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I like the game's flavor.
Ninja Monkeys are eating fishbowl goldfish!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
oh and there's mafia too-
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Vote: AGarbecause I know Parama and an RVS bandwagon on him doesn't tell us shit.-
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Actually, you know what? Neither would AGar's.
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[winger] wrote:You have a problem with DemonHybrid's vote on you, pianist?
I'd say yes.crazypianist1116 wrote:
LolDemonHybrid wrote:Actually, you know what? Neither would AGar's.
Unvote, Vote: crazypianist
Can we get a bandwagon on this guy?-
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Um...
What bluff? I like my vote on you now.-
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Mod: Can you please post your votecounts instead of editing posts so I can ISO you when needed?-
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Oso, you make a lot of good points after rereading; the winger suspicion is completely valid in my eyes.
However, since I'm not going to worry about setup speculation yet though with this traitor business, and crazy seems a bit more obvious to me at the moment, I'm not going to vote winger. I'm quite happy with crazy's panic and I want more information from him and, right now, his death. But I just wanted to mention that I agree, just not to the extent that you believe, so consider my eye on him.-
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Because I felt like I RVS voted the wrong person and no information would come of it.Bub Bidderskins wrote:Wait, come to think of it...
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It is a random vote because the person who I was voting was random. My reasoning and wagon pushing was not random; in fact, no one's reasoning should be "random", the reasoning being to get us out of RVS. It's the VOTEE that is random. If I had voted for anyone else, you would not be singing this tune.2. DemonHybrid, your vote was not random. Your bluff was that you were clearly trying to get someone you saw as a noob to crack under pressure that didn't really exist. Your "wagon" didn't really have a reason.
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Maybe it would help you if I went over my course of actions.
I voted AGar to get a wagon on him to give us information, while saying that Parama's wagon would give us no information; he's a smooth enough player to write off RVS wagons like they're nothing. After which, I thought about it for a minute and realized that AGar would probably do the same thing. I've played in games with both players, and I know them well enough that wagons on them would give us little information.
So, I picked a person at random. I thought about voting winger to get a wagon on him, but decided on you. I don't know why I chose you, but you were one of the players with a vote already. THAT would be random.
Yeah, sure. You can nitpick and say it's not fully random from 12 players, but who really cares? You reacted badly to the vote, so I like it; it instantly became non-random, but when I chose you, yes, it was random from a downsized pool of players.-
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So, in other words, you took the vote completely serious. Which is everyone's case on you.-
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Crazy, you can say that it wasn't a bad reaction all you want, but the fact that you're even trying to peg a specific reason on why I voted you onto my vote shows clearly that you DO care about my vote. I really don't buy any of what you're saying.-
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Unvote, Vote: Sundy
Forget the crazy wagon, Sundy just made me a whole hell of a lot sure that he is scum. Like Parama said; three suspicions but not a vote placed on EITHER one of them? THREE? Instead, you go with one of the big bandwagons, say you agree with it, and that's it, right?
CP may or may not be covering up for his RVS-vote seriousness, but Sundy just started screaming "HEY I'M SCUM" from his very first serious post.-
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Sundy wrote:I express negative vibes about 3 players, and next thing you know all of them freak out to various degrees. Why so touchy, hmm? Granted I often draw a wagon on myself the first day, and maybe my play-style is at fault, but in my view people need to chill out (if they're town), and keep on being crazy to demonstrate your evil to everyone (if they're scum).
AGar - :goodposting:, though I don't agree with your point on TwistedSpoon. Newbie card playing has been null to me in the past.AGar wrote:Problem with Sundy: Rattling off suspicions of 3 players, then voting for a competing wagon, tying it with the leading wagon.
Problem with [winger]: See my previous postings. Has done nothing to ease this belief.
Problem with TwistedSpoon: Newbie card is not a valid excuse. If you play the newbie card for every player who makes one newbie screw up, everyone is going to take that and run with it if their first game they draw scum. Seriously, there should be a minimum 1 NG requirement on-site.[/mdrant]
And from what I've experienced in the past, there is a TON of scum motivation to doing exactly what you're doing at this stage in the game: expressing suspicion on multiple players but voting a popular wagon. I'm suspicious that you seem to have absolutely no realization of how scummy that is.-
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"And from what I've experienced in the past, there is a TON of scum motivation to doing exactly what you're doing at this stage in the game: expressing suspicion on multiple players but voting a popular wagon. I'm suspicious that you seem to have absolutely no realization of how scummy that is."
Was meant to be towards Sundy, apologies.-
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So, you don't believe the claim, but "We'll most likely lose him tonight"?Akira wrote:I'll quickly express my thoughts as I can't be online for too much right now:
I don't believe the claim myself. Putting aside all his scummy behavior, he was way too quick with the claim. A real doc would have at least waited until someone was about to hammer. He even wanted to claim at L-2, which strikes me as scummy.
But staying on the wagon won't do much. We'll most likely lose him tonight, so UNVOTE:
NEW TARGET ACQUIRED
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This vote is not coming off. Akira is slipping all over the place, harder than a baby on an ice skating rink.-
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Cause demon is a pretty cool dude. eh finds mafia and doesn't afraid of anythingAGar wrote: Why do you find these people before me Matt?-
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...um, what?And I'm still waiting to see how Akira comes back from his slip, because the comeback dictates more about a player than the initial slip.
A comeback is what CONFUSES the playerbase; the slip is genuine.-
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Oh, my god.Cecily wrote:I'm not defending Akira.
I'm saying that it could have just been an error in wording.
Speech is one of the easiest things to mess up without realizing it
actions, especially in a place such as this, are deliberate and show more about a person than what they say.
And I'm using the word slip loosely.-
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The bolded is all we need from you.Akira wrote:Let me explain myself:
The way I wrote this post,Akira wrote:I'll quickly express my thoughts as I can't be online for too much right now:
I don't believe the claim myself. Putting aside all his scummy behavior, he was way too quick with the claim. A real doc would have at least waited until someone was about to hammer. He even wanted to claim at L-2, which strikes me as scummy.
But staying on the wagon won't do much. We'll most likely lose him tonight, sothe contradiction is obvious, I can see that. But when I said we'd most likely lose him tonight, I meant that in the case that he was telling the truth.
So what I wanted to say is:if I'm wrong and he's really the doc, then we'll most likely lose him tonight.
I was in a hurry posting this and I missed that part, so the real 'slip' here is that I missed a crucial part of my sentence.
So you recognize it was a slip. Cool.-
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OH LOOK He said he was a VT!Akira wrote:4 posts while I was writing and now I'm at L-1?
I'm a Vanilla Townie
That means he's confirmed town! Right, Cecily?
Right?
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Whoever doesn't have a vote on Akira has my complete permission to hammer him. If he flips scum, I will cling onto a Cecily vote for dear life. You'll get an unvote from me over my dead body.-
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Can't go into too much detail. Sitting on my phone in scranton until the weather's nicer, but I have a comment.AGar wrote:VOTE: DemonHybrid
Yesterday smells completely like chaining lynches after a bus.
Nice try though.
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And Parama posted minutes after I did. What is your point?-
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But how am I different than someone like Parama, or better yet, someone who didn't vote Akira but voted Cecily?AGar wrote:
You set your vote in mind on D1. It's straight up chaining lynches.DemonHybrid wrote:
Can't go into too much detail. Sitting on my phone in scranton until the weather's nicer, but I have a comment.AGar wrote:VOTE: DemonHybrid
Yesterday smells completely like chaining lynches after a bus.
Nice try though.
What is your case for me over anyone else who voted Cecily?
Sundy is suspect to me for that reason.-
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Sorry, actually, Bub was the one that wasn't on the first wagon.
I'm on my iPad and things are tough to read, names are hard to remember.-
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You realize that Parama said the same thing? Why aren't you on his case?AGar wrote:
This post:DemonHybrid wrote:But how am I different than someone like Parama, or better yet, someone who didn't vote Akira but voted Cecily?
That's not a town mindset. At all.DemonHybrid wrote:Whoever doesn't have a vote on Akira has my complete permission to hammer him. If he flips scum, I will cling onto a Cecily vote for dear life. You'll get an unvote from me over my dead body.
For the record, I find you extremely misguided town. You find the first person who committed such an action and bite them instead of looking at the big picture, and I don't think that you as scum would try something so wacky.
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So, you're voting based off of word choice over intent? Think about what you're saying.
My question: there are people who voted Cecily but not Akira, and there were people who voted Akira late and still voted Cecily. What do you think of those people?-
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Parama, where did I say I thought you were scum? You've looked town all game.Parama wrote:oh man DH you're acting like scum now. Why are you, instead of providing a defense to AGar's accusations, deflecting to me EVERY SINGLE TIME? Especially since I don't think you've ever pressed any suspicions on me.
Town read redacted; guess I'm gullible for whatever type of WIFOM Akira pulled there.-
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My only point in defense of AGar is that if he's going to suspect me for it and not anyone else for doing the same thing, his read is off and he's literally picking from random. I think that you and AGar are very town.-
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Laziness. I would have named them right off but I'm not on the position to freely do what I want. I don't have a mouse and a keyboard.Oso wrote:
FTFY and that would be Bub Bidderskins - re:not voting Akira, voting Cecily.DemonHybrid wrote:So, you're voting based off of word choice over intent? Think about what you're saying.
My question: thereare peopleis only one person still alivewho voted Cecily but not Akira, and there were people who voted Akira late and still voted Cecily. What do you think of those people?
To the second part, crazy is the most glaring example but Twistedspoon could also qualify depending on your personal definition of "late".
I know why I don't like either of those players at the moment, but I'd like to hear exactly why you don't and why you took such a roundabout way to point a finger at Bub and crazy without directly naming them.-
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Sorry for multi posting but yaddayaddashutupimdoingmybest
After Akira and cecily, by pure play alone, crazy's D1 actions don't ring well to me. However, in the context of the last two lynch wagons, I didn't name anyone off. In fact, I hadn't looked at them yet, with the exception of checking whether it was Sundy or Bub who was off Akiras but on Cecilys, and I didn't check to see if there were more people. I only called to look at said people, and never neared names, so in the context of the wagons, I can't give you a "this is why I suspect Twisted, bub and crazy" answer.
All I'm doing is promoting discussion, organizing suspects and creating hypotheticals without coming off as aggressive.-
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Read, Parama. I'm saying that you did the same thing that I did, so if AGar suspects me, its like he pulled a name out of a hat. If I said that you were scummy for doing these things, it would imply that I'm scum.Parama wrote:@DH:DemonHybrid wrote:And Parama posted minutes after I did. What is your point?DemonHybrid wrote:But how am I different than someone like Parama, or better yet, someone who didn't vote Akira but voted Cecily?
These are all deflecting suspicion off you onto me, which implies you suspect me, though your reason is non-existent.DemonHybrid wrote:You realize that Parama said the same thing? Why aren't you on his case?
Not once did I say you were scum at any point in the game, nor did I say or imply that you should be lynched. Please read closer.-
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Let me rephrase it:
For example: Parama and I did the same thing. Why isn't he suspect to you as well, AGar? Your reasoning is ludacris if you are voting me just for that, so please look at the people late wagoning Akira and voting Cecily without voting Akira, in this case, Bub.
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So, you are voting me over word choice and not action nor intent?AGar wrote:
Parama didn't latch onto a refusal to vote on D1. He may have guaranteed a scum-flip on Cecily, but he didn't insinuate that come hell or high water he was going to be voting Cecily. You did. THAT is the key point here.DemonHybrid wrote:Let me rephrase it:
For example: Parama and I did the same thing. Why isn't he suspect to you as well, AGar? Your reasoning is ludacris if you are voting me just for that, so please look at the people late wagoning Akira and voting Cecily without voting Akira, in this case, Bub.
Is that better?
The deflection onto Parama, I get what it is. It's a tactic to clear yourself, not throw suspicion onto Parama. Instead you're just making yourself look worse.
Just go easily.
AGar, you're a much better player than this.-
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If Oso is town, look at AGar?
If Oso is scum, you'll cry yourself to sleep?
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I'd say there is definite scum on both Oso's and TS's wagons. I need to do some analysis.-
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Hmm.
RBT, can I get thoughts from you on every player still alive so far?-
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....hmm.
I want my answers from RBT before I think about voting.
Funny how two votes and three active lurking claims come right after I ask her for her opinions.-
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AGar, you also didn't comment on RBTs post until huts now, 6 or so of your posts since RBT posted that. How come?-
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I'm at a complete impasse between RBT and AGar. I don't like AGar's switch in the least, but it's characteristic of Parama to do so of any alignment, in case anyone is wondering why I'm singling AGar out.
Meh. I don't like RBT's answer at all.Vote: Riceballtail
This has been a tough day. Lots of weird play to sort out.-
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As a PS, I'm not going to go and line up suspicion, we'll take things as they go, but as TS pointed out, I don't like RBT's hypocrisy in saying that others have contributed nothing when RBT is very clearly active lurking. I'm just not sure who is genuine about their suspicions on RBT.
I'm willing to bet that someone on the RBT hatewagon at this point is scum. It was a very subtle switch as soon as I asked RBT to give her reads. This is a situation that I DO NOT like.-
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Yeah.Riceballtail wrote:So you don't like my wagon, you think there's scum on it, and you're adding onto it?
1. There's a traitor in this game.
2. Assuming the traitor was picked up, I can't believe you haven't heard of bussing.-
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Basically, I don't have to like your wagon, but I also don't like you alive. They're RIGHT; you have been completely active lurking and dodging play all game. The question is "Who is GENUINE about it?"-
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So, you're saying that you believe there are 3 more mafia? Or do you honestly believe that town would vote and lie about their suspicions, given that it's 3 experienced players voting and other semi-experienced players who suspect you for the same?Riceballtail wrote:
So far, 0/3.DemonHybrid wrote:Basically, I don't have to like your wagon, but I also don't like you alive. They're RIGHT; you have been completely active lurking and dodging play all game. The question is "Who is GENUINE about it?"
That's a rhetorical question by the way. It was a lame conclusion for you to come to.-
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o_oRiceballtail wrote:Sweet, make that 0/4. Your vote is just as bad as the others.
Rice, claim.Someone care to ask for a claim?-
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RBT's not the best scum player.Bub Bidderskins wrote:I am not up for a RBT lynch right now. The fact that she would say such things as "0/4" indicate town to me. Yes, I know it's WIFOM, but scum are never that cheeky when it comes to people who are voting for them.
Here is some meta. She lurks when she's scum.
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Honestly? Do you not even care that you are L-1?Riceballtail wrote:
After you, scumbag.DemonHybrid wrote:Rice, claim.
RBT, if you are town, I'm going to give you some really needed advice after this game is over.-
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Active lurking, weak reads, a ton of OMGUS and a refusal to comply with requests is not a case?Riceballtail wrote:Why would I claim when there is somewhere between zero and none for a case against me?-
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I left for TWENTY MINUTES.Riceballtail wrote:Since DH is going to run and hide like the scumbag he is
Think about how crazy you sound.-
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1. Plenty of content.Riceballtail wrote:
1. Plenty of content, pointing out who I think is scum at any point in time. "Active lurking" and "extremely concise" are two different things.
2. My reads are hardly weak. This is fabrication at best, misrep at most likely.
3. OMGUS? As soon as I called AGar out, he voted me. I'm sure that I'm full of OMGUS.
4. Refusal to comply with someone's request does not make one scum.
As stated, what case?
You currently have the least amount of posts of anyone alive in the game so far. Every post has been a one or two sentence post, with the sentences being extremely minimal in size.
Plenty of content.
...hm.
2. Prove it. I want a paragraph of your reads of everyone alive so far (at least 3 sentences each), complete with one post of evidence to back up your claims. That's NOT a lot to ask.
3. Actually, AGar voted you first.
4. It certainly doesn't help your case.-
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DemonHybrid And Another Thing...
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1. Correct. But it's been decided by all of us that you've posted minimal content and did almost 0% scumhunting.1) Word count and post count have no correlation to content count.
2) I'm _STILL_ not going to give scum a report card.
3) He voted first, but he voted me the post after I called him out.
4) And helping scum find the most town-like people is going to help who exactly?
2. If you hadn't noticed, you're really close to dying. Do you really think it still matters? Why don't you want to stay alive? Convince us that you're a competent scumhunter? Give us information? ANYTHING?
3. He posted like 4 times before he voted you after you called him out o_o
4. It helps you to NOT DIE. If you are town, this is a good thing, because you stay alive to help town. If you are scum, you are doing it WRONG. Either way, you are playing badly.-
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DemonHybrid And Another Thing...
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Yeah, hammer away, please. Despite alignment, either way, RBT is a threat to town in the long run by either being scum or purely anti-town, and it's past the point of where a claim can save her.