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So, apparently it is bad to ask people to post something other than a vote now. >_>
@Empking: So, from what I can see here your performance in our previous game together is your norm then?
I'm scared of votes on another player?Exe wrote:Lol obvscum is scared of votes in RVS. Nice.
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1. I didn't actually ask for reasons, I just mentioned that it was annoying that nobody gave any.CooLDoG wrote:...
@king, why do you need reasons for a random vote? honestly?
2. Reasons are needed to do anything in this game. We will never get out of RVS if people are allowed to just make empty posts with nothing but votes.
3. It wasn't a single vote, it was three votes in a row.
Also, why are you assuming that me and Tag are scum andwhatmakes you think that? Other than how you think it is fine for people to post nothing but votes during RVS I see nothing saying that either of us are scummy.
Oh yeah, "scrutiny of votes is bad" is the reason you gave. And then you say my vote on Exe is scummy because it is OMGUS, without saying why the reason given is irrelevent, something I believe is required in order for a vote to be OMGUS.
Because Empking has done nothing to make him seem at all like a townie.Slaxx wrote:
Pretty vague for the guy who is pushing for reasons for voting.KingTwelveSixteen wrote:
You are insane.Slaxx wrote:And so the fluffy rhetoric begins.
Lets create a bit of controversy. Strongest town read right now is Empking. Opinions?
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So you are saying that your statement of "King screams scum it with his omgus vote and earlier posts, and toogelo defends him? What the fuck is wrong with scum players these days, are they incapable of knowing how to play?" was part of an RVS vote? It clearly was not.CooLDoG wrote:Conclusions from the last 2 posts:
1) if king is scum toogy is too.
2)King doesn't know the meaning of rvs.
@king, what reasons would you consider to be valid for an rvs vote? Are those reasons really that meaningful? And are they more meaningful then not giving reasons at all?
Don't you also think that you are taking what I said to absurd extremes? Remember I gave a clarification stating that there is no pointthisearly in the game.And also are my reasons for voting you any less legitimate (possibly more) then any other reasons in rvs?
Any reason that is obviously random would be a valid RVS vote, and we would get at least a bit of information out of it. Giving no reasons gives absolutely no information, not even any help in determining if somebody is voting for actually thinking somebody is scum or just for RVS.
Absurd extremes? What did I take to any extreme?
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You still havn't given a base for it, or an argument, or evidence. You only gave a fancy picture and an insult.Hiraki wrote:...
Oh yeah.KingTwelveSixteen wrote:I assume you are talking about me with that baseless, evidenceless, argumentless accusation there?
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???Slaxx wrote:Toogeloo I find it funny you are shooting down other reasons for FoSs but not pushing any sort of accusations forward on your own. Its definitely noteworthy.
Nobody has FoSed anyone yet.
Give me a reason why my votes havn't been justified or they arn't OMGUSes.Slaxx wrote:
1000 for the picture+6=1,006.Hiraki wrote:
What do you think about my reasoning?Slaxx wrote:Toogeloo I find it funny you are shooting down other reasons for FoSs but not pushing any sort of accusations forward on your own. Its definitely noteworthy.
The picture has a lot of words in it.
In all seriousness I think King might be OMGUSing.
I'm torn between Toog (for reasons I stated above) and King (for reason stated right above).
NINJA EDIT: ..."Tooo jumpy"? "Conclusive logic"? What?ShowWin-Loss Ratio
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Yeah, this is just an explanation of what an OMGUS is, not a reason why my vote isn't justified. It's also really poorly phrased.Hiraki wrote:
The vote in #24 is an oblivious OMGUS. You're voting someone for accusing you of something(which you are, but that's not the point). If I tell Slaxx that he has a giant bee on his head, he won't vote me because there isn't a bee on his head.King wrote:Give me a reason why my votes havn't been justified
tl;dr: You've taken LaLwayout of proportion and come off as inordinately jumpy, and ready to strike at any time.
Also, what does LaL stand for?
I am slightly suspicious of him. His first post has a "-getslynched" thing that reads as scummy to me, and his lack of any vote, RVS-or-not, is scummy as well.Slaxx wrote:FoS was a loose term King. We obviously suspect(ed) you. Might as well be an FoS. But he defended you and said he didnt want a bandwagon on himself. That has been the content of his posts. He hasn't been offensive at all. What do you think of Toog's behavior King?ShowWin-Loss Ratio
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So um. You admit it was an OMGUS?King wrote:Yeah, this is just an explanation of what an OMGUS is, not a reason why my vote isn't justified. It's also really poorly phrased.
LaL means Lynch all Liars.
How does lynch all liars enter into this at all?
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Lying in order to make a faulty case/vote on somebody is scummy. I have never heard of Lynch-all-Liars being applied to people making faulty arguments before, usually it is used in regard to fake-claims isn't it?ShowWin-Loss Ratio
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@GreyIce: Why is Emp town?
Nobody has given any reason why myactualvotes arn't perfectly fine. You are just saying that because some people were pushing me at the time that I voted my voting is scummy by default. That is ludicrous.
"Easy targets" sounds like you are just saying "people who are acting scummy". Except you blatantly say that Furclaw is the "flaming disaster in the room", and would that not make him the easiest target of all?ShowWin-Loss Ratio
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1: Oh come on. RIGHT THERE you say "CooLDoG wrote:1)King you really know how to misrepresent someone. Once I voted you I was out of rvs, me saying you omgused is my reasons to get out of rvs voting and vote for you.
2)So building up a wagon with more then a "random" ammount of players is bad. Because their reasons aren't truly random. And how do you know that those people didn't roll the dice at home and come up with your number?
3)What useful information will you gain from rvs reasons?
4)and, Could you determine soly of off rvs vote reasons if someone is scum or town? As you imply.
5)Absurd extremes= when I say you can't scrutinize a vote "this early in the game" and you come back and say, hay you are the guy who doesn't want to look at votes!
...are my reasons for voting you any less legitimate (possibly more) thenclearly stating that your vote is an RVS vote.any other reasons in rvs?"
2: ? Since when was I angry with the RVS votes on me? I'm mad at the people voting not using RVS because the reasons they have given are bad.
3: Already stated right in the post you quoted that you learn FO SURE that the vote is an RVS vote, it also lets scum have a chance to totally mess up when making 'em, which is always good.
4: You could get some reads from RVS, yes. Several people have stated reads they gained from RVS since you made your post in fact.
5: Phrasing is wierd here...You say we can't scrutinize votes this early then you scrutinize my vote. This point is obvious.
A post made by somebody else who you arn't sure is scum or town made you sure thatTheLonging wrote:...
In fact this makes me sure that King is scum, but as far as Toogeloo? Will have to see on the next pages. He almost seems like his town self but something is throwing me off."
...Iwas scum? How?
Also, if you aresureI am scum, like you sayright there,then why am I un-italicised in the list at the bottom of this post, hmmmm?
I wasn't trying to get out of RVS, I was being annoyed and a bit concerned that three people had parroted my vote on Toog and hadn't even given a crazy RVS reasoning for it. I was trying to get people to give reasons so that RVS would be left naturally or however you say it.TheLonging wrote:...
2. You got us out of RVS by asking for reasoning sure. But did you know that most games with RVS actually can slowly come out of RVS after a couple pages? I was in a game where RVS went on for 10 pages (15 posts = 1 page btw on another forum) before someone slowly chipped away at someone by doing the most insane shit. I'm rambling, you got me rambling, reasons aren't needed to do anything in RVS (hence why I hate it)
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At least two people were saying I was scum because I was afraid of people's votes or of bandwagons or something like that. Probobly more like 3-4 people but I don't feel like looking back specifically to find that.TheLonging wrote:...
I don't get it. We weren't calling him scum because he was afraid of votes? Also even if he had a vote on you it's because unvoting would, y'know, make him look worse and Day 1 would already be over. You have a null read but keep blatantly defending him over something that looked REALLY scummy, what does that look like?
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No, but the term "OH EMM GEEE. U SUCKKKKKKKKK" is an insult.TheLonging wrote:...
Is the term OMGUS really an insult now? How long have I been away from here?
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Well, bobsnox has just responded to somebody catching a scumslip by saying that it wasbaitand then he stopped posting...
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Dude, I just quoted where you said that it was an RVS vote in my previous post about you. I am saying thatCooLDoG wrote:also at king, my vote wasn't an rvs vote. You don't seem to get that.youare the one who originally made a wierd claim about it being RVS, when it clearly wasn't.ShowWin-Loss Ratio
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Got ninja'd a bunch making this.Slaxx wrote:Fucking awesome.
Vote: Shattered Viewpoint
Analysis of players to come later tonight.
Two votes on people you have a neutral on, the first one with no justification?Slaxx wrote:Unvote, Vote King
Good start of the day bandwagon, and Grey makes a good point.
This is meta-stuff, isn't it?TheLonging wrote:Toog is scum but Furcolow DID NOT replace out and he is still here.
vote: furcolow
I'm going to pressure this scum.
Bit over-defensive there Toog.Toogeloo wrote:...
You people can go to hell ^_^.
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Why you wanna kill a possible vig?Hiraki wrote:
NO. I'M KILLING WHOEVER DID THIS.Parama wrote:Exe, Gang Member, brutally pitchforked Night 1.
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Like promised,Vote: King
When did you promise that?
I object.Hiraki wrote:...
King needs to die first anyway. No objections are allowed.
Underlined is stuff bad about this post.Hiraki wrote:...
Still the first statement still stands.You're thinking about this way too hard, and defending King way too hard.
I think one of you is required to die today.
Toog wrote:This looks like distancing damage control to me.Toog, Toog, Toog. You're annoying me.
You realize that even amafia maestro as myselfhad Exe as town, before he did the quickhammer correct?I guess I'm scum as well?
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So, thats the reason you voted him at the start of the day then?Slaxx wrote:OHAI TOOG NICE OF YOU TO JOIN US
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Hiraki wrote:You're saying that like it isn't plausible.
Not to mention, that's RVS and should not be taken into account. You're just screwing with what scum was thinking.You don't want to think on things on how confirmed scum was thinking.
Exe is the confirmed scum Hiraki says Toog needs to think about. The second post is two posts away from the first after Toog explains what the thinking stuff was about.Hiraki wrote:First off, why are you over-reacting.
Second off,why are you caring about Exe this much?
Third off, why are you defending King this much?I also don't like the over-reacting part but that may just be because Toog is defending me and stuff.
...Then why does not replacing out make Furclaw scum?TheLonging wrote:
The simplest explanation is to not vote for you or King?Toogeloo wrote:
Occam's Razor for now. There is zero grounds to lynch King today imo.Hiraki wrote:Still the first statement still stands. You're thinking about this way too hard, and defending King way too hard.
Makes Grey look worse to me as well since His vote is for King, even after stating wanting to follow through on CooLDoG and Furculow yesterday.
what?
also king it can't be meta I didn't mention any meta
Sarcasm is a great excuse for scummy things, isn't it? And how isHiraki wrote:...
YOU ARE TAKING MY SARCASM TOO SERIOUSLY.
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Are you calling him unreasonable in any way shape or form?
...allof the stuff I underlined sarcasm? That doesn't make much sense.
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K.TheLonging wrote:King, I bring it up becauze he was inactive, posted twice which were scummy posts, AND he was an inactive who stayed in. I don't play the meta game, and I never even played a game with him.
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Aw, come on!
Stupid computer dumped my post, whatever.
Vote: Furcolow
For all those reasons listed and like 4 more I would have pointed out about the first post but I'm annoyed right now so.
He put Exe as leaning town, even though he flipped scum seems like the biggest thingy to me.ShowWin-Loss Ratio
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The town read on Exe was posted after Exe flipped scum, not before. Try reading before you pointlessly insult someone.Hiraki wrote:
YOU FUCKING IDIOT.KingTwelveSixteen wrote:That has nothing to do with claiming a town read on somebody who has flipped scum Hiraki.
Like literally nothing.
WATCH THIS.
YOU CAN'T TRUST A TOWN READ ON SOMEONE WHO WASN'T SCUMMY UNTIL HE QUICKHAMMERED. HIS FIRST VOTE WASN'T BAD, IT WAS JUST A GOOD BW. BASICALLY, EXE IS NULL UNTIL HE GETS TO THE QUICKHAMMER PART. CALLING HIM SCUMMY AND/OR TOWNIE HAS NO APPLICABLE REASONING BECAUSE THERE IS NO REASON TO CALL HIM TOWN/SCUM AT THAT TIME. HE WAS NULL.ShowWin-Loss Ratio
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CooLDoG wrote:...
@king, quote my post sayingexplicitlythat my vote on you is rvs. And I mean my words=I voted for king for rvs reasons.
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Tempted to vote king for lieing about my rvs vote, andjoining the band wagon. But, I want furc to post before I change my vote.
Right there you say your vote was in RVS.CooLDoG wrote:Conclusions from the last 2 posts:
1) if king is scum toogy is too.
2)King doesn't know the meaning of rvs.
@king, what reasons would you consider to be valid for an rvs vote? Are those reasons really that meaningful? And are they more meaningful then not giving reasons at all?
Don't you also think that you are taking what I said to absurd extremes? Remember I gave a clarification stating that there is no pointthisearly in the game. And also are my reasons for voting you any less legitimate (possibly more) thenany other reasons in rvs?
Joining a bandwagon means someone is scum?Hiraki wrote:Unvote, Vote: King
I switched twice, the joke is not funny, and I am crying now. APOLOGIZE.
What.Hiraki wrote:Sorry I'm scum, so I have to go for the easy lynch.
Sure.Slaxx wrote:unvote, vote: kinganswer my question king >.>
No. It was gut.Slaxx wrote:Wanna try again or no
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Lets imagine the context of this post. Exescum knows bob is going to flip town. What better idea to "bus"and then when bob flips town, have a way to call him town.my scumpartner
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...Did you even actually read that post? I mean seriously here.Furcolow wrote:
BLATANT OMGUS, even admits to not having reasons of his own... so he is sheeping on topKingTwelveSixteen wrote:Aw, come on!
Stupid computer dumped my post, whatever.
Vote: Furcolow
For all those reasons listed and like 4 more I would have pointed out about the first post but I'm annoyed right now so.
He put Exe as leaning town, even though he flipped scum seems like the biggest thingy to me.
Not to mention all the horrible problems with the rest of your post like personal insults and declaring that everyone who is voting you is just OMGUSing.
Laziness is not a town tell.tclawren wrote:@LLD: I like the way he's letting us into his mind while his opinion is being changed. It shows me that he was writing this while reading and didn't really go back to edit it to make it sound more "consistent." Scum tend to be much more careful about their usage of phrases and posts. In other words I think the structure of this post are a town tell.ShowWin-Loss Ratio
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Read the underlined a bolded part again.CooLDoG wrote:
But you see buddy that isn't me saying its an rvs vote. That's me asking: "How is my vote on you any less valid then an rvs vote" II gave a legitimate reason for my vote when I voted it. My reason was omgus + gutish.KingTwelveSixteen wrote:CooLDoG wrote:...
@king, quote my post sayingexplicitlythat my vote on you is rvs. And I mean my words=I voted for king for rvs reasons.
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Tempted to vote king for lieing about my rvs vote, andjoining the band wagon. But, I want furc to post before I change my vote.
Right there you say your vote was in RVS.CooLDoG wrote:Conclusions from the last 2 posts:
1) if king is scum toogy is too.
2)King doesn't know the meaning of rvs.
@king, what reasons would you consider to be valid for an rvs vote? Are those reasons really that meaningful? And are they more meaningful then not giving reasons at all?
Don't you also think that you are taking what I said to absurd extremes? Remember I gave a clarification stating that there is no pointthisearly in the game. And also are my reasons for voting you any less legitimate (possibly more) thenany other reasons in rvs?unvote, vote:kingI can't stand people like you.
Pay special attention to the word "other."
Other implies correlation.
Correlation and connection between your vote and the RVS votes.
If your vote was completely seperate from the RVS votes then the phrase would have been: "any of the RVS reasons" "any of the reasons in RVS" ect.
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I was just re-reading and I noticed that Hiraki claimed I was both OMGUSing and using Lynch-all-Liars simultaneously.Hiraki wrote:
The vote in #24 is an oblivious OMGUS. You're voting someone for accusing you of something(which you are, but that's not the point). If I tell Slaxx that he has a giant bee on his head, he won't vote me because there isn't a bee on his head.King wrote:Give me a reason why my votes havn't been justified
tl;dr: You've taken LaLwayout of proportion and come off as inordinately jumpy, and ready to strike at any time.
OMGUS is voting whoever voted you with no other reasoning for said vote.
LaL is voting due to the reasoning of lying.
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You clearly haven't read the post if you think it says that.Furcolow wrote:...
Yes, I "actually read that post"KingTwelveSixteen wrote:
...Did you even actually read that post? I mean seriously here.Furcolow wrote:
BLATANT OMGUS, even admits to not having reasons of his own... so he is sheeping on topKingTwelveSixteen wrote:Aw, come on!
Stupid computer dumped my post, whatever.
Vote: Furcolow
For all those reasons listed and like 4 more I would have pointed out about the first post but I'm annoyed right now so.
He put Exe as leaning town, even though he flipped scum seems like the biggest thingy to me.
Not to mention all the horrible problems with the rest of your post like personal insults and declaring that everyone who is voting you is just OMGUSing.
What King has said is "I'm voting Furcolow because of the 4 other reasons people stated" plus he isn't willing to admit he just wants to survive.
You know what? I am. I am voting King not only because I believe he's scum, but because I want to survive for the town. Don't like it? Get over it.
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Got some reasoning behind why I am "just trying to survive" there? Oh yeah, and you cannot both be voting me just because you want to survive and because you think I am scum.
Stop with the personal insults.
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Yes, it looks that way in one post, but in my original post I gave a specific reason for voting you that was non-rvs related. What you are doing is basing your accusations off of a vote without actually reading the post where I made the vote. My vote stays. I'm not gonna change it very soon.
You do realise my entire accusation about this point is based around you trying to weasel out of your statement that your vote was an RVS vote when it clearly wasn't, right?
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That is aCooLDoG wrote:I'm really sorry for my post. It's just that king is making me so angry.
@king, okay I was unclear in that post, mind quoting the post where I actually voted you? I think you should refer to that first.Because you said that that was an rvs vote.
@sk/vig, kill king tonight plz and thx., I said no such thing. This goes against the entirety of my argument with CooLDoG as well, since the very basis of it is that CooLDoG himself claimed the vote was an RVS vote, when it clearly was not.Bold-faced Lie
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That is an impossible request and you know it.Hiraki wrote:...
How about you prove Kingtown, and I'll stop advocating the lynch? That sounds better.
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Why don't you try and give an argument for me being scum in order to convince others to vote me? I'm pretty sure thatyou, specifically, have already been asked to do it already.
Would it have been somehow more convincing if I said I was a Citizen, full of revenge and wanting to kill scum?Pine wrote:@Tajo: Ehhh. In LyLo, maybe. Otherwise, if I could afford to, I'd let them live a night or so to give the scum a shot at them and save us a mislynch. But I've seen some pretty damn convincing VT claims, and plain, simple "I'm a VT" isn't among them.
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Strawman argument.CooLDoG wrote:...
uhh hello! king, I can't understand what your point is. Lets just set this strait once and for all. I voted for you for real reasons. Why are you attacking me on that?
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I specified in the very last post about this, that wasquoted right there in that post even, that this argument is - and always has been - about CooLDoG's claim (which was also quoted right there) that his vote was RVS when it clearly wasn't.
And trying to misrep my post where I point out where HE said it into saying that I was stating it is just stupid.
Stop the strawmanning. No way you are doing this accidentally. Never claimed the vote was RVS, never will. This whole thing is about CooLDoG saying it was RVS when it clearly wasn't.
As should be obvious.
(NOTE: SINCE IT IS NEVER OBVIOUS HERE ARE SOME QUOTES)KingTwelveSixteen wrote:
So you are saying that your statement of "King screams scum it with his omgus vote and earlier posts, and toogelo defends him? What the fuck is wrong with scum players these days, are they incapable of knowing how to play?"CooLDoG wrote:Conclusions from the last 2 posts:
1) if king is scum toogy is too.
2)King doesn't know the meaning of rvs.
@king, what reasons would you consider to be valid for an rvs vote? Are those reasons really that meaningful? And are they more meaningful then not giving reasons at all?
Don't you also think that you are taking what I said to absurd extremes? Remember I gave a clarification stating that there is no pointthisearly in the game.And also are my reasons for voting you any less legitimate (possibly more) then any other reasons in rvs?was part of an RVS vote? It clearly was not.
Any reason that is obviously random would be a valid RVS vote, and we would get at least a bit of information out of it. Giving no reasons gives absolutely no information, not even any help in determining if somebody is voting for actually thinking somebody is scum or just for RVS.
Absurd extremes? What did I take to any extreme?
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Vote: CooLDoGKingTwelveSixteen wrote:
1: Oh come on. RIGHT THERE you say "CooLDoG wrote:1)King you really know how to misrepresent someone. Once I voted you I was out of rvs, me saying you omgused is my reasons to get out of rvs voting and vote for you.
2)So building up a wagon with more then a "random" ammount of players is bad. Because their reasons aren't truly random. And how do you know that those people didn't roll the dice at home and come up with your number?
3)What useful information will you gain from rvs reasons?
4)and, Could you determine soly of off rvs vote reasons if someone is scum or town? As you imply.
5)Absurd extremes= when I say you can't scrutinize a vote "this early in the game" and you come back and say, hay you are the guy who doesn't want to look at votes!
...are my reasons for voting you any less legitimate (possibly more) thenclearly stating that your vote is an RVS vote.any other reasons in rvs?"
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Dude, I just quoted where you said that it was an RVS vote in my previous post about you. I am saying thatCooLDoG wrote:also at king, my vote wasn't an rvs vote. You don't seem to get that.youare the one who originally made a wierd claim about it being RVS, when it clearly wasn't.KingTwelveSixteen wrote:I just remembered that Cooldog never explained why he tried to say his vote on me was RVS when it wasn't.Unvote
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Every other post about it you've misdirected, strawmanned, and did everything possible to deny that you ever stated it was an RVS vote. Those are scum tactics.CooLDoG wrote:...
@king, so whats your point? Is it that in one post I said my vote wasn't rvs but in every other post about it I said it was a real vote? How does that make me scum?My vote was real. End of story.
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Saying a vote that wasn't an RVS vote is one is also scummy.
Using scum tactics to keep people from noticing something scummy you've done is scummy.
Oh yeah, and your main reason for voting me is this whole argument as well. Its kind of a bad thing when your reason for voting someone is crap.
Underlined part is once again trying to misrep/strawman the argument into something else. Only person who said CooLDoG's vote was RVS is CooLDoG.ShowWin-Loss Ratio
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BLUH THESE POSTS SHOULD ONLY BE ONE POST
Really? Furc is town?Toogeloo wrote:But it opens the door for one vote for King or one unvote for Furc to change the lynch. Scum wouldn't take a 2 vote padding and change it to a 1 vote difference.
I still say both Furc and King are town, especially given activity levels.
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*coughcopcough*Pine wrote:...
And why would that be, LLD? The only thing in that post that was in any way new was the mild suspicion expressed against you, and to be perfectly frank, anyone who doesn't have at least mild suspicion ofeveryoneelse iseither scum or a Mason.And your interactions with Furc and your fervent pushing of his lynchwouldbe among the most valuable to analyze in light of his flip.
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Furcolow wrote:
Are you willing to stick your neck on the chopping block for my lynch? Since it will give you "so much information", tell me, what information would you get if I flippedLady Lambdadelta wrote:GreyICE wrote:
You're strongly for Furcolow scum?Lady Lambdadelta wrote:I wouldn't lose sleep over a King vig-shot.
I think Furc needs rope badly.
It is my ONLY strong read at the moment.
Everything else has been muddled by Bob flipping town.
But I'm confident that when Furc flips scum, my reads will clarify themselves.?blue
Honestly, you won't get shit. You won't put your neck out there, and even if you claim you will, you will say "oops" and people will generally be like "all is forgiven" and not lynch you regardless.
If you are town, you are improperly tunneling, and I ask you to stop. Consider the fact that you STARTED tunneling AFTER I stated I had a scumread on you. Thanks.ShowWin-Loss Ratio
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What my emoticon post was trying to say is that blue is the third-party color, not the town color.
I think he just third-party-slipped. I'm betting SK 'cause of the NK stuff.
Oh, incidentally, Furcolow is at 4 votes right now, and 7 are required to fully lynch him, so it will take a couple more votes before he gets hammered.
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And now he's at 5.
Cut it out with the weird mis-countings/gambits about this stuff.ShowWin-Loss Ratio
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...Well, there is thatGreyICE wrote:Seriously.
Scum don't just build cases by highlighting actions of players that are scummy. They tend to 'explain' to the town why the townie's actions are scummy. Here he just calls things out, and watches people's reactions.
He's been consistent in his targets. He's fishing for scummy reactions. He follows up. He's been honest in his play. Fuck, I thought Furcolow was scum until that AMAZING L-1 vote. And Bob was a pressure wagon that caught us scum in any case (Exe got shot).
P.S. What sort of Serial Killer shoots Exe?mystery mechanic.
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...You decided not to post in the thread because of lightning?CooLDoG wrote:shit, I forgot to post v/la in here.
v/la for the rest of today and tomorrow, thus I will be back on Tuesday morning
Something of interest just happened. I looked at the clock to see if I had enough time to read over the few new pages that I hadn't read. At the very instant that I pressed the button (open this link in new tab) a thunder struck (Correct verbiage?) that rattled the windows. Thus, because this can be nothing but a bad omen, I will not be posting about the pages that I haven't read.ShowWin-Loss Ratio
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Honestly, the only reason I haven't voted CooLDoG today yet is because people in this game apparently can't stop themselves from quicklynching.Lady Lambdadelta wrote:@TL: Replace King with TC and drop Toog, and I'll agree with you.
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Yo, here is my case on CooLDoG.
Keep forgetting it every time we go to a new day.
...Maybe leave myself a note or something.KingTwelveSixteen wrote:
Strawman argument.CooLDoG wrote:...
uhh hello! king, I can't understand what your point is. Lets just set this strait once and for all. I voted for you for real reasons. Why are you attacking me on that?
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I specified in the very last post about this, that wasquoted right there in that post even, that this argument is - and always has been - about CooLDoG's claim (which was also quoted right there) that his vote was RVS when it clearly wasn't.
And trying to misrep my post where I point out where HE said it into saying that I was stating it is just stupid.
Stop the strawmanning. No way you are doing this accidentally. Never claimed the vote was RVS, never will. This whole thing is about CooLDoG saying it was RVS when it clearly wasn't.
As should be obvious.
(NOTE: SINCE IT IS NEVER OBVIOUS HERE ARE SOME QUOTES)KingTwelveSixteen wrote:
So you are saying that your statement of "King screams scum it with his omgus vote and earlier posts, and toogelo defends him? What the fuck is wrong with scum players these days, are they incapable of knowing how to play?"CooLDoG wrote:Conclusions from the last 2 posts:
1) if king is scum toogy is too.
2)King doesn't know the meaning of rvs.
@king, what reasons would you consider to be valid for an rvs vote? Are those reasons really that meaningful? And are they more meaningful then not giving reasons at all?
Don't you also think that you are taking what I said to absurd extremes? Remember I gave a clarification stating that there is no pointthisearly in the game.And also are my reasons for voting you any less legitimate (possibly more) then any other reasons in rvs?was part of an RVS vote? It clearly was not.
Any reason that is obviously random would be a valid RVS vote, and we would get at least a bit of information out of it. Giving no reasons gives absolutely no information, not even any help in determining if somebody is voting for actually thinking somebody is scum or just for RVS.
Absurd extremes? What did I take to any extreme?
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Vote: CooLDoGKingTwelveSixteen wrote:
1: Oh come on. RIGHT THERE you say "CooLDoG wrote:1)King you really know how to misrepresent someone. Once I voted you I was out of rvs, me saying you omgused is my reasons to get out of rvs voting and vote for you.
2)So building up a wagon with more then a "random" ammount of players is bad. Because their reasons aren't truly random. And how do you know that those people didn't roll the dice at home and come up with your number?
3)What useful information will you gain from rvs reasons?
4)and, Could you determine soly of off rvs vote reasons if someone is scum or town? As you imply.
5)Absurd extremes= when I say you can't scrutinize a vote "this early in the game" and you come back and say, hay you are the guy who doesn't want to look at votes!
...are my reasons for voting you any less legitimate (possibly more) thenclearly stating that your vote is an RVS vote.any other reasons in rvs?"
...KingTwelveSixteen wrote:
Dude, I just quoted where you said that it was an RVS vote in my previous post about you. I am saying thatCooLDoG wrote:also at king, my vote wasn't an rvs vote. You don't seem to get that.youare the one who originally made a wierd claim about it being RVS, when it clearly wasn't.KingTwelveSixteen wrote:I just remembered that Cooldog never explained why he tried to say his vote on me was RVS when it wasn't.Unvote
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Every other post about it you've misdirected, strawmanned, and did everything possible to deny that you ever stated it was an RVS vote. Those are scum tactics.CooLDoG wrote:...
@king, so whats your point? Is it that in one post I said my vote wasn't rvs but in every other post about it I said it was a real vote? How does that make me scum?My vote was real. End of story.
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Saying a vote that wasn't an RVS vote is one is also scummy.
Using scum tactics to keep people from noticing something scummy you've done is scummy.
Oh yeah, and your main reason for voting me is this whole argument as well. Its kind of a bad thing when your reason for voting someone is crap.
Underlined part is once again trying to misrep/strawman the argument into something else. Only person who said CooLDoG's vote was RVS is CooLDoG.KingTwelveSixteen wrote:CooLDoG wrote:...
@king, I fail to see how what I'm saying is scummy. Based off of the reasons you have given.
...Really?
I meanReally?ShowWin-Loss Ratio
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Bah, I bet the second I put him at L-1 he's gonna get quickhammered by someone.Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Dude, that post is missing a vote.
Also, answer to case against you CooLDoG?ShowWin-Loss Ratio
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