mini 819 - WWF Mafia: Over!

VP Baltar · Post Post #4 (isolation #0) » Fri Jul 10, 2009 12:35 am

Full Nelson: Locke Lamor

for failing at tags.

VP Baltar · Post Post #15 (isolation #1) » Fri Jul 10, 2009 6:41 am

Eye gouge: Don

for realz. Not reading the rules is anti-town. (I wonder if the vote method will ever get old in this game? Nah.)

VP Baltar · Post Post #17 (isolation #2) » Fri Jul 10, 2009 10:11 am

And massive hasn't read the rules either apparently. They clearly state not to use quotes.

VP Baltar · Post Post #20 (isolation #3) » Fri Jul 10, 2009 1:13 pm

@Fabian--he thought people were voting don for him "putting his vote at the end of the post", which wasn't the case. It showed that he was unaware of the no quote rule.

VP Baltar · Post Post #25 (isolation #4) » Sat Jul 11, 2009 3:42 am

In all seriousness, we need to get this game rolling as soon as possible because of the short deadline. Wagon on Don is a good idea. Kise would and Locke Lamora would also be good choices for attempting to extend the RVS with multiple random votes.

Also, because we can't quote I think it would be a good idea to include post numbers when discussing another persons statements.

The "Reading is for Chumps" holdcount

don_johnson (2) - Sotty7, VP Baltar
SpyreX (2) - massive, hambargarz
VP Baltar (2) - don_johnson, Locke Lamora

Debonair Danny DiPietro (1) - Kreriov
Locke Lamora (1) - VP Baltar
Sotty7 (1) - xxFabianxx
massive (1) - Kise
Kise (1) - Archon
Kreriov (1) - DDD

Archon (0)
hambargarz (0)
xxFabianxx (0)

Relaxing in the neutral corner:

SpyreX

With 12 wrestlers in the ring, it takes 7 to throw someone out.

VP Baltar · Post Post #35 (isolation #5) » Sun Jul 12, 2009 1:22 am

I think it's quite interesting that massive is flipping out over people voting others in the RVS for rules infractions. You have done zero scumhunting this game. So, why are you criticizing others for trying to move the game along?

Jumpkick to the head: Massive

VP Baltar · Post Post #38 (isolation #6) » Sun Jul 12, 2009 6:41 am

Do you think massive has acted scummy, Archon?

VP Baltar · Post Post #40 (isolation #7) » Sun Jul 12, 2009 7:52 am

I agree 100% with Sotty, people need to step up and start playing here because the deadline is not very far away. If you are lurking in this game, you are most likely scum.

VP Baltar · Post Post #52 (isolation #8) » Sun Jul 12, 2009 4:36 pm

What the hell is a hyper-drill?

Archon, care to explain why you want massive to claim when he isn't close to a lynch? What benefit would it be to the town?

Massive, I've been attempting to move this game out of the RVS and have placed two semi-serious votes now (eyeing a third on Archon)...what's your beef with that BROTHER?

VP Baltar · Post Post #54 (isolation #9) » Sun Jul 12, 2009 4:42 pm

Two of four down, Kise. Two to go.

VP Baltar · Post Post #63 (isolation #10) » Mon Jul 13, 2009 4:50 am

God I hate not being able to quote. Archon, explain the difference between your statements in post 55. Also, answer the question of what benefit the town would receive from a massive claim at this point.

Massive, lrn 2 read. Proactively asking questions and trying to move the game along with accusations is scumhunting.

VP Baltar · Post Post #67 (isolation #11) » Mon Jul 13, 2009 7:03 am

Ok, I think that is enough votes now. I believe he's at L-2. I know the deadline is short, but lets at least hear his reply before we force a claim.

VP Baltar · Post Post #69 (isolation #12) » Mon Jul 13, 2009 7:53 am

LMAO.

Don is clearly doing whatever he can to get attention from the crowd.

Bitch slap: Don Johnson

Flying elbowdrop: Massive

VP Baltar · Post Post #71 (isolation #13) » Mon Jul 13, 2009 8:31 am

Because I like to watch you squirm.

I'm definitely not distancing myself from an Archon lynch. Let the record show that I support it fully at this point. However, putting a player at L-1 before he answers pertinent questions days before deadline is a bad idea.

You complete overreaction to having my vote while trying to direct attention to Archon (a case I started) is hilariously scummy.

Our scumhunting styles may be different, but my question is this: when are we going to see yours?

VP Baltar · Post Post #73 (isolation #14) » Mon Jul 13, 2009 10:25 am

I assume you are refering to DDD.

I still need you to answer the question of what benefit the town receives by massive claiming when you asked him to. Answer in your next post Archon or die.

VP Baltar · Post Post #75 (isolation #15) » Mon Jul 13, 2009 10:33 am

DJ and Archon scumteam. You heard it here first.

The "Every vote has made me giggle so far, you guys kick ass" holdcount

Archon (4) - Locke Lamora, Kreriov, Sotty7, DDD

massive (3) - Kise, VP Baltar, Archon

VP Baltar (2) - massive, don_johnson

don_johnson (1) - xxFabianxx
Sotty7 (1) - SpyreX
xxFabianxx (1) - hambargarz

Debonair Danny DiPietro (0) -
Kreriov (0) -
SpyreX (0) -
Locke Lamora (0) -
Kise (0) -
hambargarz (0) -

Relaxing in the neutral corner:

None!

With 12 wrestlers in the ring, it takes 7 to throw someone out.

VP Baltar · Post Post #78 (isolation #16) » Mon Jul 13, 2009 11:24 am

Are you claiming scum Archon?

Are you a Jester?

VP Baltar · Post Post #80 (isolation #17) » Mon Jul 13, 2009 11:29 am

don't vote him until he answers my questions Fabian (or anyone else).

I've played with DJ before in Cowboy Bebop Mafia. We were scum together and he was more useful. I'm not sure what he is doing this game.

Re: Hambargarz--I have a theory about what he is getting at, but I think it's better not to reveal my thoughts just yet.

VP Baltar · Post Post #83 (isolation #18) » Mon Jul 13, 2009 11:49 am

What is your history with mafia Archon? Have you played on other sites before?

VP Baltar · Post Post #87 (isolation #19) » Mon Jul 13, 2009 2:37 pm

Archon can you link me one game where you were scum and one where you were town.

VP Baltar · Post Post #90 (isolation #20) » Mon Jul 13, 2009 3:56 pm

Apparently DJ has gotten so far into his dullard wrestler character that he is now acting it out in grammar fails. Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.

Ok, did a reread (which is pure lulz) and it seems DJ has some sort of post restriction. Let us try an experiement.

The Shocker: Don Johnson

In other news Locke Lamora is lurker scum.

VP Baltar · Post Post #107 (isolation #21) » Tue Jul 14, 2009 1:21 am

Ftr, I wasn't softclaiming. It was just the only wresting terminology I could think of. Don may be, I don't know.

Kise's setup speculation is unnecessary, as we aren't guaranteed that all those classes of characters are even in this game. We'll probably have a better idea after tonight.

lol@DDD speculating about Jesters. What goes around comes around.

In other news, LL is confirmed scum. Notice how once I called him on being lurker scum he pops in with a lame excuse about time zone differences. What the hell does that have to do with anything?He is today's target for sure if Archon's meta checks out.

Liontamer: Locke Lamora

VP Baltar · Post Post #110 (isolation #22) » Tue Jul 14, 2009 3:17 am

Alright, LL, I can see where you are coming from if that is the case because double posting is limited. I hadn't thought about it that way. I need to review your posts and see if this actually is the case.

@Kreriov-You are correct about Archon. It slipped my mind as I got distracted by DJ, but it definitely is suspicious.

ARCHON CLAIM IN YOUR NEXT POST.

re: DJ's hypo-softclaiming. I think we should probably stop talking about it now. It's not helping the town.

DJ, if you don't have a post restriction say, "I'm a little teapot short and stout", only in your next post without voting anybody.

VP Baltar · Post Post #112 (isolation #23) » Tue Jul 14, 2009 4:03 am

Ok, post restriction essentially confirmed. I haven't quite figured out the details, as there are some anomolous posts by DJ. The question now is judging his alignment.

Regardless, Archon claim and then decisions need to be made about today's lynch ASAP.

I think people need to start putting a little more effort into this game as well. I've seen a lot of sheeping along so far.

VP Baltar · Post Post #114 (isolation #24) » Tue Jul 14, 2009 4:24 am

I would like to hear Fabian's response to the roleclaim, asap.

VP Baltar · Post Post #116 (isolation #25) » Tue Jul 14, 2009 4:48 am

Yeah, those early posts by DJ stuck out to me as well, Sotty, because they don't necessarily fit with the format of his other posts.

VP Baltar · Post Post #120 (isolation #26) » Tue Jul 14, 2009 6:51 am

Still have yet to see actual scum hunting from massive.

Part of me actually believes Archon's claim, though I don't know if it would be a good idea to make anyone else claim today. Would like opinions from anyone else on this, as our deadline is rapidly approaching.

I don't appreciate Fabian continuing the role specualtion after I said it wasn't helping the town.

Locke Lamora needs to be checked out post haste when I get home from work to view his posting habits in correlation to his timezone.

I don't think considering Jesters is hurting town, but there are more important things to discuss in the immediate future, DDD. Please give us your thoughts on today's lynch.

VP Baltar · Post Post #127 (isolation #27) » Tue Jul 14, 2009 8:50 am

I believe it as well. I can think of two possible reasons why Kreriov might be having questions about it.

Gah, I hate to slap together a quick lynch on somebody, but we need to come to a concensus really quickly.

Everyone needs to post whether or not they think Archon should be lynched today following his claim if they haven't done so. If you don't think he should be lynched, who is your second choice.

Baltar says: I think Archon needs to be put aside for now and massive should be lynched today.

VP Baltar · Post Post #132 (isolation #28) » Tue Jul 14, 2009 10:39 am

Massive said: "As for Archon's roleclaim: My initial reaction was it was legit, but remembered the sample PM announcing the possibility of fake claims. I don't think Ricky Steamboat is a jobber. So I don't really believe Archon's roleclaim. Fabian's reason for believing it is probably similar to my initial reason for believing it, but I'm thinking that the mod would take that into consideration. Metagaming the mod, to be sure, but it happens all the time. "

So you are saying it is a possible fakeclaim given by the mod, but doesn't fit with the name that the mod gave? This is ridiculous.

As far as why I asked Fabian, I don't think my reasons are relevant at this time.

VP Baltar · Post Post #134 (isolation #29) » Tue Jul 14, 2009 12:30 pm

I've seen it Archon. It's not enough to lynch on, imo, considering lots of people have been sheeping today.

Sotty, which post are you referring to where Archon was "distancing from a potential massive lynch"?

VP Baltar · Post Post #145 (isolation #30) » Wed Jul 15, 2009 1:12 am

Alright, after much deliberation, I think it might be a good idea to just lynch Archon today. Part of me does believe his claim, but he did act scummy and I don't think trying to ram a lynch through on somebody else at the last minute is going to be helpful to the town in the end.

Furthermore, I think massclaim, when it comes later in this game, is going to be extremely helpful to the town and potentially outting PRs right now is a bad idea.

Kise, how the hell does Spyrex strike you as odd? He hasn't hardly posted in this game because he has been travelling.

Anyhow, on with the beatings.

Chokeout in the corner: Archon

VP Baltar · Post Post #150 (isolation #31) » Wed Jul 15, 2009 4:42 am

I don't think we need to prove it immediately. Perhaps the DJ situation will resolve itself overnight. He has numerous inconsistencies in his posts...so it is likely untrue that he has a PR.

I wouldn't be opposed to lynching him tomorrow if necessary.

The "Late Ass" holdcount

Archon (4) - Locke Lamora, Sotty7, DDD, VP Baltar

Locke Lamora (2) - xxFabianxx, SpyreX

don_johnson (1) - Kise
Debonair Danny DiPietro (1) - hambargarz
massive (1) - Archon
VP Baltar (1) - massive
Kise (1) - don_johnson
SpyreX (1) - Kreriov

Sotty7 (0) -
xxFabianxx (0) -
Kreriov (0) -
hambargarz (0) -

Relaxing in the neutral corner:

None!

With 12 wrestlers in the ring, it takes 7 to throw someone out.

VP Baltar · Post Post #153 (isolation #32) » Wed Jul 15, 2009 5:58 am

As soon as you realize you're lining yourself up for a lynch tomorrow.

VP Baltar · Post Post #155 (isolation #33) » Wed Jul 15, 2009 6:49 am

You're not contributing. at all.

For instance, what reasoning do you have for suspecting anyone on your list?

VP Baltar · Post Post #157 (isolation #34) » Wed Jul 15, 2009 7:20 am

If you don't have a posting restriction, why were you seemingly trying to fake one. I specifically asked you to prove you didn't have one and you refused. Explain.

VP Baltar · Post Post #159 (isolation #35) » Wed Jul 15, 2009 7:49 am

who said I was "confirmed babyface"?

It is interesting that you played along with the PR thing and now that people decided they aren't buying it, you suddenly have plenty to say.

Also, there are no text walls in this game, so no one is discounting your suspicions because you didn't post one. No one has. You haven't said anything and simply OMGUSing tons of people isn't scum hunting. It's being useless.

VP Baltar · Post Post #162 (isolation #36) » Wed Jul 15, 2009 8:10 am

@don-You should answer players' question DJ because it's pro-town to do so? regarding your voting: you very well may have had some serious votes in there, but when they are buried in a mountain of OMGUS votes, how is anyone else supposed to tell? You haven't really laid down any suspicions "solid", other than you seem to take some issue with me questioning you. It's quite telling to watch you squirm so much suddenly.

VP Baltar · Post Post #165 (isolation #37) » Wed Jul 15, 2009 10:32 am

SPYREX IS ON V/LA. I thought that was made clear.

VP Baltar · Post Post #170 (isolation #38) » Wed Jul 15, 2009 3:26 pm

Right now, I don't think we have time to have someone else claim and weigh the merits of that claim. I suggest we just follow through the the Archon lynch right now and garner what info we can from it tomorrow.

NOT ELIMINATING SOMEONE TODAY IS NOT AN OPTION.

VP Baltar · Post Post #183 (isolation #39) » Thu Jul 16, 2009 2:15 am

Happy scumday, massive!

I'm not seeing any substantial reason for a hambargarz lynch today.

Lock Lamora lynch would likely have to happen without a claim because I'm sure he wouldn't be checking in before today's deadline.

Archon lynch is what it is.

I'd prefer the Archon lynch right now just because I think it is the proper play for town, but I would back a deadline lynch of LL over a no lynch because he has indeed acted scummy and hasn't really been scumhunting at all this game.

So, my vote remains for now, but I will be checking in regularly throughout the day to see if I need to switch it to LL.

VP Baltar · Post Post #193 (isolation #40) » Thu Jul 16, 2009 7:27 am

As great as the flavor is in this game, I recommend stating in clear language what the deadline is so there is no dispute.

Good idea, pencil neck. Now get out of my office.

VP Baltar · Post Post #196 (isolation #41) » Thu Jul 16, 2009 7:58 am

We really need to agree on a lynch and soon. Waiting until an hour or two before deadline and counting on someone to hammer is a horrible idea. If the people on LL are absolutely not going to change to Archon, then speak up because I will switch.

Anyone not voting for one of this two is not helping town, as these seem to be the only viable lynches at this time.

VP Baltar · Post Post #198 (isolation #42) » Thu Jul 16, 2009 8:41 am

I agree with DJ that Kreriov's statements are suspect.

VP Baltar · Post Post #395 (isolation #43) » Fri Jul 31, 2009 11:36 am

That Kreriov lynch was horrendous. I can't believe people let Locke live that long. Booooo.

And boo to Sotty for killing me N1. I was having fun.

Great flavor porkens and it really showed that posting restrictions can work and actually benefit a game. The game turned out really swingy there, but I guess there isn't much you could have done to counteract that.

VP Baltar · Post Post #400 (isolation #44) » Sat Aug 01, 2009 2:42 am

How did you have us pegged as tag team partners? I guess I wasn't subtle enough with my breadcrumbing on day 1.

I was actually in the same boat as you guys in worrying about Ham being scum. I went into a our quick topic N1 pretty skeptical and trying to get him to spill his guts about his role. That's why I never gave him the post where I breadcrumbed he was my partner. In hindsight, I guess I should have.

I was trying to buddy him as well in case he was scum, so his team wouldn't kill me over night. Had I survived N1 I might have outted him as my tag partner and strung him up D2 on that suspicion alone.

VP Baltar · Post Post #403 (isolation #45) » Sat Aug 01, 2009 6:10 am

@Sotty-yeah, heh. I don't know if Ham caught on or not that I was considering him to possibly be scum. He seemed pretty trusting that I was town.

VP Baltar · Post Post #405 (isolation #46) » Sat Aug 01, 2009 12:50 pm

Don brings up a good point I forgot to mention. I was only skimming along, but I was completely in the dark that there were two heel factions. There probably should have been some kind of differentiation in the flips so the town would have at least had a clue of what was going on as the game progressed.

VP Baltar · Post Post #412 (isolation #47) » Mon Aug 03, 2009 1:23 am

Neither pair of tag team partners were confirmed, if that is what you are getting at Krer.

VP Baltar · Post Post #416 (isolation #48) » Mon Aug 03, 2009 8:20 am

As I said before, i think the post restriction was great. Perhaps allowing quoting, but adding those words into the total word count for the post would be good...especially if you go with a similar idea in a large game. In a long game it would no doubt be challenging to follow someone's train of thought without quoting.