See, this is why you don't procrastinate. You write up some stuff, and then you waste time and people steal your thunder by saying it first. Oh well, I'm still going to post it because damnit I wasted a lot of time putting this off. I should just stick to snarky one liners.
People on the Jackwagon, in order of appearance
Bub Bidderskins, pwnman, Netopalis, jasonT1981, DarkLightA
Bub Bidderskins:
#43+44 First votes Jack because he copypasted his quiz answers from other people.
#69 Next post from Bubs he calls Jack 'so anti-town that he is unlikely to be scum' but keeps his vote on Jack until he responds to SK questions. [Ehhh...]
#91 Gives previous experience showing why he thinks Jack is town, keeps vote on to get answers. Says he will support a Jack lynch if it comes down to it, despite twice calling him town. [Don't like this] Attacks pwn & jason for being on the wagon without good reasons, despite pwn giving the same reasons as him. Only FoS's pwn, not jason. [?]
#108 Demands answers some more (After Jack has already given his answer) and provides this: "While I can see that possibly the secret service agent is the serial killer and the
lawyers are the mafia
" Never before is the possibility of lawyers being mafia mentioned by anyone. [Where did this come from?]
#125 Links fishy as Jacks scumbuddy for defending Jacks actions. Changes his opinion on Jack, saying he has 'gone far and beyond what is "normal" anti-town play.' Gives reasons as Jack refusing to answer questions (Again, after he already has) and him playing poorly. Is 100% behind Jack lynch.
#148 Defending self against fishy. Gives reasons for suspecting Jack as not giving answers and "good points that Net and others have brought up" [Pretty weak] Finally mentions if Jack is town, there must be scum on the wagon. (After both GC and myself have pointed this out) Points at pwn again, but fingers everyone who may have wagon jumped.
#149 Suggests Researcher may be a lawyer. Again suggests lawyers are scum. Implies Researcher cannot be a scum role and thus the one of the Justices or the agent may be partners with the remaining lawyer. [Seriously, where did you get this idea?]
#155 Defending self against Jack. Claims Jack never explained copypaste, despite Jack citing post numbers where he explained it fully, and calls Jack very scummy for 'dodging all the questions'. [What?] Again claims Jack hasn't really answered questions about the copypaste issue. [No really, what?] Contradicts his post in #91 by saying he wouldn't have supported a lynch on Jack at that time, does want to lynch Jack now. Explains his reasoning for calling the lawyers scum, assuming all the jurors are town [Bad assumption] and thus the lawyers are mafia and the SSA is the SK.
You're really sketchy and jumping all over the place. Can you explain why you think Jack never answered either question?
pwnman:
#49 Same as bub, votes Jack for copypaste.
#52 Explains why Jack's copypaste is suspicious with "You don't copy and paste people's answers unless you don't want to look scummy" [???]
#89 Rebukes Dry-Fits vote on him stating he was second on the wagon and that Jacks refusal to answer questions would make him join the wagon if he hadn't already.
You really need to post more often, and more substantially.
Neto:
#64 Votes right after the "Need to know basis" post.
#78 Tells Jack to explain or be lynched.
#82 Calls Jack's "need to know basis" and follow up post pure scummy. Again threatens Jack with lynching if he doesn't explain.
#85 States gaining information only benefits town while hiding it helps scum [Wrong] Concludes that Jack is hiding information, and thus is scum.
#87 Sees no reason for pro town to do what Jack has done. Questions why Jack mentioned SK in first place.
#90 Response to fishy explaining why he thinks Jack's actions are scummy. Nothing really wrong, but nothing damning either.
#100 Is worried that Jack is getting away with establishing an anti town meta to dissuade further suspicion, citing Dry-fits response considering Jack as anti-town rather than scum as evidence as this. [In Dry-fits post, he gives no real opinion on Jack at all. Kinda odd] Big bold "Answer the question" letters.
#105 Doesn't believe Jacks explanation, confirms vote.
#107 Completely misses the similarities between his quiz and Jacks "SK-Slip"
#138 Refuses to believe Jacks claims of it being a conversation starter.
#166 Wagon on Jack falls apart. Willing to switch his vote now that Jack isn't going anywhere. Gives four potential suspects (Pwnman, DLA, Bub and Darox) he may switch too.
#167 Still on Jacks case, still refusing to accept Jacks explanation.
Do you still see Jack as scummy? Would you still push for his lynch today if it came down to it?
jasonT1981:
#26 Confusion over SK statement, asking Jack to explain. (Second person after GC to do so)
#58 More asking for Jack to respond.
#66 Votes right after the "Need to know basis" post. "DIE SCUM"
#94 States if Jack has information vital to town, and doesn't share it, he'll have to be lynched in order to get said information.
#101 6 minutes after Netos big bold 'answer the question', does the same thing with a big bold 'what makes you think there is a SK'
#102 Explains that people find Jack suspicious because he acts like he has inside information on the setup.
#113 Asks a bunch of questions that have already been answered by Jack and again demands he answer them. [Seriously, why does everyone either ignore or not accept any of Jacks answers]
#120 Comes to a couple of bad conclusions. Twists Jacks statement into town benefits from all information, and thus calls Jacks "need to know basis" post as a contradiction. Based on this and his refusal to answer questions, is confident enough to say 'DIE SCUM' [Again. Pushing very hard for this lynch]
#124 Ignores Jacks explanation and attacks him some more for things he's already answered for.
I get the feeling you're not really reading posts properly. Your zeal in trying to get Jack lynched is unsettling.
DarkLightA
#39 Asking if Jack is going to explain SK comment.
#110 Quotes 'need to know basis' and implies Jack is a CIA SK. Follows up with a sad face and a vote.
#126 Confirms that he thinks Jack is CIA SK.
#130 Takes 3 of Jacks quotes that make sense and do not invalidate each other and proceeds to act like they do with no explanation given.
Needs to post more, seems to just be jumping on the wagon without thinking about it.
Other stuff:
Dry-Fit: Two posts. You really need to say something.
Fishythefish wrote:Given the Researcher role, 5 votes could be L-1 for Jack or any other player. Noone should put people on 6 votes unless they are prepared to hammer a wagon.
Read the role info. It can only be used at night, and there was no night 0, so there is no threat here. It'll only matter for days 2 and 3.
pman5595 wrote:jasonT1981 wrote:pman5595 wrote:
• conjures up the idea that Jack copied and pasted VOTES. (?)
To be honest, I kinda just saw this as a typo considering Jack copying answers was a topic of discussion for a short period around the time of that post.
that isn't my main problem. My problem now is that he claims to have EBWOPed that he made a typo. but he never did.
The biggest part of the case is a gut read.
Yes he did.
I'm voting for Yosarian2 because he's the only person I've played with before. And because he's cool.
) is pretty scummy, don't you think? - even without the wagon analysis.