn’t have much time to contribute. We have no idea of knowing when he asked to be replaced out. So to make all those assumptions seems either convenient or reckless.

yea but, it wouldn't have taken that much time to make one post to claim

Like I said, you have no way of knowing when he asked to replace-out and as soon as he asked, he can’t jump back in and post even if it’s just to claim. You’re making way too many assumptions about what happened when.

[KayJayQueue]

Ooh I’m not a fan of what just happened.

[KayJayQueue]

This probably isn’t a perfect solve but Penguin was voting Yessiree (current wagon), BlackStar was voting Penguin. BlackStar moves vote to StraightFlush after an aggressive back and forth, Penguin immediately sheeps the vote. Now I can’t say it’s all 3 (Penguin, Yessiree, BlackStar) but I do think Penguin moving off the wagon to a counter wagon (or at least an attempted one) looks odd to me. I think Penguin/yessiree may be teamed.

[KayJayQueue]

This probably isn’t a perfect solve but Penguin was voting Yessiree (current wagon), BlackStar was voting Penguin. BlackStar moves vote to StraightFlush after an aggressive back and forth, Penguin immediately sheeps the vote. Now I can’t say it’s all 3 (Penguin, Yessiree, BlackStar) but I do think Penguin moving off the wagon to a counter wagon (or at least an attempted one) looks odd to me. I think Penguin/yessiree may be teamed.

I trust you to have eyes and read the interaction that just happened and come up with a reason as to why I just moved my vote.

It could also be an excuse to move the vote, I’m not quite sure yet. I’m taking things as they come. But yes, I do have eyes.

[KayJayQueue]

I’m thinking of voting titus or penguin here.

VOTE: titus

Consensus can come later

Stop trying to make me townread you lol

[KayJayQueue]

:igmeoy: jackson. I think titus might be an easy person to go after in this game state and with titus being sick and away just not believable scum read to me. I think straightflush is just a frustrated townie. I think our current path leads to glory as well. we should lim yessirree.

I dig it

[KayJayQueue]

Go for it, you don’t need my support

Technically, we might

[KayJayQueue]

I’m inherently for a yessiree wagon, but there’s no utility in me jumping on that so I’m spreading my feelers

Smart. Might be a bus happening here, either way I smell a rat with that wagon

I have a guess

[KayJayQueue]

I’m inherently for a yessiree wagon, but there’s no utility in me jumping on that so I’m spreading my feelers

Smart. Might be a bus happening here, either way I smell a rat with that wagon

I have a guess

Who?

I figured it was obvious given my history in this game. I’m very wary of Titus.

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KJQ your behavior around Titus almost feels like tunneling at this point, it would help me a lot if you told me why you're so much stronger on them than anyone else. You don't strike me as someone with NO other scumreads, just no others that you're pursuing at all.

I am literally voting yessiree?

[KayJayQueue]

My current scumpool is yessiree, penguin, Titus and an outside maybe of BlackStar. I haven’t hidden these reads, I don’t think I’m being too tunnel-y on Titus.

[KayJayQueue]

I didn’t just hop in a wagon because it was more popular, I believe I stated that I did so because I also think it’s right. Not sure my exact words. I felt fine putting Titus on the backburner.

[KayJayQueue]

My current scumpool is yessiree, penguin, Titus and an outside maybe of BlackStar. I haven’t hidden these reads, I don’t think I’m being too tunnel-y on Titus.

Okay fair, rereading your ISO you do talk about Penguin beyond echoing my posts. My bad. But then why are you hopping on a suspiciously fast wagon that was started by Penguin? Are you going to die on the hill that he's teamed with yessiree? I don't think that's wise.

No I’m not going to die on that hill but even without penguin, I think it’s the right wagon for me at the moment. I feel pretty strongly about it.

[KayJayQueue]

I’m starting to actively dislike the yessiree wagon now

[KayJayQueue]

Aw shit, do I gotta eat my words already and die on this hill? Damn it!

Seriously though, so far, I’m happy where my vote is no matter how fishy it smells.

[KayJayQueue]

no matter how fishy it smells.

You smell like a dead trout.

As long as I’m a rainbow trout

[KayJayQueue]

For anyone wondering what the deal is, I'm open to the possibility that KJQ tried to pocket me during the BlackStar affair.

You wish lol

[KayJayQueue]

For anyone wondering what the deal is, I'm open to the possibility that KJQ tried to pocket me during the BlackStar affair.

You wish lol

No, I'm sincerely hoping I'm wrong. Your posting seems broadly towny otherwise.

You are wrong, though I doubt me saying that will matter.

[KayJayQueue]

Wait, I’ve seen this one!

[KayJayQueue]

Titus is a seasoned player, maybe she knew being first on would read as towny. (just a possibility)

[KayJayQueue]

We don’t know PC vs Brian was TvT 100%. We are operating on this assumption but not facts.

[KayJayQueue]

We don’t know PC vs Brian was TvT 100%. We are operating on this assumption but not facts.

Greeting flipping town means I'm not fully operating on that either, I'm quite suspicious of PC at present. But I need to hammer into Jackson's head what was actually happening D1

Oh did you just soft claim that you’re going to hammer today? I knew it.

But also, carry on. Hammer away.

[KayJayQueue]

Yessiree wolf - let’s get him

[KayJayQueue]

Yessiree I think is off my list for today for reasons I’ve explained but they’d be around that. I don’t think there’s much use in me pushing yessiree even if I did scumread him fully. I’d rather the town have multiple focuses while we have time.

I’m not vibing as much with this but I guess we’ll see what happens.

[KayJayQueue]

VOTE: Hu Tao

why so defensive

Holy projection

Doesn’t seem all that defensive. Are you projecting?

Looking back I caught a glimpse of this again which I actively disliked but ignored it for the moment. This feels like it was made specifically FOR reacting to Kay more than a mindmeld (which I know happens)

So you think Hu faked a mindmeld? Why does this make you feel better about yessiree and did it tell you anything about me?

[KayJayQueue]

Only interactions with Kay. While I also responded to the jokes this feels like she’s pocketing Kay specifically.

It’s nice to feel wanted!

[KayJayQueue]

There’s one post from early yessiree that is stuck in my head, people regarded it as scummy but my initial thoughts was the opposite. Let me look back

I only assumed it had to do with yessiree because you posted this before the Hu stuff with me responding to yessiree.

[KayJayQueue]

daveslot probably scum

thanks for repping in

Want a cookie?

I don’t do sweet. Some sort of fish would be great though. Thanks!

I’ve got dead trout (apparently)

[KayJayQueue]

Stop being busy and play mafia, like an adult!

[KayJayQueue]

wouldn't scum want me and brian to keep going at eachother?

Not if one of you were scum too

[KayJayQueue]

We don’t know PC vs Brian was TvT 100%. We are operating on this assumption but not facts.

Of course. We act on assumptions and it was good at the time.

That statement wasn’t so much against your actions but SF’s interpretation of your actions based on an assumption.

[KayJayQueue]

Hu is this the game you finally get me back lol I know it’s coming but I want to remain blissfully ignorant until it happens.

[KayJayQueue]

I feel like I may sheep someone today. I'm having trouble seeing people as scummy.

Also, my posting will be limited the next two days.

Sheep me! I volunteer as tribute!

[KayJayQueue]

This page has lasted over a day, where’s everyone at? Is it because of Easter? Eh, probably. I want someone to hunt scum with me. I need to look at someone besides yessiree so I have a game plan for tomorrow (unless this wagon crashes and burns)

[KayJayQueue]

I want to pivot to Hu Tao, it’s tempting

He doesn’t want a competing pocket, obviously. Typical scum move.

[KayJayQueue]

VOTE: JacksonVirgo

No one wants to fade yessiree. Lame.

[KayJayQueue]

That was Day 1, we’re on Day 2 already!

[KayJayQueue]

A semi-inactive slot turning into a chaotic slot? I'm not sure if this is an improvement.

At least it’s interesting

[KayJayQueue]

hmmmmmm. Actually, this is an odd response since Titus is one of the main people that it's been said I could be linked to. Seems strangely defensive to draw that conclusion in this context

Well now she’s distancing (my interpretation of the vote, but maybe not), how do you feel about that? Does the scumread feel genuine?

[KayJayQueue]

I really wish I could understand this pov. I’m not seeing it and I’m trying really hard not to be influenced by my earlier reads. I’m going to resist the urge to vote Titus again here and just go back to the wagon I feel is best for today.

VOTE: yessiree


I think I need to reread Titus from as clean of a slate as possible.

[KayJayQueue]

Straightflush Blackstar +1

I don’t want to misinterpret, what did you mean here?

[KayJayQueue]

Hmm. What am I not seeing with straightflush?

[KayJayQueue]

Straightflush Blackstar +1

I don’t want to misinterpret, what did you mean here?

I'm guessing she means the scumteam is StraightFlush, Blackstar, and one more person.

So that would mean SF’s scumread and vote on BlackStar is theater? In her opinion.

Feel free to correct me, Titus.

[KayJayQueue]

yessiree not gaining any steam and not posting just makes me think we're on the right path

You can also argue the opposite

Jack tell me again why you don’t want to vote yessiree?

Do you think a Titus lim is possible or probable?

[KayJayQueue]

Hmm. What am I not seeing with straightflush?

how are you reading that slot?

Slight townlean currently. But I’m surprised how many people feel the opposite so I’m worried I’ve missed something.

[KayJayQueue]

I hate to be seen siding with half of towns scumread, but is Enchant actually not going to catch up? He’s voted twice but otherwise not posted any game-advancing content. I don’t love it. But I’m sure I’m just overreacting so I’ll leave it for now.

[KayJayQueue]

Why you hate siding with other people scumread?

What your own opinion?

That’s my opinion. What I posted. But sometimes posting something that looks like you’re agreeing/supporting someone could get an accusation of partnering, especially for those looking for more reasons to solidify their vote or read.

[KayJayQueue]

I don't think i can seriously consider opinion of player who avoids taking sides due "WHAT IF I LOOK PARTNERED"

But I literally didn’t avoid taking sides. I gave my opinion. I just added that on to show I was aware it could be used against me and felt I wanted to give my opinion anyway.

[KayJayQueue]

Yet you don't have your own opinion on slot (which i asked)

I must’ve misunderstood your question then, I didn’t realize you were asking my opinion on a slot. Were you asking for my opinion on SF?

[KayJayQueue]

I think from my initial response to you, you can see how I interpreted your post and question.


Anyway, if you’d have been reading since you repped in, you’d see I literally answered that question in 893. It’s not like I’m hiding my reads or not committing whatever you’re trying to insinuate.

[KayJayQueue]

I think from my initial response to you, you can see how I interpreted your post and question.

Anyway, if you’d have been reading since you repped in, you’d see I literally answered that question in 893. It’s not like I’m hiding my reads or not committing whatever you’re trying to insinuate.

And you doing nothing

Lmaoooo

Excuse me?

[KayJayQueue]

That vote means literally nothing coming from someone who refuses to even read the game of a slot he repped into.

[KayJayQueue]

You are saying there is inaction but there isn’t. But you couldn’t even bother to read what’s been posted since you joined so I don’t expect much solid analysis coming from you. Enjoy playing the game from that handicapped state.

[KayJayQueue]

I think so

[KayJayQueue]

I guess you can claim now lol

[KayJayQueue]

Sigh

[KayJayQueue]

That’s not the sigh lol

[KayJayQueue]

Stop killing Jack

[KayJayQueue]

To clarify since others might have misunderstood my “sigh” reaction: I was annoyed StraightFlush was inevitably going to get limmed as there was nothing I could do to stop it. I was leaning heavily town on him and I had pretty strong feelings that the lim should’ve been elsewhere.

Unless someone has info on why this is no longer a viable lim, I will be here:

VOTE: yessiree

[KayJayQueue]

ah shid, here we go again

Give me a reason not to, then. Give me a solid read with a good explanation and I’ll consider it. I’m not trying to tunnel but the counter wagon that formed against you got to 3-4 votes very fast and I just don’t understand the pivot unless you were trying to be saved by your scum buddies.

[KayJayQueue]

my wagon formed pretty fast too

scum was happy cheer leading both wagons

Well if that’s true, I’m sorry that I started it with conviction. But I won’t fully apologize until I know I was wrong.

[KayJayQueue]

I’d really love if we could find out information from night phase but it would out any PR so that would just cripple us. It’s such a frustrating place to be.

[KayJayQueue]

I have a theory about something, but I don’t have much confidence right now because I was so wrong before

If it’s not something that might out an asset to the town, I’d love to hear the theory. Sometimes 3 heads on a thought are better than 1. Anything could be helpful, even if we end up deciding it’s not correct. It still eliminates a possibility, you know?

[KayJayQueue]

Rest in PC.

I’ll avenge you.

[KayJayQueue]

I’m looking at Penguin & Titus now.

[KayJayQueue]

Titus seems like obv town to me here

I agree

Hmm maybe Titus didn't act one of the nights and why he agreed with this

Does not acting clear her? If there are 3 mafia and only 1 does the night kill, the other two wouldn’t show as acting at night, right? Please correct me if I’m wrong.

[KayJayQueue]

It doesn't clear her. Just an observation. I personally think she's town anyway

I feel like I’m the only one that’s been sus of her since D1. Oh well, I’ll keep my suspicions.

[KayJayQueue]

VOTE: PenguinPower

Still not feeling great about Titus either.

[KayJayQueue]

I probably should take it somewhat seriously, as i said, i think it was bus.

When i get less lazy i compare wagons. Or you may do it for me. Vote count analysis never entertained me.

If it was a bus that means it’s Titus, Hu, and/or you that was possibly bussing. From those options, what do you think is most likely?

[KayJayQueue]

I appreciate that analysis and it lines up with a lot of my thinking as well.

[KayJayQueue]

I’d be down for an Enchant yeet.

Opinions on Titus?

[KayJayQueue]

Not much to form an opinion from tbh. I’d be fine with a Titus yeet too but I like enchant less.

Is this just from the rep-in on or did you have reason to previous dislike his slot?

[KayJayQueue]

VOTE: Random Nurse

Ummm

[KayJayQueue]

I mean - RN is equivalent to Titus in readability this game so Enchant has just pushed the slot in the lead.

That makes sense

[KayJayQueue]

And Titus

[KayJayQueue]

Quick note that I’m currently at e-1 since enchant is in the game.

What in the Not_Mafia…

[KayJayQueue]

I thought PC wasn't vanilla.

I guess he threw together that “claim” so quickly he forgot to check his notes lol

[KayJayQueue]

It’s just a joke…damn.

[KayJayQueue]

it's not just a joke - it's pretty strong shade

You made the mistake. I don’t know why you’re getting mad at me when you’re the one that screwed up. We’re allowed to comment on it.

[KayJayQueue]

It’s not scummy at all when you’re one of my top scumreads and you make a mistake that looks bad, yeah I’m going to comment on it, and I did so jokingly. You’re getting overly defensive about it and I think you’re taking it way too personally.

[KayJayQueue]

It was both. Either way, it’s not something to take personally. I didn’t insult you. I’m commenting on what’s happening in the game.

[KayJayQueue]

I can tell you that I’m not ascetic. He was definitely blocked if he checked me and it didn’t work.

[KayJayQueue]

I tried to target people who most people seemed suspicious of

If you roleblocked Enchant the night Penguin checked me, why didn’t his go through? Is the implication that both town and scum have roleblockers?

[KayJayQueue]

Tinfoil hat time - BlackStar and Titus are teamed and this is to get us to trust BlackStar until end of game once Titus flips red.

[KayJayQueue]

Can someone please tell me why Titus is town though? I’ve felt she’s scum since D1 so please help me lol

[KayJayQueue]

How do we know we have 4 town PRs?

[KayJayQueue]

I’m not claiming. If scum can choose not to kill, this may be a strategy. Because we don’t have 2 role blockers. And Penguin was role blocked the same night BS claims he blocked Enchant. Not buying it.

[KayJayQueue]

I’m not sold on town Titus yet, I’d like to hear what she has to say first.

[KayJayQueue]

I wasn’t roleblocked, penguin was

[KayJayQueue]

Pretty sure I’ve had one of the longest susses on Titus lol

[KayJayQueue]

I tried to target people who most people seemed suspicious of

Who exactly was suspicious of Enchant?

[KayJayQueue]

I guess I should just follow my gut 100% the next time I'm a PR instead of trying to figure out who the town would want me to target the most. I can see how this looks confusing

You just have to do what feels best to you. If you have strong reads, go with your gut and try to PoE the rest.

Why am I saying this as if I’ve ever had a PR (I haven’t)

[KayJayQueue]

I guess I should just follow my gut 100% the next time I'm a PR instead of trying to figure out who the town would want me to target the most. I can see how this looks confusing

You just have to do what feels best to you. If you have strong reads, go with your gut and try to PoE the rest.

Unless you are vigilante

Well….yes that’s probably true lol

[KayJayQueue]

I don’t think we have 2 role blockers (1 town, 1 scum)

Isn’t it more likely it’s a scum role blocker and a town jail keeper? If Penguin or I were jailkept the night he checked me, he wouldnt’t get anything, right?

[KayJayQueue]

Yeah that sounds about right. Damn. I still think the claim isn’t on the level.

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I don’t think we have two role blockers and BlackStar claiming role blocker but not saying he blocked Penguin when I know that’s the only way Penguin didn’t get his check on me means someone else blocked him.

[KayJayQueue]

I know but I don’t think we have 2 role blockers. If BlackStar is role blocker I believe he is scum and lying about his blocks.

[KayJayQueue]

Who all has claimed VT?

[KayJayQueue]

Next question: do we believe town has a 4th PR?

[KayJayQueue]

I don’t know what everyone else believes but my gut is saying they did NOT nk

[KayJayQueue]

I’m never going to learn all this lingo lol my belief is that they purposely did not kill anyone last night.

[KayJayQueue]

Because you can claim to have role blocked Titus, your partner. She flips scum and everyone trusts you until the end and you win at 3.

[KayJayQueue]

Titus, Enchant (who is confirmed vanilla by Penguin), and me.

Also, Enchant is confirmed vanilla, not confirmed town.

[KayJayQueue]

Because you can claim to have role blocked Titus, your partner. She flips scum and everyone trusts you until the end and you win at 3.

Hu Tao was the only person who was suspicious of me so that doesn't seem like it would be necessary if I was scum. And again, why would I not include Penguin in my night actions if I was fake claiming? People would've been much more likely to believe me if I said that I did

To avoid a counterclaim if there did happen to be a town role blocker.

[KayJayQueue]

Who do you guess is her partner if you had to choose?

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Especially since she was fence sitting

Which fence?

[KayJayQueue]

Enchant, what do you think about Kay vs Brian. I'm suddenly torn. I thought the game was solved but there is a chance Kay could be scum.

I’m not seeing it

[KayJayQueue]

Is there any reason the roleblocker and rolestopper can't exist together?

You think we have 5 PRs? I don’t know how many are usually in 13 player games.

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I wanted to wait for her to show up, but I guess I might as well do it now. I roleblocked Titus last night.

VOTE: Titus

I think you should claim

Are there any modifiers to your role?

[KayJayQueue]

Enchant, what do you think about Kay vs Brian. I'm suddenly torn. I thought the game was solved but there is a chance Kay could be scum.

I’m not seeing it

Not seeing what

Why you think I could be scum

[KayJayQueue]

Alive

Spoiler:

Hu Tao - Rolestopper
Enchant - Vanilla
KayJayQueue - VT
Titus - VT
BlackStar - Roleblocker
Brian Skies - VT

Dead

Greeting,

Town Universal Backup Night 1 Friendly Neighbor

, Executed day 1
SmileyDude1,

Vanilla Townie

, Killed night 1
StraightFlush,

Vanilla Townie

, Executed day 2
JacksonVirgo,

Vanilla Townie

, Killed night 2
yessiree,

Mafia Goon

, Executed Day 3
Political Clout,

Town Reporter

, Killed night 2
PenguinPower

Town Vanilla Cop

, Executed day 3[/spoiler]

This is where we stand with claims and confirmed roles.

[KayJayQueue]

I messed up the formatting but you get the idea

[KayJayQueue]

I’ve looked at a few games and it looks like a usual mini normal had 3 mafia (1-2PRs), 6 VT, 4 town PRs. We have one too many town PR claims and one too many vanilla claims. This makes sense with the setup as the last two scum are obviously lying. The PR claims are probably true but one is just a scum PR. And one vanilla is lying and is either a goon or an unknown mafia PR.

[KayJayQueue]

Hu Tao has been saying all this time that there aren't 2 people with blocking abilities and she claimed VT before. Now that things are turning against Titus she completely changes her story and claims night actions that make both her and Titus look good. It couldn't be more obvious that she's lying

I’m staying open to this solve. I want more opinions though.

[KayJayQueue]

There won't be a role blocker and rolestopper in the same game here. It would be too swingy with our PRs that have flipped. My role is confirmed. So blackstar is scum.

Can you explain how your role is confirmed? What did I miss?

[KayJayQueue]

I’m kind of wondering now if I was wrong and BlackStar not claiming to roleblock Penguin gives him more credit as town. Hmm.

I honestly think the solve is Hu Tao/Titus or BlackStar/??? (I’m thinking my tinfoil theory about BlackStar and Titus being paired may be too convoluted and it makes just as much sense to accuse town here if he is scum)

I need more input though.

[KayJayQueue]

Penguins action n3 was confirmed blocked. He said so.

But you could’ve blocked him as scum role stopper, so confirming you are role stopper doesn’t confirm your alignment.

[KayJayQueue]

If we don’t get today’s vote correct, we just lose, right?

Does anyone have an idea of who would be BlackStar’s partner if he’s scum?

I think if it’s Hu Tao, it has to be Titus also.

[KayJayQueue]

I have another question, if we believe Hu Tao that Titus was supposed to be the kill. What do you think the reasoning for that kill is? Did everyone think Titus was for sure town? I know I didn’t.

[KayJayQueue]

N1 Kay
N2 PC
N3 Kay
N4 Titus

These are my targets. My role is confirmed since N3 there was no action on Kay.

Can you explain your reasoning for your choices each night?


Also - do you really think I could be bad this game? If you believe BlackStar is scum because of your role and his claim, do you think I am partnered with him?

[KayJayQueue]

Well that’s the thing, I also expected to die. I find it very odd that Titus would be targeted over both me and you.

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That is fair. Claims aside, who do you think was scum yesterday

I thought the last two were within: Penguin, BlackStar and Titus. I was surprised at the flip. But more surprised at the no kill at night.

[KayJayQueue]

That is fair. Claims aside, who do you think was scum yesterday

I thought the last two were within: Penguin, BlackStar and Titus. I was surprised at the flip. But more surprised at the no kill at night.

So if your biggest townread is clearing Titus, and Penguin is dead. Blackstar is all that's left

But before you claimed, I thought BlackStar was pulling a move to clear himself by getting us to vote Titus (scum partner). You say you clear Titus but if scum didn’t kill at night on purpose, then Titus isn’t clear, right? Your PR might just lose us the game if you are wrongly clearing Titus. But if we use this logic and clear Titus, when we get down to 3 and Titus is “clear”…well I just worry for that situation. Because if we vote BlackStar and he flips red, how are we going to determine his partner? (If he flips green, we just lose)

[KayJayQueue]

I’ve played with town!Hu before where she claimed VT day 1 but had a PR. I haven’t played with scum!Hu yet to know what’s different.

[KayJayQueue]

I made the case against yessiree the day StraightFlush was voted out and immediately voted him again the next day phase. I don’t see how I’d be a potential busser in this case.

[KayJayQueue]

My only mistake was thinking Penguin was partnered with him and his botched claim was the nail in the coffin. So, unfortunately it was more my fault that Penguin got flipped but I really believed it at that point.

[KayJayQueue]

Dannflor replaces Titus !

This is going to lose us the game if Titus is scum because Dann is too good and will inevitably talk me out of voting that way. If Titus is town, we win.

I hate this lol

[KayJayQueue]

BlackStar teammate?

oh it's probably you

Explain this please.

[KayJayQueue]

KJQ I don't have like a super solid reason to be town beyond vibes

I dunno, I think if you looked hard enough you could find some reasons lol

[KayJayQueue]

Unless you can think of an ultra strong PR. And even in that case Scum can't multitask. And because of this, Blackstar had to be the one to do the kill because of the claim. So if there was a scum goon it was likely BlackStar not Enchant. I just think mechanically he's town.

So it’s either Brian or Titus. If you townread me and thought Enchant was town due to vanilla result, and you think you have cleared Titus, wouldn’t you have immediately said the scum team was BlackStar/Brian?

[KayJayQueue]

I trust Dann and enchant to get it right tomorrow. Personally I think it's Brian.

RIP meeee lol

[KayJayQueue]

My current scumpool is yessiree, penguin, Titus and an outside maybe of BlackStar. I haven’t hidden these reads, I don’t think I’m being too tunnel-y on Titus.

Hmmmm

Tbh this is this most consistent I’ve ever been. I’m proud of that read lol

[KayJayQueue]

My current scumpool is yessiree, penguin, Titus and an outside maybe of BlackStar. I haven’t hidden these reads, I don’t think I’m being too tunnel-y on Titus.

Hmmmm

Tbh this is this most consistent I’ve ever been. I’m proud of that read lol

It was consistent. But if you're town you're gonna need to town it up for the other 2 tomorrow

I don’t know what more I could do to show that I’m town. I guess I can understand Dann feeling weird that I’ve been scumreading Titus since day 1 but…I don’t really know what I could do about that now.

[KayJayQueue]

It's just Blackstar and Brian. Eliminate one after the other imo

That was when you were still pretending to be VT though. I dunno. I want to believe you.

[KayJayQueue]

What about BlackStar not claiming to roleblock Penguin? Wouldn’t that make sense to claim if scum think everything out?

[KayJayQueue]

I wanted to wait for her to show up, but I guess I might as well do it now. I roleblocked Titus last night.

VOTE: Titus

I think you should claim

Of course the jailkeeper thinks the nk is scum if you are town

This was the only other reference of jail keeper.

[KayJayQueue]

I mean maybe Hu Tao should still say in case she is alien fakeclaiming but if Hu Tao is alien fakeclaiming, we just lost game so whatever

I don’t even know what this means lol

[KayJayQueue]

kind of want to actually read the full game

Do it!!!!

[KayJayQueue]

So if someone jail kept me the night penguin checked me, he still would’ve gotten his check going through?

See i definitely misinterpreted that role then.

[KayJayQueue]

Okay do me next lol

[KayJayQueue]

did jackson town read you

Yeah I believe he did.

[KayJayQueue]

im conflicted

Say more

[KayJayQueue]

I mean we could try to figure this out while we have 3 semi-confirmed townies alive

I’m open to talking through anything you want to focus on. Whatever will help. Because I’m extremely paranoid that I’ll be the cause of us losing because it’s likely I’m going to make the wrong decision here. And I don’t want that burden. Now I realize why I’m always left alive to the end. I either look sus enough to keep around or it’s obvious I’m going to screw up lol I need to get better at this

[KayJayQueue]

it would help me at least if you talked through more what you're thinking right now / where you're leaning

Well my biggest worry is that if Hu Tao is lying, we just lose here. And it’s still possible that she’s lying. I didn’t think she was scum originally but I don’t know. I’m second guessing myself. Jackson did say she was trying to pocket me early, maybe he was right.

[KayJayQueue]

Well I don’t think you’re very likely to want to help me when you’re currently in both of my solves lol

It’s either BlackStar/Titus or Hu Tao/Titus. Titus now being you. I don’t see Hu partnered with Brian. BlackStar…maybe but I don’t know. I have a tiny bit of hesitancy that Hu was overly pushing Enchant as confirmed town when he could easily be a goon…but maybe that’s paranoia.

[KayJayQueue]

Tinfoil hat time - BlackStar and Titus are teamed and this is to get us to trust BlackStar until end of game once Titus flips red.

This was my worry about the no-kill and BlackStar claim. I dunno. Maybe it’s stupid.

[KayJayQueue]

why don't you see Hu Tao as partnered with Brian

Honestly- I don’t know. I can’t keep this straight anymore. I thought I had a reason.

[KayJayQueue]

Well I don’t think you’re very likely to want to help me when you’re currently in both of my solves lol

I mean I am town so if you are town I need to get you to see me as such

so your worry is that scum intentionally no-killed to try to get one of black star or my slot to coast through end game?

Specifically BlackStar because the initial push was he role blocked you and there was no kill.