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Post Post #5 (isolation #0) » Sat Oct 03, 2009 3:47 am

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Ehm, why not?

Vote Blood Covenent
because im a grammar nazi on the sly. :D
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Post Post #18 (isolation #1) » Sat Oct 03, 2009 6:14 am

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Unvote Blood Covenent


Explain to me why you wanted to skip the RVS. even though its possible to gleam information from it.

Secondly. Why call for a bandwagon and then FoS myself, Mufasa and Lowell for obliging you. ;)

@ Lowell.

I do hope you'll be more active in this game?

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Post Post #19 (isolation #2) » Sat Oct 03, 2009 6:18 am

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What!? Blood Covenent you bastard!

You voted me!

ps. someone tell me stumpytheelephantman is joking... :shock:
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Post Post #25 (isolation #3) » Sat Oct 03, 2009 6:25 am

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What?! 2votes. Dramonic why? :(

Lol. In case any is wondering...
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Confirm vote, Lowell
I have my reasons. :D

@DeathNote. Why risk BC like this, for all you know he could have a power role. Is it worth such a risk? :?
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Post Post #33 (isolation #4) » Sat Oct 03, 2009 6:49 am

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@Dramonic
I feel prejudiced against. *sniff* But i will hear nothing against Empire of the Sun! They are from Perth, therefore they are great. :D

@reality fan
It was just a simple out. If you think i bore witness to some juicy internet mud slinging bitch fight gossip, then im afraid your mistaken. :lol:

@BM/stumpy the elephant man
Drat. :(
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Post Post #36 (isolation #5) » Sat Oct 03, 2009 7:08 am

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Im an expressive person, so sue me.

Ill try to keep it down however if it bothers you.
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Post Post #38 (isolation #6) » Sat Oct 03, 2009 7:20 am

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Nah. Most of my games are currently at a standstill. Its nice to have a game thats now full of life. There is nothing wrong with being friendly if your genuinely happy in both your cyber life as well as the personal but forgive me for not going into that. Its the RVS. i believed normal to joke and be over the top no?

Besides. Seriousness is to be loathed at times.
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Post Post #41 (isolation #7) » Sat Oct 03, 2009 7:33 am

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Ooh burn....

Ftr. i dont mind being refered to as Snow.
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Post Post #47 (isolation #8) » Sat Oct 03, 2009 9:56 am

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Qft? lol. well then, iunno! :D lol. refer to me as SW and Saber... well as Saber. That's what i call you anyway, hopefully you dont mind?

I delibrately chose this avatar before this game but its a he guys.

My god, anyonewho hasnt heard of Empire of the Sun yet should be shot! :lol:
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Post Post #48 (isolation #9) » Sat Oct 03, 2009 9:58 am

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My Milked Eek wrote:
Snow White wrote:Besides. Seriousness is to be loathed at times.
If you say that, then why did you stop using emoticons? :o
Because it obviously has irrated you so i have ceased using them whilst talking to you.

A comprimise of sorts, unless you wish me to stop using them altogether?
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Post Post #51 (isolation #10) » Sat Oct 03, 2009 10:21 am

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Ah then i must have misunderstood you by post 34. This be ok now.

Empire of the Sun is a band. Nothing to do with the game whatsover just idle chit chattering. But frankly I think we should get off the subject of my avatar.
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Post Post #55 (isolation #11) » Sat Oct 03, 2009 11:34 am

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@ Saber. How are competing bandwagons useful for town? We should examine everyone as equally as possible instead of concentrating on two random individuals to avoid what could be an inevitable mislynch.

Unvote, Vote Saberwolf
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Post Post #58 (isolation #12) » Sat Oct 03, 2009 11:57 am

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dramonic wrote:That avatar looks like some guy out of a very kinky gay porn.
Recalling from recollection dramonic? ;)

@Saber. Please answer the question instead of stating the obvious.
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Post Post #75 (isolation #13) » Sun Oct 04, 2009 4:13 am

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Yay, someone rational!
Wickedestjir wrote:
Snow White wrote: What!? Blood Covenent you bastard!

You voted me!
What do you care?
I didnt at the time. It was meant as a joke from Mafia97.

My Milked Eek
Where is my Appeal to Emotion? Just for the record i do it quite a bit as scum and town but i fail to see where i used it.

Saber
You gave me a roundabout answer without actually giving me an answer. Im not refering to your vote on me, i am refering to the actual purpose of your vote.

Please answer why you find concentrating on two people who are probably most likely to be town better than spreading the wings and examining everyone equally?

(no one get cute, ive yet to see a RVS where one of the bandwagons is scum)

What are your reasons for pressuring me btw. Saberwolf? Because im just, here?
-First it was a joke of avatar avoidance. (If anyone has any questions as to how great EoS are i will oblige btw) No vote.
-Notably, an attractive wagon at 3, why not back track and put me up to 4votes just in case it takes off with the excuse that BW's are useful to the town.
-Now OMGUS. When i was asking you a serious question.
-etc.?

dramonic

I didnt call your exes kinky. ;)

Nook

Where exactly do you see these two bandwagons going exactly? All votes contribute to a lynch.

Comfortable with my vote atm.
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Post Post #83 (isolation #14) » Sun Oct 04, 2009 5:03 am

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My Milked Eek wrote:
Snow White wrote:@ Saber. How are competing bandwagons useful for town? We should examine everyone as equally as possible instead of concentrating on
two random individuals
to avoid what could be an
inevitable mislynch
.

Unvote, Vote Saberwolf
Bolded added for emphasis.
Is it not true?

In regards to Lowell... I havent liked how Sanjay has answered Lowells question. But i like my vote on SW for now. (the other SW) jk.

I think its an apt question on Wicked's part. The game has hardly begun, it might be a slip on Lowell's part, it could be quite innocent. Is not something to consider so serious but enough to put a slight pressure on.
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Post Post #121 (isolation #15) » Mon Oct 05, 2009 6:31 am

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The hell? Obviously joking is not allowed in this very serious of games.

1. Showing emotion is not prohibited. I wasnt taking the votes very seriously until the past few posts and wheni made use of smileys they are for funsies.
2. On defending BC. Its a fairly logival question to DeathNote. I wanted to see what he would reply and perhaps get discussion started which is good.
3. I voted BC because he asked. I wanted to see what he would say to it and votes were piled on. This was beyond my control.
4. I have just finished a game with Lowell where he relentlessly lurked his way into his own lynch apart from being innately scummy in what he did post. I unvoted BC and revoted Lowell (who i had just noticed was in this game) to get a reaction and some banter going as the game we had been in proved rather fun.
5. NO. You got voted because i am finding you ever more infuriating. And i will soon compile a small case of things i do not like about you this game Saber. My vote was used for pressure because i felt your vote on me was unjust after
Saber wrote: Avatar avoidance = scum! :P
What i considered to be clearly a joke then followed with what i then considered quite a serious vote.
Saber wrote:
Vote Snow White
Because 2competing BW's are useful for town IMO
or something to the same effect.
Saber wrote:
Snow White wrote: (no one get cute, ive
yet
to see a RVS where one of the bandwagons is scum)
trying to convince us that randomly landing on scum the first day never happens.
I have NEVER said "i have NEVER seen a RVS where one of the BW are scum" I said i have YET to see one. Do not twist my words Saber.

Frankly, why are you holding BC to being scummy when clearly what he wrote he wrote as a joke. Is your humorous missing?

Lastly, ill do a very serious re read within today and post up tomorrow what i believe has been noteworthy to date. Not only on Saber but on everyone thus far with some credible input.
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Post Post #123 (isolation #16) » Mon Oct 05, 2009 7:28 am

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My vote is staying because im infuriated.
Arrogance is scummy. I feel as though im being hunted and i dont expect that this early in the game from someone supposed to be town.

Also the way he placed his vote on me was scummy imho. Ill elaborate soon.
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Post Post #145 (isolation #17) » Wed Oct 07, 2009 4:11 am

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Delay due to volunteer work and being elected to school council. (in case there are doubts, see Return to Smalltown Y) Currently catching up.

@Sanjay.
Sanjay wrote: Could you explain your reasoning for considering arrogance a scumtell?

Simply it means in my mind anyway, one is concentrating hard on one individual without examining the rest. I find it anti town not to explore other players ideas and concentrating on one, sole individual to get them lynched. I cant call it pro town.
Sanjay post 128 wrote: Snow White, how serious do you think the people who jumped on BC's wagon were about their vote?
Hm. Im not quite sure, i done so in jest but when the votes began to topple in on him i was quite unsure. Serious may be the wrong word.... opportunistic? I'd have to do a reread.(im in school atm) But i will get back to you on that.

@Saber
Saber wrote: NEVER = YET
Do you have a dictionary at home?

The definition of "NEVER" imho is soemthing that is impossible to happen in any given space of time. It will NEVER happen.

"YET" being the word which leaves open the chance that yes, this event may happen, but i have not seen it occur to date.

You HAVE twisted my words.

@My Milked Eek.
Why am i worthy of presusre?
My Milked Eek wrote: lol.
So everyone who lies back and watches the game is town?
"Supposed to be town"?
No. What i meant by this is i dont see town being so aggressive in the space of what was 4 pages, to seriously consider someone scum.
My Milked Eek wrote: Are you saying you assumed Saber to be town? Why is that?
Well im not psychic with any preconcieved visions of who may or may not be scum. Frankly when i go into a game everyone starts with a scum level of zero. It builds from there depending on peoples interactions, thoughts and their votes. Do you not think?

@Mr. Swauve, see the post in reply to Sanjay. I am not illiterate. I will always returned to any posts raised about me.

Oh lord i was stating yes i was annoyed at Saber because i saw no valid reason for his vote considering he'd just made a joke about me being scum and then voted me for a "competeing bandwagon" which i find as anti town. If whoever wants to interpret that as OMGUS. So be it.

*Bell is after going. Do not fear, Ill reply to the rest when i get home.

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Post Post #147 (isolation #18) » Wed Oct 07, 2009 5:54 am

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saberwolf wrote:Does anyone else find it amusing/sad that shetells me to go look it up in the dictionary, then proceeds to give me her own definition of the word....all you're doing is whining and bitching.
Irony.

I gave it how i meant it to be interpretted it. Like most people i assumed would interpret it, you were the one to pick it out and if you plan to argue it as a point against me i will defend myself against it. But people may read it as they may.

I dont believe im being all whiny and bitchy. But if i am then if someone would like to point this out i will happily replace out.

back to the regularly scheduled activities.


@Santos. I voted Lowell randomly because of our last game together he lurked absymally as scum. Id vote him but my vote is now on saberwolf.

@Blood Covenent.
[quote="BC] Why would scum want to get themselves lynched? [/quote] It wasnt a question of you getting lynched. Its a question of you voting themselves, its a good way to get conversation started and for fingers to point at those who do vote for you in retrospect. It can be used as town or scum. But imho null tell. [/quote]

I voted you first so i will answer the question posed
BC wrote: All who are voting me solely on me voting myselfis there a difference between RVS voting myself to get discussion going, or me self-voting when I am being pressured, and am close to a lynch (obviously self voting out of frustration).
im not sure what your asking here but yes, the big difference here is that at the start of Day1 when you vote yourself you are not in fact robbing the town of a potential town. Voting yourself day1 will instigate conversation whereas hammering yourself well stops discussion cause well your dead.

In regard to my voting of you it was a joke. I did not expect as many votes as you got to accumulate and were i later than second i would not have voted you. But thats all just wifom really. It was the RVS and i was not taking it too seriously, unfortunately.

I have read the famous Kubrick. And i thought you turned cocky when you were revealed as cop. However my memory could be flawed but it was a gg. Interesting.

In regard to my annoyance on Saber. Im willing to leave it behind until i can distinguish is it his attitude or his actions that have me ... unsettled. My vote rests with him atm because frankly id like to do a reread of the topic to date anger subsided

@Sanjay
Sanjay wrote: I thought you were inviting a wagon on yourself to see how people react. It seemed kind of odd that you would then automatically turn around and cast suspicion on all the people that were helping you out.
who did you think BC was going to point the finger at?

@Wicked.
Wicked wrote: For some reason i thought saber's vote for Snow White was random
saberwolf post 59 wrote: my vote was to see if any reactions occured. Also, if you happen to be scum and I start to tilt the BW your way, then it would be interesting to note what happens if the opposing BW is a scum or town one, and what scum do to prevent their member from being lynched. If I feel you are town or don't think the BW is worth pursuing, I can always take my vote off later.
Quite a serious reason behind it all imo.

I'd like to say im a fairly unppredictable scummer. There have been games ive played resoundingly well, there have also been more recently games ive played miserably at. All my information is in my wiki. Ive only been here a few months. So, not to sound big headed, im still learning.

Pressure was part of it. To show that i wanted an answer i added a vote. If he had answered it satisfyingly without getting into insults i may have removed it. But whats done is done.

@Almighty bob. BloodCovenent garnered a lot more votes than i did in order to warrant a FoS. No?

Im not aware of anything particularily that warrants such hounding. Maybe its because ivee never been one in question on day1.

In terms of OMGUS. You believe it never should be done? Its neither helpful to town or scum? Then why not use it?

I ave said i have not liked sabers actions toward myself, i do not expect such actions from town so early. This is not to say that i am certain saber is scum. Im not. But that i have not to date liked his actions. In regard to where my vote is, where do you suggest me putting it? Unvoting means i vote myself. I for one am not enticed to do such a thing.

@nook. Your vote, please tell me is random?

I think thats it. So im off to do my reread. Post tomorrow or the day after with scumlists.

@Mod. Potential V/LA friday, hopefully i will get a post in before i go to Mayo. Will be gone all day Saturday and maybe Sunday, friends 21st followed by inevitable hangover and bus ride home.
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Post Post #213 (isolation #19) » Mon Oct 12, 2009 1:16 pm

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I realise i have been gone a few days, a very eventful weekend. will post asap. Wed by latest.
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Post Post #288 (isolation #20) » Sat Oct 17, 2009 11:12 am

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status report: middle of reread. Page 8.

symptoms: headache, sleep deprivation.

Post soon.
unvote Saberwolf, Vote Lowell
I was being rash and probably stupid. Rereading afresh, Saberwolf reads townie. Ill admit i acted stupid in some regards. Full details upcomming.
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Post Post #291 (isolation #21) » Sat Oct 17, 2009 11:52 am

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lol. No other reason. He's inactive and far away enough from a lynch for me to be comfortable voting him.

At that i think ive seven votes...

@Mod, votecount please?


lol. you stop that Saber! :oops: :lol: but thanks. Better thaan EoS (but we're not getting back into that! :D)

Everythings wrote up on paper but my eyes have glazed over to the point where me even trying to analyze page 12 is going to end up *waffle, waffle, waffle*

First thing tomorrow. Ehm yah, anyone who votes me before i have my reread up should be treated like scum imho. Especially if im hammered. Seeing as im like only 2votes away from my lynch. Eep!
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Post Post #311 (isolation #22) » Sun Oct 18, 2009 9:54 am

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Okay. Just for the record i am currently writing up.
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Post Post #312 (isolation #23) » Sun Oct 18, 2009 11:48 am

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Okay. If anyone has any questions on this shoot. I went through this page by page. For anyone wondering yes, i do ask odd questions but i get more of a feel for who the innocent are more so than scum in mafia. And anything i do ask i try to judge on the replies given. Get opinions and such. Im weird. Period. Please just bare with me.

Lowell. With a fourth vote on BloodCovenent i thought this was opportunistic. More or less for the fact of third on RVS wagon is always in my eyes a bit iffy no matter how many people there are. Anyway! What i REALLY didnt like was MME's fifth vote on BC AFTER BC fos'd myself, Mufasa and Lowell (in the order we followed his vote)

Cookie puts on a sixth vote. Why was this?

BC unvotes himself and votes for me for "starting" the bandwagon.

Bob adds his vote to BC. Why not just state your point against BC so he could explain? What was the need for a sixth vote on BC? Five votes is enough pressure is it not?

I was nervous about a BC wagon so i jokingly unvoted Lowell. I thought he would be a good choice because in the last game we had together he lurked as Godfather. It was a friendly game with lots of jokes so i thought i'd carry it through... unfortunately didnt work so well. lol.

DeathNote puts BC back up at 6votes. Again. What was the necessity for this DN?

I ask DN asks "I wonder if anyone would be brave enough to hammer when the time comes... " or something to the same extent. And when i ask "@DeathNote. Why risk BC like this, for all you know he could have a power role. Is it worth such a risk?" He replies "Meh... he is still four away so i am not worried..." And yet you were talking about BC being hammered when the time comes? So im confused, did you intend that someone would hammer him or didnt you?
(Anyone who wants to give me slack for suggesting someone has a power role its always a possiblity and i for one would like all power roles alive as long as possible)

MME finds my use of emoticons noteworthy. All i can say is i was on a happy vibe. But ive quit using them now. He votes Snow White. Jumping off the BC wagon. Which i like somewhat.

I liked Saber's post 40 vote on Mufasa. I feel its dignifed enough but not as noteworthy as MME or Cookies vote. Has Mufasa answered to that actually? Someone gave him an answer of he seemed enthusiastic to get things started but i dont think he's elaborated on it himself has he?

Snow White and Dramonic talk EoS
MME and Cookie ask about EoS.
Snow White says we need to get off the subject of the avatar.
Saber jokes "Avatar avoidance = Scum"

45minutes and 1 vote count later Saber votes Snow White saying that competeing bandwagons are good for town.
I enquire why and accompany it with a vote, trying to show im being serious-dont think i stated this clearly however.

MrSwauve joins.

I disliked Nook answering someone else question but he had a fair point.

Dislike MME's attempt at verifying a vote on Snow White. Initially voted over use of emoticons, he is now happy voting me due to additional offenses of AtE and OMGUS. Admittedly I do use AtE quite alot. Its not the first time someones tried to use it against me. But for arguements sake ill post a list of other games when ive been town and used it too. It just comes naturally im afraid. Dramaqueen, but not normally in the sense of "if you lynch me you'll regret it". My AtE all tend to have a dramatised point.

Snow White attepmts to scumhunt post 75 and instead her post is strawmaned on "I've yet to see an RVS where one of the BandWagons is scum) Someone gave their definition as though i was keeping an eye out for one, i guess you can kinda say i do. I read over past games in my spare time, mostly theme games like Kubrik mafia, Twilight mafia, Family Guy mafia, Betrayal House mafia. So yah, thats the best defense i can give there.

MME post 91 states he likes the position of Saber's vote on Snow White but that there is poor reasoning behind it. (With his own vote on me.) Why would you say that there is poor reason to a wagon and then back it? Do you feel this lynch is the correct one? Would you be happy to see me lynched?

Snajay says he finds Mufasa's vote town. But im wondering if he's acquainted with the theory that the 3/4 vote on a player is often scum? I dont know. Just for the record however in any given game i find the fourth and fifth votes are often unnecessary in an RVS.

The general consensus by page 4 is that Snow White has been misunderstood.

Saber's explanation of a FoS on Mufasa makes sense. I had interpretted what Mufasa had wrote as "Saber is voting me becuase it is normal for him to do so without reason" when in fact if its only been twice with good reason i find his statement redundant and + scum points to Mufasa for implying Saber votes him "in every game".

Mr Swauve claims to have eni-minee-minee-moe'd his way to voting for Sanjay. I did check this out too like Sanjay and yes it does land on Sanjay. He avoids the SW/BC bandwagon. And his explaination in post 106 for doing so checks out. Saying he personally seen no one of interest.

I liked Saber's post 113 which i considered scumhunting but then he goes and twists my words. Which i found highly suspect.

Builds a case on me post 116.

I state i was infuriated, which, i was cause i felt my words were being twisted.

Almighty Bob votes for Snow White.

Disliked MrSwauve voting me. He seemed easily persuaded once someone had made a solid case on me adding his own point of my use of a form of OMGUS.

I like Santos's vote on Lowell and am in agreeance.
Santos post 130 wrote: 1) Not a random vote
2) I am picking on a quiet random voter
3) I have a gut feeling he's the quiet scum of the group

Its a little suspicious seeing Snow White go after Lowell as well. Scum partners? Its possible, but purely speculation atm. I won't forget her vote on him earlier.
However i'd like to point out im not scum with Lowell or anyone for that matter.

BC makes giant post to make up for lost time. Very welcomed and good points. In regards to me jumping mindlessly on. I think your a perfectly apt player and were trying to get the game started. Unusal play but understandable. Hence the "ehm... why not?" I did expect a FoS but as the first one on i didnt expect such a heavy one. I'd have looked at the third vote on personally. But that is me. Can i ask you a question however BC? Would you have been just as inquisitive as to my motives if i had voted Lowell off the bat? Or would i have then been avoiding discussion in your eyes?
BC is calm in the face of SW wars.
Disliked Wicked's implication that BC had self claimed scum when he voted to get discussion started.
FoS Sanjay
on BC's points
Sanjay wrote: I get somewhat of a town vibe from Mufasa...I think his frustration with BloodCovenent seems townish to me.
in regard to this
Mufasa post 6 wrote: ya why not we all love to train choo chooo vote: Blood Covenent
And then in contrast to this frustraation that Mufasa has according to Sanjay. Sanjay then backtracks with
Sanjay wrote:Mufasa's vote looks pro-town to me because to me it reads like "weeeee, let's bandwagon"
Explanation from Sanjay post 137 imho does not add up simply because the post he refers to that Mufasa sounds frustrated seems to be in response to DeathNotes "I wonder will anyone be brave enough to hammer when the time comes." Mufasa replies "I dont know. BloodCovenent might rip our heads off and uhm... yahh.. " to me that sounds slightly laid back. No? Mind you i can always be wrong with tese sort of things.

Serious contribution by Wicked post 139.

I dislike SolemnJ's appearence only when he is mentioned and his unco-operation to contribute. Scum lurker?

Dramonic makes a good point of SW's leaving each other alone. lol.

Both BC and Snow White have now five votes.
Sanjay wrote:I dont know why BC had to point the finger anywhere and if he was going to, how much help is it to put a FoS on all 3 of you?
Granted. I know this may seem hypocritical on my part. But i would have waited a bit longer. Fraankly i wasnt suspicious of Mufasa but Lowell's third vote had me a little WTF. I think Lowell, MME, Cookie and DeathNote deserve a lot more attention than thus accredited for their votes on BC. It seems that we are only concentrating on the first 2 people to vote BC and forgetting the others who had put BC alot nearer to a lynch.

@Wicked. Could you review what it is about me you find scummy. From your postss however i find you naturally scummy from games such as the Twillight mafia. but fairly town read from your 154 post.

156 Wicked votes me. I feel i should probably address this. You find the terms "Simply in my mind anyway... i cant call it pro town" - the bolded parts you didnt like. What is there not to like? I have my own mind. I speak it.

"The yet implies you will be looking at more games" Well apart from reading mafia in my spare time i do intend to play more. I read games i have an interest in or that are reputed to be good such as Kubrik and Twilight.

Blowing things out of proportion frustrates me. In my past game as town i frequently turn suspicion to the accuser instead of the accusee. Thiss game has proved different as im in the light and cant see any signs of a glimmer of doubt as to my alignment. I will however live with this for however longer.

I dislike your jump and it is noted Wicked.

"Why do you have a problem voting for yourself" - Wicked. Well were i to do so now i'd be L-1 giving any scum left the window to jump me. D:

FoS Wicked
for listing 3 points of Dramonic which are basically imo the same. You tell Dramonic to give opinions without specifying what it is you would like his opinions on. What opinions of the game to date would you like?

Newbscum. Were i to pick two words to describe me. Calculating and Manipulative.
Saber wrote: Tends to get angry and defensive when voted for more so than the typical townie
How do typical townies in your opinion act? Sure im a little defensive, i think my votecount now qualifies me to be so. *sad face*

How do you think my play has differed from Caboose/Sepharim's day night mafia. Or has it at all?

@Mufasa. You changed your stance very quickly. First you ask why am i scummy. As though waiting for someone to provide you with an updated reason to vote me.
FoS Mufasa

Mufasa post 162 wrote:Could someone justify for me why Snow white is a better lynch candidate than bloodcovenant in one sentence?
Mufasa post 167 wrote:but ya I agree that Snow White is more scummier because we have seen more from her we need more actions from bloodcovenant
Mufasa post 170 wrote:Whats wrong with being more talkative saberwolf it makes it so you dont have an easy reason to lynch me, but in all seriousness if BloodCovenant doesn't post today I am voting for Snow White
I dont know... they just dont seem right to me.

@Wicked.
Mufasa wrote:Could someone justify for me why Snow White is a better lynch candidate than bloodcovenent in one sentence?
Wicked wrote: Snow White is using bad logic
Coroner's report. Snow White. Lynched using bad logic Day1.

I struggle to get a read of you Wicked. I know from Twilight i read you scummy anyway but just when i think your scum you appear to give some breathing room questioning why other people think the way you think which confuses me.
unFoS
i guess for now. But i second your queries on Mufasa.

Wicked votes Cookie. While you say things in the RVS are often blown out of proportion you critisize Cookie for not examining saber's points he has against me? :S

Needless to say i agree that i see little justification in the votes ive accumulated. But ive explained myself now as best i can and can only hope it helps clear me somewhat in the eyes of town.

@Wicked
Cookie wrote:
Wicked wrote: I see townies do it too, to try defending themselves.
What allignment do you think would be more likely to do that?
What am i meant to do sit back and hope no one notices the accumulating votes on me? Townie or scum i wouldnt want that!

@Saber. Your catching "dump slips". Obviously but i dont expect you to believe it.
Why would myself and BC be scumbuddies?
I like how you now ask questions to everyone. +town points.
Non Snow White connections? - Lurkers. Id consider myself fairly friendly to just about everyone.

@Dramonic. I dislike the SolemnJ wagon. He's an inactive. He should be replaced if anything else. Why not ask for his replacement instead of voting him?

*copy, paste and save! Because my laptop has an irrating habit of shutting itself down randomly and ive gone too long without saving. D:*

@Saber could you care to refresh your points against me? (bulletpoints please)

Dramonic introducing Sanjay to ISO.

Confusion between Sanjay and SolemnJ

@AlmightlyBob
Post 218 wrote: How do you play as scum?
I believe i already covered this. Im providing a link at the bottom of this post to one of my games as fully fledged scum. ie. in a team, communicating.

@ MME. If you are voting for me of AtE alone then Ill be provdiding links where i use AtE in other games as town according to other players to show its just my norm. If you want to policy lynch me then that is a different matter i hope we dont need to go into. My post "Is it not true?"in your words
MME post 219 wrote: she is asking me if the two competing bandwagons aren't leading to a mislynch. Thus, continuing the AtE.
has been misinterpretted.
I wrote wrote:
We should examine everyone as equally as possible instead of concentrating on two random individuals to avoid
what could be
an inevitable mislynch.
Please do not misunderstand me. I always leave things open for possiblity.

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MME wrote:
Snow White wrote:
MME wrote: lol.
So everyone who lies back and watches the game is town?
"Supposed to be town"?
No. What i meant by this is i dont see town being so aggressive in the space of what was 4 pages, to seriously consider someone scum.
So, I was right, you expect town to sit back and watch the aggressive scum post? Bullocks.
I said i didnt expect town to be
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aggressive to be able to decide one is scum four pages in. You are twisting my words by saying i expect town to sit back and relax which i do not but i do expect most to be a bit wary.

MME tries to force Mr Swauve into listing his suspects. Maybe trying to coax a vote onto one of the more popular bandwagons.

DeathNote unvotes BC. "hmm..." but its temporarily invalid.

DeathNote/Saberwolf gag on abortion.

OCTO. Elaboration. VERY MUCH SO NECESSARY. POINTS NOW. YOUR OWN WORDS FOR ME BEING "TOTALLY SCUM"

I like Saber's interjection here post 244.

MME backs Saber up. Much like a parrot as Saber notes.

Dramonic, the comedian to the scenario. (compliment lol)
Octo wrote:First of all, she was part of the initial RVS on BC, but as soon as he FoS'ed her (almost jokingly IMO) she dropped the vote, and put a useless inside-joke vote on Lowell
BC had garnered 6 votes, even after he had placed the FoS on me. 6 votes is veering dangerously close to a lynch. Close enough for me to be uncomfortable and unvote him. [/quote]
Octo wrote:Then when Saber votes Snow White with his declared intention of a second (competing) bandwagon, she takes it as an opportunity to look as super-town as possible, and makes this Captain America, everyone-is-equal! post.
Will provide a link from another game "totally" proving this is my line of thought and really a null tell. And please! If i was making a SUPER TOWNIE post i'd hardly be in this now would i?
Octo wrote: If 1 bandwagon can be useful, why wouldn't a second one be just as if not more useful? Snow White's answer seems to be, "because the 2nd one's on me, and I don't want any negative attention whatsoever."
No. My line of thinking is that everyone should be looked at. Not just two individuals.
Octo wrote:This makes me wary of the fact that so many of her posts either deal with non-game-related things (such as Empire of the Sun -- that whole exchange was very misdirecting) or open questions. Rarely does Snow White express any suspicion that's more than a slight jab here or there
Yes. Because the issue of abortion is so totaally relevant to mafia too. :D But seriously? This is what i wrote in regards to my misdirecting conversation
Snow White post 51 wrote: Empire of the Sun is a band. Nothing to do with the game whatsover just idle chit chattering. But frankly I think we should get off the subject of my avatar.
I think this disbands your theory.

And if you are complaining that im not listing my suspects. Well it was only a few pages in but with that post your either scum or havent really read the topic. Would you care to give an affirmative answer to either one of them?
But by all means bring more ammunination and i will answer it as best i can.

Reck joins. Yay!!!

MME. "According to her logic no one should vote" No. What i meant was BC did not need anymore votes for "pressure" if thats what its purpose was. In fact the fact that so many votes were piled on i think distracted from speculation of the people who joined the Bandwagon.

Like Santos's looking forward to someone providing speculation on someone other than me.

Right. I best to be replying to that text i got a while ago. But i will be reading page 12 aand 13 soon and writing up whats happened there and my thoughts on it.... i hope someone will inform me when its requisite of me to claim before hammering me. Tis only just for when i flip.
Links to come next post under headings.

Meta of Snow White's AtE as town.

Snow White/Lowell game where Lowell lurked as Mafia Godfather.

Snow White's last game as full fledged scum.

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Post Post #316 (isolation #24) » Sun Oct 18, 2009 1:02 pm

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Still writing. I have another game to catch up on but this one has taken first choice. Because well i havent particularily contributed much.

I responded to your first point of Mufasa's post 23 by saying it appeared laid back/joking if he was replying in response to DeathNote's
DeathNote wrote:I wonder will anyone be brave enough to hammer when the time comes
Thus. I dont see how Mufasa could have been intrepretted as being frustrated.

Mind you i didnt quote Mufasa or DN so you may have overlooked it. In regard to what you did read.

I cut it out because it didnt seem overtly relevant in regards to what i was talking about. But if you want to bring it up as a seperate point. A third vote on someone who has asked to skip the RVS by voting for himself is scary for scum?
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Post Post #318 (isolation #25) » Sun Oct 18, 2009 1:11 pm

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Please answer my question when i have the courtesy to answer yours.

Honestly. I didnt search i just took your word for it when you told BC ( i think ) he had the wrong end of the stick. And you meant Mufasa's post 26. Then when i seen it and refered it to the conversation, it appears Mufasa was replying to DeathNote. Thus. It loses some indigination that would otherwise be associated with it.
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Post Post #321 (isolation #26) » Sun Oct 18, 2009 1:18 pm

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Wasnt that Lowell?

A third vote on someone who has asked to skip the RVS by voting for himself is scary for scum?

All one has to do, were the third voter to defend themselves was "i was just doing what BC was basically asking. Its not my fault i logged in third" or something to the extent.

ps. ignore my question one more time and i will be doing the same vice versa. Im sorry but i believe its only common courtesy.
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Post Post #322 (isolation #27) » Sun Oct 18, 2009 1:34 pm

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Ack. My wicked/cookie quote tags got mixed. Anyone whose enthusiatic to read my post just reverse them.

Meta of Snow White's AtE as town
(cant link directly to the post but if your enthusiastic you'll find it)

Cancer Bottle
Cancer Bottle wrote:
Snow White wrote:im curious after the town scapegoat is lynched and flips innocent, who will your suspicions then turn to?
You are not a scapegoat, just another suspect. I have presented my suspicions against you. You have responded with theatrics.
LMFAO RECK
Awh! Sucks about your net but im sure you'll get on it. You have little to worry about anyway in comparision to my vote count! In regards to Wicked... i know. Its as though scums are scumhunting themselves so its all rather up in the air. But ill write up a scumlist soon. Maybe tomrrow. Its broaching midnight atm. *sad face*

Kiku - Hoopla's Seaside Mafia
Kiku wrote:Snow White: My main suspicions of you are your seeming knowledge of others alignments. I am planning oin doing an iso read to confirm this and lay out exactly where these instances occurred. Your posts take some time going through. Where did I say I "didn't read" the game? Oh yes, maybe I am not answering some of your questions because you pose them in the form of either/or fallacies
Kiku wrote:
Snow White wrote:1. @Kiku. Who apart from Exalt do you find suspicious and why? You must have some other opinion on players?
Snow White- false dilemma fallacy, rolefishing, illogical defense of another player
Exalt - Hoopla's Seaside Mafia
Exalt wrote:Why does snow white find it so impossible to give an actual defense? She obviously is desperate and flustered beyond belief, because she isn't even giving an excuse for her bad play now... she just is trying to blame it on everyone else....
MaskMan - Hoopla's Seaside Mafia
Maskman iso 11 wrote:However, has anyone else noticed that Snow White's secondary defense to everything is "Think whatever you think."?
RayFrost - Hoopla's Seaside Mafia
RayFrost wrote:Also, why do you need the "green light" from any of the players to do anything? Smells of AtA...
Thus far this is all i can find.

Lowell lurker game

One of the funest games ever!
Lowell wrote:I was hoping my lurking would induce a cop investigation before I was lynched for... being a lurker. Clearly that was a mistake. Not sure how that happened.
page 46 post 1133 (just for good measure) lol.

Snow White's Last Game as Fully Fledged Scum

Actually... this game was pretty awesome too Information is in my wiki.

Rebuttal to "everyone is equal" from previous town game

Rant about my secondary defense of "think what you think"
Snwo White iso 20 wrote:perhaps i should address my so called secondary defense: Everyone has their own opinions and im not going to force mine down anyone elses throat if i can help it. Its up to the individual to make up their mind and just because i find one thing 100% scummy. Doesnt mean another person will.

Everyone has their own gut instinct and their own reasons for their actions and i blame no one for that. I assume no one to take my word for the sake of taking my word because they dont know my alignment. But i do find sometimes if someone takes your word on another player and that player flips town then you are immediately placed in the firing line because that player doesnt want to take responsiblity for their action. So that is something i simply try to avoid. As scum and as town. Im lucky in the way that my meta can now speak for both.
Everyone has their own thoughts and opinions. Im not gonna stuff mine somewhere unless ive hardcore evidence to the contrary.

Will look at the past 2pages tomorrow it is now1.30am. Ill answer any questions then.

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Post Post #325 (isolation #28) » Sun Oct 18, 2009 1:50 pm

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Oops. That may be a brain fart on my account. I was joting down notes as i went. So at first yes i probably did assume you meant post 6 until you cleared it later. I was thinking it was incredibly riddiculous scum slip if it was the one you were talking about. And i didnt correct my notes as i went on. :oops: i do hope you'll forgive me for that.

Ah. Lol. That is fair. You have your own train of thought and even though mine may not be on the same level i can respect it. Frankly it is speculation though as I think it is different however this time in regard to where scum fall on the wagon seeing as BC invited it upon himself. If anything i think my wagon atm deserves a seeing to but then again i'd say that as scum too. So its really up to the reader but i will fight tooth and nail if i have to, to stay alive.

No it made no sensefor you to be talking about post 6 in regards to Mufasa being frustrated i just thought you were being really really silly scum and was like "???" until i ead your later clarification. Which still leaves me a bit "???". Do you see how the interaction between Mufasa post 23 and DeathNote lessens the impact of Mufasa being frustrated?

I can see now you were talking about post 23. Just a brain fart on my account. I just seen what i had on paper and wrote it up without verifying what id wrote, i just wanted it up asap, but thank you for correcting me on that. That is my mistake and i will gladly admit it. I hope i stated this right because i seriously need to go to bed. If there are any other problems or clarification needed ill respond tomorrow.

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Post Post #348 (isolation #29) » Tue Oct 20, 2009 1:50 pm

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Im on the same wavelenght as AlmightyBob on this one.^^

Post due in 2-3 days where ill respond to any posts directed at me and review posts at other players.

V/LA tomorrow and the day after


Halloween Ball and an all round booze up. :D haha.

Will reply to one thing though in Wicked's post about me being newbscum in this game. (im not ftr but i expect no one to simply take my word on that). Ive played as full fledged scum once when i replaced /in the Scrubs mafia. I came in with scums being really rather inactive and being tied as a lover to one of them who was on V/LA. But participated as often as he could.

They claimed masons to prevent a lynch on my predecessor and then i led a lynch against our third scum. We submitted no NK due to keeping ourselves verified masons more or less in the towns eyes and speculated over a live doctor the next day. We then wrangled a lynch on the town cop who claimed, before we made a NK and won the game. This has been the only time i have been fully fledged scum and for a newbscum which i was and probably still am, i think i done pretty well.

In response to my emoticon thing. Are you fudging serious!?!?!? haha. They're emoticons. You do or do not mind them MME? Which one? Surely you dont expect me to go back and trawl through my town games where i have used them too? *facepalm*
Saberwolf wrote:Don't worry SW, I'll get back to you ;)
This scares me^^ :lol:

If at all possible please hold off on a lynch before i get back. 0.o

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Post Post #449 (isolation #30) » Sun Oct 25, 2009 3:24 am

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Oh joys. Yah. I figured this close to the deadline i was gonna have to claim but i had hoped people were coming around so basically stalling in the hope someone else might slip.

Im town cop. Yay!!! :D Oh wait no... outted town cop. Oh noes! :shock:

Ironically this probably explains the over use of emoticons at the beginning of this game. But hey! Any non believers. Lynch me and lets find out! :devil: But frankly anyone who puts any further votes on me should probably be looked at before the community can get their say.

BTW. im aware there is likely one other cop out there as my sanity is not assured. Eep! Plan was to investigate Wicked... someone who i thought had a higher likelihood of being innocent and going from that as my sanity, provided he turned up innocent. If he was guilty i was then going to wait till night2 if i lived so long as to pick someone else i considered highly innocent or highly scum and then work off that. Complicated! But then again so is this role tbh. :/

Anywho! Any questions shoot. But im as sick as a dog atm. Ill get back to you as soon as.
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Post Post #458 (isolation #31) » Sun Oct 25, 2009 6:55 am

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Ugh so long... *annoyed face*

Yes im scum this is why people are trigger happily voting me. [/sarcasm]

@Wicked. And yet it has come from a townie. Seriously, either way i have the most amount of votes of so i'd be killed at deadline no?

Hey. NO one said i couldnt have a sense of humour here. Ehm.... a non scum power role... that i cant provide im afraid. I dont think. Every finished game i have played is in my wiki. Except Hoopla's the seaside in which i was a vanilla.

Having trouble imagining a cop would say "but hey any non believers. Lynch me and lets find out" Notably enough Wicked your vote has stayed on me in spite of your "indecisiveness". This comes after days of being hunted and me being sick, im not altogether with it atm but i have tried my best.

No. I have been told nothing of if or either there are two cops. So far as to say i am only aware of my own existance as cop. No one elses. But generally i find that when sanity is called into question there are usually two cops. And why did i say this? In case of a potential CC by another living cop whose managed to keep hopefully under the radar. Honesty is always the best policy.

Sick. Check my other games i posted V/LA in, i thought i did the same here too but obviously i was wrong.

Slip. Well id be hoping it'd be a scum to slip. And in any case, when i am townie im usually praying its NOT the cop called into question and if it is i'd rather any other role called into firing range instead.

Town Detective. Its rather long to type and im just used to refering to the role as cop. Its the same thing with a different name.

I explained why i thoguht there was another cop. My first game of mafia i played as cop on another forum. We were all a bunch of newbs so when one cop claimed wasnt i surprised and somewhat disbelieving because i was cop too. But town lynched the girl who roleclaimed cop and whaddya know she flipped "insane bulletproof cop". So frankly id rule nothing out... again thats the second game played in my wiki.

Eh... have you been totally oblivious to the amount of people hounding me? Im aware sometimes that notall cop claims are believed.

I had been CONSIDERING claiming because nothing else seemed to be happening. Oh dont get me wrong the FoS were riveting and provided small glimmers of hope so much for me to hold out but as the days narrowed down the deadline grew closer and i considered just bursting in here and going "hey guise! guess what!? :D Im cop! :D" jk. i would have but something in there a bit snider.
Wickied wrote:I don't think another cop should CC. For one, we aren't positive that there is only one, and secondly,
I would like to keep our real cop in the game a bit longer.


I don't believe the claim.
The bold confuses me.

@Faerielord if i have not somehow messed up how have i got here?

Your sanity is not confirmed. As in you may be sane or you may just be clucking crazy. 2people may be cop, one sane, one insane. This was my train of thought. Instead of there is one cop who may or may not be sane.

Im not sure of BC. Starbuck i think is scum. But go figure. Id be happy lynching anyone over myself but chances are i will be roleblocked anyway if there be a roleblocker in the house.
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Post Post #460 (isolation #32) » Sun Oct 25, 2009 7:12 am

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Her "case" on me felt extremely forced. She was being overly aggressive as if being fed up of the lynch taking so long. An she was online when i made my claim. She has yet to post about it and since logging on again. She still appears to be online.

Whats the case on BC? Yes the lurking is suspicious but id be skeptical as to whether its due from college commitments or just lurker mafia. He however did seem opposed to my lynch. Dont particularily find that scummy. But if someone has anything else lol. do share.

Careful now... L-1...

Iunno. Anyway when i die hopefully what bright sparks there are of town might be able to piece together some leads that have led to my seemingly inevitable lynch. I dont know. lol.

SW? Stop that or Saber might get jealous. Jk. :lol:
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Post Post #461 (isolation #33) » Sun Oct 25, 2009 7:15 am

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Correction. She's logged off at this stage.
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Post Post #526 (isolation #34) » Tue Oct 27, 2009 1:38 am

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NOBODY HAMMER UNTIL I CAN GET MY HEAD TOGETHER!!!!!

I SWEAR TO GOD. -.-'' Im aware i have to make some rebuttals aswell. Ill get to them too.

My only breadcrumb really is that i made an early joke relating to a game where BC was cop.
Snow White wrote: BC YOU BASTARD! YOU INVESTIGATED ME!
Said by Reck. A brief joke was made at it i think, well i laughed at the time anyway and thought "hey if BC's innocent he can look it up and know i breadcrumbed if i have to claim." When people started hounding, leaving breadcrumbs was second on my priority list.

Id prefer an Octo lynch today seeing as he immediately jumped on with a vote to BC despite BC claiming cop which as i stated i find perfectly liable.

On BC's claim if he's telling the truth this royally wipes ass.

unvote, vote DO


We dont need rash votes at a time like this. I highly dislike this when we still have a few more days left no?

In fact i maybe suggesting something ludachris.... no lynch? Unless thats against da rulez. It means probably one of BC or myself will be killed(provided we're both telling the truth), but at least you have a definitive answer on who was cop. And know to keep an eye on the living cop. Be there one. Else we really need someone else to lynch imho. My preference would be DO although i still dislike Starbuck right now. Ill try to distinguish why soon.

@BC. You were such a far more active cop in Mafia97 and Kubrik. Your play here is significantly different. Any particular reason? Dont get me wrong, i have gotten a prodiminantly good gut vibe from you this game too. But thats gut and ive never seen you play as scum. Any links?

Anyway with ten to lynch and by my calculations its nine votes, would someone be a dear and remove their vote? Considering that if im right and we have 2cops and BC is that cop, is lynched today, flips cop, ill be left tomorrow with blood's blood on my hands and consequently lynched the town will be left copless.

We are ALSO forgetting that if im right with there being two cops, one is not sane. And as to who that is is a total toss up. So town could be left with an insane cop and THEN gets a more likely result of guilty, ANOTHER townie will be lynched.

REVERSELY if im wrong and im the only cop and BC is lying, then he potentially off me tonight and claim insane cop after leading a ynch to a townie and get away with it by giving innocent results for the remainder of the game provided he doesnt hit a willing to claim SK.

Im inclined to believe BC however because he had the same "slip" i had in calling myself cop instead of "Town Detective". How very la dee da. If he'd been scum he'd have read over the slack i was getting for calling myself cop.

I dont believe there is any benefit in killing either one of us. At least today. Just a thought... But please more discussion before THINKING of a hammer. :/
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Post Post #536 (isolation #35) » Tue Oct 27, 2009 3:19 am

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Im not being bullied into squat diddly by either one of you and if town stupidly want to lynch both people claiming cop well then i was never really going to be much help to town anyway to a town so dense.

I have said my thoughts aloud and you two want to continue ahead and "organize a lynch" anyway? The two people in the frame for your so called organized lynch have just claimed cops in case any of the above have missed that. Well bar DN.

Just because something is astronomically low at happening doesnt mean it cant happen. Seriously. I know, what the hell are the odds of picking out two people who just happen to be cops? Well i dont know but you certainly caught one of them! I cant speak for BC because i havent bore privy to his role pm. He could be scum but id like him alive for one day so at least we have some more time to think over this. And its a 2/39 chance innit? Iunno. Ive always sucked at maths really.
Starbuck post 528 wrote:So SW, no replies to anything I said?
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And i like Day1 no lynches. Said so in mafia97 where i was a mason so you might find it scummy but considering ive said the same as town in another game is fairly moot point.
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Post Post #537 (isolation #36) » Tue Oct 27, 2009 3:28 am

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@AlmightyBob. No thats a typo on my behalf.

Investigations on Day1. Is not true. In fact the fact that if i were i scum wrote investigated in the first place is riddiculous in the first place. From now on im previewing whatever i say and rereading it to prevent me sounding like a bigger twat. :/

The breadcrumb was in calling BC a bastard.

I HAD meant that was what Reck had said in our previous game(or something to the same extent). Thats my fault though.
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Post Post #549 (isolation #37) » Tue Oct 27, 2009 6:26 am

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saberwolf wrote:i changed my mind

unvote;vote:BC
What... Was that a lynch? I'd really laugh if i were lynched like that. :lol: dang it, i keep forgetting im not as high on votes as i was.

@BC. Im not voting you because in my mind there are multiple cops. 2 anyway. With other roles floating about im at lenght to believe there are more than two. Thus i am cop and you may be cop. Im not contributing to that lynch. I can be lynched tomorrow! :D

I read your wiki. But no links. Can you link me to the newbie? Iunno maybe im odd but i have all previous games in my watched topics for good reference.

You sound so sure there is only one cop. How do youknow that? In that case maybe i should vote you? See the problem is ive got a pm saying im cop and because sanity here is an issue i'd safely say there is more than one. That would consequently mean i believe your claim even if you disbelieve mine... But that can be proven D2. ;)

Who do you suspect BC? Other than me i presume. *sad face*

@Faerielord. Of course if BC flips town cop i expect to be lynched. Thus i would like no lynch to keep him alive if only to provide some help in the form of any sort of investigation. If we go ahead with a rushed lynch now we have high chance of hitting pro town role no?

@Saberwolf. If there is (and i highly doubt there is) a third cop. THey should not claim we've already 2outed cops and i frankly believe BC's claim.... he's got a cleaner slate than me at the minute... Why are you guys voting him picking him over me?

As Saber said quite frankly. ive
make sure this quote is right from saber wrote: been caught now in a few lies, and have come up with real crappy ideas for our lynches.
ive made blunder after blunder, which i will freely admit and apologise for.

@AlmightyBob. Its still possible for it to happen. Given any other two roles the chances of hitting the ones you would predict would be the same. 0.65%. While hilariously outrageous its still a possiblity.

Sadly, i believe BC is cop..... I'd prefer my own lynch first as i see myself as having acted more scummy. If there are enough towns in accordance hell ill even hammer myself. There's no reason for anyone to hammer BC just yet, we still have a few days left and discussion is good no?

Anyway, starbuck/wicked rebuttal comming soon. My roast is nearly ready so i wanna eat first...
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Post Post #550 (isolation #38) » Tue Oct 27, 2009 6:27 am

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Ugh @ post548.
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Post Post #583 (isolation #39) » Thu Oct 29, 2009 1:02 am

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Ive missed the part where it said this was a bastard game... 0.o It seems pretty standard in da rulez.

But yah, it just looks like Max has gone MIA. We should prob wait till at least a VC is provided before jumping to any crazy conclusions about whether or not BC is or is not unlynchable. (which isnt listed in the list of roles) etc. etc. But if so then it'd be interesting but a SK or a vig could easily knock him off if they so desired.

And on an unrelated note Happy Birthday saberwolf.
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Post Post #630 (isolation #40) » Mon Nov 02, 2009 9:39 am

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Dammit. Two of the people i had the most doubts over.... And the only person i was remotely happiest calling town. Meh.

No results. We can only hope really that the mafia lost some abilities last night, like the town vig. Bad luck vig. :( Since the SK strikes at the end of the day, Wicked was killed by the SK.

The vig presumably shot MME last night. Vig's usually shoot dont they? Which leaves the death of Starbuck by scum. Which leads me to believe last night, at least from the flavour that scum were confident enough to have their scum doctor preform the kill and were secure enough in knowing they would not be targetted.... Just something in my eyes that may be noteworthy...

@Saber. Why vote Dramonic?
@Dramonic. Nothing remotely to say to Saber?

xRECKONERx. Snow White's claim is the truth. I loathed having to disclose it so early. Id also loate to do a reread, could you summarize why Sposh is out of the question or will an iso answer my question?
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almightybob is correct on looking at the roles to assume an SK killed Wicked and a vig presumably killed MME. And scum doctor killed town doctor. Well thats what i'd assume from the flavour of the kill as said above.

Why are people voting Mufasa?

@Mr.Swauve the vig had to hit anti town factions if im not mistaken, every night. If s/he hit town s/he loses powers. Which consequently happened.

@Dramonic. What is Mufasa right about the roles? I cant really remember much from you, what do you think of the game to date?

Kudos with almightybob on not seeing the case on Mufasa. Ill look at his suspects in a seperate post this one wasnt long enough.

-Welcome Zoneace- do let us know what you think of the game to date when your caught up.

@Faeirlord. You sound as if your honestly expecting results with a potential roleblocker in the house do you seriously think i would get results? Just the way you've phrased that doesnt sit well with me. Im on tone with Sanjay on this, you'd sacrafice the cop Day1 for a potential lynch on someone else the next day? What do you think of my claim since BC flipped Godfather? Why is it you are so skeptial and is there anything in particular you would like me to answer to.
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Post Post #649 (isolation #41) » Mon Nov 02, 2009 11:55 am

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Dramonic remove that vote. And on that how do we know there's not four mafiaso's, read the role pm's. But there is chance of a traitor.

@Saber. I said i got no results. This being because i
delibrately took no action last night.


I was fully expecting to be roleblocked.
You sound as if your honestly expecting results with a potential roleblocker in the house do you seriously think i would get results?
See post I said i had planned to investigate Wicked pre being outted. I at no point said i had changed my mind on carrying out an investigation and hoped a roleblocker would target me. Thus simply stating "no result" today.

I do hope this explains my actions (or thereof lack of) last night.

Mufasa's claim is true. I believe him wholly innocent in light of no counterclaim and if people are solely basing their vote on Mufasa as mafia being only able to take one kill and one action then this point is now invalid.
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Post Post #651 (isolation #42) » Mon Nov 02, 2009 12:07 pm

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Re. The traitor. There's an option of the traitor being a mafia back up... so when BC was lynched, its possible that the mafia Godfather role was attributed to the traitor. No? Not certifiably so, its only a possiblity but its still worth thinking about.

I believe Mufasa's claim. There is no CC and if his aim was redirected then he'd be foolish to say so when i came out and said i had recieved no results. Almost suicidal would you not say?
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Post Post #654 (isolation #43) » Mon Nov 02, 2009 12:16 pm

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Then in the case of him "slipping up" we need a CC.

I reitterate i was
not roleblocked.
I lied by omission. Or attempted omission.

Thereby its perfectly logical imho that he may have been redirected. The only thing that baffles me is why i wasnt attempted to be redirected... But this in itself could be a scum play and one greasy bowl of WIFOM im not keen on going into but if someone else wants to bring it up ill answer it as best i can.

:oops: thats probably my bad on the traitor. Ill tip my hat to you on that Saber.
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Post Post #655 (isolation #44) » Mon Nov 02, 2009 12:21 pm

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Because i wasnt particularily planning on letting mafia know my actions in the hope of if i took no action i could have had an action tonight. Because were i roleblocked last night then the roleblocker would lose their ability. it apparently is not the case and maybe we dont have a roleblocker.

1. MafiaGodfather (dead)
2. MafiaRedirector.
3. ???

-Im leaning toward a MafiaDoctor following Starbucks death.

Yeah. Forget the traitor theory. Im being stupid. I think i admitted that.
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Post Post #720 (isolation #45) » Tue Nov 03, 2009 6:11 am

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@FaerieLord.

Where has Sanjay explicitly said "the traitor". He has not to my recollection said "the traitor" instead he has said "if there is a traitor then X,Y &Z".

It sounds as though your twisting Sanjay's words considering that Reck had asked what were Sanjay's ideas on the subject of a traitor.
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Post Post #780 (isolation #46) » Sat Nov 07, 2009 12:34 pm

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I dont necessarily think Mr.Swauve is scum. If there is a redirector then he could, as the mod pointed out have chosen Mufasa and Mr.Swauve. What i dont understand is how after my cop claim that i wasnt mistargetted. Ooh well, no action taken here anyway.

Earlier apologies to FaerieLord. Im clearly blind. :lol: Anyway. Why the vote on almightybob? My scumdar is not functioning at all in this game but i have found him probably one of the most pro town people in the game thus far.

Clearly im comfortable with my own vote for the minute.
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Post Post #869 (isolation #47) » Fri Nov 13, 2009 8:58 am

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Currently catching up.
Aplologies. I had an oral presentation to prepare for and my activity fell to the side.
Thanks to the mod for the prod.
Ill begin my reread from my last post and write up as soon as i can.
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Post Post #901 (isolation #48) » Sun Nov 15, 2009 4:51 pm

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Sorry guys. I was busy catching up in another game today due to what i will similarly rant about here tomorrow. Ill be catching up till then and should have a write up from my last post then. Promises promises.

I do realise my names been previously brought up again. Getting paranoid on emoticons, bullshit. Im cop, i was excited to start the game. Now ive been outed ive lost some motivation to contribute in favour of other games but i will try try try tomorrow. And hashing due tomorrow. Im not the most apt toward this game but i still do have my night ability even though not using it last night.
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Post Post #1022 (isolation #49) » Fri Nov 20, 2009 2:34 am

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xRECKONERx wrote:
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I'm sorry, but I don't think there's any possible way that she's a cop role when almightybob just flipped detective. I see of no other possible lynch for today.
- contrasts to previous things you have said.

Unfortunate that AlmightyBob flipped detective. I was right in assuming there were two. I dont see another one being alive. And furthermore i am now useless as i attempted to investigate xRECKONERx last night following the whole "Blasphemy you should have investigate someone blah bla blah" by everyone really.

For what its worth I was roleblocked last night.

Ta dah!! I am as of last night, vanillised. Of no value to the town and imho only a liabilty.

*had previously inserted self vote until reading sabers 1021 and remembering my vote is already on myself* someone else can have the honour i guess.

Town is better off without me at this stage. Because mafia is obviously keeping me alive and thus, were i by some miricle to make it to lylo. Its hardly a tough choice.

And btw peoples, FUCKING SMILEY ANALYSIS BULLSHIT IS NO FORM OF FUCKING SCUMHUNTING.

Hammertime please!! :D
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Post Post #1245 (isolation #50) » Fri Dec 25, 2009 10:32 am

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Ugh this was the most frustrating game ever!! For... obvious reasons. :lol:

I actually started reading again after Faerielord was toast and by the end i was screaming at the screen to lynch Cookie, he believed my innocence too quick and on top of that Sanjay's input to what was manho innocence was inarguble. Well i thought anyway.

Well done cookie. :D And better luck next time mr. Swauve and manho. : )
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Post Post #1254 (isolation #51) » Sat Dec 26, 2009 5:45 am

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EtherealCookie wrote:I had the roleblocker ability, and I fell to Snow White's damn trick.
^^ AW!!! :D This made me uberly happy. <3

I feel like i served some sort of purpose... even though it neednt have made a blind bit of difference! :lol:

Congrats again Cookie. ;)
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