StrangerCoug's Worst Nightmare IIIS: The Dungeon (Game over)

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Where were we?

Oh yes! That's right!

Vote: Framm 18

Let's just get back to where we left off :')

[Lady Lambdadelta]

NOT THIS SHIT AGAIN STRANGER.

GOD FUCKING DAMN IT. >.<

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Unvote Vote LLD

Mafuyu is interested.

...?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I still don't really understand the point of RVS... >.<

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Icebreaker.

Seriously? So it has no real purpose other than to get conversation going?

I was expecting more

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Antitown? My name's Antihero.

How does it follow from your reasoning that LLD is more likely to be scum?

If he can seriously come up with a valid argument, this early on, with little more than me questioning a vote as evidence, I'll be shocked.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I'm going to take a page from Ellibereth's book here.

Town:
Mafuyu
Antihero

Null:
Me=Weird
Espeonage

Scum:
LLD
smargaret

Can't translate atm:
chesskid3

Haven't Posted:
Everyone else

Call me when we stop discussing post restrictions, please.

I'm afraid to ask, but can you provide reasoning for these? Or is it just a list you threw together half assed, to make it look like you were contributing?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I'll...try? LOL

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Chesskid, if you find his reaction excessive, why are you still holding onto your RVS vote?

*her

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Chesskid, if you find his reaction excessive, why are you still holding onto your RVS vote?

*her

Oh, and chesskid was talking about me. The world doesn't revolve around you, you know. :p

Orly?

>.< My bad then.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Rereading, chesskid, why are you playing the newb card on LLD's behalf (if I'm interpreting you right)? I was under the impression she was an alt account and not a new player.

I'm no alt. :S This be my first account on MS.

I've had friends who have played here before though...

[Lady Lambdadelta]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06s-exrK ... re=related
Warning: This is animu. You've now been warned.

Very Shoujo. Or at least, the OP is.

Why am I discussing this?

Aside: Mafuyu. What are your avvies of because they are cool.

Now to content. UNVOTE: chesskid[/vote] I think that went well but it has run it's course.

VOTE: LLD

Can you explain the "content" on this vote? Because you claim it exists, yet you give none.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

LL's in this game?
Well, she's overreacted to a random vote, when a semi-random bandwagon pops up on her, she says she doesn't understand the point of RVS, despite seeming to know perfectly well a couple of her posts ago. Looks like she's just trying to remove the bandwagon on her.
And I would think it's obvious that there's no ulterior purpose of rvs, judging from the "random" part of it.
Why would you be afraid to ask for reasoning? Reads to me like scum trying to discredit her attacker, especially with the "Or is it just a list you threw together half assed, to make it look like you were contributing?".
A bunch of fluff(though if you're not an alt, why does your signature say "the one formerly known as 24mole"?
In general, LL has

• Overreacted.
  
• Insulted RVS when a wagon pops up on her.
  
• Insulting one of her attackers.
  
• Active lurked.

Yeah, this is better than a random vote.

Vote: Lady Lamdadelta

Eh. My only defense to those claims is that I wasn't over reacting... I just don't understand the reasons behind RVS. Weak defense I know, but I don't really have anything else to say about it.

Though, how am I active lurking this early in the game?


Fluff: 24mole was my old EM account name. >.< Joined that site back when it was still like, on its first legs. I made a lot of friends there, who may or may not be on MS. Figured it was best to place that there, see if any of them remembered me

This is my first MS account.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Town:

The Stove
Mafuyu
Espeonage
Twomz
Antihero

Null:

Me=Weird
Tasky
Reckamonic
Nero Cain
Nobody Special
chesskid3
smargaret

Scum:

sakshijain
Baby Spice
LLD

Haven't Posted:
Everyone else

EVERYONE ON THIS LIST:
bhavitgoyal
Blooderection
Framm 18
manho
Nero Cain
Nobody Special
Reckamonic
smargaret
Tasky

Please post more so I can read you. Some of these people have yet to post, the rest need to up the content level.

Also google translator is hilarious

In essence, foam / scum entire city can be found by how they act - are usually more defensive because they know that the city is the city while the city is sending out probes everywhere to hear people. Overreact to these probes and also for events that occur are a particular favorite of mine.

Side note: EM sucks now, LLD. I played for a while earlier this year, but... every single player there is just godawful now. Sigh.

I'm in total concurrence. There is no longer any attractant for me to that site.

It was good for me, back when I could play with Nikoscook/PE/Lucid/RedCoyote/Zyrconium/WillianGallis/OTB and others. You know, people who were decent players.

It's really gone down hill... and that's a shame.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Gah. Keep forgetting You have that massive fucking list in your posts...

>.<

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I don't know about that since it got a reaction.

Orly.

And what have you learned from the "reaction"?

That you and Parama are both scum.

unvote

Mindread: Baby Spice

OH LOL.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Claim is kinda irrelevant. Vanilla townie.

-shrug- There's not much I can do to prevent this. I'm not going to flip scum, but it's not a bad lynch.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Man, so many people hoppin' off and on mah wagon.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

This is a townie who knows when to accept a lynch.

When I flip town, a LOT of people are going to have explaining to do, concerning their opportunistic wagon hopping.

If you want, I could point them out for you... but you would call me desperate.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Or is that considered a bad way to play on this site?

I've always seen the lynch of a VT claim as good evidence for the next days scum hunting, in what experience I have.

If I'm not right, please tell me. I won't continue.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Blue is my thoughts.

Mafuyu

: RVS vote and kept it on, I haven't seen a reason yet; I have seen a bunch of active lurking, though. IGMEOY

What does IGMEOY mean? :S Also, I'm not entirely convinced of Mafuyu's active lurking. I'm just thinking she probably left her vote on me, once some valid points were raised.

Parama

: While the initial scumread isn't backed up, Parama does give implicit reasons for the LLD vote. I'm getting townvibes from him so far, so I think this is a good vote.

I gave a rather weak, but true, explanation for the points he raised. I can't blame him for calling me on them, TBQH. If I do somehow live through this, he would be someone I think is almost obvtown. Not quite, but very close.

Me=Weird

: The vote is backed up with solid reasons. I'm thinking Me=Weird is town too.

The reasons he stated are basically cut and pasted from Parama. Not that there's anything WRONG with that... it just sort of comes out as a wash for me. Not a BAD vote, but certainly not... original.

Antihero

: I supported my vote with legit reasons.

Eh. See Me=Weird.

Twomz

: Not sure what to make of this one. The vote isn't backed up, but that doesn't stick out in his ISO...

Case #1 of Bandwagon riders who I suspect. No evidence provided. If you ask, I'm sure he'll recycle the points Parama/Me=Weird/Antihero made.

Reckamonic

: The buddying with parama is sending up a few red flags for me. This wagon hop is scummy.

I don't have enough info for a read on this hydra ATM.

Nobody Special

: Criticizes the first few pages of discussion, and then actively lurks, throwing an unexplained LLD vote in there. This wagon hop is scummy as well.

Case #2 of Bandwagon riders who I suspect. See Twomz.

chesskid3

: I don't see a good reason with your vote. In fact, I think we left our first few pages argument at "I wasn't saying LLD was more likely to be scum, I was just helping her out." IGMEOY too.

Chesskid's stance was originally a wash on me. He states "I don't want to lynch LLD". He then flips his entire stance, in a matter of 2-3 pages. Very interesting. Case #3.

Blooderection

: Misrepresentation of Espeonage + the awkward wagon hop = scummy; to me, this looks like scum eager to get to a lynch, which gives me some qualms with an LLD lynch...

This is something I don't get. At all. The vote he placed was so... confusing. I'd like to hear more from on him on why he switched his vote so suddenly.

That's all.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

.

@Lady Lamdadelta: IGMEOY = I've got my eye on you

Now, how about people not on your wagon? Whether or not you're town, I'm thinking the entire scumteam wouldn't want to be caught on your wagon. Anyone else stick out to you?

There are a lot of people who are really lurking and hiding in the shadows...

It's suspicious, but until we see some content from the likes of Framm,Tasky,Manho,Bhaveit it's impossible to tell who is just inactive, and who is deliberately lurking.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Bhavit was just replaced in a newbie game for not picking up a prod.


Don't know what to think about LLD, but I really don't like the wagon. Don't think there's enough to go on yet.

Sounds like a cop out to me.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Mwen rayi ou, moun ki touye m '

ITT Nero Cain hates us all.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Yo, i mean like... you jumped on and off that wagon like three times. could be perceived as non-committal scum. Just now you actually see that there could be a lynch. I dunno, I'm just saying.

lolwat? Yeah, I tend to not commit to wagons I realize are being ridden by scum.

And you do realize this post is hypocritical, right?

Lol, so three out of nine players is ridden by scum. nice

Did you read the massive post Antihero made? Outlining his take on all 10 people involved in my bandwagon?

More than 3 people he suspects. The three he named for you are just his main three, if I am interpreting correctly.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Don't think there's enough to go on yet.

>9 pages
>Not enough to go on

Nice quote out of context there Parama. In your case though there's plenty to go on.

VOTE: Parama

You're not helping your case at all with this. This is bordering on an OMGUS vote.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

OH SHIT.

My vote is still on Framm. LOL

Unvote

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Right now I like Baby Spice as Scum more than BloodErection.

For the simple fact that BloodErection's vote swap MAY have been based upon some deluded town logic... where as Baby Spice is just scumming it up in every way. Cop out post to avoid being linked to any wagon + an OMGUS vote on Parama = Scummy

Vote: Baby Spice

[Lady Lambdadelta]

OH SHIT.

My vote is still on Framm. LOL

Unvote

@ Mod: Here it is

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Baby Spice. Need I remind you Nero Cain is Mafia? He was confirmed by the mafia flip.

If Nero Cain was "dumping you both in it deep" as you so state, would that not be more of a town tell for them? I mean, what are the chances he was trying to bus BOTH of his scum buddies (assuming, as you say, they are both scum)?

Please enlighten me.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Sorry guys. Been really busy. >.<

Let me read again, and provide more evidence for why I think Baby Spice should get lynched.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

My posts in blue again.

Parama's first 11 posts. I'm aparently scum for 'opertunistic bandwagoning' Anything else from him is pretty much a response to me calling him scum.

It's what you were doing. You never provided a legit reason for your vote. It would be different if you had.

The Stove. "one of the worst votes I've seen on MS" The worst, and most scum, reason for voting someone. That's the entire reason btw, no explanation or anything. Nothing much after that for a while except some attempt to poo poo my responses. "Orly."

The vote was rather weak... not enough info to claim you are scum, but compiled with everything else... it's worth noting.

Oh, as for Antihero. "@NC: Could you please specifically point out the chesskid hypocrisy? Also, what do you think about Baby Spice and Tasky's first posts?"
N C, known scum, specifically quotes Anti-hero, who then directs a specific question at NC, who then answers it back, again with Antihero quoted. That is enough linkage in N C's two posts to make me seriously look at Antihero. His responses/interactions/budying to Parama, who you must note is pointedly not voting me, is enough to reinforce that back linkage. (25% of Anti's posts reference Parama in some way, from a RVS type vote for him to calling him obv town in a wagon analysis.)

Meaningless conjecture. The conclusion you are drawing here is that because Anti-hero was asked a question by a confirmed scum and happens to have similar point of view and someone else you have OMGUS'd, that makes him scum? I think not. Also, this is an example of you avoiding the OMGUS on Parama, and shifting your target elsewhere.

N C scum would make me suspect Antihero as scum. Parama scum would make me suspect Antihero as scum. hence, Antihero is scum.

See above. Stupid statement.

quote from The Stove. "Tasky and Baby Spice are scummy". (8 posts before N C was vigged you must note) Hmm, this is an echo of Antihero's question to NC, you know our only flipped scum. Why would we have two people actively suypporting/seeking the opinion of our only scum flip.

It's become quite clear to me that N C, Antihero, Parama, and The Stove are all working from the same plan, supporting each other, and that there can only be one reason for that.

If you can prove the connection, great. I see no proof yet. I still only see conjecture. Please provide more solid evidence than "they all target the same people as scum".

Scum, scum, scum, scum.

Espeonage is also on my list, though with nowhere near the certainty as the other three.

Shifting the target away from yourself, or attempting too... where's the evidence? Proof?

First 13 or so posts, 3 blatant bandwagon votes for no reason at all including comments on each change of vote about the wagon running it's course, and what I suspect is absolutely no content. iso #11 "I will make a post with content when there is something new happening."

I don't see this from Espenonage. I get a null read from him. His posts are dripping with content and evidence, but he has made some good points.

Now I might just go so what normally, but these 14 or so posts are exactly what Parama, The Stove, and N C are accusing me of, so I have to wonder why target me and not Espeonage. Especially Parama and The Stove.

POLICY LYNCH NOW PLEASE. I have a personal scum tell off anyone who asks "why me?" Why me is super scummy. Also, shifting the target from yourself and onto Espeonage. Majorly scummy.

[/color]

I endorse a Baby Spice lynch, over a BE one at this point in time.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Antihero, can we please lynch BS before BE? She's so much scummier than he is.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

LLD is town for the reaction to the his own lynch.

*her

>.<

[Lady Lambdadelta]

WTF Manho. 4 posts in a 15 page game, and not a single bloody piece pf anything, culminated by voting as you go vla.

Valid point.

Manho, why do think BS is obvscum?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

EWBOP: Oh. He went V/La..... >.<

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I lol'd.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

We love you anyway SC <3

-secretly giggles at his strugles-

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Of course! I stick by that, for real.

I'm just poking fun at you

Seriously, you're just over-compensating, to make sure you don't make a mistake. Relax, and you'll do fine. You're a great mod.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

That reminds me.

Vote: Tasky

Nice fast hammer you got der.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

That reminds me.

Vote: Tasky

Nice fast hammer you got der.

*accidental fast hammer

What do you mean accidental? He voted, with the vote count saying 8 on BS, and 1 extra vote. Makes 9, plus his? He couldn't count them?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I thought the mod said that he had missed an earlier vote. Unless I'm misreading something? .-.

Did he? Maybe I'm the one who's confused >.<

[Lady Lambdadelta]

@Mod: Was the lynch yesterday the cause of a miscounted vote?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Ok. Wasn't Tasky's fault then.

Unvote, Vote: BloodErection

Using our amazing scum hunting skills...

[Lady Lambdadelta]

xvart. I suggested the same thing at the beginning of SWIII. I quickly realized the following.

Even if scum WERE to /fake/ a PR, to seem town, it's WIFOM trying to determine who, if any, are faking.

Also, it's likely that SC has set 1 person from the mafia side, to have a legit PR, just to balance.

Discussing PR's and how they affect us, yields no information past the point of "who wants to translate shotty's post now?"

Drop the subject, and move on to other suspicious activities.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Also, this many scum dropping by D2 makes me curious.

First off... that night kill HAD to have been a SK, or some kind of PGO.

There's no way we would be able to have a dayvig, in ADDITION to a nightvig. Too unbalanced.

And, if its just a PGO... we just had 3 scum drop on us.

Noting that in the last game, there were only 4 scum (and an SK) this seems like... extreme.

If the results of the flips we are getting aren't correct (I'm seriously doubting that the DayVig was able to kill 2 scum in a row like that, AND that some kind of SK managed to off a 3rd scum for us), then we need to proceed a little more cautiously.

This is all speculation of course. There's no real evidence that ANY of this is true. But I'm just really put at unease with the thought of 3 scum deaths, and none of them being lynches.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Chesskid, there is the chance of a town roleblocker.

Note: In SWNIII, Dramonic was town roleblocker.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Tasky has no votes. I switched to BE

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Yo... so why am i still the best lynch for today?

Yo... might I add that if we had lynched the claimed VT.... WE WOULDN'T HAVE LYNCHED THE COP!

slightly hypocritical of me to say, but still... the town sucks here -.-

Vote: Tasky

-gives off major scum vibes to me.

Try reading the thread next time. I asked the mod if the lynch yesterday was caused by a miscount of the votes. This was confirmed. Tasky was not at fault for the lynch.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

DAMN. THAT MUFFIN LOOKS DELICIOUS.

Also, can someone translate Chess' post for me? I cba to do it.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I'd like to hear it smargaret.

There can never occur a bad result from hearing MORE information.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Here's a question.

Is the best move in your mind still to lynch me? @BE

If so, provide evidence of scum.

If not, who do you suspect most ad provide evidence of scum.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

LLD:

Right now I like Baby Spice as Scum more than BloodErection.

For the simple fact that BloodErection's vote swap MAY have been based upon some deluded town logic... where as Baby Spice is just scumming it up in every way. Cop out post to avoid being linked to any wagon + an OMGUS vote on Parama = Scummy

Vote: Baby Spice

The case: OMGUS, and and just calling BS scummy without really saying why. This is a very weak vote, almost entirely based on OMGUS. It looks a bit to me like scum trying to get a bandwagon going. Conclusion:

Scum.

My vote wasn't an OMGUS vote.

And nor was the case solely based upon the vote on Parama. That was simply the Straw that broke the camels back, causing me to vote for her.

Read my ISO, and see the posts I have made on BS, and the case I presented before you misrep me.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

there is no such thing as OMGUS.

lolwut?

Maybe, if my theory gets confirmed, I can even explain it tomorrow. I am not promising that, though.

"If you guys let me live long enough to use my power tonight..."

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Does this mean SC's OCD about inviting first will save us?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I'm kind of not feeling well.

>.<

Im still active though.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Yeah! Let's just use a PERSONAL META to determine a lynch, with no other cause or justification!



Don't make me laugh. The non-existance case against smargret is almost as transparent as you are.

Do we have any OTHER takers? Anyone ELSE want to make a lynch suggestion before we continue to lynch mothrax?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I can confirm the above statement.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

This argument is ridiculous. Drop it antihero. ESP will not come around, so convincing him is pointless.

In other news, Mothrax has claimed VT. L-1... Does someone want to make this hammertime?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Well... that's nice to see! No deaths!

Vote: Toon Fighter

My votes gonna hang out right here for now. I want to do a read of Reckamonic and xvrt, and I'll see if I can get a block post consisting of the cases against those 2, aswell as TF.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I have a slight problem with the reveals that have occurred so far. Looking back, when 1 death happens at night, and it's of a mafia member (See: Day 2 start) and the previous night kill was not revealed, maybe due to a janitor (See: Day 1 Start), as well as 2 Day Kills, that both sprung mafia flips...

Doesn't this seem a little too easy? We haven't even lynched a scum yet... to the contrary, we have lynched a cop and a VT.

I'm thinking that maybe this day killer has some kind of millerizing effect AND/OR the Night kills are being masked by the mod or some other power.

In short: it seems unlikely to me that 3 scum are dead, and none of them have been lynched by us.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

EBWOP: It would be really nice if someone had a forensic role...

[Lady Lambdadelta]

There's probably a 'mafia janitor' or one of the roles kills is set so that there's no flip (when we kill the role it would normally reveal flips).

@ Tasky: I said at the beginning it was me pointing out the obvious.

Don't forget your post restriction Twomz.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Why was a town JOAT acting so... Weird?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Why my lynch. I was basically the only person who pointed out how stupid the TF case was and it turns out I was right.

"Why me." All I have to say.

Vote:Espeonage

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I never said I see him to be town. I said that I don't see him being scum, that's a totally different thing.

You don't see him as town. You don't see him as scum. Do you see him at all? What townish things did you find in Esp's ISO? What scummy things did you find in Esp's ISO?

tell me you never had a null-read on someone in your life.

Generally a null read would consist of some Scum reads and some Town reads. Please provide both.

@Stove: my current scum reads are Esp, Tasky, xvrt and Manho.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

@Antihero: I am more active in games that I'm more interested in. Inactivity is a sign of disinterest, and I've never been able to make a game interesting myself, so...

If the numbers are the same from last game, that means more than half the scumteam is already dead.

What needs to happen for you to get interested?!

LLD

, you're starting to make me regret not hammering you Day 1.

Can I draw up cases and do ISO reads later, when I'm NOT on an iPhone?

Facking impossible to post any kind of text block on these things.

I can do 1 main read right now. Which of those 4 would you most like a case on? I'll get it done.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

@Antihero: I am more active in games that I'm more interested in. Inactivity is a sign of disinterest, and I've never been able to make a game interesting myself, so...

If the numbers are the same from last game, that means more than half the scumteam is already dead.

And we haven't lynched a single one of them. Yay, we're playing a good town game! Yeah right. Our daykiller is playing a good town game, everyone else is doing pretty awful.

The fact remains that I still don't trust our flips in this game. The fact that all our day/night kill flips have been either: Unknown(1), Mafia(3) or None (1) is troubling.

Where as we have lynched: Cop(1) VT(1)

No town deaths by way of kill=suspicious Lambda

[Lady Lambdadelta]

LLD: See Toon Fighter flipping town.

.

Oh. Right. >.<

Shit I'm sorry. That really makes what I said invalid.


@Antihero: Based upon who flips as what, and what their roles/claims are, I would develop new suspects. If you want me to make a full on list like Parama, I'll oblidge?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Don't worry about it AH. I understand.

I'll get some kind of List posted asap.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Why was I prodded? >.<

[Lady Lambdadelta]

tl;dr: Instead of the town lynching scum and the vig killing VIs, the town is lynching VIs and the vig is killing scum.

This.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

ok, after KoC posted that big post, can we go back to serious things and vote Chronopie?

Reasoning for voting Chrono is... What exactly?

If you are aiming to lynch a Sage claim, why would you choose Chrono over Substrike?

If it has nothing to do with the sages, what exactly makes you feel like Chrono is the best lynch today?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

ok, after KoC posted that big post, can we go back to serious things and vote Chronopie?

Reasoning for voting Chrono is... What exactly?

If you are aiming to lynch a Sage claim, why would you choose Chrono over Substrike?

If it has nothing to do with the sages, what exactly makes you feel like Chrono is the best lynch today?

sages? what are you talking about?

Pardon me, and excuse that post. I happen to be playing LoZ:OoT Mafia, which Chrono is also in.

I got confused as to which game I was posting in. @_@

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I'm only in 2 games damn it!

>.<

[Lady Lambdadelta]

And one of them is OoT.

QFT

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Tasky and Parama, the argument you are having is pointless. >.<

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Oh shit.

That's a harsh and swift punishment SC.

No warning issued? =O

Oh well, it's your call. Your mod, your rules ^_^

Sorry Xvrt?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Well, xvart's gone so I'm not gonna respond to that mess.

Espeonage, where's your vote?

I'm sorry. I would humbly request that you DO respond to it. Even if he will not return, I would like to see the response.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I lol'd.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I don't know, maybe because it looks like you dodged it? You're still dodging it... You haven't answered nearly the entire post.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Uh... I think you need to respond to his point about the serious lack of evidence you have provided in your case on BE, as shown in your posts and discussion of your case on BE.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Passive aggresive.

Deflecting attention.

Avoiding questions.

To answer YOUR question: TF was day vigged before I created a case, reckamonic replaced out, and xvrt solved my questions about his game play around the time he started looking into you.

But back to YOUR play. You continue to avoid things, even now resorting to attacking me, rather than providing cases that I request.

Unvote; Vote: The Stove

This is the play today.

P-Edit: Antihero, shut up. You have contributed less than I have. In fact, about all you've said is "I should have hammered LLD". If you find me so god damn scummy, post a case FFS!

[Lady Lambdadelta]

EBWOP: I'm Going to sleep. So I'll have to respond to whatever half assed defense you raise in the morning.

I have a pounding headache and it's not doing me any favors in my demeanor. Sorry to those I offend or am rude to.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

What confirmation do we have that Tasky was telling the truth/that his power was even pro-town?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

@Mod:

I'm going to be in and out the next few days, and be V/LA at random times. This may include a period that is over 72 hours, it may only be for periods of like, 2 hours at a time, depending on whether I can get internet where I'm going, and how long it takes me to drive back when I'm done. In any case, there will be times in the next few days in which I will be absent. It probably won't be an issue, but I just wanted to give you a heads up in case I do go over the 72 hour limit.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I don't know why I'm even going to say this, because both sides are just going to rage at me...

But I'm getting a vibe that Parama v. Fate is Town on Town.

Fate has come in and given a whole load of content to a rather... inactive game. I thank him for this, because I'm one of the main reasons that there is no content, and I'll admit that.

But Parama's lists don't read as anti-town for me. It actually is helpful, because it shows me where Parama stands, and if there is ever a read I find is weird or unbased I can easily reference back to his lists to call him on it, and request a case.

Unfortunately, Parama's defense is weak. Parama, stop getting raged up, and keep a level head. Just focus on scumhunting, and show everyone why you are town, if you are indeed a town player.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

... I said don't defend yourself. I said just keep scum hunting and prove to us why you are town, if that is indeed the case.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Prove to us, by scum hunting, is what I said.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Parama... Fate doesn't like how you scumhunt... and your lists are... ok to see your positions, but not great in actual case material.

Can you post some full cases?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

UNVOTE: VOTE: The Stove

Coulda sworn I'd posted yesterday. guess not...

Brief points: Parama/Stove feels TvT.

Manho's #828 is just... denial for the sake of denial. No real effort made in defending. Scum vibes.

LLD is fluffy. Whether fluffy scum or fluffy town...

Nacho made a good entry in to the game (better than I did at least), town read there too.

Summary: VOTE: Manho,

FoS: LLD

Parama | Stove | Nacho are prob-town

Null on everyone else.

UNVOTE: VOTE: Chronopie

UNVOTE: VOTE: smargaret

VOTE: Toon Fighter

Parama, why do you think I am town? In particular, what changed since post 543?

4 Prime Examples of Tasky not explaining ANY of his votes? Including his most recent one .

Is it common practice to vote without giving reasonsing?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Fate... I've explained why my vote Is on Stove.

When deadline draws nearer, if nothing changes I'll join a larger wagon.

Otherwise, I like where my vote is right now.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Parama.... you're not helping anything.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I'm open to all arguments.

I like to see equal representation of all sides of a discussion.

If one is left out, the discussion is incomplete.

Please continue.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Wait wait wait...

Let me get this straight.

Because someone disagreed with you, they are now scum?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

This game has blown up into a shit load of personal insults and all that good stuff...

Can we please step away from that, and get back to making valid points?

I think AH is trying to say Fate is Tunneling on the people he's pushing, because he doesn't even know who else is in the game?

That's just what I got out of that...

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Self-meta is kinda pointless if no one can verify it.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Parama, you're really not helping your case with all this "I'm town because I say I'm town, so anyone who votes me is an idiot" argument.

It's counter-productive.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Parama: that's more of the same.

"You won't lynch who I think is scum, because I'm the only one who can be right. Either go with me on MY reads, or your useless."

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Parama, can you give me a case on your top scum read please?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Passive aggresive.

Deflecting attention.

Avoiding questions.

To answer YOUR question: TF was day vigged before I created a case, reckamonic replaced out, and xvrt solved my questions about his game play around the time he started looking into you.

But back to YOUR play. You continue to avoid things, even now resorting to attacking me, rather than providing cases that I request.

Unvote; Vote: The Stove

This is the play today.

P-Edit: Antihero, shut up. You have contributed less than I have. In fact, about all you've said is "I should have hammered LLD". If you find me so god damn scummy, post a case FFS!

I think this counted as a reason. 3 of them.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I'm putting my case on him on hold for now... Looking at Parama.

He's being way too anti-town. >.<

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Could Antihero buddy up with people anymore?

I swear, the first day or so, he had no problem buddying with Parama. The only time he went against Parama is when Fate replaced in.

He found a new leader to sheep? I get a strong town read on Fate... And I HAD a strong town read on Parama, up until he stopped contributing ANYTHING.

I'll do an ISO of AH later, but seriously, could you please be Your own person? I mean, rather than "LOL FATE, DAT WAS SO FUNNY! I CAN'T EVEN TYPE MY POST TO GIVE MY ARGUMENTS BECAUSE YOURS ARE SO GOOD, ILL JUST USE THEM, AND MAKE THEM LOOK LIKE MY OWN".

Thanks.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Antihero, do you remember when you were upset that you had been moved down to "Null" on Parama's scum list?

I was being too... harsh in my last post. What I was saying was that for a period of time, you had a very town read on Parama, and were happy and content to let him and his lists run through this game. Once Fate comes in, you begin to stray from Parama and his lists (which are being bashed by Fate) and over to a more Pro-Fate stance.

Reading your ISO, I shouldn't have said what I said before. You have always been a town read for me, I just forgot what made you a town read in the first place. Reading back on the BabySpice Lynch, Nero Cain death D1/D2 stuff, makes me feel a lot better about you than I did this morning. >.<

Still though, can you tell me if you are still in support of Parama's lists? Or are you now condemning them? That was my only point. And I should have made it in a way that was more appropriate to the relevance of that point.

-sigh- This game is making me rage.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Just a point of Meta... in the last SWN that got halted, I was a SK, who's win con was to see half the town die, and live to that point.

Just sayin'. Maybe leaving Tasky alive isn't such a good idea?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I'd ask why you are so quick to drop them, when you were so worried about them a few days ago, when your town read dropped to a null read?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Just a point of Meta... in the last SWN that got halted, I was a SK, who's win con was to see half the town die, and live to that point.

Just sayin'. Maybe leaving Tasky alive isn't such a good idea?

I'm... I'm trying not to address this with a range of insults I have prepared.

Let's just say you weren't a normal fucking SK, and if you didn't know that, stop playing mafia. There are competent replacements.

But I think you knew that.

Neither is he, considering his kills are delayed.

I'm wondering if he had the same deal I did.

Considering the "half town dead" clause was not something I added, but rather what SC added.

But you're probably right... I'm just saying that SC has been known to throw that win-con in there, and he re-used his "lost role" flavor. So, it's possible.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I'd ask why you are so quick to drop them, when you were so worried about them a few days ago, when your town read dropped to a null read?

Yeah, that bugged the crap out of me then, but I don't really care now.

Why are you wasting your vote, LLD? Wasted votes pollute the ocean and suffocate sea turtles.

NOT THE SEA TURTLES! HEAVEN FORBID!

UNVOTE

TO SAVE THOSE POOR TURTLES.

To be honest... I'm just trying to look at other options outside what Fate presents. It's not that he makes bad cases, it's that I like to prod at multiple areas to see if we can get more info. -shrug-

[Lady Lambdadelta]

VOTE: Chronopie

THAT IS L-1

[Lady Lambdadelta]

That vote won't count Parama.

Unvote

[Lady Lambdadelta]

>.<

This game is testing my resolve anyway. Don't do stupid shit like that Parama. I'll take it seriously @-@

Like seriously... I'm Exhausted, and this game is on top of that. If you continue this, I'm probably going to break down and cry :X

Not really... But I might die a little more inside, so let's avoid that ya?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Vote:Chrono

-sigh-

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Is it sad that I'm jealous? xD

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Well... now that Fate has flipped town... I guess we can take his reads at face value now.

I think using his info would be beneficial now.

P-Edit: Antihero, any explanation for this?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Making a case? You active lurked, as did Reck; the Tasky vote and Parama vote are both complete WTF; and you know when I was complaining about shitty piggybacking on the manho case? Yeah, you're one of those people.

Do you agree with this assessment, LLD?

Let me ISO, and I'll tell you what I think.

Also, how do you like my new macrophage? B)

I was wondering about that actually, but I wasn't gonna ask in the game thread.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Oh yeah.

Nacho, can you explain your vote changes from Chrono to Parama to Tasy and back, and why you changed your votes without giving any reason?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Uh guys? Take a look at the flavor from the N0 kill, and yesterdays lynch.

They're the same. "What the hell

WAS

he?"

I'm pretty sure that neither of these kills were caused by a janitor. Rather, they both were players who had the "lost role" flavor. Chrono claimed this in the thread.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

So that wasn't intentional? Fuck. xD

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Antihero stole my role from the original SWN 3.

Damn I loved that role <3

GG TOWN <3

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Antihero wins Town MVP. Good shooting Tex!

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Why were you faking a PR? >.<