Consulmaker II: the Pyrrhic War - Game over.

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Current Game Status:

Game Over. Scum win!

Dictator:

The Fonz

Tribune:

Alive (5):

6. The Fonz (replacing Mert), Tarentine Commander, Pyrrhic Goon

7. Untrod Tripod (replacing ribwich), Shady Senator, Consulmaker

14. Shanba (replacing Leon Belmont (replacing horrordude0215)), Messapian Commander, Pyrrhic Goon

15. Parama (replacing chesskid3), Roman Senator
17. scotmany12, Roman Senator

Dead (13):

4. Powerrox93, Roman Senator, Townie, executed Day 1.
1. chamber, Appius Claudius Caecus, Limited Cop, killed Night 1.

11. xRECKONERx, War Elephant, Pyrrhic Goon, executed Day 2.
13. dramonic, Epirote Commander, Pyrrhic Goon, killed Night 2.

16. inHimshallibe, Gaius Fabricius Luscinus, Back-up Bodyguard, killed Night 2.

5. Jack, King Pyrrhus of Epirus, Godfather, executed Day 3.

12. Porochaz, Manius Curius Dentatus, Bodyguard, killed Night 3.
19. Lowell, Roman Senator, executed Day 4.
9. Primate, Roman Senator, killed Night 4.
18. Nathanael, Roman Senator, executed Day 5.
2. Feysal (replacing Rabies), Roman Senator, killed Night 5.

3. SpyreX, Cineas, 2-Shot Rolecop, killed Night 5.

10. SensFan, Roman Senator, executed Day 6.
8. Magua (replacing Katsuki), Roman Senator, killed Night 6.

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General Rules:

[1] No quoting mod PMs, no invisitext, no color=black, no editing or deleting posts.
[2] Nights will last 72 hours. If you haven't sent in a choice by then, you don't get your action in.
[3] No communication outside the thread, unless your role specifically allows it.
[4] It is an execution only when I say so. Feel free to continue discussion during "twilight".
[5] If you're dead, you may post a single "Braaaiiiiinnnnnsssss!" post in thread. Nothing more.
[6] If you expect to be absent for a longer period of time, please post this in the thread.
[7] I am the Mod. If you think I've made a mistake, pm me, so I won't have to humiliate you in public.
[8] Dark red text belongs to me. Players are not allowed to post in dark red.

Player

: XXXX

Role

: Roman Senator, Townie

Flavour

: You are a Roman Senator. This means you are eligible for Consulmakership, but more importantly you have the all-important power of speech and persuasion. Your job is to help protect the Roman Republic through identifying its enemies during the Day.

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Consulmaker Rules:

General

Each Day has a minimum length of 1 week and maximum length of 3 weeks. Once we are down to 10 players, the maximum length will be 2 weeks. Once we are down to 5 players, there will be no minimum length and a maximum length of 1.5 weeks.

Consuls and Dictator

Rather than voting, each Day's lynch will be decided by the Consuls. They both have the power of a Day-ending execution and an absolute power to veto any such execution attempt. The Consuls are chosen each Night by the Consulmaker(every Night a new pair). If one of the Consuls dies that Night, the other Consul will become a Dictator and will have the power to decide that Day's lynch on his own, but such a Day will be at most 2 weeks long, rather than 4. If both Consuls die, no lynch will take place. Once it is down to 5 players, only a Dictator will be chosen. In that situation, the Consulmaker will also be able to pick a back-up Dictator each night, in case his first pick dies. Consuls and Dictators possess immunity from execution.

Tribunes

In addition to the Consuls, we also have Tribunes. Tribunes possess immunity from execution and are allowed to veto one execution a Day (the tribunal veto lasts the day). As it is their duty to represent the people, they are elected during the first week of every Day. Votes for Tribunes must be written in the format: Vote for Tribune: CES. At the end of the first week, the two players with the most votes are elected Tribune. If there's a tie for second place, only 1 Tribune will be elected. If there's a three(or more)-way tie for first place, no Tribune will be elected. Once we are down to 10 players or fewer, only 1 Tribune may be elected. Once we are down to 5 players, Tribunes will no longer be elected.

Executions

Any Consul or Dictator can at any time after the first week of the Day post Execute: Target in thread to bring about the execution of that person. A period of 48 hours will follow in which the Town is allowed to talk and the target can make a final plea. It is during this period that executions may be vetoed. The period will end prematurely if everyone capable of vetoing waives his right of veto(or alternatively, if there is no-one capable of vetoing) and accepts the execution. If the execution is sent in less than 48 hours before the deadline, then it will only go through if the waiting period ends before the deadline as a result of the afore-mentioned.

Consulmaker Death

If the Consulmaker ever dies, his role will pass to a random Roman Senator. If there are no Roman Senator for the role to pass to, then Rome loses.

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All role PMs are out. We will start with Day as soon as the Consulmaker has sent me his choices and everyone has picked up his/her PMs.

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Did I miss the rule telling us to confirm in thread?

No, as there is no such rule. Although you are, of course, free to do so.

Happy scum day by the bye.

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It's very hard to spot if one uses color=black tags around certain letters in a post. This way you can hide a message in your text in a similar manner as using invisitext.

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Yes. It's not banned because it's a foolproof way to hide a breadcrumb, it's banned because of how it hides the breadcrumb.

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It is now Day 1. Your Consuls are Nathanael and SensFan.

Deadline for Tribunal Elections is Saturday 27 Nov, 1600 GMT.

Deadline for Day 1 is Saturday 11 Dec, 1600 GMT.

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Tribunal Vote Count

Jack - 1(chamber)

Not voting - (Everyone else)

mod: are the consuls at the beginning chosen at random?

No. They were chosen by the consulmaker in pre-game. Also, you're not very good at this alt thing.

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Tribunal Vote Count

Primate - 2(SensFan, SpyreX)
chamber - 2(Primate, inHimshallibe)
Lowell - 2(Lowell, Nathanael)
chesskid3 - 1(chesskid3)
Mert - 1(scotmany12)

Not voting - (Everyone else)

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Yes.

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Tribunal Vote Count

Primate - 2(SpyreX, Jack)
chamber - 2(Primate, inHimshallibe)
inHimshallibe - 2(chamber, Rabies)
Mert - 2(scotmany12, Mert)
Lowell - 1(Lowell)
chesskid3 - 1(chesskid3)
Rabies - 1(Nathanael)
Jack - 1(SensFan)

Not voting - (Powerrox93, ribwich, Katsuki, xRECKONERx, Porochaz, dramonic, horrordude0215)

No cryptography.

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Tribunal Vote Count

chamber - 2(Primate, inHimshallibe)
inHimshallibe - 2(chamber, Rabies)
Mert - 2(scotmany12, Mert)
Rabies - 2(Nathanael, ribwich)
Lowell - 1(Lowell)
chesskid3 - 1(chesskid3)
Jack - 1(SensFan)
Primate - 1(SpyreX)

Not voting - (Powerrox93, Katsuki, xRECKONERx, Porochaz, dramonic, horrordude0215, Jack)

Tribunal deadline is the 27th, 1600 GMT.

This is not a bastard mod game.

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Tribunal Vote Count

chamber - 6(Primate, inHimshallibe, dramonic, scotmany12, Lowell, Nathanael)
Primate - 5(SpyreX, Powerrox93, chesskid3, chamber, Porochaz)
Rabies - 1(ribwich)
Jack - 1(SensFan)
Mert - 1(Mert)
inHimshallibe - 1(Rabies)

Not voting - (Katsuki, xRECKONERx, horrordude0215, Jack)

Tribunal deadline is in 3 hours.

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Chamber and Primate have been elected as your tribunes.

Consuls may now execute.

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Glrok: Target is an accepted alternative means of indicating execution by the bye, but only if properly spelled (ie. Glrok).

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If no one vetoes this, chesskid3 will be executed on Monday, 18:07 GMT or sooner if chamber, Primate and Nathanael waive their right to veto.

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You would be able to execute chesskid3 later and Consuls can execute their own executions.

I'll amend my ruleset to clarify that consular vetoes apply to specific execution attempts while tribunal vetoes last the day. Amusingly, neither question came up during the original Consulmaker simply due to lack of vetoing.

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Chesskid3's execution has been vetoed. Carry on.

First veto in a Consulmaker set-up by the bye.

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Okay, I'm issuing a warning to chesskid3 and SensFan. You two are spamming up the thread and making it unreadable for others. I will force-replace if this behaviour doesn't end.

And I'll send some prods.

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Chesskid3 is being replaced. Spamming right after I tell him not to shows a clear disregard for the other players and my authority.

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Parama replaces chesskid3.

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Pseudo-Vote Count

Katsuki - 2(ribwich, SpyreX)
Rabies - 1(Parama)
Scotmany - 1(SpyreX)

If you want me to notice them, you're better off bolding them, just fyi.

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Pseudo-Vote Count

Katsuki - 4(ribwich, SpyreX, SensFan, inHimshallibe)
Scotmany - 2(SpyreX, Jack)
Powerrox93 - 2(Jack, Parama)
Rabies - 1(Parama)
chamber - 1(Parama)
Nathanael - 1(Parama)
xRECKONERx - 1(Parama)
ribwich - 1(SensFan)
horrordude - 1(inHimshallibe)

Day 1 ends 11 December 1600 GMT.

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Katsuki will be executed the 4th of December 02:33 GMT if no one steps in.

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Guys, no spamming. Looking for replacements for Rabies and Katsuki.

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Feysal replaces Rabies.

Katsuki will be executed Sunday 20:14 GMT.

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As things stand, Katsuki will be executed in a little over an hour.

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Uh. I blame my lack of sleep. Yeah, day goes on for 2 more hoursish.

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Execution is on tuesday.

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Pseudo-Vote Count

Katsuki - 5(ribwich, SpyreX, SensFan, inHimshallibe, Lowell)
Scotmany - 2(SpyreX, Jack)
Powerrox93 - 2(Jack, Parama)
Rabies - 1(Parama)
chamber - 1(Parama)
Nathanael - 1(Parama)
xRECKONERx - 1(Parama)
ribwich - 1(SensFan)
horrordude - 1(inHimshallibe)

Katsuki will be executed Tuesday 19:56 GMT. Day 1 deadline is Saturday 1600 GMT.

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Parama is exempt from execution for the rest of the Day.

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Powerrox93, Roman Senator, Townie, has been executed by Nathanael.

It is now Night 1. You have 72 hours to get your choices in.

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Chamber, Appius Claudius Caecus, Limited Cop, has been mercilessly cut down by the enemy.

Who would this to a blind man?

Dramonic and scotmany12 are Today's Consuls. Tribunal Deadline is Thursday 16 Dec 21:50 GMT. Deadline for the Day is 30 Dec in principle, but'll probably be moved to compensate for the holidays to ~3 January once I've determined when my holiday ends.

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You only get one tribunal vote, Parama. If you want to Pseudo-vote, you should make that clear.

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Tribunal Vote Count

Primate - 4(Parama, SensFan, Feysal, SpyreX)
ribwich - 5(scotmany12, xRECKONERx, ribwich, Nathanael, Lowell)

Tribunal Deadline is Thursday 16 Dec 21:50 GMT.

Questions about specific roles will not be answered.

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Leon Belmont replaces horrordude0215.

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horrordude being replaced is most welcome. But, should Katsuki not be replaced as well? She did ask for replacement, and she has yet to post today.

I am working on it.

P.S. Unless you interpret Jack as group 3 neuter, Jack is not in the accusative which it should be. You can either go with the straightforward Jackem or go with the slightly more elegant Jackum as a puer-type noun.

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Anyway, I'm ending the Tribunal Phase now so you guys can get some more done before the inevitable christmas-new year slowdown.

So ribwich and Primate are your tribunes!

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Jack will be executed Sunday 15:14 GMT.

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Pseudo-Vote Count

Lowell- 1(Nathanael)
Nathanael - 2(Parama, Porochaz)
Parama- 1(Nathanael)

xRECKONERx will be executed Tuesday 15:02 GMT.

P.S. proper nouns getting conjugated does seem unnatural, but there exists a pretty famous example in "Et tu, Brute." (which uses the vocative).

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Your Tribunes are ribwich and The Fonz.

Consuls may now execute.

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Barring vetoes, Jack will be executed Thursday 19:58 GMT.

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Shanba replaces Leon Belmont. You may all rejoice.

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I should probably clarify that while the Consul that makes the execution does have a veto, he's assumed to waive it if the others do (e.g. Jack is executed as of #1097).

Execution scene up soon.

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As Pyrrhus was preparing to sail to Italy, Cineas, his chief ambassador, had the following conversation with him:

Cineas began: "The Romans are reported to be great warriors and conquerors of many nations. If the gods permit us to overcome them, how shall we use our victory?"

"That is an easy question," responded Pyrrhus. "Once we conquer the Romans, there will not be any city in all of Italy that will resist us."

Cineas paused, then asked: "Once we have Italy, what next?"

"Sicily, which is a wealthy island, should be easy to take," said Pyrrhus.

Cineas continued: "You speak what is perfectly probable, but will the possession of Sicily put an end to the war?"

"Carthage and Africa would then be within reach," said Pyrrhus, "and once we have them, who in the world would dare to oppose us?"

"No one, certainly," said Cineas, "And then what shall we do?"

Pyrrhus still did not see where he had been led by this argument, so he said: "Then, my dear Cineas, we will relax, and drink all day, and amuse ourselves with pleasant conversation."

"What prevents us from doing that now?" said Cineas, "We already have enough to make that possible without any more hard work, suffering, and danger."

The logic of this argument troubled Pyrrhus, but he was unwilling to abandon the hopes of what he so much desired.

Way to stumble on the first hurdle, dude. Should've stayed at home.

Jack, King Pyrrhus of Epirus, Godfather, has been executed by SpyreX.

It's now Night 3. Night 3 ends on Sunday 11:00 GMT (a couple hours early because I'll be on then.)

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Porochaz, Manius Curius Dentatus, Bodyguard, has been killed!

Your Consuls are The Fonz and Shanba. You may now elect Tribunes.

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Tribunal Vote Count

Primate - 5(scotmany12, Parama, SpyreX, Primate, Shanba)
ribwich - 4(Nathanael, ribwich, Magua, Lowell)
scotmany12 - 2(Feysal, The Fonz)
SpyreX - 1(SensFan)

Not voting - 0

Deadline is Sunday 21:11 GMT.

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Tribunal Vote Count

Primate - 5(scotmany12, Parama, SpyreX, Shanba)
ribwich - 4(Nathanael, ribwich, Magua, Lowell)
scotmany12 - 2(Feysal, The Fonz)
SpyreX - 1(SensFan)
Magua - 1(Primate)

Not voting - 0

Deadline is Sunday 21:11 GMT.

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Tribunal Vote Count

Primate - 5(scotmany12, Parama, SpyreX, Shanba)
ribwich - 4(Nathanael, ribwich, Magua, Lowell)
scotmany12 - 2(Feysal, The Fonz)
SpyreX - 1(SensFan)
Magua - 1(Primate)

Not voting - 0

Deadline is Sunday 21:11 GMT.

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Scotmany12 and Primate are your tribunes.

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Lowell will be executed Thursday 10:10 GMT.

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Lowell, Roman Senator, has been Executed by your Consul The Fonz.

It is now Night 4. Night 4 ends at Sunday 11:20 GMT.

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Your beloved former Consul, Primate, has sadly lost his head during the night.

Tribunal elections end next Saturday at 15:17 GMT. Please note that since we are down to 10, there will only be one Tribune and the Day lasts 2 weeks instead of 3.

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P.S. Your Consuls are Magua and SensFan.

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Tribunal Vote Count

The Fonz - 6(SensFan, Parama, scotmany12, Shanba, Magua, SpyreX)
scotmany12 - 2(Feysal, Nathanael)
ribwich - 1(ribwich)

Not voting - 1(The Fonz)

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The Fonz has been elected your Tribune.

Executions may commence.

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Nathanael, Roman Senator, has been executed by SensFan.

It is now Night 5. Deadline is Friday 16:40 GMT.

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Tragedy has struck for

Feysal, Roman Senator

. The newly appointed Consul didn't get to enjoy having reached the pinnacle of Roman society very long.

On the upside, his reign did see the death of that devilish orator,

SpyreX, Cineas, 2-Shot Rolecop

.

Scotmany12 is your dictator in this hour of need.

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Tribunal Deadline is next Friday 15:10 GMT.

To speed things along I have decided that if there's a majority vote for one candidate, he will be elected Tribune immediately.

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Ribwich has been elected your Tribune.

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Sent out prods.

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I'm looking for a replacement for ribwich.

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Untrod Tripod replaces ribwich.

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If UT wants to waive his veto, he'll have to be more explicit.

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SensFan, Roman Senator, has been executed by scotmany12!

It is now Night 6. Choices are due in 72 hours.

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When you wake up, you find that Magua is missing. Upon arriving at the

Senator

's house, a frightented slave points out the newly appointed

Dictator The Fonz

as the perpetrator. This discovery sadly came too late for the once great city of Rome since

The Fonz

had already used his new-found authority to allow his and

Shanba

's troops to take a commanding position in the Forum. Tarentum had won the war and Rome's power was crushed forever more.

The Pyrrhic Army (Jack, SpyreX, dramonic, xRECKONERx, Shanba and The Fonz) win!

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Set-up:

GF
2-Shot Rolecop
4 Goons

vs.

1 Limited Cop (couldn't cop consecutive nights)
1 Bodyguard
1 Back-up Bodyguard
1 Consulmaker
9 Townies

Special Mechanic - Pyrrhic Victory

Pyrrhic Victory. Although Pyrrhus is an adept commander, he can't seem to win without taking casualties: the goon sent to make the kill on Nights 2 and 5 dies.

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Graveyard qt.

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Nah, he wasn't. It's his playstyle.

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No, because he really does play like that.

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The next game will definitely have tighter deadlines.

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That sort of comment is uncalled for, Feysal. Let's calm down a bit.