Open 253: Sea Container C9++ [GAME OVER]

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vote:Katsuki

How so?

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Katsuki's gone from calling a2rudeboy obv. scum, and not elaborating on it, to hopping aboard the Sleepless wagon.

I'm sure her first vote was a RVS, but even so, I'm keeping an eye on her.

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semi v/la until Saturday.

Sorry.

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I'm gonna have to extend my v/la until Monday Evening. Something's come up.

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I'm back early, but not a lot's happened.

@Katsuki elaborate on post #75 plz. Posts like this make me think you're scummy, because they contribute nothing but meaningless chat.

Also, andrew has contributed next to nothing, besides "I'm new to C9++."

Can I hear your scum reads, andrew?

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So, you're not going to elaborate on anything at all?

Helpful.

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Surely posting a meaningless post is anti-town? You're just posting for the sake of posting, to avoid a prod/mod kill, and you're coasting through. Thats my opinion anyway.

Re Mothrax: Asking for a massclaim is a silly idea, BUT I don't believe that Mothrax would be stupid enough to ask that if he was scum. Granted, I've only played with him once before, BUT he was town, so eh. Mass claiming on Day 1 in any set up, is, in my opinion, a pointless exercise which only distracts the town. However, his later explanation does explain his reasoning quite well, so I don't think I want to vote for him.

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Ahhh.

Andrew is irritating. I can't understand most of his posts. Also, I find that he doesn't know the wiki link to a lie. This is how he plays, though, and as irritating as it is, I don't think we can lynch him.

a2 is inactive in all his games. So, he isn't really lurking.

SA has claimed Roleblocker. I don't see any reason to disagree with him, although outing himself at not even L-1 is dumb.

I personally find Katsuki to be scummier, because SHE JUST TALKS LIKE THIS AND SO PEOPLE PAY ATTENTION TO HER BUT SHE'S NOT REALLY SAID ANY REASONS FOR ANYTHING.

So yeah. Sticking with my vote.

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In the thread.

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I was not happy with a no lynch, and I would've been happy with the lynch on Katsuki. I'd be interested to know why she replaced.

Anyway, I'll relieve some pressure a bit, and let the replacement get into the game, and see what happens.

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Oh, that's rich, coming from a dude with 6 posts. Nice one.

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I actually find it hard to believe that andrew is this stupid. He knows exactly how to contribute, he's played in other games, so don't indulge his stupid questions. They only serve to distract "Oh, I'm a poor lost little lamb who doesn't know anything." I call BS.

Moonwheel, a2 is jumping on the smallest thing to try and get me to react. That's the sort of thing you do on D1. Not D2. So no, you aren't getting away with that easily. It's a misrep, and misreps are scummy.

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Ald, I don't like how you jumped on me for a "policy vote" when I feel my reasons for voting Katsuki were, at that point, entirely justified. ALL SHE DID WAS TALK LIKE THIS AND NOT SAY ANYTHING. She just posted votes. That isn't helpful for the town. At all. Yet, it looks like she's doing something, when in reality she isn't. So, Katsuki/her replacement are still up there, but it'd be a little unfair to vote for the replacement until the replacement gets some kind of speech.

So, how was it a policy vote, exactly?

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As we know, SA was a power role

and power roles tend to get NK'd. I was curious how the NK WIFOM would play out. Would he be left alive to be mislynched? Would he be night killed? Would he remain alive because he was scum? It's not important now since that uncertainty has been resolved.

cough cough

Please explain?

You're really good at posting nothing, aren't you?

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What is that even supposed to mean? I came in as a replacement in that game, so obviously I'd have posted less.

Derp.

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Right, Andrew, the numbers are like this:

a2rudeboy: 8 posts, v/la in most of them, longest post is 6 lines long.

Alduskkel: 19 posts

Andrew: 40 posts

Yellowbounder/BlakAdder: 1 post, then 12 posts

jmj: 15 posts

Katsuki/Looker: 19 posts+ 1 post from looker, five daysago!

Mafuyu: 17 posts

Mongoose: 16 posts

Mothrax: 21 posts

Nexus: 15 posts

SA: 32 posts

So yes, I have few posts, but I'm pretty similar to everyone else except SA and you. So, how am I anymore lurky than anyone else?

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OH ALSO ANDREW, I draw your attention to this: http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 0#p2548010

Ergo, your argument about my lurking collapses, since you think meta fails.

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...what?

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*waves*

I'll get to a reread.

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You attempted to throw shit at me, too, in one post.

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Yeah, so from a re-read, my list of most scummiest are:

andrew94
Katsuki/Looker
a2rudeboy
mothrax
Mafuyu

I don't really have anything about the others. Briefly:

andrew94: He is a VI, this has been established out of the game. However, his play is so scummy it's ridiculous. He acts really stupid, he demands things without offering his own stuff, he insults other players, and he posts nothing but rubbish. His "analysis" is nothing worth reading.

Katsuki/Looker: KATSUKI PLAY WAS SCUMMY BECAUSE SHE DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING AT ALL EXCEPT POSTING LIKE THIS. Looker's posted a random thing on the last page, hasn't explained it, and hasn't posted anything else.

a2rudeboy: LURK LURK LURK LURK LURK. He's a pain. He hasn't even really contributed when he comes back from v/la.

mothrax: Massclaim thing. Also posts a random number and won't explain it. WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

Mafuyu: Her and Katsuki's plays are basically the same, imo anyway.

But yes, that's what I think.

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Also, VOTE: andrew94

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Oh, andrew's at L-1. We've got 2 days ish left, and I don't want to nolynch, so I hope somebody decides to either hammer him, or find someone else to quickly make a wagon on.

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Doesn't mean he should be excused. If people excuse his scumminess because "that's how he plays all the time," it means when he's actually scum, he can coast. :/

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Looker or you, for pretty much the same, lurky lurk reasons, but then Looker because of Katsuki's play.

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I don't believe Andrew's claim, really. It's an easy claim to make, as I can't see the other Mason outing themselves if they can avoid it.

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Urgh.

So, do we have anyone willing to hammer andrew?

We can't really go for a full new wagon unless we can agree. I want to lynch today, and I'm not really bothered who anymore if Andrew isn't going to get lynched. So, which wagon would each person agree to go onto?

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I was thinking that as well, I was sure he'd given some sort of defence as well, which was poor, and why I kept my vote on him. So, jmj, what exactly are you waiting for?

Also, don't you think andrew might conveniently fail to post before the deadline and therefore avoid having to answer and force a no lynch?

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Why?

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Argh,

This is so damn frustrating. Alduskkel has successfully avoided any suspicions and has now flaked out. Screw that.

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Just a question: How long are we going to wait for a2's "thoughts tonight"? (4th November). I'm pretty sure it's not tonight anywhere?

Lurky lurk lurk :/

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He lurks as everything, though, so it's a null. I was playing as a Mason with him, and he lurked like hell. It irritates me, but it doesn't mean he's scummy.

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Well, he lurked ridiculously in the CSL game myself and he were in. iirc he lurked a bit in my first game, too.

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Also,

semi-vla until Sunday night

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Thanks for that, a2. We really gained a lot from it.

When you actually come in and provide something of merit, then I'll listen to you.

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Also, a2, I have been lurking less than you. Surely if I'm scum, that makes you scum too?

I haven't really posted too much, but at the rate the last day has gone, who really has?

I'd be happy to lynch you, you made us wait for that post and said very little in it, and your lurking is more detrimental than anyone elses. VOTE: a2rudeboy

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Alduskkel requested replacement so everyone got off his back. Mod can't find a replacement. I say we lynch him anyway.

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I am tempted to hammer, just to get some kind of activity. I'll wait for the claim though.

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Holy skrit, Katsuki was the doctor? Really?

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I've voted a2. The only person I'd be happy to change to is Mongoose.

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No, because he's scummy as shit. He's done sod all every day so far.

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Read his ISO. He's spent a lot of time whinging about activity, and the rest of it not really saying much.

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Deadline is tomorrow. Can we not no lynch again.

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Doesn't mean we should be pissing about not lynching someone.

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Accuse me of OMGUS all you want, I don't particularly care. If it gets some activity, then so be it.

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We're all brimming with anticipation, a2.

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I'm actually really interested on what it'll be?

"Nexus hasn't contributed much."

*dies*

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Also, I forgot to add,

v/la until Monday evening

I hope when I get back a2 has come up with a wonderful case for me to refute. Or y'know, that he's been lynched.

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Just hammer him.

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Oh yeah, fail counting is fail. My bad.

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God, I hate playing with you fitz

I'd be happy to vote for either mongoose or jmj, both of them strike me as scummy.

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Because you're an impatient man

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VOTE: jmj3000

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oh wait,

unvote

dnw quicklynch.

SCUMHUNT WOO.

Defend yourself and scumhunt plz.

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Picking up prod. Nothing more to say. Will hammer is jmj doesn't post within 48 hours.

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Oh, I have noticed that Mongoose has never been prodded. But he also doesn't post much. Active lurking, much?

He's my second target.

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Nice AtE there.

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Why is fitz clear? I mean, I don't disagree, I just can't remember.

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Doesn't automatically make you not-scum, but eh. I'm willing to roll with that.

Mongoose. or SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS. That's our scumbag.

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Vanilla townie woo.

Blakadder~

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Well, I'm always gonna vote SSS over Blakadder and myself x]

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I don't think BlakAdder is scum...

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Well, then perhaps he is scum.

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I have nothing more to add. I think that SSS is scum, because I thought Alduskkel was scum who flaked when the pressure got too much, and I still don't understand why that wagon slowed down and stopped. I would then, obviously, vote Blakadder, since noone's CCed Mongoose, and Fitz seems pretty town. So, that's all I really have to say.

I'm town, Fitz and Mongoose seem town, and out of the two, SSS then Blakadder would be my choice.

VOTE: SSS

Happy now?

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Argh,

This is so damn frustrating. Alduskkel has successfully avoided any suspicions and has now flaked out. Screw that.

Alduskkel requested replacement so everyone got off his back. Mod can't find a replacement. I say we lynch him anyway.

I didn't put a vote down, no, but he was at L-1 at one point, I threatened to hammer. He was being questioned, but disappeared before being forced to answer. Then, we gave SSS an easy ride.

As for my interactions re: a2 and andrew. Both were telling the truth: a2 does lurk as town, and andrew is a village idiot, so it's hard to get a read on him.

If you want to lynch me, and it helps you get scum, go ahead.

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Oh, yeah I must've misread my iso.

I was sure Ald was close to it before he started flaking, but clearly not. Sorry

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The fact I'm wrong about the Ald wagon not existing doesn't change the fact that he flaked when there was a little bit of pressure on him, and I would rather lynch him today, then BA tomorrow.

We don't have a case on you, really BA. It's a case of SSS making more of a defense at the minute, so people are more pro-him.

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Good Game. Fitz came in and saved the game.

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Yeah, I fail to see, really, what advantage we had learning andrew was a roleblocker.