Open 269: Multirole Mafia: Over. Town Win

[andrew94]

/confirm

[andrew94]

so there's only track, one kill , one inspect, block,protect, neighbour, neighbour?

Yes.

[andrew94]

racism../.

[andrew94]

v/la from dec 25- 29/30 (as with all my games)

[andrew94]

vote chesskid3

[andrew94]

my dear friend chesskid, in a certain finished game where you were town, you were heavily against policy lynching me, stating that it is 'too easy'

[andrew94]

Yeah and then you were scum so fuck you

thats not the point.

town you = not policy lynch me
scum you = policy lynch me

[andrew94]

huh?

[andrew94]

what mod error...

If you don't know, you don't need to...

[andrew94]

= =

explain gandalfs hammer

[andrew94]

thadmiral, akira and chkflip are scummy as hell

[andrew94]

thadmiral, akira and chkflip are scummy as hell

for once I agree with andrew these were my first reads too

explain why before i give my reasons to suspect

[andrew94]

Shotty!!!!!

[andrew94]

shotty's homework sure is taking ages

[andrew94]

prodded.

Unvote

for now, though if shotty needs to get something to us soon. It's really what this game is waiting on.

really?

vote chevre

[andrew94]

alright lets get chkflip then akira then

[andrew94]

chkflip hasnt posted in all his games...

[andrew94]

vote akira

[andrew94]

dude drmyshottyizsik answer my question that you said you would answer after your 'homework'

[andrew94]

no i wanna know y u have the same suspect list as me

[andrew94]

EXACT SAME LIST AS ME

[andrew94]

i dont get what your saying

[andrew94]

oh ya, look at my reasons for my vote.

you only gave reasons for akira i think

[andrew94]

chevre? chkflip returned

[andrew94]

That's what he means, andrew. Apparantly I was your top sus, but due to my lack of internet you decided to switch to Akira.

Smash, are you serious? He's L-1. It's not to say that I'm uncomfortable dropping the hammer, I just don't want to do it too soon and cause an unnecessary ruckus that'll only further derail the town D3. We need to come to a collective decision on who's the best target for today's lynch; I believe that to be Akira, but I know at least three people who beg to differ, so I'd like to see some more discussion before the move is made.

yes. because u didnt post in all ur games which is why i didnt vote u

[andrew94]

alright thadmiral, yOU ARE MY TOP SUSPECT

[andrew94]

shotty, explain why

[andrew94]

chkflip is likely town based on Chevre's flip. Shotty is probably town, as ThAd said. I am town. This leaves: andrew, ThAd, SA as most likely scum.

We most likely have 2 lynches and a vig shot left to find one scum, so we're in good shape.

no.
that leaves implosion, thaD, Sa and me.

but...
notice thadmiral's reaction to when the day started. both times, he doesnt comment on the lynch and the night kills (pro vig) and just X and Y is suspect

[andrew94]

the roles ARE doubled up..
apart from 1 of them

[andrew94]

ok. i think i have enough info to break the game.

the person with the 'inspect' ability, please claim, with your investigation results, and any other ability you have

[andrew94]

they dont. i asked the mod. he said the last is either a goon/1 or 2 role (3 is impossible)

Inv.Immune is still a PR <.<

[andrew94]

inspecor dont come out yet

[andrew94]

@mod: it says on the OP that scum by default gets 1 ability out of 'inv immune, bulletproof, roleblock'

but if scum have no abilties out of 'kill track neighbour neighbour protect roleblock inspect' then they get all 3???
or just 2???

Whether they gain any depends on the distribution of the main set of roles. With an element of chance. Not default either. Only default if Scum don't gain anything from the base set.

[andrew94]

i wait for the mod to confirm the above first.
if scum has investigation immunity, then...

[andrew94]

i DO NOT have a guilty result

[andrew94]

look if nobody is claiming inspector, it means that the final scum has the 'rolecop inspect ability'.

so, if your the town inspector just claim now.
if nobody claims, i can proceed to the next part of the plan

[andrew94]

it works out. i know which roles are town roles atm.

so inspector claim.
no claim = inspector is a scum ability

[andrew94]

i do not have an inspector ability

next

[andrew94]

wtf, htfu every1 say if they have inspector ability or not.

@implosion, the role-cop is when the ability belongs to the mafia

[andrew94]

????

cop =town ability
rolecop= mafia ability

[andrew94]

Drmyshottyizsik ---not inspe
andrew94 same as above
chkflip Mothrax didnt say yet
Sleepless Assassin didnt say yet???
implosion same
ThAdmiral same

[andrew94]

getting on a plane. 13 hours. sleeping after. might have delay flight.

[andrew94]

morthax, so you say you have another ability??? if your other ability is the doctor, you can claim and be confirmed town. you can ask me how i know that later
please claim your other innocent first.

[andrew94]

if you are a town PR, then the scum has 2 powers (nk immune investigative immune etc)
that = you = useless

[andrew94]

I'm curious as to how you made that logical leap.

do you have a RB ability
who did you target

[andrew94]

the 'inspector' is not confirmed.

and morthax, i made that 'leap' because of POE of roles, and because i have a role that makes me confirmed town. now u either tell me who you roleblocked, or you get lynched

[andrew94]

this is easy.

you do know smashbro was a tracker neighbour right?

[andrew94]

vote morthax

if morthax is scum we win
if morthax is town, then we only have 2 confirms, and the scum has 2/3 of the abiltieis

[andrew94]

that why we only have 2 confirms

[andrew94]

scum will have 2 of bp, ip , rb.

[andrew94]

So you are going to lynch what is basically a double cop at this point?
Think about it. I can investigate (which might be worthless true if scum do have investigation immunity) and I can roleblock, which stops kills. Think about the implications of a correct roleblock.

you wouldnt know whether a kill was stopped because you roleblocked him(if ur town) or the doctor protect. you might even block the doc etc.
ok ok.

and vigging you wouldnt work, becos scum might be able to rb if ur town

[andrew94]

That would be easily sorted out with claims if that were the case.

HUH???

[andrew94]

how do you know whether its a doc protect or a roleblock then dude...

[andrew94]

why are we lynching shotty then/
i thought thadmiral said he was town due to chevre's actions

[andrew94]

u said....
that
he was
town
because
chevre
voted him



why are u...

[andrew94]

err

in the sorcerors game, i think i argued with you hardcore because you said someone going back to check what they wrote is scummy = =
facepalm*

[andrew94]

double facepalm****

[andrew94]

Doctor protect me tonight.
morthax dont RB anyone tonight
someone vig morthax.
yea

[andrew94]

someone vig morthax.

Why do you want the cop dead so badly? They could be mafia, but they're still a power role, and if he's town this would be a huge waste. And why shouldn't he RB anyone? He could stop the scumkill if he's real.

dude, there is no way to prove he is town. ok.
if im a town roleblocker, i sure am hell not roleblocking nights 1 and 2, unless some information is shown. what if u roleblock town prs??
and he shouldnt rb anyone becos he could rb the vig or the doc (if he is town) .
so if hes town he should let himself get vigged. yes

[andrew94]

w/e ill be willing to hammer too.

but morthax , if ur town, ur best cause of action is to not roleblock anyone.

and the doctor better protect me.

[andrew94]

morthax, who did you block.

[andrew94]

vote morthax

[andrew94]

i shot you last night.
you didnt roleblock anyone
the doctor protected me.

logic???

[andrew94]

Edited out the Double post

[andrew94]

a1) becos i said doc protect me
b2) u said u didnt block me

and if ur town, the last scum only has 2/3 of those abilities.

i believe you are scum with role cop and roleblock and you roleblocked me last night.
end of story

[andrew94]

and what kind of BS was the SA guilty.

[andrew94]

thing is, if ur town, the mafia doesnt even need to roleblock me. why would the mafia want you to survive

[andrew94]

is that your defence?
WIFOM?

[andrew94]

unvote

^ yea bro thats REALLY helpful, cos im gonna die tonight

[andrew94]

i know if your town, you wouldnt roleblock me.
but if your scum with those abilities, you wont hestitate to use it.
as for thadmiral dying, i dont think he dropped any doc tells, WHY WAS HE KILLED/how did they know he was the doctor
O BECAUSE SOMEONE HAS A ROLECOP ABILITY


@sa, yea cos im confirmed town of course ill get killed

[andrew94]

errr morthax, you cannot be the nk immune mafia, but you may be the roleblocking + role cop mafia.
if thats the case, you can just roleblock me.

the other explanation is that you are town and there's a roleblocking/nk immune/ investigative immune, which is TOTALLY unfair to be all on a mafia.
i was under the impression that the above are shared between all 3 mafia

am i right mod

The scum roles are randomly distributed around the scum, in the same way the main set is randomly distributed among all players. So scum can stack roles, if they're lucky.

[andrew94]

look, its either

1) morthax is scum with rolecop and roleblock

or
2) sa / dr is scum with ALL 3 abilites, highly unlikely

[andrew94]

bah

On the wall, written in his blood, was a message "Next up, that bastard that's been taking Potshots at us."

[andrew94]

Vote No Lynch

i fainted at this.

unvote
vote no lynch

There is still a chance andrew is scum

then i jumped off my 200 storey building when i saw this.

what made me think morthax was scum: why would you roleblock if your town? why would you roleblock thadmiral the same night you checked thadmiral. 1 scum with all 3 powers was too imba anyway.
ffffffffffff, you made me fail shooting you(yes i aimed morthax)

[andrew94]

1 scum with all 3 powers meant that all the power was concentrated, and had he been the first to go, the scum would have been PR-less the entire game. There are benefits to one uber scum, sure, but I don't think it's nearly as good as you think it is.

I want to know how Andrew killed two scum by night two.

1 scum with all 3 powers had a low % chance, so i thought mortahx was scum.
so yea, about my vig targets, (not telling)

[andrew94]

no, smashbro didnt tell me anything = =

i predicted that he was gonna die tho

[andrew94]

^ dont you mean night 1

i won in sitmoa = =

[andrew94]

you only said you had another ability = =

thanks for the modding!