Mafia 102: No-Frills Game Thread(Town wins!)

[mask man]

/confirm second
So basically if the jailkeeper hits the cop, the cop is blocked.

[mask man]

Damnit crypto and your post-raping house avatar!

[mask man]

haha OWNED by mod.

[mask man]

17 min, 5 confirms, at this rate the game will start in about 45 min.

[mask man]

cool, first REAL vote right here!

vote: CSL

for being last to confirm.

[mask man]

Crypto: Reflex, I do that when I see something like that. If there was a doctor on the list, then 'Doesn't block mafia NK' would seem more of a logical... Well, both are equally logical, but the way scigatt phrased it just seemed... Off... Not the way I would do it.
Although once I think about it, putting it my way in the actual role PM would seem a little strange referring to the cop like that, even if is an open setup. No wait, maybe it would look 'more normal' considering how I would word roles in setups like Assassin, Dethy, Vengeful and such.

[mask man]

Sando: I was just responding to crypto's question.
Speaking of, I think crypto should get the MVP this game, he is really cracking down with that pressure on PC, and he isn't afraid to put someone at L-7. Did you see how calmly he responded to you Sando? He was like, 'It was mask's confirmation post', then right after that he clarified the post as addressing you like it was no big deal. That House av is really starting to mind-game us guys, we need to do something in case crypto is scum, some kinda backup plan.

[mask man]

My plan: It's better then yours: And this is it:
NL
D2, everybody says who they inspected and the result. Clearly everyone will lie, except for the cop.
If a townie died NL again. If cop died, just get to business(would be odd number anyway.).
D3 same as D2, we might(not likely) decide to lynch. If by D3 the cop has a scum result, they may want to claim.
NL
D4 we start lynching and the real cop claims. If the jailkeeper is dead we may want to change it up a little.

I like this because if the mafia want to try and pull a cop-gambit, they have to have it planned for a day or so. Also, if the cop dies then we just look at who he 'pretended' to inspect.

Thoughts?

[mask man]

hypocop eh? Sounds like a strategy name. Which means I didn't invent it.
man.

My brain was on fire briefly; I never really thought of mafia seeing 'that group of people got town on us. They aren't cop.'

Think like this though:
9p, 2 scum 1 cop. A+B is scum C is cop.
NL D1, D2 player 'I' dies.
A: town on G
B: town on H
C: town on D
D: scum on F
E: scum on G
F: town on H
G: town on H
H: town on C

From this the mafia conclude cop is H or C
They decide to kill C.

Now D is cleared, and the town thinks 'it's most likely not a coincidence, the mafia checked.'
now the town can check each pairs PoV and find which had the most narrow choices of cop possibilities. It's even easier and more defined with H clear.

Course until I run numbers and shit with this setup, we shouldn't go with it. Thanks for catching that charterscum.

[mask man]

Morning,
So uh, yeah, agree with crypto basically.

I'm fine with NL and all that, but when 4 people mindlessly vote NL with little explanation... In a row... While even mentioning 'lol bandwagon'... And Muh even had a counter with 'But people will die!', which I'm sure that nobody else figured, yet he still just went with the crowed.

If you are so addicted to Combo-ing on the internet that you would do something like that, get off my mafiascum mania.

[mask man]

Simul-post my ass, don't try and get off on this one crypto. I posted 60-159 seconds before you. I was clearly superior.

[mask man]

pizza OWNED.

I started playing mafia about four years ago on a NB server. It was chat mafia ran by the server bot, and it was fucking horrible. I can recall all the strategy and stuff and how idiots managed to fuck the town up, the game as a whole was shit on.
Skip ahead a few years/one year, I entered a game on smashboards but got replaced out(it was 40+ players and my first forum game.). That's when someone showed me another site and I started playing on mymafiamania, a site with people from mygnr forums that were forced to play somewhere else. I was on that for awhile, I had one little break because my mother was being a giant bitch. I was going to host my first modded there, I was typing up the fucking GAMEPAGE, IT WAS ABOUT TO START, I SPENT A WEEK WRITING MASSIVE PMS AND EVERYTHING AND MY MOM KICKS ME OFF FOR SIX FUCKING MONTHS.
Then I came back, there was a new site and crap. It died. And now I'm here. I went to play on EpicMafia before, but that shit sucks balls.

I have frequented the #mafia on Global Gamers irc for awhile too.

[mask man]

What's there to comment on? Mafia seems screwed, honestly, with this ratio.

scummy for someone not voting no lynch.

Scummy for someone not voting no lynch? My sweet life, Sir. Do I even have to say anything here? It looks slightly defeatist, but you have the wrong reasons here. What next? "You are FoSing them, why don't you vote them? I think you're scum!"
No maybe that isn't the best example. Well, I was expecting that to flow together right so I could just note 'not to mention it makes you seem to eager for an NL by pushing him.', but i'm tired atm.

I think that in some D1's, maybe a third of the players are really set on one person as scum, and the other fifth or so that are part of the majority just agree because it "looks good". In this game, it's really in our best interest to not lynch unless more than half of us are really, really sure.

Nice, I just read that and my brain had an orgasm like 'holy shit he is right.'
And that fifth that just agrees may be inexperienced and busted on that later. I feel like I can look at the players playing atm and know how the game is going to happen now. Also see this.

I spy a 'bad cookie' already.

Also note crypto's little comment on his voting speed. I'm not worried about it too much because he seems a little too good to fuck up like that.

[mask man]

suggests that the

town

are screwed due to the ratio of town to scum

c) If someone had that viewpoint I'd be expecting them to be voting No Lynch, which he wasn't.

1. WAT
2. Like I said, he doesn't need to be voting NL like a mindless zombie like everyone else. Even I'm not dumb enough to just go for something without talking.

[mask man]

crypto: It was more of an observation. I thought the 'cookie' reference would be seen a little better. Specially by you. Ethereal COOOOOOKIEEEE.

[mask man]

I think EC is anti-town, not scum. I was agreeing up until 3. I'm sure there are others against it :\

[mask man]

^That a scumlist? I don't see much wrong with charter atm. He hasn't really said enough.

[mask man]

Sando - Guess I missed where he voted me.
hiphop - Maybe if I turn avatars off I'll be better at recognizing everyone
le Chat - placeholder
CSL - Okay I know he posted some stuff...
X_~ - placeholder.
muh316 - He is trying I guess.
Staple - placeholder
Team Aether - placeholder
Kaiveran - placeholder
------Everything aboved will be edited by way of post after re-read. I still haven't gotten everyone on the top of my head yet, I need to start taking notes.---------
EtherealCookie - He is starting to post more game-posts. Newbie read. I wouldn't be surprised if we mislynch him soon, but he COULD be scum.
mask man - this dude is jesus.
bigmc109 - Contributing good, him and crypto are about to lift this game off out of the NL area and into 'so let's talk about peoples stances and conclude if they are scum from the information we have and will soon have' phase.
SerialClergyman - He is contributing, I just disagree with alot. e.g. anti talking, pro-omg nl now.
charter - hasn't posted lately, but judging from what he has contributed, +town points
crypto - this dude is god
Pomegranate - afk, no read

[mask man]

ello everyone. I am extremely displeased that nobody busted my skull open for my afkness. Put some pressure on next time, at least ask if I'm still breathing ;_;

Reading and posts coming soon.

[mask man]

Right.
Sorry guys, I was in the bathroom for a few days.

[mask man]

Morning,
I'm fine with NL and all that, but when 4 people mindlessly vote NL with little explanation... In a row... While even mentioning 'lol bandwagon'... And Muh even had a counter with 'But people will die!', which I'm sure that nobody else figured, yet he still just went with the crowed.

Would the four mindless zombies please supply some response here? I am very eager for some explanation.

[mask man]

Also, too lazy to find out what dotted vs. normal lines mean.

[mask man]

EC, seems REALLY scummy. His defenses suck, you would think he would be kind of upset that he is being attacked by pretty much everyone. Yet, EC tries to prove people wrong.

FoS Etherealcookie

As much as I don't like EC, your reasoning fails. What would YOU do if everyone attacked you? Prove them right by getting lynched?

I always thought that I was playing with a bunch of adults here.

I nominate this as your most insightful post so far. Even if your 'small 14 year old brain' can't digest a bunch of words that your eyes showed it, I'm sure you have a few things bouncing around in that hallow box you call a head.
Think about it. If I showed you a picture of something you don't comprehend at all, you will still form opinions on it. If you cannot respond to this, I consider you either useless or scum. Once I think about it myself, I think imma end up with the first one even if you do have some good thoughts.

I'll stare at my computer screen a little more later and come up with some st00f regarding votes later, for many men ate an apple without thorns. Also I would like my yellow tombstone to be covered in blue cheese. Would mafia members explain their vote? Regarding the epic dolphins Crypto has recently purchased, I want a slice of your butter hands for cross examination. It will profit you.

[mask man]

HI RAYFROST! CAN HAZ BUTTSECK WIT AVVY?

[mask man]

Oh and crypto, I read your post and found out what the prudy lil lines are for.

[mask man]

Even if your 'small 14 year old brain' can't digest a bunch of words that your eyes showed it, I'm sure you have a few things bouncing around in that hallow box you call a head.

MaskMan, as a 15 year old, I am insulted by the bolded.

Sorry, 'small 14 year old brain' was single quoted because a certain someone was complaining about being too young to comprehend the game. I myself am 14.

[mask man]

3. You have only 2 votes on you, why are you already preaching to us that you're a townie?

Because its not good for the town to lynch a townie? Do you suggest I claim cop instead?

Notice how Staple didn't call bigmc out on the 'townie', I'll check in a moment but I'm pretty damn sure that Staple wasn't an idiot and said that he was a townie. Nonetheless what Staple did say makes me want to puke.

I guess you guys are correct in lynching me, since I know I've been playing scummy. I will probably only cause more confusion throughout the game because of my scummy behavior these first few pages. You guys also do not lose much by lynching since I have not been contributing at all. Think the only way I could defend myself at this moment is to say that I will be more active from here on in, and

I am a townie

so it does not benefit the town to lynch me.

Uh, I was about to snip this until I saw the italics. Like I said, I'll look into this in case I was wrong.

@Mask Man: Why do you constantly feel the need to post irrelevant content throughout the thread thus far? How do you think those posts help the town? They don't. So if you are a townie, and those posts do NOT help the town, why do you post them?

The only posts of mine I saw that were irrelevant was "Hi ray" and the soz post. Also, how do my posts(other then the ones I admit are rather irelervant) not helping the town? The fact that you use the word 'irrelevant' bothers me because they pose questions and opinions regarding the game and how the town would should do to best benefit themselves. I find this in the context regarding the game as extremely relevant to a degree that most sane humans would not refer to them as irrelevant. I also don't like how you point out a repetition within it.

[mask man]

You said that Stable said that he was a townie, which I assumed Staple isn't stupid enough to say. And that what staple himself said was extremely idiotic. He did say Townie twice in that post alone, so I'm starting to doubt my old thought on that. Not to mention the fact that he only had two votes.

[mask man]

Bigmc: Interesting. I notice how he doesn't phrase it like a claim at all. Normally I take this as the way I have been, but perhaps I should check with the source. Staple, care to explain?
muh: I don't get it. Did you mean to have the first sentence of 320 include a question mark replacing the period? "mask man(I'm picky about both m's being lowercase, with a space or underscore.), are you saying that his post was possibly not good for your team?"
I'm assuming I'm totally wrong here because- well I'll answer my assumed incorrect translation first of all: Er, wait I'm confused now. If I was scum, then what Staple said would be profiting me. I'll just wait for a correction so I can get this straight.

[mask man]

You two could have been scum and the disgust could have been considered that your telling him that he is giving away his scumminess.

Ah thank you for explaining that. And thank you, crypto, for defending me so that I don't have to- ah screw it. Despite my distaste for his use of the word 'retarded', he is right and your comment was idiotic. I would also like to point out that as scum I would not openly show disgust for something that only scum would show disgust for, as it is scums job to seem town.

[mask man]

I really don't have much problem with Staple. As a matter of fact even when I vote someone D1 aiming for a lynch(And I don't like to say this often because I get thrown on the ground and stomped on for this a lot with "Then why the fuck are you voting" logic.), I am sure that the person is vanilla townie being fucked up. I think it's because of how many idiotic vanilla noobs they are and how I can't get a read blah blah blah... Not to mention statistics of hitting scum like that anyway. But atm Staple is looking like epic fried scum on a bun. The only reason I'm not really voting him now is because I have a few questions and such that haven't been addressed yet.

[mask man]

I really don't have much problem with voting Staple.*

If you don't believe me, the quote without the parentheses(and the last sentence) reads as

"

I really don't have much problem with Staple.

As a matter of fact even when I vote someone D1 aiming for a lynch, I am sure that the person is vanilla townie being fucked up. I think it's because of how many idiotic vanilla noobs they are and how I can't get a read blah blah blah... Not to mention statistics of hitting scum like that anyway.

But atm Staple is looking like epic fried scum on a bun.

"

And if you keep dissecting, you'll find that the word 'but' doesn't really fit in with the second sentence+thoughts that explain that I normally think someone is town when I say something like that/vote for a lynch...

"

I really don't have much problem with Staple.

As a matter of fact

even

when I vote someone D1 aiming for a lynch,

I am sure

that the person is vanilla townie.

But

atm

Staple is looking like

epic fried

scum

on a bun.

"

"I don't have a problem with Staple, he seems town. As a matter of fact even when I vote someone D1 I am sure that person is vanilla townie." Doesn't really make sen.... well actually it would kinda if I was voting him and it wasn't D1.

[mask man]

I'm kinda lolling inside.
Okay, key st00f right here pome, "The only reason I'm not really voting him now is because I have a few questions and such that haven't been addressed yet."

I'm saying that Staple looks like uber scum, terribly. I think Staple is indeed scum.
And I put in "Well D1 I often think this person is Vanilla town... BUT THIS TIME"

(The underlined word were to point out how the post was strung together in a way that backs up me saying that I thought Staple is fine FOR A LYNCH.)

So outside thoughts: Pome is the only one confused about what I have to say right? I don't need to re-do reasoning skills/explanation class?

[mask man]

Yeah, if Ray can't say 'Hi mask!', he can't say anything town.

[mask man]

@Muh: God I must be the worst scum ever.

I have thought about how fail this is, so all I can say is QFT and the obvious: If you were a good scum player, you wouldn't get caught acting scummy. Simply put "Only a stupid scum would do that and I'm not stupid" is WIFOM and only a stupid townie would act like scum. Uh, you kinda have to read that the right way.
Also, why did you claim Vanilla as a 'defense' when you only had 2 votes? And why say "Would you rather I claimed cop?", bottom line is WHY DID YOU CLAIM AT ALL, it doesn't help the town, it helps the scum, and if you have half a brain you would know that all it would do is make people want to lynch you more. You are really defeatist, why?

[mask man]

I'll come back to life after the move FYI.
Glade somebody noticed my absence.

[mask man]

Hi guys, sorry for the absence...
Well, I haven't really been absent at all. But as I said, I wouldn't be posting until after the move, but since it's taking a little longer I might as well drop by real fast. There are a few times I should have spent time here but I was all 'well the move should...' blah blah blah. But I have been skimming through recent posts every so often to see if there was anything regarding me. Sorry if you asked me something or w/e and I didn't respond. From the glances I took there are a few very interesting things happening, and over the weekend I'll get on regardless of if the move happened or not and get my opinions out, do some post-by-posts, yada yada.

[mask man]

I'm alive and well, thank you for the concern mod. I have posted with my 'moving sucks' st00f, thought we could relate there. I assume you just prodded anyone that hasn't spoken for 12 hours though.

[mask man]

Because the "I give up, lynch me if you want, but I'm just a townie" doesn't seem likely for scum to do, especially on Day I.

People pointed at this while I was waiting for the move to get the hell on. Nobody really said flat out that it is 100% incorrect though, just how scummy the statement was. I think you are experienced enough to know that MANY scum (although frustrated newbies also do it.) will do this. If you want, I can find some proofs.

mask man

Probably town. But iso-31 is what lends a shadow of doubt.

soz, not sure what iso-31 is? I was guessing the 31st post, which wasn't by me. Too lazy to check MSwiki, which might not be up anyway.

Why is it more likely this strategy (I don't think it is, seems pretty genuine) is coming from scum instead of town? Why can't he be town and not want to be lynched?

Even newbie town would use a better defense. The way you word this is saying Staple wanting to be lynched is his defense and that he doesn't want to be lynched... That would be if he is scum. If he was town, then he would be willing to die and it isn't a ploy.

There are two sides to it, as far as I'm concerned:

1. Inexperienced
   scum are more likely than
   experienced
   scum to dig themselves into a hole and then make emotional appeals to get out. So it's logical to consider that as a major possibility for Staple as he is a relatively new player.

The thing is, he didn't dig a hole. There were like three people digging a hole for him.

I think Staple did most of the digging here. And even if people attacked him, he didn't have much of a defense; if he can't get out using simple logic, it's because he can't, because people are on him for GOOD REASONS, because he really screwed up.

Unvote Vote: bIGMC

I'm not liking his reactions to Charter.

I am. That little Charter vs. BigMac thing over staple was just a giant ball of bigmc using perfect logic against someone with half a brain. I hope that Charter learns that he is not Staple's chainsaw by the time I'm done reading.

What I see: Charter goes against BigMC, best thing charter ever used was the "you are scum setting up two lynches" logic, which people used primarily against him, I'm guessing this turns into a debate on if it's really a scumtell or not. So people get rolled up in all that, ignoring the common fucking sense that bigmc has against Staple. Really, you guys think staple is town?

just want to let everyone know Im alive. I just dont know what to post.

cool beans bro.

Like I said, I'll be back on the weekend regardless of some stupid move.
@crypto: What do you think of charter alignment-wise, after being the one that had to yell out 'bigmc isn't being scummy, you are using shit-logic and staple is scum.'(please call me out if I misrep'd you.), I'm surprised you don't have a vote a charter, and instead are more eager to lynch pom.

I was hoping staple's replacement could get some more stuff out so I could judge, but by the looks if it nothing will happen and I might end up just lynching the replacement and then charter when he turns up scum. (oops, did I just set up a lynching line like bigmc? I must be an epic pile of failogick.)

[mask man]

Serial, Kaiv, CSL and muh, the no-lynch zombie crew. Of them I think CSL is the only one replaced, and I haven't seen your guys's response to my questioning(if I missed it just point it out.). Would like to see some stuff here. Sorry for the pop-like post, busy day. I plan on looking over my posts later and checking questions that haven't been answered, that and my voting analysis that I keep telling myself to do.

[mask man]

page 26 is cool.

[mask man]

page 26 is cool.

If forced to, who would you vote out of BigMc and Muh?

Wasn't it clear that I'm one of the sane people that can see the bullshit case on bigmac is bullshit? Muh.

[mask man]

What have I done since then that is so scummy*
You made a typo, that is a clear, 100% scumtell.

But really, the majority of players are being stupid and voting you.

[mask man]

hiphop: Today after school, tomorrow after school, or sometime tomorrow when I should be in bed.

[mask man]

Sigh, whole game looks like it'a slowing down. Anywho, my idea was to use this day epically here but other than getting a vote analysis the only thing to do is ask questions, but so far my questions have been left rather unanswered and the questionees have flaked off of the snow pile. I might as well hurry this up, maybe tomorrow I'll fit something in.

Vote: Pom

[mask man]

To be honest, Staple replacing out when he was under pressure was far scummier than anything else he did. No one brought that up though.

I'm not saying I noticed this, but normally I don't like to make points out of replacing. I find it really dirty, but he was rather new.

[mask man]

You better fucking not.

[mask man]

Pom: WRONG.
Crypto is totally on to something, we should all mass claim right now. jk.

[mask man]

hmp.
inb4lock and now I know crypto's alt!

[mask man]

ok fine

vote Pom

pls dont think im scummy for the last few posts :/

Lemmy fix that for you.

Okay fine,

vote Pom

. Please don't think I'm scummy for the last few posts. I'm a rather slow reader, and I have no real defense against anything so all I can do is ask kindly for it to not count against me. Also, I'm sure that if I hammer my scum-buddy it won't matter much anyway and you'll be convinced I'm town.

Note that WW's last few post's weren't really scummy anyway.

[mask man]

Actually, I take it back. I didn't see WarWound ask if we wanted him to hammer. Still suspicious, but not as much as I thought.

but i did ask if you guys wanted me to hammer

That is kinda the bad thing.

[mask man]

Morning all. Not liking crypto's "OMGIS" posting. Charter someone still on the bigmc lynch is coming back neutralish. I should be able to get some crap out soon. No real comment on War Wound,

just... uh, keep up all the... uh, so...

Null read on noobs.

[mask man]

I don't think there's nothing wrong with using the threat of a policy lynch to pressure a player.

dotdotdot.
Did you mean, "I don't think there's

anything

wrong with using the threat of a policy lynch to pressure a player." ?

[mask man]

I will post content by this Friday?

[mask man]

Right, I know I gave an explanation earlier, said I was momentarily afk and all that jazz but I'm a few hours late. I been keeping track of the topic but haven't had time to post what I was planning to. I have a timeframe for mafia cut in between Saturday and Sunday.

[mask man]

Good evening gentlemen.

Finally.
Fuck. Castigate me, severely. That's three times in a row I've urged the wrong lynch on day 1. I'm on the verge of resorting to random.org and some butchering of Bayes' theorem to pick out my scum. Next time I build a really nuanced case for a suspect, someone please let me know so I make sure not to vote for them.

As I have already said, don't like this first post of obv reasons.

Empking, reasons for WW? I don't know what they are, sorry.

vote bigmc

Still probably scum.

Still? Really?
I am still looking forwards to seeing an actaul case on him other then "He mentioned chainlynching once."

Crypo jumped on the WW noob wagon, and pushed it like it was his car after it ran out of gas.
WW has been the biggest VI I have ever seen. Really, I don't have many problems with preflynching when I think it will actaully profit the town. Sadly this is not one of those times.

Crypto. Your looking like a scum. All this pushing for a lynch thing. It seems as if you know everybodys roles. A clear scum tell.

muh is completely correct because when Crypto pushes for a lynch it is scummy, but when muh pushes a lynch with charter for shit reasons it is 100% justified.

And now for the kicker, which deserves separation from the quote wall. Watch this, guys:

Crypto. Your looking like a scum.

All this pushing for a lynch thing.

It seems as if you know everybodys roles.

A clear scum tell.

BTW, crypto, muh has a very valid point.

Was I pushing for his lynch? Yes, that's what players do in this game when they believe someone is scum. It's also what scum do when they are trying to cause a mislynch;

the fact that I pushed for Staple's lynch is a null tell.

Notice my unvote of him. This was in part because he was replaced, and also in part because he went against one of my arguments about him (that being he finally asked for a replacement). I was not going for the easy target, I was going for the scummy player.

Ta-da!

Unvote: muh316. Vote: bigmc109.

Fucking yes, I'm in

ad hom

mode now.

You're doing it wrong. IMO, the redbold points at Muh. According the bigmc's reasoning, which does not fail, Muh is just saying "Everybody that has ever pushed for a lynch is scummy", which is exactly what he said when he voted you.

Unvote: hiphop.

Vote: bigmc109.

*insert town autowin here*

vote bigmc109

, this certainly makes alot of sense, especially proving it with quotes

WW is looking like a blind follower.
When I first read the snippet'd post I wasn't in the best condition, but once I read it now it looks like Crypto is epic town. Still hasn't convinced me that well on BMC.

I think that post 868 to 872 is an pretty cool guy, he takes sarcasm over the top and pushes shit off cliffs and doesn't afraid of ANY logic.
But really, you can see this kind of thing in alot of muh's posts.

Vote: muh316.

clear scum. Just because I targeted you you targeted me back. It seems pretty scummy to me. I think my vote was correct. Your very scummy.

Notice the only real content is the second sentence. Let's take it away and see what the post looks like.
"clear scum. It seems pretty scummy to me. I think my vote was correct. Your very scummy."
Really now? Okay class, today we will work on elaboration while still pushing your argument. You'll notice that the content is complete shit, but let's ignore that. The real important thing about this example is everything else. Take out your highlighter and mark every sentence that strengthens the argument by enforcing the idea that we are right and our opponent is wrong. If you don't have a highlighter, just underline in pen. Now to reveiw todays lesson: You can enforce any argument by blatently saying what your evidence is trying to say. The best part is that you can do this as much as humanly possible and still be taken seriously because it makes it look like your post has content.
If this strategy is used on the test tomorrow by pointing out one detail between different ways of saying "I'm right", you are sure to ace it!

Unvote, Vote: HH

Empking- what is the news?

No news. I just think you're scum.

BMC has done a few scum things but I need to do a review on him later. I would much rather lynch muh, and I'm surprised Crypto didn't say "Well, instead of me voting BMC just so we can have a bandwagon, why don't you just join me?"
I might change my mind once I take a look at BMC, course Crypto unvoted for a good reason.
Overall I think Muh is just way scummier then BMC. Let the guy defend himself too.

vote: Muh

It may be that I have a scar on my brain from everyone wagoning BMC for shit reasons yesterday and have a picture of him with "100% town" engraved in my mind.



Sorry for waiting so long to make such a useless post, I explained that I would post the day I got carded and excuses excuses and stuff.

[mask man]

Bad feeling that bigmc is a town PR and Crypto was fishing.

[mask man]

I really feel kinda bad about this because I didn't really participate much today, it went by a little faster then I expected. Are non D1's always like this?

Vote: BigMarkColon

[mask man]

Second post.

vote muh

Muh, explain your crappy play while you still can. In particular the diplomatic fail attempt I outlined yesterday. And don't give me details on how town can do it too, because I know it's completely reasonable given the correct argument there, but it is still no excuse for the actual shit-reasoning you gave.

[mask man]

Eh, I would include you in that list, charter.

[mask man]

I picked a nice time to just happen to read the last few messages.
Okay maybe I didn't even read Muh's post and just saw charter say "real" and "jailkeeper"

unvote:

Muh

[mask man]

Morning all. hiphop, you forgot a word in your last post.

[mask man]

You think it's a total matter of chance that I post LESS THEN FIVE MINUTES AFTER YOU SAY THAT?
I must be epic lurking and watching.

Now really, let's see... Should be doing HW right now, tomorrow is going to be a shit, but I should be able to post (content) tomorrow around this time, or the next day right after school. I haven't exactly read everything up anyway, but I better see some good reason in the current wagon. I'm sure I will.

[mask man]

Am I the only one not surprised at the sane cop?
crypto is a scum rapist.

[mask man]

A second apology to the mod, and a first to all the players for my frequent lack of posting. I am glad to see that I was replaced by one far better.