Mini 14 ~ Mafia Holographica (Game Over!)

Gammagooey · Post Post #8 (isolation #0) » Mon Jan 10, 2011 3:42 pm

Testing, testing, one two -

PEW PEWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
MagneticWipe(South of my position)

Gammagooey · Post Post #9 (isolation #1) » Mon Jan 10, 2011 3:44 pm

also just in case you don't like unbolded things

MagneticWipe(South of my position)

Gammagooey · Post Post #11 (isolation #2) » Mon Jan 10, 2011 3:46 pm

Naaaaaaah.

Move to Far West

Gammagooey · Post Post #13 (isolation #3) » Mon Jan 10, 2011 3:49 pm

I Thought it was rook-style movement with 1d to get there and then a 1d cooldown but this WAS partially to test it so we'll find out soon.

Gammagooey · Post Post #15 (isolation #4) » Mon Jan 10, 2011 3:56 pm

NE party looks pretty cool then.

Move to NE

Gammagooey · Post Post #22 (isolation #5) » Mon Jan 10, 2011 4:16 pm

horizontal and vertical only.

No diagonals for you.

Gammagooey · Post Post #27 (isolation #6) » Mon Jan 10, 2011 4:25 pm

Magnetic Wipe: North of my position

Gammagooey · Post Post #78 (isolation #7) » Tue Jan 11, 2011 3:47 pm

I think the lack of direction is mostly because everyone knows that there aren't any actual mafia yet >.>
I'd rather have the mafia game but I'd certainly keep playing if you moved it to Mish-Mash.

Gammagooey · Post Post #83 (isolation #8) » Tue Jan 11, 2011 6:09 pm

Oh surrrre, shoot at the guy who tested a game mechanic and managed to completely waste his weapon firez.

REVENGE WILL COME.

Gammagooey · Post Post #99 (isolation #9) » Wed Jan 12, 2011 9:40 am

TheButtonmen wrote: I mean who hasn't wanted to be a part of the next chess mafia.

noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

It's kind of the reverse actually though. I'm fully expecting at leeeeast one person to be an idiot and get distracted by minor scummitude from townies and tunnel on them with bullets for a while.
...This actually didn't start out as a subtle reference to you but my subconscious might have gotten in the way.

Gammagooey · Post Post #104 (isolation #10) » Wed Jan 12, 2011 3:11 pm

so basically spark sap keeps hititng me for one damage until i either shield/block it once or heal myself for one+ points of health?

Gammagooey · Post Post #109 (isolation #11) » Wed Jan 12, 2011 3:36 pm

I don't think I can pewpew anymore until the demo is over ;_;
Also all the mishmash haters should read through these: http://www.mafiascum.net/mith/epyc/epyc.php?c=1

Gammagooey · Post Post #111 (isolation #12) » Wed Jan 12, 2011 5:21 pm

Your uncharged weapon CANNOT HARM THE INVINCIBLE GAMMA-SCUM.

Cause uh.
It's uncharged.
Ya know?

Gammagooey · Post Post #129 (isolation #13) » Thu Jan 13, 2011 3:14 pm

If the demo isn't ending tonight for some reason-

Move:Center

If it is then *shrugs*

Gammagooey · Post Post #131 (isolation #14) » Thu Jan 13, 2011 3:31 pm

If VV's whip did enough damage (and it wasn't the end of the demo) I COULD kill you even from a tile away.

Also I got distacted by GSL starcraft games and watching mythbusters.

Speaking of which I'm getting on SC in a few minutes so feel free to join me if you want to.

Gammagooey · Post Post #142 (isolation #15) » Sat Jan 15, 2011 3:23 pm

I guess I get to be the first to respond to this stupidity.

Furcolow what the fuck are you doing.

....Are you even serious. I get ninjaed by more of this.

Why the hell are you shooting at people when the game IS JUST STARTING. BOTH OF YOU.

Gammagooey · Post Post #143 (isolation #16) » Sat Jan 15, 2011 3:24 pm

Move:South

Gammagooey · Post Post #145 (isolation #17) » Sat Jan 15, 2011 3:28 pm

Why no.
It ISN'T good odds.

The same square shit is completely irrelevent, it's 3/11 from any one person's perspective.

Gammagooey · Post Post #149 (isolation #18) » Sat Jan 15, 2011 3:36 pm

If you want to go into ridiculous square WIFOM then yeah there's pretty good odds in 1+ scum in the northwest. Aside from that I wouldn't be surprised if there were 2 scum in the northwest- if Fate's scum and thought of SQUARE WIFOMZ then I wouldn't put it past him to put every member of his team in one place, but aside from that possibility I'd say no more than 2 scum in the NW.

But MORE importantly the gunfire will still go through even at 8:59 tommorrow night. Shooting NOW when nobody's done shit is a terrible, terrible idea.
I'm getting ninja'd but I'll respond to it in a sec

Gammagooey · Post Post #153 (isolation #19) » Sat Jan 15, 2011 3:42 pm

@TBM-
A I will help with if this doesn't stop

B-C2 I doubt will actually be happening, but I would be in favor of requiring at least one other person to support your shot before you start chasing someone down- I'm fully expecting that if everyone just does whatever the hell they think is best town will lose from townvstown tunneling and OMGUS shootouts.

If you want to keep track of pseudo-votes you can go for it but I'm not expecting it to be followed rigidly.

Gammagooey · Post Post #156 (isolation #20) » Sat Jan 15, 2011 3:53 pm

Scum had a definite benefit in not choosing the same number in PYP drafts- In this the benefit is only theoretical AND pretty much relies on the scum planning for stupid townies- if I was scum and thought about pre-game placement I would just tell everyone to keep whatever placement they chose on their own to avoid being caught by this type of guesswork and because it would be optimal play assuming intelligent townies, and if you assume less than intelligent townies then your job just got a hell of a lot easier anyway.

I WILL give that it is better than going off nothing, but there absolutely should not be shots going off from that alone.

For group executions we should murder at least one person a week- if we can do it intelligently more than that is fine, but everyone spreading out their shots is just going to make it easier for scum to focus fire people down near or at endgame.

@TBM- I had a different amount of hp than the town sample PM in the demo so I doubt it.

Gammagooey · Post Post #159 (isolation #21) » Sat Jan 15, 2011 4:01 pm

Plum wrote:
I had 15 HP in my Demo role.

Same

Gammagooey · Post Post #162 (isolation #22) » Sat Jan 15, 2011 4:04 pm

TBM no offense but I would bet some pretty solid cash money that you have 10 hp for asking Vi in the first place.

Gammagooey · Post Post #165 (isolation #23) » Sat Jan 15, 2011 4:13 pm

Yeah might as well.
I have 10.

Gammagooey · Post Post #167 (isolation #24) » Sat Jan 15, 2011 4:18 pm

If you really think establishing the default hp is worse than Furc and chess's early shots then I have nothing but sighs for you today Plum.

Gammagooey · Post Post #174 (isolation #25) » Sat Jan 15, 2011 5:53 pm

Chess I swear.

You look fairly town right now but you continuing to shoot almost at random is a terrible, terrible idea.

Gammagooey · Post Post #192 (isolation #26) » Sat Jan 15, 2011 7:17 pm

Fate would be pushing vezok's death even if they were both mafia TOGETHER.

(That's how bad vezok's play was in the last game we were in.)

Gammagooey · Post Post #225 (isolation #27) » Sat Jan 15, 2011 8:28 pm

Plum policy is silly. I do think that she should reveal her position by decloaking the day after a scumshot, after every scumshot however (and then recloaking if she wants). Should prevent her from avoiding the line-based scum-shot reasoning and make it so her being invisible isn't taken for granted until we realize she's shooting and we can't get a lock on where she is.

Me knowing what Fate would do is either
a)magic or
b)knowing in general what type of player he is and thus how he would react to certain situations.

I would actually be more in favor of making Furc dead than vezok right now.

Holy I am getting ninja'd so hard and am slightly more intoxicated than is helpful to deal with this.

Gammagooey · Post Post #231 (isolation #28) » Sat Jan 15, 2011 8:36 pm

okay i was about to ask if VV was just waaaaaaaaaat but inhims got this.

and here's the thing about everyone doing their own shit
ready
ready
STARCRAFT ANALOGY.

assuming three scum (or actually any number>1) they WILL be able to work together a hell of a lot better than the same number of town people. If we have even 4-5 town people but they're at low-medium hp while 3 scum are alive and have high hp or are able to heal themselves they can group up, focus fire one or two people down at once, and get the hell out of there if they time it properly- they WILL have better micromanagement of players and abilities than us, and the way around that is to keep everyone at as high hp as possible except for the 1-2 people we're currently making dead.
I guess this is more relevant to later game but WEAKENING players without committing as a group and making them completely dead is a bad bad idea.

Gammagooey · Post Post #271 (isolation #29) » Sun Jan 16, 2011 9:15 am

Cool, posts.

Furc still needs to die for that ridiculous shot and leaving immediately afterwards.
Fate can die for completely ignoring Furc on all of his scumlists.
TBM makes me a little paranoid but shouldn't be shot at yet
I can't read CKD for the life of me.
Aaaand apparently VPBaltar is stealing most of my reads. (except I think VV is more likely town than not)

As for the plan I like going A1 B3 and C2 better- still prevents any linear firing but it also ensures that at least one group is within one tile of any item drops that occur so we can use em' faster.

Gammagooey · Post Post #274 (isolation #30) » Sun Jan 16, 2011 9:28 am

@fate-See he HASN'T. Aside from shooting at Feysal and not bothering to tell anyone why it was a good idea.

Gammagooey · Post Post #279 (isolation #31) » Sun Jan 16, 2011 9:39 am

VP Baltar wrote:
GG wrote:except I think VV is more likely town than not
Why's that?

A mystical combination of me thinking he'd be more cautious as scum, that I'm pretty sure that he wouldn't plan to fake confusion about the mafia kill (ignorance maybe, but not confusion IMO), and that I think it's a minor towntell.

Gammagooey · Post Post #307 (isolation #32) » Sun Jan 16, 2011 11:58 am

Gammagooey wrote:I'm fully expecting that if everyone just does whatever the hell they think is best town will lose from townvstown tunneling and
OMGUS shootouts.

curiouskarmadog wrote:no doubt this action will bring the wraith of game....but (shrug)..the truth of my action will lie in my death.

Here's a tip for you.
If you know it's a stupid idea.
Then don't godamn do it.

Furc does look a little townier with his recent posts but I don't want him in LYLO.

@Plum&TBM- top two scum reads please.

Baltar you seriously need to stop having all of my ideas. and also ninja'ing me when i'm typing up these ideas.

Gammagooey · Post Post #326 (isolation #33) » Sun Jan 16, 2011 3:24 pm

It wasn't the EMP, and I think it actually might have been Plum- if it wasn't her then I'm pretty sure it was a scum hit.

I need to test something first though.

Plasma Burst: Northeast sector

Gammagooey · Post Post #332 (isolation #34) » Sun Jan 16, 2011 4:12 pm

Dear Feysal: Although your speculation may be a little helpful, it's pretty much all you've done thus far in-game. 2 top scum reads please.

Gammagooey · Post Post #334 (isolation #35) » Sun Jan 16, 2011 4:41 pm

Kay.

Are you responsible for the explosion in the northwest y/n?

Gammagooey · Post Post #340 (isolation #36) » Sun Jan 16, 2011 6:43 pm

Dear Fate: What on earth gives you such a strong town read on Feysal when his only scum reads are conditional on how an ability works?

Kthanks,
The Gamma.

Gammagooey · Post Post #343 (isolation #37) » Sun Jan 16, 2011 8:30 pm

Oh and it's not going to matter for a bit AND it only will if Plum doesn't uncloak (and at this point I'm pretty sure she should by 9pm tommorrow)

@Vezok- in order for EMP to have a chance at hitting someone cloaked you have to fire it in a direction from where you are, not at a specific player, like I did in the demo-

Gammagooey wrote:
MagneticWipe(South of my position)

Gammagooey · Post Post #368 (isolation #38) » Mon Jan 17, 2011 4:51 am

So I hinted at this earlier today but I'm pretty sure I know what type of weapon hit the northwest sector, because the plasma burst I fired at the northeast does the same amount of damage (2 hp to each person in a region). If I'm right then the flavor should confirm it by having the same type of explosion, and it ALSO means that only three people could have taken that shot- inhims, VV, and Plum. VV looks town and either him or inhims having an ability that DIDN'T remove him from the map but let's him shoot in silence seemed much less likely than Plum just shooting at them.

NOW then.
Plum needs to uncloak by the end of the day so we know she's not the one making the shots in silence. And if she confirms that she isn't the one firing then we'll figure out where to go from there.

Gammagooey · Post Post #377 (isolation #39) » Mon Jan 17, 2011 9:46 am

1 and 2 are correct.
It has a 1 day cooldown though.

As for secret moves- a cloak that doesn't let you move around or shoot is in fact a pretty shitty cloak.

Gammagooey · Post Post #389 (isolation #40) » Mon Jan 17, 2011 1:43 pm

You have no assigned action.

If you have an EMP then fire it linearly in whatever direction you think Plum might have headed to though.

Gammagooey · Post Post #401 (isolation #41) » Mon Jan 17, 2011 2:26 pm

Feysal wrote:Oh, and I will definitely try to exploit the game mechanics any way I can. If I manage to find a way to break the game, I'll share it, but you won't be seeing me wanting to actually do it.

What is this I don't even.

Gammagooey · Post Post #403 (isolation #42) » Mon Jan 17, 2011 2:28 pm

LIKE A THOUSAND MAN

Gammagooey · Post Post #407 (isolation #43) » Mon Jan 17, 2011 2:38 pm

@fate-Gawd stop defending my scum reads and go help me decide between null reads, it'll be much more helpful.

inhims/TBM pick one.

@Feysal- Oh. That's actually not nearly as bad as I thought it would be. Modkilling to victory is bleh.
Exploiting ability mechanics to victory is woooooooooooo

Gammagooey · Post Post #411 (isolation #44) » Mon Jan 17, 2011 3:15 pm

Iiiii'm probably going to take it.

if anyone wants CKD/someone else to take it say so quickly please.

Gammagooey · Post Post #414 (isolation #45) » Mon Jan 17, 2011 3:18 pm

If I didn't want other peoples opinions I wouldn't have asked.

Gammagooey · Post Post #417 (isolation #46) » Mon Jan 17, 2011 3:21 pm

Because quickly is almost always better.

Also because if nobody said anything I was planning to pick it up around midnight or a bit before I head to bed

Gammagooey · Post Post #418 (isolation #47) » Mon Jan 17, 2011 3:24 pm

Also for those not paying attention Plum got hit with something- she was either in A1 or A3.

Gammagooey · Post Post #420 (isolation #48) » Mon Jan 17, 2011 3:27 pm

naaaah you don't get to pick it up unless you have a damn good argument for it And other people agree with it.

In addition, like 5 people have called me a townread.

Also go scumhunt some then. Nothing's stopping you from asking questions to anyone and everyone.

Gammagooey · Post Post #422 (isolation #49) » Mon Jan 17, 2011 3:36 pm

Welll let me put it this way.

You already pulled one outburst this game despite knowing that it wasn't a good decision.
Pulling another one would point pretty strongly to you faking your whining to get your way.
If you have an actual reason for thinking the module would improve your role more than mine, and think it's worth the information reveal to state the argument, then I'm more than open to hearing it.

But if you're just going to be a whiny bitch about the module without having any particular reason why you should get it then am dissallowed to give a single damn.

As a side note I've won a game as scum with YOU IN IT. your oh noes someone thought you were town is stupid.

Gammagooey · Post Post #436 (isolation #50) » Mon Jan 17, 2011 3:52 pm

Feysal wrote: 2. vezokpiraka appears to have hit something. His EMP was supposed to cause 1 HP of damage, right? But why did it not cause damage when it hit Gammagooey?

Not something you need to know about.

inHims should shoot with a "melee weapon" (only hits his own region) at Plum to see if she's still there.

Someone is A1 should do the same.
If she's moved from one of those locations without posting in thread she's pretty much confirmed as scum and we can go hunting with EMPs everywhere.

ninja ninja everywhere-
@CKD- you've bitched about chess misrepping you when he was asked and explaining what posts of yours were scummy.
I will give you that this conversation is silly, because it is. Also pointless. You've asked me questions, I've answered them, and you've bitched about how I'm STOPPING DISCUSSION OH NOES.

oh lord more ninjas.
I've seen at least 3 people tell me to do this so yeah.

Pick up Module

I'll read the rest in a sec

Gammagooey · Post Post #440 (isolation #51) » Mon Jan 17, 2011 4:00 pm

@Fate- Why are you shooting at VPBaltar?
@CKD-yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeepppppp. You've bitched about other people's opinions while barely having any of your own.

Gammagooey · Post Post #446 (isolation #52) » Mon Jan 17, 2011 4:28 pm

@CKD-Because I already have a read on you.

@feys-VV shot an emp at chess accidently.

I started typing up my very own Personal death list but my read on VPBaltar isn't strong enough to warrant putting Fate on it yet, and a decent portion of the reads on there were partially based on a Fate-scum assumption.

I wanna see VPBaltar post about recent shenanigans and I'll probably have a reads list before tommorrow at 9.

Gammagooey · Post Post #449 (isolation #53) » Mon Jan 17, 2011 5:26 pm

Unless she's conveniently confirming herself as scum for us she's either in A1 or A3, so don't bother.

Gammagooey · Post Post #451 (isolation #54) » Mon Jan 17, 2011 6:09 pm

VP's plan has you going east chess, but I wouldn't mind personally if you head south since there apparently a few people that should be there aren't heading over.

Gammagooey · Post Post #461 (isolation #55) » Tue Jan 18, 2011 1:38 am

curiouskarmadog wrote:
Gammagooey wrote:@CKD-Because I already have a read on you.

Gammagooey wrote:I can't read CKD for the life of me.
do tell

Your tantrum and ridiculous firing at chesskid gave me pretty close to the same read I have on Furc- A liability (moreso because of your low hp than actions, but still a decent bit of worry there), but more likely town than not.

Gammagooey · Post Post #464 (isolation #56) » Tue Jan 18, 2011 1:43 am

You guys.
Plum's in A3. Process of elimination.

Gammagooey · Post Post #466 (isolation #57) » Tue Jan 18, 2011 1:45 am

A3 is NORTHEAST btw to all you people you don't look at Vi's posts.
A is north
B is mid
C is south
numbers are left to right.

Gammagooey · Post Post #467 (isolation #58) » Tue Jan 18, 2011 1:54 am

Feysal, stop rolefishing and start scumhunting. I am deadly serious about this. The ONLY way I would want a massclaim is if it was just limited to the three people that could have shot the northwest, but then that really isn't a massclaim at all.

Gammagooey · Post Post #469 (isolation #59) » Tue Jan 18, 2011 1:58 am

if the people in A1 start firing linearly they are way way way way more likely to hit people in A1 than Plum.

Inhim should hit Plum. I'm considering using Plasma Burst to hit inhims and Plum for 2 dmg each since if Plum IS being dumb-town inhims is the next person I would shoot at from that 3 anyway.

Gammagooey · Post Post #483 (isolation #60) » Tue Jan 18, 2011 4:26 am

Feysal you've asked about why I didn't take damage from vezok's EMP, for a massclaim, and although I'm pretty sure it actually isn't chesskid's not taking damage from VV COULD have been role stuffs. All of that is role related shenanigans that don't need to be talked about right now.
I WILL give you this much though because it's not role-related: VV could have hit chesskid with that direction shot but almost certainly missed like I did in the demo.

Gammagooey · Post Post #485 (isolation #61) » Tue Jan 18, 2011 5:45 am

Siiiiiiiiiiiiigh Feysal.
So I think this should be worth it one way or another.

Plasma Burst: Northeast sector

Gammagooey · Post Post #493 (isolation #62) » Tue Jan 18, 2011 10:32 am

*Points*

Vi wrote: >VasudeVa fires a quick blast south! It doesn't seem to have hit anything.

stuff stuff stuff stuff

>Processing movement...

Gammagooey · Post Post #495 (isolation #63) » Tue Jan 18, 2011 10:39 am

I already hit your region with 2 damage so if Plum's there (and i'm pretty sure she is) we'll see it. You MIGHT be able to do what Fate (in A2 against Plum, not Baltar) did with a linear weapon but I'd ask Vi before trying it.

Gammagooey · Post Post #503 (isolation #64) » Tue Jan 18, 2011 2:20 pm

@Plum-because you said this, and thus didn't move from where you were hit yesterday-

Plum wrote: Nope. And sorry for not having uncloaked or moved or anything today;

By the way you absolutely need to uncloak.

Gammagooey · Post Post #504 (isolation #65) » Tue Jan 18, 2011 2:21 pm

Oh you already submitted it I'm dumm.

Gammagooey · Post Post #513 (isolation #66) » Tue Jan 18, 2011 4:30 pm

There are some serious shenanigans going on.

I was wrong about Plum being in A3- I was pretty sure that Vi's "looked like you didn't hit anything" in regards to VV's attack meant that he actually didn't hit anything, and Plum just had a shield of some sort in A3.

Significantly more important is that apparently I didn't get the module. I'm very, very, VERY tempted to just start unloading at CKD at this point.

Explanation pleaaaaase.

Gammagooey · Post Post #514 (isolation #67) » Tue Jan 18, 2011 4:43 pm

Wait no Vi said that a module pickup had to be publicly in-thread.
So it's just scums being scums.

Gammagooey · Post Post #533 (isolation #68) » Tue Jan 18, 2011 7:31 pm

Yeaaaaaah fate needs to get dead unless by some shenanigans I'm wrong about VPB. (who will be dead either today or tommorrow barring healing/shields).

TOWN
chesskid

town
VV
CKD

leaning town
Furc
Plum (yes i know everyones going to disagree with me on this-it's mostly gut)

DeadmanWalking
VPB

Whatthehellwhyaren'tyouposting
TBM
vezok

DA SCUM READS
FATE
FEYSAL
INHIMS.

Scum reads will be explained on request.

maximum one request per person

Gammagooey · Post Post #535 (isolation #69) » Tue Jan 18, 2011 7:37 pm

If VP flips scum (which wouldn't be a GIANT shocker), then chances are at least 2 of the scum reads will be changed. If he flips town then you three can die a thousand deaths.

Gammagooey · Post Post #536 (isolation #70) » Tue Jan 18, 2011 7:38 pm

Hey Fate your whip does 5 damage right?

Gammagooey · Post Post #537 (isolation #71) » Tue Jan 18, 2011 7:39 pm

And no it's not going to affect anything but my movement today considering you've already used it on VPB

Gammagooey · Post Post #539 (isolation #72) » Tue Jan 18, 2011 7:41 pm

I'm guessing vezok's ability is affecting people in A1, thus reduced cooldowns.

Gammagooey · Post Post #542 (isolation #73) » Tue Jan 18, 2011 8:04 pm

I'm really quite depressed that neither of you are even bothering to ask me WHY I think that two of what are apparently you guyz's town reads are scum.

If it makes you feel better TBM is pretty close to where you are.

Gammagooey · Post Post #557 (isolation #74) » Wed Jan 19, 2011 6:26 am

@VP-You've actually got 2 days if you want to take that long- I forgot about the --Fading-- thing that means we have to wait another day for a flip.

I still don't understand how you all can have a town read on Feysal when he's done jackshit in overall scumhunting so far, especially when half of his posts are generally poor speculation (sometimes even on things that have already been explained or determined) and recaps. But I have enough other scum reads to be okay with ignoring him for now.

TBM is fine to replace him on ze scumlist given his posts elsewhere on the site yesterday.

Nobody should be shooting again until VPB flips. Scum lists would be useful before then to figure out who to focus fire down though. (assume he flips town because the game gets significantly easier if i'm wrong and he flips scum)

Gammagooey · Post Post #562 (isolation #75) » Wed Jan 19, 2011 7:16 am

Feysal wrote:Actually, Fate should not be able to shoot anyone tomorrow. He used the Plasma Whip, and it has a cooldown of 2 days. Unless vezokpiraka somehow reduces that to 1... I've seen no evidence in form of actions that his ability works, and that troubles me.

I'm PRETTY FUCKING SURE there has been evidence that it works. Go reread the thread.
Actually you wouldn't even have to do that. Just go reread all of Vi's day end posts.

Gammagooey · Post Post #567 (isolation #76) » Wed Jan 19, 2011 9:20 am

Feysal.
You know that Plasma whip is a 2-day cooldown.
YOU MADE THE ACTION CHARTS saying that Fate used Plasma Whip one day and then another ability the next.
He couldn't do that if there were not shenanigans going on.

Gammagooey · Post Post #569 (isolation #77) » Wed Jan 19, 2011 9:24 am

Vi has said it AT LEAST TWICE.

You guys are the most frustrating people.

Gammagooey · Post Post #573 (isolation #78) » Wed Jan 19, 2011 11:54 am

aaaaah, I was Pretty sure it failed because Plum wasn't there or it wouldn't have been on Vi's action list at all but at least i can understand where you're getting that from.

But I had EMP in the demo and it was a 2-day cooldown so it IS at least working for vezok.

I guess we'll see if it works for everyone else at 9.

Gammagooey · Post Post #582 (isolation #79) » Wed Jan 19, 2011 3:41 pm

You're thinking scum roleblocker instead of vezok's ability not working for various reasons for reasons that may include its misreading and/or nonexistance?

Gammagooey · Post Post #584 (isolation #80) » Wed Jan 19, 2011 3:44 pm

Move:North

Gammagooey · Post Post #589 (isolation #81) » Wed Jan 19, 2011 4:28 pm

Fate, hold off shooting anyone until closer to 9pm tommorrow.

I still want reads from TBM, hearing them from VV and CKD would be nice too.
And vezok needs to at least TRY to explain his shenanigans.

But yeah Fate go meditate or something for a while
be at peaaaaaaaace.

Gammagooey · Post Post #610 (isolation #82) » Thu Jan 20, 2011 11:52 am

@TBM- Your questions bore me.

I DEMAND

BLOOD

REAAAAADS.

Gammagooey · Post Post #651 (isolation #83) » Thu Jan 20, 2011 5:28 pm

Move:West

Comments on stuff when I read it later tonight.

Gammagooey · Post Post #653 (isolation #84) » Thu Jan 20, 2011 5:42 pm

I thought you were kidding after that ckd OMG DISCUSSION debacle yesterday.

And if I had a module I'd have to drop the first one to get this so why would i be bothering to get this one.

But anyway.

CKD can die for that retardedness
TBM should die soon and i'll probably start shooting at him tommorrow.

Gammagooey · Post Post #657 (isolation #85) » Thu Jan 20, 2011 6:00 pm

vezokpiraka wrote:I have to drop this special ability in order to take a new one.
Anyone got their weapon recharged quicker?

Gammagooey · Post Post #659 (isolation #86) » Thu Jan 20, 2011 6:02 pm

Fate if I could shoot you right now i would.
Just to let you know that.

Gammagooey · Post Post #662 (isolation #87) » Thu Jan 20, 2011 6:07 pm

heh.

I will be racing you to that module it seems.

And you're right about the shot having nothing to do with the item.

But vezok is more probtown than TBM or you, AND you've been the trigger-happiest motherfucker in the entire game.
so yeah.
You can die.

Gammagooey · Post Post #663 (isolation #88) » Thu Jan 20, 2011 6:08 pm

so apparently you ninjaed me but my post fits your ninja question anyway so i don't even need to acknowledge it.
BUT I'M DOING IT ANYWAY.

You haven't done ANYTHING to make me think you're town
Which can be said for just about everyone else in the game, EVEN MY OTHER STRONG SCUM READS.

Gammagooey · Post Post #668 (isolation #89) » Thu Jan 20, 2011 6:18 pm

Fate I'm not going to get into a yelling match with you.

Vezok having ONLY a 1-day EMP makes no sense for scum, and you know that vezok wouldn't hide an ability if he thought he could claim it to save his own ass.

TBM makes Much more sense as scum, and you've passed him over several times to instead shoot at probtown.

Feysal and inhim have at least played like town if i'm right about them being scum, whereas you've fired as often as possible as much as possible while ignoring everyone else's reads.

TBM at least has the early hp claim which looked town.

You have none of that.

And vezok already said that you can't have more than special module at once, And I quoted it for you.

Gammagooey · Post Post #672 (isolation #90) » Thu Jan 20, 2011 6:26 pm

You call TBM's questions and complete lack of his own reads

And how the fuck could vezok drop it if it was an ability and not a module. Really now.

I didn't respond to your initial question about going for the module because I thought it was a damn JOKE.
The "discussion" CKD wanted wound up being a gigantic waste of time that apparently gave scum enough time to get on and steal/remove/destroy/whatever the module to prevent anyone from getting it. I thought you were mocking him, ESPECIALLY after you said earlier that I should just take the module.

Gammagooey · Post Post #674 (isolation #91) » Thu Jan 20, 2011 6:31 pm

EBWOP:You call TBM's questions and complete lack of his own reads town?

And no chess.
CKD needs to die.
Fate needs to die.
And TBM needs to die.
everyone else needs to either chill or move up and start shooting one of those three.

Gammagooey · Post Post #675 (isolation #92) » Thu Jan 20, 2011 6:33 pm

By the way VV you should move- my Current weapon can't hit Fate from the same square so I'll be shooting at TBM instead.

Gammagooey · Post Post #679 (isolation #93) » Thu Jan 20, 2011 6:47 pm

Furc's post about you+Plum made him looked town, although that is pretty much his only town-post.

Feysal nobody's going to actually shoot. (and as a side note JUST MAYBE he'll be able to find some damn reads from this)

CKD I actually wouldn't be THAT surprised if he flipped town but he's playing such a shit game right now that he absolutely needs to die.

VV looks like he's playing under town motivation so yeah I'm gonna tell him to move out of the way.

Gammagooey · Post Post #683 (isolation #94) » Thu Jan 20, 2011 7:21 pm

Preventing you from getting it is a nice bonus at this point but it's mostly because having a weapon that can only shoot adjacent squares sucks quite a whole lot if the player I'm trying to shoot at doesn't want to get shot.

Gammagooey · Post Post #687 (isolation #95) » Thu Jan 20, 2011 8:01 pm

I'm a little confused- chess was that just you typing the wrong person or have your reads changed? (im guessing the wrong person considering the you after Fate had the most recent post)

Gammagooey · Post Post #705 (isolation #96) » Fri Jan 21, 2011 7:58 am

Damnit Vezok now I can't shoot at Button without killing you AND hurting VV.

THIS IS WHY HAVING A LESS SHIT WEAPON WOULD BE USEFUL FOR ME FATE.

And its possible but unlikely IMO Fate. Especially since him shooting vezok really has nothing to do with GETTIN MODULE BEFORE YOU AND IT'S TOTALLY GONNA HAPPEN.
For him to be scum he'd have to
-Bring up the scum-kill role PM stuff and risk someone attacking him like you did to Plum
-Fake getting the understanding of it COMPLETELY WRONG because you know that scum disucssed at the very least how their factional kill works, and have both the initial argument look pretty legit AND go through the trouble of defending his faked assumption

And his play just looks like ballsy town thought process right now, as opposed to yours being at the very least ridiculously anti-town if not scum-motivated (you've tried to shoot at 4 seperate people while stating today that two ADDITIONAL people are scum that are for the most part not connected to the previous 4.)

Gammagooey · Post Post #719 (isolation #97) » Fri Jan 21, 2011 2:24 pm

so shoot at TBM insteaddddd.

Also I'm pretty sure vezok was aiming for Plum instead of me when he hit me earlier so *shrugs*

Gammagooey · Post Post #721 (isolation #98) » Fri Jan 21, 2011 2:52 pm

He said he was trying to hit the whole top row in the same post >.>

Gammagooey · Post Post #722 (isolation #99) » Fri Jan 21, 2011 3:00 pm

Hey Fate this is just for you (and Recettear is awesome although very not relevant to this game):

Pick up Module

Gammagooey · Post Post #728 (isolation #100) » Fri Jan 21, 2011 3:01 pm

I asked Vi about the timing of everything yesterday actually. DEAL W/ IT.

Also

Pick up module

in case it's 9:01

Gammagooey · Post Post #729 (isolation #101) » Fri Jan 21, 2011 3:03 pm

Also you know what else I have right now that you don't?

A CINNAMON ROLL.

Gammagooey · Post Post #730 (isolation #102) » Fri Jan 21, 2011 3:05 pm

Also you're going to get a module tommorrow no matter what anyway so *double shrugs*

Gammagooey · Post Post #733 (isolation #103) » Fri Jan 21, 2011 3:09 pm

I asked Vi yesterday,

she

it PMed me back basically: it's at either 9pm or 9:01 exactly regardless of when Vi posts the scene.

Also stop whining about things you can't win and go get your consolation prize.

Gammagooey · Post Post #737 (isolation #104) » Fri Jan 21, 2011 3:25 pm

chess I know she'll probably flip town and everything but wait until Plum flips tommorrow unless he moves away from that position.

Gammagooey · Post Post #739 (isolation #105) » Fri Jan 21, 2011 3:28 pm

Gut+my other reads don't match up with Plum-scum.

I'm okay with you getting the module.

Gammagooey · Post Post #740 (isolation #106) » Fri Jan 21, 2011 3:28 pm

Also Plum can't talk- Vi posted something about it yesterday i think.

Gammagooey · Post Post #749 (isolation #107) » Fri Jan 21, 2011 4:41 pm

You wouldn't be bitching like this if you had been the first one to post it and I had done it after the mod-post and you know it.
Stop pretending that the only way that would have given you the module is the TRUE FAIR WAY and play the damn game.

Gammagooey · Post Post #752 (isolation #108) » Fri Jan 21, 2011 4:49 pm

I'm pretty sure you would have just pointed to Vi's 734 and laughed a bunch.

Gammagooey · Post Post #766 (isolation #109) » Sat Jan 22, 2011 5:16 am

@VP- I don't get to know what it is until today at 9. (fear the power of PMs)

Gammagooey · Post Post #767 (isolation #110) » Sat Jan 22, 2011 5:44 am

Did VV's movement get cancelled for some reason? He tried to move east yesterday.

Gammagooey · Post Post #769 (isolation #111) » Sat Jan 22, 2011 5:57 am

hey inhims what happened to your reread you were working on yesterday :?

Gammagooey · Post Post #770 (isolation #112) » Sat Jan 22, 2011 6:21 am

Oh and VP won't you be dead by the time you could have picked up the module anyway >.>

Gammagooey · Post Post #772 (isolation #113) » Sat Jan 22, 2011 6:28 am

ITT Fate "forgets" about recharge times for like the 4th time.

Gammagooey · Post Post #774 (isolation #114) » Sat Jan 22, 2011 6:44 am

Why would scum bother blocking their own movement (although personally I think Vi just missed it)

Gammagooey · Post Post #775 (isolation #115) » Sat Jan 22, 2011 7:05 am

Also, let's make some bitches accountable.

IT'S VOTING TIME.

Your options-
Inhim takes 2 damage
Inhim takes no damage

These are your only two options. I won't be firing into A1 because of the damage vezok+VV would take,and I can't shoot at Fate from here. I WILL probably be shooting at fate tommorrow, as my weapon has a one-day cooldown- there's no opportunity cost for shooting at inhims. Personally I think he's likely scum with Fate given the threatening he's done to him only to immediately back off when actually challenged on it, along with simply stating that someone having a scum read on them is funny instead of rebutting the case or just moving on without mentioning it (the more easily explainable version of why this is a scum-tell is that he's trying to dismiss/write off a case on him with humor and try and discredit it that way instead of actually taking it seriously)

Fate's vote doesn't count because I said so.
Inhims vote DOES count but he has to come online and explain what happened to his reread for him to vote.

BEGIN.

Gammagooey · Post Post #776 (isolation #116) » Sat Jan 22, 2011 7:06 am

Oh, and I'm voting for 2 damage.

Gammagooey · Post Post #778 (isolation #117) » Sat Jan 22, 2011 7:31 am

As another side note.

VP if you go east today Fate can be dead tommorrow.

Gammagooey · Post Post #780 (isolation #118) » Sat Jan 22, 2011 7:34 am

Pretty sure you're on cooldown too.

Gammagooey · Post Post #782 (isolation #119) » Sat Jan 22, 2011 9:32 am

Yeeeeep.

Gammagooey · Sat Jan 22, 2011 10:18 am

1 damage a day until you get either a shield that blocks the 1 damage or someone heals you for 1 to counteract it.

Gammagooey · Sat Jan 22, 2011 11:29 am

VP not only is Fate rushing for the module but even if he wasn't you'd die before you can use it-
30->20 tonight
20->10 as you move to center
and 10->0 when you pick it up, and you can't use it until the day after you pick up a module (because you don't have it til then)

Gammagooey · Post Post #808 (isolation #122) » Sat Jan 22, 2011 4:17 pm

HUH.
Plum-SK is not what I expected but it doesn't change any of my earlier reads.

I'm still going to shoot at Fate unless there's any reason for Plum-SK to suggest Fate-town (and I can't think of any).

Gammagooey · Post Post #809 (isolation #123) » Sat Jan 22, 2011 4:40 pm

Yeah re-read: the Plum stuff was apparently justified but the VP+VV+module spazzing is still completely ridiculous.

Plasma Burst: Fate

Gammagooey · Post Post #812 (isolation #124) » Sat Jan 22, 2011 4:54 pm

Naaaaah. But I can't shoot at ButtonMen without killing vezok and I'm not willing to do that. And you not going after people as scum is absolute bullshit and you know it.

Gammagooey · Post Post #815 (isolation #125) » Sat Jan 22, 2011 5:11 pm

It's a little bit paranoid-inducing but he's PRETTY CLOSE to my strongest town read right now. Sooooo I'm not going to be shooting at him any time soon.

Gammagooey · Post Post #819 (isolation #126) » Sat Jan 22, 2011 5:33 pm

Also I do approve of CKD dying after the other mysterious shenanigan was explained by a SK.

Gammagooey · Post Post #822 (isolation #127) » Sat Jan 22, 2011 6:18 pm

I'm pretty sure that explaining my reads and reasonings for things would be both more helpful and more convincing than me explaining why I'm town so ask me about something like that instead plz.

I WILL give you this now though: I do think TBM is more likely scum than you, AND that the Plum attacks make you a little bit more likely to be town. If I thought that you could hold yourself back from shooting until after a TBM death and flip than I'd probably be holding off on shooting you right now.

But you've already shown this game that you're not going to hold your shots for pretty much any controlled death. You're EXTREMELY likely to keep shooting at who I believe are likely town even if I wasn't here, and your scumreads and more importantly weapons fire is all over the damn place- Even if you're town you'll probably do more harm than good, and with you yelling at everyone and shooting at who I think is town you're more likely to be scum than most people in this game IMO.

There's also a secret bonus reason why I think it's dangerous to keep you around but it might just be me being paranoid and dumb- the setup Vi based this on, Unreal Tournament Mafia, didn't have a typical 9-3 setup or even a 9-3-1 or 9-2-1. It had two mafia and two serial killers. And if there IS a second serial killer around here your play matches up with it ABSOLUTELY PERFECTLY.

Gammagooey · Post Post #823 (isolation #128) » Sat Jan 22, 2011 6:30 pm

Btw if the setup IS 8-2-1-1

TBM/Feysal for scumteam 2011 *flags*

Gammagooey · Post Post #824 (isolation #129) » Sat Jan 22, 2011 6:32 pm

But wait then CKD isn't scum and the module dissapearing doesn't really make sense.

*T-T-T-RIPLE SHRUGS*

Gammagooey · Post Post #830 (isolation #130) » Sat Jan 22, 2011 8:27 pm

Gawd I'm watching GSL semifinals.

Chesskid-scum would at least PRETEND to have a decent reason for shooting CKD, and I'm pretty sure he believed it when he said his initial shot was more likely to be hitting scum than town given the square shenanigans, thus town.

Gammagooey · Post Post #831 (isolation #131) » Sat Jan 22, 2011 8:30 pm

Yes I know HERF HE'S TOWN FOR DOING THE SAME THINGS AT DIFFERENT TIMES DERFDERF

But seriously he could have easily not given a reason for the EARLY shot on CKD and gotten away with it like Furc did with his lol,reactions and would easily have a reason to shoot CKD if he actually WANTED to look town about it. If the reasonings were the other way around (no reason d1, reasonz now) he would look a lot worse to me.

Gammagooey · Post Post #844 (isolation #132) » Sat Jan 22, 2011 9:10 pm

Fate you can't be this retarded as town. Really now.

Two scumteams AND A SERIAL KILLER? IN A TWELVE MAN GAME?
Just no.

And you're scum where chess isn't because you think you can get away with it, whereas chesskid just doesn't give a fuck.

Also I barely mentioning TBM-scum throughout ALL OF THAT BULLSHIT and plopping him onto a scumlist with VV then putting inhims there instead is, as spyrex would say, super tech.

@furc- watching it on the gomtv thing.

Gammagooey · Post Post #847 (isolation #133) » Sat Jan 22, 2011 9:13 pm

I will bet all of my mafia credibility on there being not two scumteams in this game. Every last bit of it.

Because Vi is an intelligent person, and having to deal with two scumteams and a serial killer in a game with THIS MUCH CHAOS is not something Vi would consider doing.

Gammagooey · Post Post #854 (isolation #134) » Sat Jan 22, 2011 9:21 pm

I've already said why I think chess is town. It ISN'T a whole lot but I'm pretty confident in it.
If there's three scum+plum-sk then I still think you're one of 'em. Secret bonus reason FOR SOME REASON is not nearly as strong as the rest of what I think about you.

And blaming your reads on having two scumteams instead of just having shitty reads is a pretty nice cop-out btw.

Gammagooey · Post Post #859 (isolation #135) » Sat Jan 22, 2011 9:31 pm

Fate I want you to look at Feysal's posts regarding Plum and then come back here and tell me that you think you're still completely sure that he wasn't just trying to get some credit for her town flip later on.

Then I want you to look at two more things.
The list of people you've shot at or tried to shoot at, and the list of people chess has tried to shoot at.
Then look at the posts where chess calls CKD town and tell me if it makes ANY SENSE AT ALL for him to make those posts when planning to shoot CKD anyway.

Gammagooey · Post Post #861 (isolation #136) » Sat Jan 22, 2011 9:55 pm

Constantly adjusting reads I would be fine with.
Constantly adjusting PERMANENT DAMAGE, including the shot that will kill VPB barring motherfuckin' miracles because you decided that an unremovable damage over time attack would be better than just a lowered damage whip pressure or even a regular whip that would kill him faster if you still thought he was scum two days later, is absolutely not okay, and is damn likely to come from scum if they think they won't face repurcussions for their actions, which you are REMARKABLY good at avoiding.

Also unless VP shoots Fate before the day ends-

VV, after you shoot at Fate get out of this square and readjust the linear map plan so that nobody else should be coming here. I intend to kill Fate tommorrow right here.

Gammagooey · Sat Jan 22, 2011 10:15 pm

Oh wait I misread my new ability.
DISREGARD THAT VV I SUX.

Gammagooey · Post Post #868 (isolation #138) » Sun Jan 23, 2011 6:40 am

@VP (and fate a little i guess)-I still think chess is town, the only person he's shot for shitty reasons this game is CKD, and the second shot was based on CKD's play- it's a Terrible reason but I don't think the shitty reason shooting will continue, to me it looks more like a one-time thing.

I'd rather at least wait for CKD's flip before chesskid gets shot at.

I AM willing to stop shooting at Fate for now if he can calm the hell down with his shooting habits. But if it gets close to endgame OR he goes on a bullet-frenzy again I am taking him out.

Gammagooey · Post Post #870 (isolation #139) » Sun Jan 23, 2011 6:44 am

Also on the offchance that Fate's module is a healing module I think he should use it on VPB- I'm infinitely more confident in VPB-town than Fate-town AND it'll limit some of the damage that the scumkill will do by keeping him alive.

Gammagooey · Post Post #873 (isolation #140) » Sun Jan 23, 2011 7:08 am

Tell me how it would actually help and I'll consider telling everyone Fate.

Gammagooey · Post Post #876 (isolation #141) » Sun Jan 23, 2011 7:16 am

The more info scum have about weapons etc. the better they can prioritize their kills.

Gammagooey · Post Post #878 (isolation #142) » Sun Jan 23, 2011 7:40 am

Fate stop being retarded, really now.

You're about to get a module and see for yourself that your retarded module speculation is in fact, retarded.
And you and chess are pretty much the only people suspecting me so that doesn't really apply here.

Gammagooey · Post Post #880 (isolation #143) » Sun Jan 23, 2011 8:25 am

Pretty sure once you submit it in thread it's final.

Your reasoning doesn't really make sense to me though unless you just want to shoot at me instead, which you can't do because I'm on the other side of the map.

Gammagooey · Post Post #883 (isolation #144) » Sun Jan 23, 2011 9:00 am

vezok that's only if you fire it in a DIRECTION, not at a player, and even then it stops once it hits someone.
You make me very sad.

Fate I think chess is town. And that read plus the fact that I think that he WON'T pull this shit again means that I don't want him shot full of holes.
Unless you have something new to add to all this stop your yelling.

Gammagooey · Sun Jan 23, 2011 10:14 am

See if I actually thought you were TOWN that argument would carry a little more weight.
And I did pretty much the same thing in Mafia Reverb when I replaced in and promptly told two people to crossvote if they were going to be lynched together so one of them couldn't pull some shit to save the other if they were both scum (AND ALSO THEY WERE BOTH SCUM.)

And I actually have changed a few reads, just not the one on chess. VP's agreeing with my Feysal read actually made me think Feysal is more likely town- For him to be scum trying to get cred for Plum-town flip then he would have had to have one of his own scumteam make the shot instead, and Plum's refusal to shoot anything to prove she had another weapon points pretty strongly towards the plasma burst coming from her.

Gammagooey · Sun Jan 23, 2011 12:55 pm

Holy fuck read my iso if you want why I think chess is town that+Fate-scum are the only things I've talked about for the past day.
And once again, if there are two scum teams AND A SERIAL KILLER in a twelve man game then I don't know what the hell Vi is doing and it's okay because that's not what's happening here.

I approve of the TBM-shot. So much.

Gammagooey · Post Post #894 (isolation #147) » Sun Jan 23, 2011 1:02 pm

Gammagooey wrote:Gawd I'm watching GSL semifinals.

Chesskid-scum would at least PRETEND to have a decent reason for shooting CKD, and I'm pretty sure he believed it when he said his initial shot was more likely to be hitting scum than town given the square shenanigans, thus town.

Gammagooey wrote:Yes I know HERF HE'S TOWN FOR DOING THE SAME THINGS AT DIFFERENT TIMES DERFDERF

But seriously he could have easily not given a reason for the EARLY shot on CKD and gotten away with it like Furc did with his lol,reactions and would easily have a reason to shoot CKD if he actually WANTED to look town about it. If the reasonings were the other way around (no reason d1, reasonz now) he would look a lot worse to me.

Gammagooey · Post Post #897 (isolation #148) » Sun Jan 23, 2011 1:23 pm

chess why do you have to make me regret spending all that time trying to explain my read on you?

Gammagooey · Post Post #901 (isolation #149) » Sun Jan 23, 2011 1:27 pm

TBM I severely doubt you've even read the thread when you're still talking about the diagonal plan like that.

Give some damn reads or I'll give you a shot you can't block later tonight.

Chess I frustrated.

Gammagooey · Post Post #905 (isolation #150) » Sun Jan 23, 2011 1:33 pm

No, TBM just blocked VPB's shot against him.

and killed chess.

Gammagooey · Post Post #907 (isolation #151) » Sun Jan 23, 2011 1:34 pm

Chess is already dead, stop being a fuckwit, etc etc

Gammagooey · Post Post #910 (isolation #152) » Sun Jan 23, 2011 1:36 pm

Read VV's post.

A2 B1 C3 is the plan.
It has all the benefits of the A1-B2-C3 diagonal plan with requiring less movement and having at least one square in range of every square for module spawning.
And I still want reads.

Gammagooey · Post Post #920 (isolation #153) » Sun Jan 23, 2011 3:21 pm

@chess-I thought you took 5 damage from the whip and 1 from the EMP, and you had 6 hp.
I DUNNO MAN.

inhims getting the scum hit doesn't really say much given there were only four people who WEREN'T in range of him.

Finally:

Gammagooey wrote: Give some damn reads or I'll give you a shot you can't block later tonight.

I AM A MAN OF MY WORD.

Plasma Burst:Northwest/A1

Gammagooey · Post Post #925 (isolation #154) » Sun Jan 23, 2011 3:50 pm

VV assuming you-town I'm PRETTY SURE that TBM did it. Especially with his reluctance to move or change from the A1 plan despite having the revised plan spelled out to him several times. Vezok having a special module that reduces his other cooldowns WOULD clear him from it if the gamma-pulse works exactly like the sample PM, but even assuming that the gamma-pulse used yesterdays averages (would be 6 rounded down) he still shouldn't have died, meaning it's probably been changed in at least some way.

Gammagooey · Post Post #928 (isolation #155) » Sun Jan 23, 2011 4:55 pm

Faaaaaate.

You don't think TBM showing up the moment he gets fired at needs a second look?
How about the complete lack of reads?
Or the complete ignorance of VV's plan when it would have cleared him from the scumshot?

Or since you've apparently got a gigantic hard-on for attacking people who think you're scum:

TheButtonmen wrote:
@inHim:
inHimshallibe wrote:And yes, that means a change on Fate, as he is controlling himself for now. If he shoots again all willy and nilly, I'll probably just kill him.
Fate changing his behaviour when pressured is actually somewhat disturbing to me as TownFate is bullheaded/confident enough to ignore any and all attempts to change his style.

I need to read some ScumFate games.

And then never mentioning it again.

Gammagooey · Post Post #933 (isolation #156) » Sun Jan 23, 2011 6:02 pm

@fate-OR DOES IT?
Also isn't that game over, thus no need for redactation?

(happy scumday)

Gammagooey · Post Post #943 (isolation #157) » Sun Jan 23, 2011 8:43 pm

MMMmmmmmmmmmm TBM can be dead next cycle assuming VPB shoots at him again today. It tastes so good.

Probably even better than that cake (which although awesome, doesn't look that delicious).
I'm watching the current season of GSL (season 4 i think), watching the live stuff at gomtv and anything I miss here, it has older seasons on there too under 2010 if you want to look them up. http://kowiz.cowxp.net/SC2/?year=2011&l ... p1&round=4

Gammagooey · Post Post #952 (isolation #158) » Mon Jan 24, 2011 5:00 am

VPPPPPPPPP I wish you had said you had the sneaky module pickup ability in the demo earlier but thank you a billion times for saying it now.

Unless CKD flips scum (or inhims flips a second SK or some madness) there's only two people who could have taken it- chess and Feysal.

And yes I know all of you will disagree with me on Feysal taking it over chess but we can basically get a guaranteed DELICIOUS SCUMS either way.

TBM dies first though.

Gammagooey · Post Post #954 (isolation #159) » Mon Jan 24, 2011 5:04 am

That module was taken like 4-5 days ago though.
And actually I asked Vi a bit after me and Fate's big argument and you can have more than one picked-up module at once, I think just you can't have two specials, like cloak+vezok's ability at once.

Gammagooey · Post Post #962 (isolation #160) » Mon Jan 24, 2011 5:18 am

VP is the module thief a special module or a support module?

If special I'm pretty sure Plum couldn't have that AND the cloak at once.

SEE FATE THIS IS WHY YOU LISTEN TO MY CRAZY PARANOIAS.

Gammagooey · Post Post #973 (isolation #161) » Mon Jan 24, 2011 1:35 pm

Hey VPB how long is the cooldown on the module thief ability? It's not incredibly important but it would be nice to know before you go off into the great beyond :(

Gammagooey · Post Post #975 (isolation #162) » Mon Jan 24, 2011 2:31 pm

Now I'm just imagining that lord of the rings scene with Pokemon instead of people.

THIS! IS! ...wait, wrong scene. ~Vi

Gammagooey · Post Post #980 (isolation #163) » Mon Jan 24, 2011 3:27 pm

Pewpew.

Goodbye.

Plasma Burst:A1/Northwest

Gammagooey · Post Post #983 (isolation #164) » Mon Jan 24, 2011 5:17 pm

Uhm you can do something similar to that but there's really absolutely no reason to do so. It's still only going to hit one person, if it hits at all with a directional shot.

Why ARE you shooting at the area instead of just one or the other by the way?

Gammagooey · Post Post #986 (isolation #165) » Mon Jan 24, 2011 5:32 pm

I shot Fate earlier. and no, unless they're cloaked it's a 100% chance of hitting whoever the hell you target at with a linear-firing weapon. Unless there are weird shenanigans.
Or If i'm wrong but I don't think I'm wrong about mechanics THIS TIME.

But TBM dies first, and assuming a TBM scum flip (because TBM is scum), Feysal needs death immediately afterwards.

Gammagooey · Post Post #989 (isolation #166) » Mon Jan 24, 2011 5:40 pm

It says nothing about reduced accuracy in the rules for being more than 1 square away with a linear weapon. Just a 60% accuracy on directionally fired weapon.

And the Unless...Plum from Feysal looks super duper faked. When was the last time you realized something and then typed it up like that later. (hint: nevar, you just say that you think Plum did it not chess because *reasonsreasonsreasons*)

Gammagooey · Post Post #990 (isolation #167) » Mon Jan 24, 2011 5:44 pm

Speaking of "Unless" type that into a find on Feysal's last page of iso.

Holy excessive qualitative statements Batman.

Gammagooey · Tue Jan 25, 2011 7:50 am

Feysal if you really want my case on you I'll type it up either later tonight or tommorrow.

If furc wants to revive someone he should get the hell on with it, inhims probably SHOULD have been the ressurrect given that he took the scumshot but VPB is still a damn good choice to revive.

Gammagooey · Tue Jan 25, 2011 10:00 am

>Calling you town is a towntell
NOPE.

I will seriously consider moving east but not until tommorrow (aka after 9pm tonight), when I know that TBM won't be able to cheese out survival with a shield/support ability.

Gammagooey · Tue Jan 25, 2011 10:06 am

No Fate.
You can come here if you'd like, but I have absolutely no intention of giving TBM a chance to survive any longer than he already has.

Gammagooey · Tue Jan 25, 2011 10:08 am

I can use it every day, hence if TBM lives I just shoot him again.

Gammagooey · Tue Jan 25, 2011 10:10 am

I just told you you can come here if you want.

Gammagooey · Tue Jan 25, 2011 10:19 am

Hey Fate when TBM flips scum can you admit for me that your reads have been a pile of shit this game?

It would be pretty nice.

Gammagooey · Tue Jan 25, 2011 10:21 am

Actually no you won't admit to that because you'll just bring up Plum like 14 times even though she was a SK and not actually mafia.

admitting that your SHOTS were a pile of shit is also acceptable.

Gammagooey · Tue Jan 25, 2011 10:26 am

*shrug* I'd put more money on Feysal-scum than you-scum, but it's a nice note for me to have if you turn out to be town at the end of the game.
Thanks friend :3

Gammagooey · Tue Jan 25, 2011 10:34 am

Sigh Fate. Will you finally help me kill Feysal assuming TBM-scum and chess-town? Plum having stolen the module really doesn't make sense given the 2 day cooldown and her not bothering to fire a different weapon to clear herself from the NW shot: I'll go into more detail in the feysal-case though.

And Fate I've told you about all my paranoias with you being a second SK.

Gammagooey · Tue Jan 25, 2011 10:42 am

Fate wrote:If chess flips town we'll go with Feysals town

Gammagooey · Tue Jan 25, 2011 11:10 am

Damnit Fate this whole piece of shit is making me paranoid.
Real damn paranoid.

Gammagooey · Tue Jan 25, 2011 11:12 am

Furc's still alive and probtown though so I guess we're good.

Gammagooey · Tue Jan 25, 2011 2:05 pm

Fate if chess flips scum I will give you all the internet cookies I have.
I do want them back if TBM flips scum though.
And double cookies if chess-town and TBM-scum.
(MY SCUMGAMBIT IS THAT I HAVE NO COOKIES)

I really wish I could be surprised by Furc using terrible terrible logic (herf active is scum herfderf) but nope. I can't manage it.

And unless Furc already submitted it VP is screwed anyway, chess's shot hitting won't affect it.

Gammagooey · Tue Jan 25, 2011 3:10 pm

So, east or south?

I'm gonna go ahead and type up the Feys case now but I've got around 6 hours of homework I need to do by tommorrow so don't expect any responses to questions about it until...well, tommorrow.

Gammagooey · Tue Jan 25, 2011 3:52 pm

Feysal's right in that there aren't really DIRECT links from him to TBM- TBM did a pretty decent job of staying alive while giving absolutely no information to help whatsoever.

The only real connections between them are similar behaviors, which aren't going to be brought up til' near the end of this.

This was the very first thing that made my scumdar start twitching about Feysal-

Feysal wrote:Damn, had we played this smarter, we would stand a far better chance of evading death from scum actions.

If it was not clear yet, there must be
no more unauthorized shooting!

The first part is pretty simple- It's bitching about shit that we can't do anything about, trying to fake a reaction to look town that's both useless and trying to comment on how poorly other people are playing instead of actually scumhunting.

The second part is a good idea to be sure, but there was absolutely nothing there to back it up- no threats of damaging or killing people who don't get in line, nothing stating who's on watch because of their dumb/scummy actions, and no accountability himself for allowing poor decisions to occur all around him.

This is also when I noticed that he had absolutely jackshit in reads, except the arguing for Plum-town with essentially nothing behind it.
When asked for initial reads all he could come up with was CKD-scum but I don't personally find that particularly scummy given the early game-state.

The Plum stuff in particular looked bad to me after Plum's flip, then was confusing as hell, but I think I have it figured out. Although having TBM as scum would make this more likely (just because I don't think they would talk a whole lot about it so Feys would probably go on his own thoughts), it isn't really crucial to the case.
Plum really didn't have much of a reason to be town aside from the cloak and the other scummy/not scummy people connected to her, and the defense of her from Feysal looks a LOT like scum trying to get credit for a town flip. However, if Feysal knew his scumteam hadn't done it why risk trying to defend someone that could be a SK or (from a beginning of the game standpoint, it's still dumb now) on a different scumteam?

Ze answer:He thought Plum COULDN'T be on an alternate scumteam, and that one of inhims/VV was and did the shot instead. A large part of his argument for Plum-town was that people with special abilities wouldn't be scum. I still think a 9-2-1-1 setup would make a lot of sense here, and even a 9-2-1 would work if Vi thought that the lack of info roles and general chaos would warrant a smaller scumteam. If Feysal only had one partner I can very easily see him thinking that there's an alternate scumteam in a twelve man game (especially with an info role given by his demo PM)

But he cleared Plum from being on the (THEORETICAL) other scumteam because both of his members had a Gamma Pulse, and if one member was without it losing the first would absolutely CRIPPLE the scumteam as a whole, even with a cloaked member.

There's a few more things but they're either dependant on TBM's flip or similar to the first scummy statement I pointed out-

Feysal wrote:So, CKD was town. Damn him. If he had not overreacted, twice, and attacked chesskid3 and Plum without authorization, he could still be alive.

so I'll save that for tommorrow.

The last part of THIS post is the similar behaviors between TBM and Feys-

TheButtonmen wrote:To be clear I'm not saying my way or the highway; whatever the majority decided on I'm willing to abide by as that's the exact thing I want to avoid.

However I agree with the waiting for others to check in portion.

^ The same condemnation of semi-random attacks with no acceptance of responsibility for making it happen

TBM wrote:In regards to the explosion I'm currently not on cool down as evidenced by;

PlasmaWhip(VP, 0 damage)

More to come once I'm done rereading.

And the same trying to pseudo-clear themselves from the scumsplosion in the northwest quadrant.

However, there is a part 2 of this, Just for Feysal- The current part is all about day play and why I think he's scum based on his posts.
The next one is suited much more for his style though- It's all about why I think either he's scum solely on game mechanics :3

Quote tag fixed. ~Vi

Gammagooey · Tue Jan 25, 2011 3:53 pm

Boo

@Vi: Can you fix my TBM quote please?

Gammagooey · Tue Jan 25, 2011 4:02 pm

This part is pretty simple.

Someone stole the item I tried to pickup while I was in the same square as CKD.
It's either Plum, chess, or Feysal. And if it's chess then he's about to flip scum anyway so we're all good, and this is really just between him and Plum.

But Plum picking it up doesn't make sense.
If it was a weapon, it's on a different cooldown than the support module thief ability, so she would have just fired it to pseudo-clear herself from the blast like TBM and Feysal did.

If it was shield or support, why didn't she heal herself or stop some of CKD's blast? A support would have been recharged two days before the whip, so there's no reason why she wouldn't have done that earlier- There's ONE shield that blocks only one damage that I've seen but I don't think it's likely she got that of all the possibilities.

Feysal taking it makes waaaaaaay more sense to me just based on the very limited abilities she could have gotten and reasonably then not used at all to help or save herself.

(yes the posting part of the case was better but of course it is it's day play vs. "night" actions)

Gammagooey · Tue Jan 25, 2011 7:15 pm

So I finished my 2nd out of 7 parts of homework so I'm taking a break >.>

And apparently Feysal either can't read or just feels like lying about my case.

Me wrote:The first part is pretty simple- It's bitching about shit that we can't do anything about, trying to fake a reaction to look town that's both useless and trying to comment on how poorly other people are playing instead of actually scumhunting.

The second part is a good idea to be sure, but there was absolutely nothing there to back it up- no threats of damaging or killing people who don't get in line, nothing stating who's on watch because of their dumb/scummy actions, and no accountability himself for allowing poor decisions to occur all around him.

A)This doesn't fit into any of your shitty summary and is just plain scummy behavior

Feys wrote:One: not having reads at the very start of the game is scummy. This is obviously false. How often have you had reliable reads so soon into a game? I would be much more suspicious of someone who claimed to have good reads so early.

me wrote:When asked for initial reads all he could come up with was CKD-scum
but I don't personally find that particularly scummy given the early game-state.

and B) What the fuck are you smoking to get THE EXACT OPPOSITE OF WHAT I JUST WROTE.

Gammagooey · Tue Jan 25, 2011 7:17 pm

Oh and

Move:East

but not listening to people who are scum-reads =/= claiming scum Mr. Fate sir.

Gammagooey · Tue Jan 25, 2011 7:21 pm

Oh I forgot one more thing

Feysal wrote:Oh and by the way, a 9-2-1-1 setup would make no sense whatsoever. That would require 13 players, and we had 12. Also, there was absolutely no setup speculation in thread before Plum flipped. It never occurred to me that there could be a serial killer.

C.1)8-2-1-1 you know what I meant.
C.2)Part of a serial killer not occuring to you and instead you-scum thinking it was an alternate scumteam that made the NW plasma burst and therefore NOT Plum was part of the case against you.

Gammagooey · Tue Jan 25, 2011 7:25 pm

Feysal thought there were 2 teams at the beginning of the game because of a scumgroup of only 2 players, when it's either 9-2-1 because of either expected Chaos by Vi or 8-2-1-1 to mimic unreal tournament mafia.

Gammagooey · Tue Jan 25, 2011 7:30 pm

actually vezok is probably town and TBM WILL FLIP SCUM I DECREE IT so uh.

Yeah VV moving south was probably a dumb thing to have happened.

Gammagooey · Tue Jan 25, 2011 7:36 pm

Having the words Feysal and town next to each other hurt me Fate.
They hurt me real deep.

And when have I ever 2dum4scum'd ever. Everrrrrrr.
VV's actions just aren't doing what I thought they were doing (making Feysal dead faster upon TBM-scumflip).

VV I know vezok's play hasn't been GOOD (and it never is) but he doesn't have a gamma-pulse so other people can die before him.

Gammagooey · Wed Jan 26, 2011 3:46 am

Aaaaaand apparently one of Fate/VV is scum with a mining ability.

VV I want some PRETTY DAMN GOOD REASONS not to shoot you when I come back later today.

Gammagooey · Wed Jan 26, 2011 4:54 am

Mines are offense? I thought they'd be support.

On the bright side, I can feel redeemed for shooting at Fate earlier.

Gammagooey · Wed Jan 26, 2011 5:12 am

And on the haha you messed up too side (im sorry i couldn't help it), I couldn't have set the mine there myself either-

Vi wrote:>Processing actions...

>
You hear a clicking sound...'

stuff

>
Region A1 was engulfed in a sparking explosion! TheButtonmen is hit!

I fired the Plasma burst that day :3

My top two scum reads are in a 1 to 1 with each other, and Fate finally gets to die.
My day is getting significantly better.

Fate's probably going to kill me now but at least he can go down with me =D

Gammagooey · Wed Jan 26, 2011 5:18 am

Hey Furcolow, you can get FREE TOWN POINTS for moving west and shooting at Fate.

Absolutely freeeee.

Gammagooey · Wed Jan 26, 2011 6:36 am

Hey fate, let's play fill in the blank.

So you used that instead of a plasma whip And did it before waiting for TBM to flip because BLANK.

Gammagooey · Wed Jan 26, 2011 6:39 am

And Feysal just have Furc move west and shoot him if he stays anywhere on that line, while you move north.

Gammagooey · Wed Jan 26, 2011 7:27 am

Pretty much yeah, but I think he'll just stay in the same square as me.

Gammagooey · Wed Jan 26, 2011 9:35 am

Hey Fate. There hasn't been a mine explosion since the demo, and the only clicking sound that's similar was when there was 5 people grouped up in A1.
And Feysal had a mine in the demo. It isn't him guessing at whether or not it's one or the other.

I've explained all my reads and theories and ideas and paranoias and specifically stated multiple times that the SK paranoia isn't as strong as the rest of why I think you're scum.

I really don't have a lot to say to you anymore, I've got almost 200 posts of me explaining things and you ignoring it.
I'll see you tommorrow.

Gammagooey · Wed Jan 26, 2011 9:45 am

Fate as a warning I haven't slept in around 27 hours.

I feel quite strongly at this point that you're scum and I don't think you're going to ever do anything to change that, and after your play over the course of this game it's already been shown that you don't hold my opinions to mean more than a puddle of spit.
I don't see the point of talking to you about this anymore.