Mad World: Time Travel Mafia (Game Over)

[ReaperCharlie]

Hi Magna, Zang, CallMeLiam... remember our last ooba game? *high fives Zang*

Vote: Karma

(not-random RVS vote)

[ReaperCharlie]

Actually, I've been in need of a new avatar...lemme go find one.

I've actually been wondering if you could send me your old Bioshock-looking one, that one was rad.

[ReaperCharlie]

sweet. it was beautiful

also... LOL at the spy hat. i stopped playing that game right before the hats came in. I might start again though.

[ReaperCharlie]

RC's just mad at me cause I think he's scum in every game we play together

No... that's actually fine, I would think I'm scum too.
I'm just mad because you're soooooo wrong and you refuse to change your mind

SPY'S SAPPIN MAH SENTRY.

[ReaperCharlie]

OMGUS! (both of you!!!)

But you're probably right, I probably am scum. I should probably read my role PM >.<

[ReaperCharlie]

Did Tasky seriously just join the site 2 days ago?

That's an alt, I'll stake a wager on it.

Unvote; Vote: Tasky

(trying to be tricksy, little hobbit? NObody trickses US)

[ReaperCharlie]

unvote, vote: ReaperCharlie

I'm an alt too!

Yeah, but your icon isn't trying to eat my soul. It's just trying to scramble my brain.

[ReaperCharlie]

Your attempt to derail a bandwagon on a probable townie is noted. ^_^

[ReaperCharlie]

*probable in my last post meaning 'if you consider the odds', not meaning 'considering how he's been playing'.

I haven't really read the thread too closely, I would hope that's evident.

[ReaperCharlie]

Reads by page 3:

The majority of them are gutsy reasoning, good enough for page 3 (players in the town category feel more relaxed, if they are prone to joking, its not forced, some meta, etc; while the players in the prob scum category feel more calculating with posting, weird posts, jokes feel forced, meta as well)

Prob Town:
Karma
Seraphim
RC
youngminni (the meta accusations are very likely to come from a townie entity)

Prob scum
Longing
diginova
Zang

Of my prob scumbags, here is the post I dislike the most:

Vote: Tasky

It's basically RVS, he can change his mind. Your logic is a bit flawed eh?

Also sorry for confusing people. I simply meant to ask mod if we can still post in Twilight after someone is lynched. I also don't like voting in RVS because I find RVS pointless (only as a means for us to get to the next stepping stone after about 20 random votes. That's why I perfer to vote when I can find something close to a legitimate vote at this stage).

First, Tasky reasoning to vote Seraphim is very likely joke reasoning. I dont like how Longing is pretending this to be a serious reason in page 1. Second, I dont like the apologetic tone too soon, feels calculated to appeal the masses. And finally I dont get why is important for her posting in Twilight after someone is lynched???

I think this is the best vote atm.

Vote: The Longing.

Your logic seems practiced and valuable.

Also, I like that I'm on your probtown list.

Sir, you have my vote.

Vote: TheLonging

(Not to mention, you soaked up the Assassin's kill in AitPPPPokerFace which was meant for me... >:D oh, sweet victory!!!)

[ReaperCharlie]

Oh sh*t! Alpha Werewolf's in this game!

Vote: Alpha Werewolf

inter-game OMGUS ftw

[ReaperCharlie]

Welcome to those players I know – Zang, RC, and Liam.

@Zang – Can we expect you to be more active than you were in Smalltown – Stardust?

No... that's actually fine, I would think I'm scum too.

I see you’ve adopted the Fate / Sprexy / xReckx playstyle of being scummy for survivalist reasons. Good to know as the game goes forward.

But you're probably right, I probably am scum. I should probably read my role PM >.<

Hi, look at me I’m pretending not to be paying attention to the below posted Mod rules. I’m all random and scummy. [/sarcasm off]

heh.

Magna, I don't really want to defend RC here but I've seen him act this way at all times.

lol yeap

Can we expect you to be more active than you were in Smalltown – Stardust?

well im not scum in this game.

LOL

[ReaperCharlie]

i guess pretty much "i plead the zangth" when it comes to that one.

but... somewhat backwards, in a strange and unlikely way.

[ReaperCharlie]

*adds "wagonee" to the wiki*

[ReaperCharlie]

*mixes up Slicey and GhostWriter's avatars for the 956th time today*

and yes, 'wagonee' is a perfectly adequate term for that situation, lol

[ReaperCharlie]

Oh.. well, ok

Also, Rikku > Riku ^_^

[ReaperCharlie]

Yeah but Karma. WIFOMy as it may be... he's not lying. lol

[ReaperCharlie]

The "why am I not on either of your lists" comment by RC is suspicious

eh? I don't recall saying anything like that. Are you sure you've got bread in your basket?

I recall saying "you're awesome for putting me on the town list" or something more along those lines.

G'day, mate.

[ReaperCharlie]

The "why am I not on either of your lists" comment by RC is suspicious

eh? I don't recall saying anything like that. Are you sure you've got bread in your basket?

I recall saying "you're awesome for putting me on the town list" or something more along those lines.

G'day, mate.

Reread that section, and you are right. I misread it.

Unvote RC

for my premise was proven incorrect

Vote: Sharkfinn

for blatant misrep, and backtracking

[ReaperCharlie]

Go to full editor, and then at the bottom of the posting window, put a checkmark in the box beside 'Disable smilies.'

[ReaperCharlie]

Apologies to all: I was writing a bunch of flavor for role PMs for a mini-theme I am modding, and now they are all finally out. Expect a re-read and some more in-depth posting this weekend, now that I have some time, and I'm less busy with my modding commitments now that the game's finally started. *whew!*

[ReaperCharlie]

Pro-tip: Backtracking is first saying one thing (valid or not), and then reversing your stance and saying another thing once someone puts pressure on your original premise.

[ReaperCharlie]

My vote on him for backtracking was a joke. Ergo, one might expect me to unvote.

But then my unvote would be considered backtracking. And I wouldn't want to do that! Right?


And thus, we also learn what WIFOM is.

[ReaperCharlie]

Uh... you've been here since 2007 and you're only a Goon? /facepalm

[ReaperCharlie]

That was @ diginova btw

[ReaperCharlie]

I see. I have also only played one newbie game, and I hated it. A lot. ....Never again.

Were/are you a Computer Science major? The word 'compile' makes me think of delicious, sweet, programming goodness.

[/buddying]

[ReaperCharlie]

I highly dislike RC's #147. Why the need to inform us that he's finished writing PMs now? The game's just started.

Yeah, as in, I finished sending out role PM's and the game's finally started.



Also... it's obvious that you're just mad at THIS:
http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 2#p2350712
http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 3#p2350793



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Apologies to all: I was writing a bunch of flavor for role PMs for a mini-theme I am modding, and now they are all finally out. Expect a re-read and some more in-depth posting this weekend, now that I have some time, and I'm less busy with my modding commitments now that the game's finally started. *whew!*

Hey Tasky. This.

Anyways, working on catching up in another game or two before I get around to this one, so... hold your horses, eager beavers!

[ReaperCharlie]

Hey, Reaper, I gave you an avatar, get your ass on the theLonging wagon.

I agree, especially since Sera has convinced himself he never needs to think about anything else I post, the stuff I posted before he made his vote was such a well-made case that we can ignore my new posts.

You agree that I should get on your wagon? 0_o

[ReaperCharlie]

Ah what the heck. It'll tell us something either way, and this game is large enough that a few mislynches won't kill us.

Unvote; Vote: TheLonging

(if i'm not already)

[ReaperCharlie]

=O! he... HAMMERED? He must be SCUM!
He's obviously tomorrow's lynch!













......

[ReaperCharlie]

Sharkfinn's attempt to get Longing off the hook by focusing on gandalf is noted.

Also, this. If TL flips scum, this should definitely be looked into tomorrow.

Hmmm.... I somehow feel that your lining-up-lynches for tomorrow isn't quite pro-town. Yes, it will be looked into. No, you wouldn't be a prime candidate to lead the charge, however. Obviously due to OMFGUS reasons.

[ReaperCharlie]

Holy sh*t that was confusing/awesome! Wtf is a reverse survivor mason? lol

wtf @ SharkFinn voting gandalf who's dead. I find it odd, but it doesn't make him scum immediately, Tasky.

I need to re-read, be back in a day or two.

P.S. Stop with the OMGUS from our last ooba game, CallMeLiam. lmao

[ReaperCharlie]

So... this piqued my interest, and I thought about it a while and Reverse Survivor Mason could only mean a few things.


If you apply Reverse to 'Survivor' it means that he only won if he was killed. He was killed and didn't satisfy his wincon, so that's right out.
If you apply Reverse to 'Mason', it doesn't really mean anything. This is right out. They were obviously masons of some kind, and the differing colors means they had different wincons so MoI can still possibly win while Gandalf might as well chalk this game up for a loss, if I understand it correctly.
If you apply Reverse to 'Survivor' and 'Mason' separately, it means that he only won if his partner was killed. Obviously his partner was killed and he didn't satisfy his wincon, so that's out too.

So this leaves us to conclude that Reverse must have been applied to 'Survivor Mason' as a single entity, which means that Gandalf was a Juliet and only won if Romeo lived, but MoI (Romeo) wins anyway with the town cause he's just a regular mason.

Interesting setup. Pretty confusing though.


Still gotta re-read and report back in a few days. Stay tuned sports fans.

[ReaperCharlie]

Karma: What was your case. (I iso's you but I couldn't find it.)

Vote: RC

y helo thar, inter-game OMGUS

Is that the only reason anyone's voting me? lmao

[ReaperCharlie]

Hmmm, not seeing a case against RC and the wagon on Shark is lame.

There

is

no case against me (at least as far as I can tell), except for that I've been slim on content. Also, CallMeLiam's vote is just OMGUS from another game. lol

Anyways, since I haven't read the thread yet, a random vote is as good as any. And sheeping ckd doesn't seem like a bad idea at this point. Also, Tasky is voting me, so why not?

Unvote; Vote: Tasky

(blatant omgus)

Anyways, I still haven't been able to read the thread; I'll re-read EVENTUALLY, how about that.

*cue someone saying "omfg! look! Reaper

still

hasn't read the thread! and now he's thrown down a vote? an omgus one at that? obvscum!!! lynchlynchlynch!!!"

[ReaperCharlie]

RC, you can keep poking fun AT THOSE that might not like the fact that you are voting and keep not reading the thread ( I mean I get being busy), but how long is too long in your opinion to keep doing that?

Usually I do it until people start a wagon on me, but it's already started so I'll have to read some time today I guess =\

Hecka busy... ugh

[ReaperCharlie]

help me improve as a player?

lol! are you joking?

[ReaperCharlie]

[REDACTED]

- ongoing is a no-no

[ReaperCharlie]

Pro-tip: Another reason why succinctness is pro-town: because then your main point doesn't get lost or muddied up by the rest of your wall-o-text.

[ReaperCharlie]

Yep... I will be posting a readthrough analysis today.
And not because everyone asked, either. Just... because it's time.

It's funny that so many people are asking me to though.
Why does my opinion matter any more than anyone else's?
Other people are slacking off too...

[ReaperCharlie]

Meh.

[ReaperCharlie]

What the h311? I have 5 votes on me already? ugh! Ok fine, you asked for it. My readthrough and analysis is coming before 5pm PST (I dont get out of work until 3, and since I'm not caught up ITT it will take a couple hours). So... about 8 hrs from now. Sry for the delay.

Please no more votes on me until then. Whoever votes for me before then is probscum.

Unvote

[ReaperCharlie]

Sorry all my internet was out. Post coming up shortly (not as thorough as I want it to be but it'll have to do because dinner is soon)

[ReaperCharlie]

OK. finally. I got some time. I just woke up from a nap. have only slept 5 hours out of the last 48, sry to keep you all waiting but that is definitely more important. *stretches and yawns* Yeah, this is three full hours late :0 obvscum!!!! lol

Post by post analysis of thread (caution, may contain IIoA):

@ Seraphim accusing Tasky of double-standards in RVS: w/e, I dont think it's a tell. if he's a newbie, let him act like a newbie. I am wondering why ooba would let such a newbie into a large theme game though

SharkFinn's entrance to the game in #44 doesn't seem particularly strong or well thought out, but... yeah its pretty early to have anything to go on. In #45 though he pushes for a lynch already: "5 more to lynch Tasky (of course I doubt it will happen soon)", which I don't find particularly useful or pro town.

I kinda agree with #47 from ckd. I hate playing with lurkers and flakers.

#49 from digi seems more like town-paranoia than scum-freakin-out, as I mention in #50.

I like #53 from Anon.

#54: Sharkfinn is also a VI. Oh noes. Now we have two already.

#60 and #61 from diginova sounds like an IC talking, not really like a player playing. This is not a newbie game. If scum don't have a day talk QT, why help out newbies in this game? This game shouldn't have newbies in it, period. It makes things a lot less fun for serious players.

No offense to them since they've obviously been trying a lot harder and paying a lot closer attention, but yea it's kind of tough when you're in ten current games like I am. But seriously,

have they even completed a newbie game, mod?

#62. Ok wait. We have three. This game is looking a lot harder to win now... I'd definitely not want to see any of those three in a MyLo situation.

Karma's comments in #66 about sharkfinn's #44 echo my own.

sharkfinn's #67 is terribad in defending against #66, but then again looking at his join date... idk. still though, read this: "At the moment of the post, he was the scummiest in my eyes. Of course it was not set in stone and I already had intentions to move the vote if things got closer." So he voted for whoever the largest wagon was because he was scummiest. yay, because votes on somebody make them scummy! logic fail. but the disturbing part is "Of course it was not set in stone and I already had intentions to move the vote if things got closer." <-- ORLY. then what is the point of a pressure vote?

and that he says that "most people put themselves on their own 'town' list has me facepalming right now.

#72: yawn

#73: nice avatar, that is from the Doubt manga, right? and wait a second... are you friends with KageLord in real life??

#79: I like this post. I think I like 99% of Magna's posts on the site. They drip town. Easy to say after he's all dead and flipped and whatnot, but yeah, point stands. this post was good even before he died.

#82: after seeing gandalf's flip, what does this make you think?

my #88 and #89: sorta my excuse for not paying so much attention. lol

#100: same here, ckd. what do you think now? lmao

I like #103 a lot. Enough to lay a vote on it.

Vote: Zang

#106. Go-go-gadget-IC from a newbie, that's a new one Ok I'll stop, lol

#107. shhhhhhhh let him figure these things out by himself. this is not a newbie game, please stop treating it like it is. they won't learn more by being babied, they'll learn more by making mistakes and getting ganked for it. (yes, i realize that if they are pro-town that it's 'scummy' of me to say this, but frankly, I don't care)

#109: what do you think of your gut now, Empking?

#110 sparkles with pro-town loveliness.

I like #112 as well, but that looks like it could also be a scum sheep vote with parroted reasoning. Still, looking at the join date, it could just be an earnest vote.

@ 118: ORLY diginova. you missed it. i believe you.

Zang's third reply in #120 makes me want to backhand him, but it seems like only a townie would say something like this. And it's true, Zang plays differently as scum. But I ... but...

Unvote

Seraphim #122: WOOP WOOP IIoA ALERT!!! scummy post

ckd 124: you seem rather jumpy about a vote on you, good sir. and not even a vote, just a threat of a vote. noted.

#125: i don't know razorback either. who's razorback?

I kinda like 127 even though the vote is wrong. nobody could have known. I thought thelonging was scum just as much as anyone else did (except the real scum that is, lol). anyways in a game this large, it's likely we have 2 scum groups and/or a number of third-party roles like gandalf's.

sadly, the points about me in #143 were spot on.. moving on

#144: though i agree that magna's posts are long, there's generally a lot of good content there if you wanna dig a bit. he thinks through things significantly more in-depth than most players i know, and when it comes to

I like #148 by 'I doubt it'. The points about Zang AND the points about TheLonging. How long have you been on the site, IDI? you seem to know how to cut through the crap and get to the meat of the discussion, at least, a lot better than some of the other newbies floating around. I see you have been here a month, that might explain most of it.

And for what it's worth: Even though TL flipped town, she deserved to die. (She's probably in the dead players quicktopic at this very moment shaking her fist and screaming "I AM NOT FEMALE!" rofl)



.......

This is taking longer than I thought. My readthrough analysis of page 7 and on will have to come later, along with my thoughts about certain players and overall summation of the thread. Sorry again for promising more content which I can't yet deliver... but... hey thats life.

[ReaperCharlie]

Also, I'd continue to appreciate it if people would not lynch me until I get the rest of this post up. Thanks a mil.

[ReaperCharlie]

RC, we're still waiting for part 2 of your post.

yeah, i know, what the f***.
have patience young Padawan.

[ReaperCharlie]

ah crap i think i accidentally deleted the other half of my post.

sh11111111111111t

[ReaperCharlie]

[ReaperCharlie]

P.S.

Vote: SharkFinn

[ReaperCharlie]

Vote count please?

[ReaperCharlie]

Why are the people who are voting me, still voting me?

... 'splain, plzthx.

That's all. Have a good night!

[ReaperCharlie]

RC is probably using that Transformers pic as a breadcrumb, but I still don't like his excuse that he lost the second half of his big post and is not trying to recreate it.
I won't put my vote back on his wagon until it gets as insane in terms of delays as it did last time.

On another note, can anyone with more G1 Transformers knowledge than me tell me what a crumb of http://transformers.wikia.com/wiki/Rhinox would mean?

More likely, the picture references the post above. Rhinox replaced Alpha Werewolf. But seriously, rolefishing much?

Ding ding ding. Somebody get the guy above you a brain sling, he's thinking too hard.

[ReaperCharlie]

You're welcome. The point of voting and unvoting Zang was to illustrate my train of thought. And nobody's had to unvote me, though some have. The principle was that they were voting me because my lack of content was abysmal, and now it's not, so they unvoted!

[ReaperCharlie]

lol what, are you gonna just perpetually threaten me with your vote if I don't contribute to your standards? gtfo

i will contribute as i get time. i haven't had much time to devote to this game lately, i have a bunch of others too.

[ReaperCharlie]

I and digi are not scum together, get that out of your head this very second. though i *am* interested why he is pushing on me so much. it seems like he was itchin' to lynch me

empking, I skim the last few posts since my own last, and then respond summarily. it's much different than reading in-depth and/or doing a full re-read. the time difference is between 3-4 minutes or 1.5-2 hours, and if that's not significant enough to be my reason why i am playing like this, then I don't know what is.

and i definitely don't have enough time to spend an hour in each game I'm in, each day or two, so.... hence the mini-catchup/prod avoidance posts.

[ReaperCharlie]

I and digi are not scum together, get that out of your head this very second. though i *am* interested why he is pushing on me so much. it seems like he was itchin' to lynch me

empking, I skim the last few posts since my own last, and then respond summarily. it's much different than reading in-depth and/or doing a full re-read. the time difference is between 3-4 minutes or 1.5-2 hours, and if that's not significant enough to be my reason why i am playing like this, then I don't know what is.

and i definitely don't have enough time to spend an hour in each game I'm in, each day or two, so.... hence the mini-catchup/prod avoidance posts.

maybe you didn't read this post.
or maybe you just don't care.

personally, I think it's the latter.

[ReaperCharlie]

I can dig that. Remind me again how many votes are on you though, Sharkfinn?

[ReaperCharlie]

http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=14305

^ This (recently finished) game helps explain Emp's actions re. RC.

Ninja'd. But I agree.

[ReaperCharlie]

Juuuust checking.

[ReaperCharlie]

V/LA my wife is going into labor. It might be a few days.

[ReaperCharlie]

Don't lynch me I'm town. (Go read POWERFUL WIZARD Mafia if you need an example of this defense, and how well it works -- depending on the number of times it is repeated).

[ReaperCharlie]

Hi ckd how was your weekend? rofl wait its the middle of the week.

[ReaperCharlie]

o.O

FoS Reapercharlie

LOL!

I'll catch up in a few days when I catch up on my sleep first.

Games that I'm already semi-caught up in will get my attention first though.

[ReaperCharlie]

I gotta work on the nursery too

I'll catch up. I swear. lol

[ReaperCharlie]

Thank you, Sharkfinn! And you're right, Mafuyu.

[ReaperCharlie]

Go Go Gadget: Setup-Speculation!

I would like everyone to fill out this questionnaire. Thanks a heap!

1. Do you think there are multiple scum teams? Why or why not?
2. How many players per scum team (assuming they are the same size)?
3. How many third-party (read: gandalf-esque) roles are floating around?
4. There were 2 scum kills last night, and 1 bonus. Do you think one could have been blocked/saved/interfered with?
5. Does anyone think there are possibly as-yet-unrevealed altered voting or lynch threshold mechanics in the game?

Probably more questions later.

[ReaperCharlie]

Thank you! <333333333333333333

[ReaperCharlie]

Also, that quote in the last votecount is interesting in that it reminds me of Inception, where time runs slower relative to whether you're in a dream or not (and it shows this by way of showing watch faces, with the hands slowing down). This isn't a spoiler or anything so don't be upset if you haven't seen the movie. Just go see the movie.

[ReaperCharlie]

Well its pretty obvious LynchMePls is inter-game tunneling. woot. I think we are going to be friends.

And KageLord, you have absolutely no room to talk, Mr. Maybe-I-can-replace-out-of-one-game-but-replace-into-two-others-and-hope-nobody-notices. So... I can active lurk all I want, and you can't say shiznikey.. I just had a daughter, have been gone for days, and I still have a bunch of games to catch up on, so some games are just gonna take hits in activity. Get off my nuts.

[ReaperCharlie]

the mish mash one too. and it's not your concern whether or not I'm active lurking. you need to scumhunt little grasshopper.

[ReaperCharlie]

I also support a Tasky/Lynchmeplease lynch but Im surer about Rhinox.

Boom. Rhinox it is.

Vote: Rhinox

If he flips scum, do you think Tasky and LMP should be next? i.e. do their alignments hinge on Rhinox's in any way?

[ReaperCharlie]

So you have exactly 0 scum reads.

*golf clap*

[ReaperCharlie]

Oh oh oh. That's like a scale. I get it now.

I thought all the people under town were town, all the people under neutral were neutral, and all the people under scum (0) were scum.

LOL

[ReaperCharlie]

Yes. There are pros and cons. That is not to say, necessarily, that making a list is inherently townie or scummy, though.

[ReaperCharlie]

It doesn't, necessarily, but it has quite a bit of potential, if players actually answer the questions.

My turn: How does

not voting

help us find scum with a deadline approaching?

I'm afraid I've got you there.

[ReaperCharlie]

I like I doubt it's case against diginova. I would be down for a diginova lynch tomorrow. And yes, this is me, lining up lynches. BITE ME

[ReaperCharlie]

Uh. That sounds like a townie claim to me.

Also, I would like to know why I doubt it likes the case on Rhinox more than SharkFinn's, but is still voting SharkFinn.

[ReaperCharlie]

I'm not going to accept that claim, and I'm buying diginova's reasons.

don't make me vig you

vote digi please.

[ReaperCharlie]

?!?! you screwed with the quotes. why?

[ReaperCharlie]

vote digi please.

Why?

oh btw here's your answer:

http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 9#p2399309

[ReaperCharlie]

Fact #1: ReaperCharlie is SO FRESH AND SO CLEAN.
Fact #2: ITT Robbnva is trying his arse off to buddy up to me.
Fact #3: Dinner awaits. Later dudes

[ReaperCharlie]

Bump

*trips*

*glares at mod*

"thanks a lot"

*pouts*

[ReaperCharlie]

What is that software that DOES make it friendly? Is it Tapatalk? or something? They just had a topic like that come up on some other forum I'm a part of.

Yeah just looked it up. That's it. http://www.tapatalk.com/

I'll mention it to Flay.

[ReaperCharlie]

From what I've seen in the past, I have never seen a town redirector.

And your vote on me is underwhelming at best. Futile at worst.

Put it somewhere where it'll get some work done!

[ReaperCharlie]

roflpwned

[ReaperCharlie]

and fwiw, I don't care what bandwagons have formed, I cast my votes how I see fit.

And you do it pretty much non-stop apparently. Also, is it just me, or has every vote you've cast over the last few pages been specifically because another player suggested you should? Do you have an original thought?

oooooohhhhh burn

[ReaperCharlie]

The more reaper posts the more suspicious he looks. He rarely posts anything of value, not saying I do either but atleast I am talking about the game, he isn't

*tries to throw dirt on Reaper, but it fails because Reaper has a DirtShield 3000*

[ReaperCharlie]

Anon almost never loses as town. Let's just sheep him.

Unvote; Vote: Rhinox

[ReaperCharlie]

now If I counted right in my head, I think we have Rhinox at L-1

lol which hidden votes are YOU counting?

[ReaperCharlie]

I'm not sure how likely a town flavour cop is.

As far as I am aware, not very likely at all.

[ReaperCharlie]

Unvote

I just went back and looked for the Rhinox claim.

Yes, I would like to know who the Time Traveler's Wife is. Do you also learn her role and abilities, or just her flavour?

[ReaperCharlie]

I'm not sure how likely a town flavour cop is.

As far as I am aware, not very likely at all.

Sorry I am thinking role-cop. This is most often a scum role. Not sure about flavor cops.

[ReaperCharlie]

now If I counted right in my head, I think we have Rhinox at L-1

lol which hidden votes are YOU counting?

You and anon already had votes on him and you both revoted for him, I thought they were new votes.

Sounds like a scum tactic to coerce a claim at L-3. If you really went back and counted votes, you'd have noticed that we were already voting for him. Even if we didn't notice. Scummy.

Unvote

I just went back and looked for the Rhinox claim.

Yes, I would like to know who the Time Traveler's Wife is. Do you also learn her role and abilities, or just her flavour?

Just quoting in case rc is actually scum, of course he would want to know who she is

This is a poor attempt to state the obvious, but in a way to try to paint me in a bad light.

And it's done in a non-committal way, in order to appeal to the subconscious. On purpose.

Unvote; Vote: Robbnva

[ReaperCharlie]

I will *gasp* probably read the topic later and pass along my thoughts.

And I'm not worried about putting myself in a bad light as long as it reveals scum, ckd.

[ReaperCharlie]

imo Clare would be a VT. I saw the movie a few months ago, and she has absolutely no time-travel powers. But revealing her identity wouldn't actaully confirm her as a townie, so I don't really see the danger she'd be in.

As for mod-meta... last ooba game I was in, I was Yvaine (Claire Danes) from Stardust, i.e. the protagonist/good/hot chick, but in the game, I was scum. So... you never know, eh? Basically, flavor != alignment.


P.S. LOL at Robbnva calling me black after I already called him black

[ReaperCharlie]

ckd was asking if you think you may have been redirected... i think?

[ReaperCharlie]

Yep.

*listens for the echo of his backhand on Robbnva's cheek*

[ReaperCharlie]

Rhinox, based on Alpha's posts, do you think his targetting makes sense? Yes or no?

Not really, no.

That is all what I wanted to hear.

Vote: Rhinox.

I don't get it...

Me neither.

[ReaperCharlie]

I still don't get it Anon. Why is that a reason to vote

him?

[ReaperCharlie]

Wait... nvm. I didn't make the connection that he replaced in for Alpha.

/headdesk

[ReaperCharlie]

hahahahahahha hahahahahahaha

are you laughing at me or LMP?

[ReaperCharlie]

Also as in: As well as me? or as well as someone else.

and REAVE ME ARONE IT WAS AN HONEST MISTAKE

[ReaperCharlie]

Ah.

well... Wagon ho!

[ReaperCharlie]

Oh, I thought I was already voting him.

I forgot about voting Robbnva.

So Anon, what do you think of Robbnva?

[ReaperCharlie]

Exactly. You're scum.

[ReaperCharlie]

I will eventually finish my readthrough. I am so not motivated right now, also I already did one earlier today for another 20 something page topic. Not fun

The worst is when you replace into a 45 page topic. UGH! lol

[ReaperCharlie]

*post*

[ReaperCharlie]

I'mma

Unvote

for now, try to re-read later, and then vote when I am fully informed.

[ReaperCharlie]

NO.

[ReaperCharlie]

I will UNVOTE: , since my vote on RC isn't doing anything as deadline approaches.

No sh*t sherlock

[ReaperCharlie]

btw

Vote: Rhinox

cause I don't think my re-read will happen before the deadline.

And because Anon asked so politely.

[ReaperCharlie]

removed: <No posts after lynches>

Deadline for night choices: 1st August 4:30 P.M - 69 hours away

[ReaperCharlie]

Sh*t. What the h311 am I gonna do without Anon! *sadface*

And yeah Budja was acting kinda shifty... but then, he always does.

Also, I think it's safe to conclude that there are 2 scum groups.

More later.

[ReaperCharlie]

*2 or more

[ReaperCharlie]

Please elaborate. If LMP is possible scum I'm lynching at a moment's notice.

[ReaperCharlie]

Accordint to the ever-so-helpful scum-sensitive member titles, Robbnva has been identified as a 'Goon' ... in other words, MAFIA.

Lynch him!

[ReaperCharlie]

Nothing concrete on LMP (in otherwards I did not redirect him to any now dead players), but the nature of TimeTraveler/Non-TimeTraveler + possible nonkilling mafia doesnt by anymeans clear or kill clear him.

But seriously though, I want to know something. How does you targeting LMP last night make him scum? lmao

[ReaperCharlie]

He's less scummy now, afaict. i'd have to re-read though.

and we all know that's probably not gonna happen right away.

[ReaperCharlie]

That's correct, as long as he's a 'vanilla' redirector. And assuming he targeted LMP to redirect, and not as the one to redirect TO. I'm not sure if he's stated that yet, but then, I haven't been reading all too closely. I'll be more useful in the next two days, I just had a couple of games end.

[ReaperCharlie]

lrn2bbcode

or at least preview first, sheesh

[ReaperCharlie]

ReaperCharlie agrees with Mafuyu, but wonders why we are talking in third person when obviously that is one Mr. Zorblag R. Lyeh's job.

[ReaperCharlie]

You've been here less than 2 months. When did this habit start?

[ReaperCharlie]

Aha. Carry on.

Now back to the game.

Nothing concrete on LMP (in otherwards I did not redirect him to any now dead players), but the nature of TimeTraveler/Non-TimeTraveler + possible nonkilling mafia doesnt by anymeans clear or kill clear him.

But seriously though, I want to know something. How does you targeting LMP last night make him scum? lmao

Answer this please SF.

[ReaperCharlie]

Thanks for answering his question for him.

I am asking it again for a reason, moron.

[ReaperCharlie]

No point now, now he knows I'm doing it and it'll be worthless. Forget it.

But...

Vote: LynchMePls

Yeah, that feels about right.

[ReaperCharlie]

Your #676 is largely WIFOM.

Rhinox was lying.


Anything else?

[ReaperCharlie]

If by massive difference you mean that he still didn't have to explain it himself and you still defeated the entire purpose of me asking a redundant question, then yes.

Try not posting for a while, while I interrogate other players. That'd be awesome and it might actually allow me to get some scumhunting done. Thanks a mil.

[ReaperCharlie]

When is the deadline?

Unvote

[ReaperCharlie]

*facepalm* --- read the wiki.

short: he redirects player A's night action to player B, by selecting both of them as targets.

[ReaperCharlie]

Damn my Internet crapped out right when I was typing this long post

vote ReaperCharlie

he has dodged people's questions, lurked a ton, posted random nonsense, and posted a 100% lie and ignored the question when called on it

lol! what lie was that?

[ReaperCharlie]

right now this thread is so full of facepalm it's not even funny. that's like what... 3 on the same page?

/facepalm.

[ReaperCharlie]

/game prod

[ReaperCharlie]

a baby is coming, a baby is coming

congrats

[ReaperCharlie]

CKD: I claimed the redirector part. But Im not going to say the full actions from last night as I could reveal info to counterclaim scum. This is why I wait to claim it. One of Player A or Player B of my action is LMP. That is all.

This post I don't like.

Bah, screw it. Mind Bend (redirected) LMP to Robbnva. Either player want to claim either success of what happened or counterclaim or claim role/action?

This post I like.

[ReaperCharlie]

*waits*

[ReaperCharlie]

For:

Either player

want

to claim either success of what happened or counterclaim or claim role/action.

Derp.

[ReaperCharlie]

Empking: is there a reason why you capitalized the I's in your post above, even in the middle of a word; but not anything else?

[ReaperCharlie]

@ mod: request mass prod

[ReaperCharlie]

Robbnva, you seem really wishy washy to me. I can't decide if it is scummy or not though. You seem completely unwilling to stick to any of your convictions. I think you've had a vote on like every player in the game today.

Scum trying to stick it to other scum. How very cute.

[ReaperCharlie]

You're useless in this game RC. This is the first time I've ever seen you play this way. As it happens, every other time I've seen you play you've been scum, so I don't think you are this time.

Scum trying to buddy up to town with the whole "I know you're town, wink wink" tell. Even cuter.

[ReaperCharlie]

Nervous much, LMP? You're lucky I wasn't alive in Star Wars Mafia once you replaced in for VRK, you'd have been done for. lmao

[ReaperCharlie]

And since I see that I'm not voting for you currently, here's a nice slice of pie:

Vote: LynchMePls

[ReaperCharlie]

I am leaning towards agreeing with you...

This LMP wagon may have to roll another day...

[ReaperCharlie]

that's really convincing Robbnva.

[ReaperCharlie]

*dodges WIFOMsnowball*

[ReaperCharlie]

Robbnva stays as town atm (still think he's newb town)

Who are you calling a newb? *raises eyebrow*

[ReaperCharlie]

Yeah but you have no room to call anyone a newb, you've only been here 2 months.

[ReaperCharlie]

I have lynched him as town for it before. I'd do it again in a heartbeat, but I think there are better lynch choices.

I might actually re-read this topic, post some useful information, and become an actual player instead of just an active lurker.

Maybe.

[ReaperCharlie]

*sigh*

[ReaperCharlie]

And directly in the wake of my #788 too.

[ReaperCharlie]

*processing.... tabulating....*

[ReaperCharlie]

It was cute how you were both still voting for each other, but were the only ones doing so.

Now make your vote useful and put it somewhere worthwhile, please.

[ReaperCharlie]

Wish I had time for Mafia. Ugh just replaced out of 3 games. I really don't want to let ooba down though. rofl

[ReaperCharlie]

Nooooo! That was the one person I had a nice town read on!

And I never trust crypto.

[ReaperCharlie]

Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it may. And outlive the bastards.

[ReaperCharlie]

Two. And the other was Left 4 Dead. Yeah.

[ReaperCharlie]

My quote wins BTW.

Yeah, it does. I was just copycatting ABR.

FAIL.

[ReaperCharlie]

blah blah blah, thoughts on the game?

Sorry, I don't read thirty-three pages in a day.

Take lessons from Andrius, he read 70 pages in like an hour.

But in other news; don't worry, I bet most of it is fluff anyways!

[ReaperCharlie]

I think I read 7. And since then I've just been winging it. We're doing ok (we caught scum) and nobody is trying to lynch me (score!) soooo yea I'd say it's all gravy at this point.

If something crazy happens or a bad lynch is about to go through, I'll try to stop it, but otherwise, my vote's where I want it, and I don't have time to do much else than check in every once in a while to let you guys know I'm still alive, and to avoid prods.

[ReaperCharlie]

unvote vote mafuyu

have you expressed any suspicion in LMP this game?

Via post, no. This is also true for a good half of the people alive.

Appeal to Majority; bad. Contradiction; worse.

Unvote; Vote: Mafuyu

[ReaperCharlie]

Sounds like a scum gambit to me. I don't buy it.

[ReaperCharlie]

I am a very suspicious mother f***er. You folks haven't heard about Star Wars Mafia, have you?

Please go read it immediately, here. viewtopic.php?f=3&t=13889

[ReaperCharlie]

*sigh*

[ReaperCharlie]

Generally you won't know if you're roleblocked or not unless you're a cop or something that gets a return on their night action, so don't assume it worked just because you didn't hear from the mod that it didn't.

Why do you think Mafuyu is scummier, SharkFinn?

Also, though I've seen redirector as a town role before, I've much more often seen it as a scum role. Care to explain about this?

[ReaperCharlie]

LMP please refresh my memory, did SharkFinn claim his power role BEFORE the possibility that he was blocked?

And just because he's got a claimed ability does not mean he's got a proven alignment. I've seen plenty of scum redirectors, and only remember seeing a town one once (and that was in a Smalltown game).

I think it's pretty convenient that all the people you (or Tasky) have investigated so far have turned out to be dead people. That seems too convenient and I don't like it. I've seen scum do that more often than not, just to make their claim sound believable.

If you're not lynched, who do you plan to investigate tonight, LMP?

Your answer had better be what I hope it is. And if that person dies, you WILL be lynched tomorrow, no matter how much you whine and twist and squeal.

[ReaperCharlie]

I traveled back in time to hijack this quote
-- ooba from 2020

hahahahahahaha

nice.

[ReaperCharlie]

Ok. What the #%$&. Who are we lynching?

Pick somebody. Preferably whoever will give us the most info.

Not LMP though.

LMP I still don't think you've answered my question.

[ReaperCharlie]

Nope; I just looked back, you haven't answered me at all LMP.

Please do so post haste.

[ReaperCharlie]

Ok. What the #%$&. Who are we lynching?

Pick somebody. Preferably whoever will give us the most info.

Not LMP though.

LMP I still don't think you've answered my question.

still waiting for you to actually start playing this game, why don't you start playing, read up and give some advice instead of posting random garbage and getting upset when people don't take your questions seriously

i c wut u did thar chainsaw defense.

Now shut up and stop trying to critique my play.

And LMP, answer my question.

[ReaperCharlie]

I'm not scum crypto. Let's make an alliance with ckd though, I'm liking him.

[ReaperCharlie]

Things will change when the alliance is forged.

Given that you help lynch scum today, that is.

[ReaperCharlie]

I am sick of the third-person references. wtf stfu

[ReaperCharlie]

1. whoever is voting for someone for reasons other than "I think they are scum" (i.e. "they aren't especially pro-town, so... vote: X" doesn't cut it) is WRONG.
2. whoever is hopping around between votes and trying to divert all wagons into nothingness so we will be stuck with a no-lynch at the deadline is WRONG.
3. whoever is voting for me is obviously WRONG.
4. whoever is not answering my questions (i.e. lynchmepls) is WRONG.
5. if you are WRONG, right yourself or I'll make sure you get lynched.

[ReaperCharlie]

Fine, I'm about to replace out due to complete apathy in this game.

[ReaperCharlie]

No, just annoyed.

[ReaperCharlie]

not answering my questions (i.e. lynchmepls)

you think that is scummy?

yea pretty much. do you disagree?

Unvote; Vote: LMP

[ReaperCharlie]

Hmmmmmm... mb

- ok, TL was scummy because TL is always scummy. replying poorly to arguments, dancing around issues, not being very convincing as town, etc.
- the 'other half' of the post got deleted when I tried to use the save post feature on a computer that was having problems with cookies atm.

k what other questions did you have?

[ReaperCharlie]

What are you a lie detector or something?

[ReaperCharlie]

I don't know if I like this lynch (read: I do not) but wtf. we need somebody to die before the deadline.

I just wish we would lynch someone whose death and flip would tell us more.

I'd prefer to lynch SharkFinn or Mafuyu over Empking. If anyone has any reason why Empking is a better lynch, please speak up.

If I'm wrong and he does flip scum, I'll shut up and sheep for the rest of the game. Promise.

[ReaperCharlie]

LMP, I don't see the answer to my question in your ISO (maybe I'm not looking hard enough, who knows), so I'll ask it again:

If you aren't lynched

, who do you plan to investigate tonight with your claimed alignment cop ability?

[ReaperCharlie]

LMP, I don't see the answer to my question in your ISO (maybe I'm not looking hard enough, who knows), so I'll ask it again:

If you aren't lynched

, who do you plan to investigate tonight with your claimed alignment cop ability?

won't matter who he investigates, SF will just redirect him to somebody else

Um, if you think SF is scum, and going to try to redirect the cop to somebody else...

...then

why aren't you voting for him?

[ReaperCharlie]

LMP & Rob are obv buddies. I'll be OK with voting either of them.

Xcept until he came out as cop and cleared me I was pushing for his lynch

more scum points for you for trying to twist facts

The scum-buddying-up-to-town-who-are-trying-to-lynch-them trick is as old as the book itself.

[ReaperCharlie]

first of all, LMP is you really are a cop DO NOT TELL US WHO YOU WILL BE INVESTIGATING! RC, scum points for asking.

Um, do you not think he is a cop?

And how is it scummy to ask who he'll investigate? I just want to make sure he doesn't CONVENIENTLY investigate someone who dies tonight. If he claims who he's investigating tonight, he can't backtrack and switch it around tomorrow without looking terribly scummy and being lynched.

And as far as I know, there isn't any role that will be able to block him 'better' or redirect him 'better' if they know his target. If he's going to be blocked or redirected, they can do it easily with what they already know: that he is a claimed cop.


So to recap:

a) LMP, claim your target

right now

, or we swing you tomorrow.
b) CKD, if you still think it's scummy to ask..... shut the f^ck up.
c) CKD, do you really

not

believe that LMP is a cop? If not, why?

[ReaperCharlie]

LMP, I don't see the answer to my question in your ISO (maybe I'm not looking hard enough, who knows), so I'll ask it again:

If you aren't lynched

, who do you plan to investigate tonight with your claimed alignment cop ability?

won't matter who he investigates, SF will just redirect him to somebody else

Um, if you think SF is scum, and going to try to redirect the cop to somebody else...

...then

why aren't you voting for him?

In the off chance he is actually town, besides I am more suspicious of emp

I'm sorry, help me out real quick; tell me where the break in my thought process is:

-You think SharkFinn is a scum redirector (likely) and is going to redirect a (claimed) cop. REDIRECT A COP.
-You think Empking is scummy. (also, he conveniently happens to be the largest wagon at the moment).
-But on the OFF CHANCE that SharkFinn is TOWN (but for some reason, still going to redirect the cop?), you want to lynch Empking instead?

...

DOES.

NOT.

COMPUTE.

Unvote; Vote: Robbnva

[ReaperCharlie]

If you want some Empking meta, read POWERFUL WIZARD MAFIA. He played just as scummy, but was town. I was very disappointed that he wasn't the last scum. I correctly picked out the other two, but we got owned by a SuperTownie scum (Parama). But he acted at least as scummy in that game as he's acting in this game. And as far as I'm aware, he does it in every game.

And even if he didn't have that meta, he'd still be a terrible lynch, because lynching him will tell us

NOTHING

.

1. If you were town and thought SharkFinn was a scum redirector who was going to redirect our claimed cop, you'd be voting SharkFinn.
2. You aren't voting SharkFinn. You're voting Empking, who just happens to be the biggest wagon, but is also a TERRIBLE lynch candidate.
3. Ergo, I'm voting you.

THE GAUNTLET HAS BEEN THROWN.

Lynch Robbnva, pl0x.

[ReaperCharlie]

I started the wagon on emp and I break the walls on your crappy gauntlet

Nobody cares if you started a wagon on emp. And how can you break the walls of a gauntlet?

go ahead and lynch me, when I flip town maybe that will help others figure things out about you and sf

Appeal to Emotion (go ahead and lynch me). Fantastic. Also, I'm not scum. And if you think SF is scum, why aren't you voting for him?

and I'm not big on meta, cause I play the same way if I'm town or scum so sometimes it isn't helpful at all

That is immaterial. Meta, though sometimes deliberately confuddling, is extremely useful at times. Times like this.

emp lynch is wrong u say, but I don't trust you one bit

This is also immaterial.

only thing preventing me from voting you is I don't OMGUS vote(or try not to anyway)

If you think I'm scum, vote me. If you're not voting for who you think is scum, you're being an idiot.

you sir have been useless all game and have still done NOTHING to help the town

I'm helping the town right now by getting you lynched, boy.

u push lynches on cop and cleared player

Oh noes, boo hoo. Neither of them went through, did it? Now I'm pushing a lynch on flailscum.

if you beleive lmp is cop, you dont vote me

I believe if LMP is a cop, that he was wrong about you.

if you don't beleive lmp is cop, you would vote him

Or I would vote you first because you are more obvscum right now, and people still have town reads on LMP.

SEE, I can use your own logic right back at you big boy

The only problem is, my logic makes sense, and yours doesn't.

[ReaperCharlie]

1. Never lynch a claimed cop right away. That's one of the hardest fakeclaims to fake, given that you have to provide results every night from then on. If scum NK him, oh well, at least we won't have wasted a lynch.

2. Robbnva is probtown?

3. Do you honestly think that I would come into the game and get 'active' all of a sudden just to defend a scumbuddy (empking?). What, you think I'm stupid?

4. If Empking flips town, what then? Am I confirmed town to you then? Or do you think I'm just hopping in as scum to defend him because I know he'll flip town, which would make me look townier? Why wouldn't I just quicklynch him instead? WIFOMWIFOMWIFOM.

Point is, I'm active now, and I'm saying that Robbnva gets the rope.

[ReaperCharlie]

Your logic is wrong cause I am 100% town

Well, I must say, that's convincing. [/sarcasm]

your responses and acusations are just as Immaterial as u claim mine are

Do you even know what immaterial

means?

my vote is on my number 1 prime suspect right now so I am voting for who I think is scum

Do you think SharkFinn is a scum redirector? If so, you should be voting for him instead of Empking. Do I really need to explain why?

I'm not switching my vote cause the village idiot says I should

Are

you

literally calling

me

a VI? Seriously?

also lol at if lmp us cop, he is wrong about me. He said he was redirected to me and got town, if he is wrong than mod is giving him bad info and p.sure this isn't a bastard mod game, and he isn't wrong cause I am 100% town

If he's wrong, then maybe he was REDIRECTED. Which SharkFinn claimed to have done. What about that is so hard for you to understand?

doesn't matter anyway cause you don't beleive any claim, no matter who makes it

With the possibility of multiple scum factions, I'm sure there are all kinds of shenanigans going on.





But the one thing that sticks out like a sore thumb is that your WORDS and your ACTIONS do not match up.

[ReaperCharlie]

ckd. why not a Robbnva lynch.

[ReaperCharlie]

Um. Check your role PM again. Are you sure that's what you want to claim? Cause I don't exactly believe it as is.

Empking, what do you mean by "VT but hopefully a good name"?

[ReaperCharlie]

Robbnva: Defensive much? And what's with all the constant calling of VI?

He got his feelings hurt when he went to the wiki and read the definition for VI, and realized that I was calling him an idiot.





But now that we KNOW Robbnva is a VI for sure, that switches things around considerably. He's now probtown.

I agree that Empking is scummy, and I will lynch him if there aren't any other choices... but then again...

@Mafuyu: you should probably claim too, while we're at it. I am perfectly happy with a lynch on either of you.

[ReaperCharlie]

right now u pushed for cop lynch and his clear, you should be o. The hot seat more than anyone else.

If English is not your second language, and you are actually sober at the moment, then do us all a favor and please stop posting.

[ReaperCharlie]

Very interesting. I might as well claim. I am Leonardo da Vinci, a Time Traveler. Also a roleblocker.

Night 1 I blocked Karma
Night 2 I forgot to submit an action
Night 3 I blocked you, LMP

But the way you just posted makes me think you're super town (ugh, shoulda realized last night), so... yeah.

Discuss.

Also,

vote: Mafuyu

[ReaperCharlie]

Would you like a full claim?

No sh1t.

(excuse my language)

[ReaperCharlie]

It's pretty obvious that shenanigans went on last night, and now we should all be on a crusade to find out the truth of what actually went down.

Two NK's means two scumgroups (which means town has likely already lost, unless major crosskillage happens) or that there's an SK, which means town only has a slim chance of winning (again, only if major crosskillage happens). Unless we have an unclaimed vig lying around somewhere, which is also possible.

What we know:

-Empking and CKD died last night (duh, modconfirmed)
-I am a blocker and blocked LMP, causing him (cop) to receive a non-result.

(We know this because LMP volunteered it before anyone else volunteered anything else. It makes sense with what I know. And I know that I blocked him because, well, I am the one who did it.)

-Sharkfinn claims to have redirected Mafuyu to Empking (possibly lying)
-Mafuyu claims to have targeted me with "walkie talkie" (which is a neighborizing thing?) but gotten 'no-result' (possibly lying)
-Robbnva was modkilled yesterday because of a mod error and him being a VI and quoting his role PM.... LOOOOL
- anything else i missed?

Also, whoever believes that mumbo jumbo about me being a godfather because people got 'no result', don't. I'm not a godfather and even if I was, I'd still be neighborizable, and LMP would have gotten a 'town' result. So it makes absolutely no sense to suggest that, and if you believe it, you're dumb. AND stupid.

-----


Next point of order: Alliance time. Voting block.

Me, LMP, Sharkfinn, and crypto.

All voting together, all the time, no matter what.

You three down?

[ReaperCharlie]

Michael Jennings, Paycheck.
Non Time-Traveler

As explained before, Item JOAT. Flavor-wise, Mafuyu foresaw a scum victory, and thus prepared an envelope filled with random trinkets to turn the tide.

One-shot Roleblock
One-shot Motivate
One-shot Kill
One-shot Networker

Who were your targets for each night so far?

[ReaperCharlie]

I'm mostly onboard. The only question I have is why you include SharkFinn if you believe he might be lying.

I'm saying it's possible, I'm not saying it's probable. It's always good to separate what we KNOW from what we POSSIBLY know.

And besides... he appears genuinely sheepish about 'causing' Robbnva's modkill, even though it was Robbnva's own fault. SF seems legit to me.

[ReaperCharlie]

*skim-speculation*

Oh sh*t, Mafuyu gave himself a daykill, and he's threatening me and SF if we try to lynch him!





P.S. stop trying to talk like Zorb, or I will begin to call you Troll like I call him. That is a promise.

[ReaperCharlie]

Ok WTF. Why isn't John Connor OR Spock a Time Traveler? I call shenanigans.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pilot_(Ter ... hronicles)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek_(film)#Plot

[ReaperCharlie]

Also.... hmmm... My gut is telling me that nothing is as easy as it seems.

First question I bring to the table:

Why didn't LMP die last night?

If there are multiple scum factions, they'd both want the ONLY CLAIMED COP dead.

Discuss.