130.Mirror Mafia - Game Over

[Twistedspoon]

confirmé

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wtf did miller just say?

[Twistedspoon]

playing at the mafia?

That makes zilch sense but the implications are awful

anyways, This is the mod's call. In the words of the beatles 'let it be'

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@Acro: That site is mafiascum heresy. Never again. Also, Hider is a town role too

anyways

VOTE: Bubfor the Great fishbowl disaster

[Twistedspoon]

@evil: any reason why you're claiming so early?

Random voting, lurking nonsense is not for me.
1. Your boss comes out with an important project and gives it to you. It is extremely hard, but if you complete it by yourself, you get all the praise and a raise. Do you work alone, or gather a small group to work with you?

2. You begin playing a new strategy game you have never played before. You are going to play this game with your friend in 3 days for an unknown prize. Do you study yourself, or use a computer to assist you in mastering it?

3. You are tired and walking home one day when someone hops off their bike and leaves it unlocked to quickly buy some groceries. Do you steal the bike and ride home?

4. 2+2= ?

I'll play along

1) Alone unless a friend is a specialist
2) Computer
3) No
4) 4?

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thor, just interested, but is your vote on me a random one?
if not, what's the non-wifom reason again?
my reaction was normal as obvtown pacman pointed out

However you're voting Twistedspoon for having the exact same thought I had when CJMiller said "at the"

because, town or third party, he's not a d1 lynch

well third party are inherantly anti-town, so you should try to lynch a player you think is confirmed townie :/

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wow i messed up my words there xp

i got confused. I was trying to say that you should lynch a player you think is third-party, which you did think of pac

but yeah, my point was why didn't you vote him if you thought he was third party. I'm tired and have no idea why that confirmed townie thing is there :/

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i should really preview my posts

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fair enough

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but hang on a sec

It was a scummy move of trying to setup an easy lynch Day 1.

If i was trying to do that I would have voted him

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well surely it would have been a better vote had i suspected him, than a random vote on bub, no?

the wifom is that town wouldn't have had the same reaction i had. but nevermind that i guess.
I'll just accept your vote, move on, and try to scumhunt

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well surely it would have been a better vote had i suspected him, than a random vote on bub, no?

Well, if you have to ask - since you brought it up and seemed to have issue with it, why didn't you vote for him? Why bring it up if it wasn't a viable tell to you?

I didn't vote him because it wasn't a 'viable tell' as you put it

the game wasn't scrambled so i had no reason to suspect that player or anyone else of being mafioso

hence I put a random vote on Bub

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well when he didn't vote someone he thought wasn't town, I thought that was odd

then the votes started to pile on him and i think Flinter put it quite well with

He's the easiest target. And scum jumps on eagerly.

So on the one hand is lack of a vote and explanations is scummy whilst the speed of the wagon is disturbing on the other hand

Thus, i have Arcy as a null/town read at the moment

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1. Your boss comes out with an important project and gives it to you. It is extremely hard, but if you complete it by yourself, you get all the praise and a raise. Do you work alone, or gather a small group to work with you?

2. You begin playing a new strategy game you have never played before. You are going to play this game with your friend in 3 days for an unknown prize. Do you study yourself, or use a computer to assist you in mastering it?

3. You are tired and walking home one day when someone hops off their bike and leaves it unlocked to quickly buy some groceries. Do you steal the bike and ride home?

4. 2+2= ?

1. Unless I have someone who is very good at it, or I am very terrible at it, I work alone.
2. Weird Question. Is using a computer not allowed, or what?
3. No, of course not. Bikes are just as tiring as walking.
4.2 + 2 = 6.2

nothing else to post regarding the last 3 pages of the game?

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Buddying up with the player that several people are calling town plus ignoring a lot of useful information to talk about whether or not I'm gonna be lynched today which is extremely moot currently.

If you want more evidence for your Bub buddying thor case, he sheeped Thor's vote on me i guess

anyways, I prefer this to an Arc vote right now
I'll re-read Nocmen soon though

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I mean, I understand the point of it but I will choose not to partake in it until I actually have a case against someone and so far I do not.

Any town motivation why you don't want to take part in the RVS or would you rather just hope it passes you by as scum always do?

VOTE: Cecily

not going to let you go under the radar here. You'll be in the RVS whether you like it or not

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Quick reads...
-Furc's town.

okay

and you git this from Furc's posts I assume

his first is confirming
his second is pointing out a hydra
His third is a question to the mod
His fourth just says he'll catch up
and his Fifth is a lamentation for the RVS, the explanation of the Survivor role and his approval for 2 wagons

how did you come to the conclusion that Furc is town from these posts?

(I'm just using Furc as an example here)

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Also, you of ALL people should know asking me to explain my reads is NOT a good idea.

I don't, and I'm asking

[Twistedspoon]

Boils down to three reasons.
1: I'm long-winded. My title's "Unabridged" for a reason.
2: I'm a bit nonsensical. My train of thought is highly unusual quite the number of times.
3: Nacho's going to be in control (since I don't have enough confidence in myself--his reads last game MASSACRED mine), and I don't want to push too hard without feedback from him.

well let's hear your explanation and we'll cross the nacho bridge when we get to it

and if it's nonsensical then why did you say furc (among others) were obvtown

[Twistedspoon]

vote twisted for wanting reasons? Sure, It's original

anyways, hit me with the nonsense

[Twistedspoon]

eh, that makes sense so far

I'll wait for nacho if you want then.

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Do not make the mistake of thinking that just because my vote is not out there does not mean I am not reading through and thinking about things. So far though, there is very little to think about.

what the-

It's RVS

RANDOM voting stage

you don't need to think to have a vote :/

I want everyone that's not Ion and Bub to answer this.

Buy or sell: If Bub is town, Ion is scum.

not really definate for me as of yet

^^^feel free to ask me about any of those

Why does Furc get a town read?

I asked calcifer the same question :/
still waiting

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I agree at this point with a pine wagon, because not only his lack of posting here, but his excessive posting in other threads. After saying that he was watching 30 rock he proceeded to post 15 times in other places showing he did actually have the attention for posting. Scum pine hides from questions with indications that he'll be back later and yet never returns.

You might as well vote for thelurkalope if you want to get on pine for excessive posting in other threads beside this one.

Sorry, if you look at my other games, I rarely like posting in the first couple pages, I find most reads you gain from the first couple pages are usually just misunderstandings, so I don't have many reads early in the game.

sounds similar to the cecily reason to me :/

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Also, I'm not a big typer. Being new to ms, I should let you know that off the bat. This is as long as my posts get.

okay

seeing as this is your first post since your RVS vote, care to share some of your thoughts and reads with us?

what are the 3 scummiest things you've seen so far?

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picked up a PM will post more detailed soon

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upon recaping it seems the cecily wagon has grown

Interestingly my vote appeared to have started the wagon

Sorry, if you look at my other games, I rarely like posting in the first couple pages,

well It's the 11th now and you've still had ~0 content

I want reads from Jakalope please

I, personally, am not opposed to a Cecily lynch.

-Twisted's convinced me Cecily's town.

what happened here?

I'm going to look over the Gollum case now

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@Ion and Jackalope: I've hardly heard from you, can you give us your reads and 3 scummiest things you've read so far please

[Twistedspoon]

The nocmen case of calcifer's does satisfy me. The hider part is convincing enough

I wasn't going to vote him anyways though

[Twistedspoon]

Is this all Mastin or Nacho?

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prodded; will post soon

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VOTE: Zdenek

will elaborate shortly, but this is the best lynch

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Zdenek is a mason with me.

Now unvote and vote Gollum.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Gollum

:0

VOTE: Gollum

[Twistedspoon]

oh noes
UNVOTE: Gollum

[Twistedspoon]

what is this i don't even-

those are awful vig kills. Last time I played vig I shot scum and an SK.

I'd vote Gollum but I want him to explain first. That's how nice I am

Gollum SK anyone?

P-Edit: Actually, forget that. My votes doing nothing atm

VOTE: Gollum

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Vote: gollum
Vote: gollum
Vote: gollum
Vote: gollum

4 votes yet no bolding :/

going to read the breadcrumbing case in a second

@flinter: what do you mean by my past history? I'm sure we played in masons and monks together :p

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did pappums in anyone breadcrumb who he was going to hide behind?

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you're claiming on L-8?

eh, I suppose it helps

the thor business seems odd. Jack of all trades? Thor can explain

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Pine's got at least one of Thor's results correct.

so what did thor do to you then? :/

[Twistedspoon]

A Hider usually dies when hiding behind scum.

you mean the hider could be roleblocked?

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I think I know what it means, exactly. But I'd really prefer Nacho's input on this matter. It's, uh, complicated.

...

how so?

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I stand by my Acro and Twistedspoon reads and am still suspicious of evilpacman.

what nonsense is this?

pedit: ninja'd ¬_¬

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so why aren't you voting one of your obv scum reads?

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I'm not liking how TwistedSpoon has jumped on me as soon as Pine did either.

uh, did I vote for you?

nope

then I hardly see why that is the case

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Haylen is town. I'll make a more serious post tomorrow explaining why, but she's just dropped the Haylen tell.

<3[/quote]ans why wouldn't Haylen want to do that as scum?

[Twistedspoon]

aww

I was looking forwards

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Vote Count?

Thoughts on the wagons Ct?

Unvote, Vote: Pine

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voting the player who confirmed your townieness seems unusual.
anyways, what's this haylen town-tell you found?

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voting the player who confirmed your townieness seems unusual.

Why? Just because someone confirms me as town doesn't automatically make them town.

because If they are scum you no-longer become confirmed town

trusting confirmed scum is the last thing we want to do.

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that being said, It certainly doesn't excuse sir Pine. His claim would have been easy enough to fake anyways as scum

VOTE: Pine

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^that's why I said wagons ¬_¬

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VOTE: Ctorj

please....
post something D:

[Twistedspoon]

wait what is a neighbourizer?

and how often do they get to... neighbourise?

and why were you so reluctant to claim it :/

[Twistedspoon]

how often?
what benefit does this role have?
and why would this info help scum? :/

[Twistedspoon]

this game melts my mind

I don't understand mirrors or whatever thor's saying...

but I do now ctorj doesn't deserve to live until the endgame

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TS won't get any more obvious. The first sentence is a standard tell which shows he is out of wagons he can savely move on to.

I don't understand flinter. we didn't discuss this in the scum QT together.
or is this that bussing thing you were telling me about?

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prod recieved
i thought the day was finished for some reason

anyways, i'm still liking a ctorj lynch
pine second maybe

[Twistedspoon]

*still wants a ctorj lynch*
pine and thor are unispiring choices

[Twistedspoon]

wow, 3 unexpected flips right there

I think some scum will have been on the thor wagon. Maybe one from each. not sure

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wow, 3 unexpected flips right there

I think some scum will have been on the thor wagon. Maybe one from each. not sure

You know who wasn't on that last scum-wagon? YOU!

vote: Twistedspoon

Let's win this game already.

yeah, I was on yours

Omgus much?

anyways, I'm going to trust Calcifer. He said he saw a Haylen townslip. I want him to elaborate on it though if he can

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ctorj, why would I defend an SK? It hardly helps me whatever my alignment is?

I never defended Thor anyways.

VOTE: Ctorj

[Twistedspoon]

this wagon is better than pine

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actually, I am surprisingly willing to hammer

not just yet though

I want to hear from my top town read of Calcifer first though. Furc might have something interesting to say too
I find it interesting that Flinter who was a big critic of mine was scum. I had a town read on her but whatever. That's done now

not sure how useful NK analysis would be in this game. In most games it's Wifom and that's even more unreliable with dual scum factions. Still, VCA ight be useful

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right

so it looks like we're dealing with more than 3 scum each side now :/
shame, I thought we had one down after that flip

I'm cool with pine. He's probtown with his town modesty

as for the NKs Calcifer seems and obvious choice for either scum faction, but Furc seems odd. He didn't even post yesterday
I might Iso him if I have time

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You would of been lynched day 3 dude. Listen, it doesn't matter who gets credit for this, we just need to lynch the scum.

agreed

Why do you think someone killed furc?

It would have had to be from the early parts of the game. I mean he didn't even turn up yesterday. Scum either had a very good reason (to frame someone or get furc off of their case) or scum is a VI :/

I'm probably still alive because I'm an easy mislynch

I can agree with this

just don't ride to the endgame on that excuse though. If you are scum you've tricked us all with your town modesty

Track scum again tonight and then they'll regret leaving you alive as myslynch fodder

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hey hey

I like Pine's thinking

VOTE: Bub

sorry Bub, But I let you slip under my radar last time and remember what happened :p

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the only case I'm seeing on pine is that he's a tracker and one scum faction had a tracker, or is there something else?

tbh, I can see a town tracker too just to cause this kind of situation where we're expected not to believe them in light of a scum tracker flip

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pine and Nocmen are town
I can easily see a town tracker in this to add confusion between the town
Hohum's probtown too actually. I can see some town v town here and both Pine and Hohum were probably left alive by the scum factions just for the conflicts they create against each other. Easy to see why scum might leave them alive

That leaves ctorj, Bub, ML and BL remaining to be the scum unless I was wrong above. I'll admit I have a hard time classifying them.

Calcifer would have probably got it by now :/
that furc kill keeps bothering me though. why...?

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hmmm

I suppose a Furc kill would make most sense were bub scum. Furc suspects bub many times in his Iso.

I need tot think

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hey Bub, ML; what do you think of Ctorj?

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Bub wagon is just plain bad, but hohum is not going to vote himself. Noc or twisted, why not vote Hohum here today? (I feel like a broken record here)

The only case I see against Hohum is pine tunneling and i could see either alignment doing that. I don't see why town wouldn't be suspicious of a tracker if redscum already had one

however I trust both hohum and pine, think this is town V town and don't see how either of the NKs last night would have made sense for hohum scum.

If he gives reads beyond pine maybe that'll give me more to work with

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dude i think you're town

you're like one of the last I'd lynch

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that hammer is awful though

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yeah, pine looked mighty scummy after that bubflip. I guess redscum found it easy to identify him.
Mafia tracker too. should have expected it

good work hohum

anyways, this wagon is legit

VOTE: ctorj
just look at his entrance onto the bub wagon. Or his play in general and tell me he's not scum (not sure which colour yet)

If anyone does not have ctorj real high on their scumlist I'm interested in finding out why

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eh

to make it official i might make a 'best of ctorj iISO 2011'

depends if I get the time

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his iso has many votes but very few reasons

for example post 1306

vote: Magister Ludi

He is listed as not having voted yesterday. Seems like a good place to start as any.

considering we're

53 pages into the game at this point

reasons to vote really have to be better than someone not voting
if anything not voting is a weak towntell anyways

the ctorj iso is typical coasting scum and I'm surprised we let him live this long. It's mad.
My initial thought is that he's redscum but I might have to read again and other ISOs to come to a reasoned judgement

the final scum will be harder to find, but once we're all decided ctroj is today's lynch then we can crack on that afterwards

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I assume hohum will be in lighter spirits since he was right about pine. And if he's town we'll need him since our chances are slim right now

[Twistedspoon]

why massclaim now?

ctorj should almost for sure be our lynch today since he's so scummy so why out A PR today for the remaining scum to kill after ctorj flips scum?

Lynch ctorj and massclaim tommorow. That is my preferred decision

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massclaiming is all very well

but I don't see why we need to out a PR for scum to kill tonight when we're going to lynch ctorj today anyways

however if you guys Insist on doing so today rather than tommorow then I'll be cool with Ludi or Nocmen's claim orders

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Twisted, you realize it's lylo today anyways, and will be tomorrow as well. What in gods name will waiting till tomorrow accomplish?

not neccesarily

both scum could shoot each other tonight if we lynch town

if we lynch scum (ctorj) then all is very well

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The problem is no one is going to believe any sort of claim in 3 man lylo, and I'm not sure I even will believe one now. However, it must be done.

okay you have a good point there

the sooner we do it the more believable it is

twisted, your thought on the other scum. Could be hohum?

it could be anyone

the thing is when yesterday ended I had strong town reads on hohum, nocmen and yourself. I was expecting the scum to be pine, bunny and ctroj

however the bunny flip has really confused me and it means I'm wrong about one of my town reads

I think the most logical thing to do is get the massclaim and ctorj lynch out of the way before we think about the last scum. After taht we should be able to get the last scum through PoE and ISo

The benefit of this would be that we know the colour of the last scum and therefore it should be easier to figure out who they are, no?

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during the night phase I will say that I iso'd a few players and some of your actions, Ludi, led me to put you as a top town read. I can't see scum doing the fancy charts and analysis' that you did.

If ctroj flips scum then my first impressions will be that the final scum is probably hohum or nocmen but I'd have ISos and know what colour I'm looking out for to help me after the ctorj flip

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actually...

If ctorj flips blackscum then I suppose hohum looks more likely scum

but if ctorj flips redscum then hohum is far less likely scum

I'm not buying that hohum and pine were on the same team. It didn't look like a bus at all, but I'll check again if ctorj flips redscum

waiting for ctorj then

Ninja'd: agreed

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Im so happy my mini normal is finally in signups

just thought I'd mention it whilst waiting for ctorj to claim

if we're popcorning then I think I know who he'll pick

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okay, what's your plan?

who do you think are the scum?
also, Outline your reasons for voting bub yesterday

thirdly, you should claim now and tell us who you want to claim next

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interesting gambit hohum

did you crumb cop?

I'm not doubting you are a cop though.

sigh

I'm a miller. I expected the cop was going to be messed up big time ever since flinter flipped godfather.

I tried to crumb miller by saying it in my second post.

wtf did

miller

just say?

However hohum, did you really investigate me? double check for me and I'll be a happy camper.

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basically, lynch ctorj today and do what you want with me tommorow

I promise you I will let you lynch me without complaint if ctorj goes today

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also, to continue with the massclaim, it's nocmen+ct up

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what I'm trying to say is that my miller claim is provable if you don't believe my breadcrumb already

if ctorj flips blackscum then you'll see why i'm a miller as the only remaining mafioso will be the godfather who will be a town read upon investigation
I think ctorj will be the last blackscum

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finally, I'd like to ask hohum why he chose to investigate myself over, say, ctorj

[Twistedspoon]

basically, you're going to lynch ctorj anyways, so why not do it before me and give me the chance to prove that I'm town?

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?

I breadcrumbed and I can prove I'm a miller

If i can prove I'm a miller what's the problem?

I've already said you can do what you like with me tommorow if we lynch ctorj today

and claiming miller d1 would have been sucidial. You try it next time you're a miller

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I become confirmed town upon the ctorj flip as only the godfather should remain

it would be incredibly anti-town to not give me a chance to prove my role

if ctorj does not flip scum then you can lynch me tommorow no complaints

what's the problem?

[Twistedspoon]

I can prove my townieness

why aren't you letting me do so?

[Twistedspoon]

lynch ctroj

ctroj flips blackscum

I become confirmed town due to the only remaining mafioso being the investigation immune godfather

winner winner chicken dinner

[Twistedspoon]

and I highly doubt Nocmen will flip scum.

ctroj is the blackscum
nocmen is probably the redscum godfather

[Twistedspoon]

you're already confirmed sane

1) this ain't a bastard game
2) you got correct results so far

now let me prove I'm town. I can do so so why aren't you letting me?

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I've already said you can lynch me tommorow if you give me the chance to prove I'm town today

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also, you didn't answer my question on why you chose to investigate myself over the likes of ctorj

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how will sacrificing myself help?

we need 2 scumlynches, not a miller one

also, I can prove I'm town through a ctorj blackscum flip

and I thought if I claimed miller d1 I'd be insta-lynched.
I breadcrumbed miller instead

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and I highly doubt Nocmen will flip scum.

ctroj is the blackscum
nocmen is probably the redscum godfather

2) you got correct results so far

Clearly you're too concerned with self-preservation to read the thread.

N1: lon67 Investigates Nocmen, result: Not Guilty

The godfather shows up as town on investigation you silly

nocmen is mafia godfather, so of course he would be not guilty
ctroj is blackscum

[Twistedspoon]

you're sane

what's the problem?

[Twistedspoon]

I can prove I'm town

how am I lying?

I even crumbed too

[Twistedspoon]

look If i can't prove I'm town through the ctorj flip then you can lynch me tommorow

you should believe my breadcrumb, but since you refuse to acknowledge it then I'll prove I'm town by showing that after the ctorj flip the only remaining scum should be the investigation immune godfather

you can lynch me tommorow if I haven't proved I'm town. I won't argue

now does that sound like a scum tactic to you? letting you lynch me tommorow?

[Twistedspoon]

if you mislynch today then both scum could still shoot each other

and you won't mislynch today because ctroj is scum

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Twisted - hohum doesnt need to validate his sanity, he knows that he's sane from the pine and bunny flips, and I know that he's sane also from the result on me.

And where did all of a sudden you think I'm a godfather come from? You had me as one of the more town players, and now that the cop claims, you think i'm gf? Seems a bit quick to flip a read around.

exactly what I'm saying

hohum is sane

and I can prove I'm a miller if my breadcrumb wasn't enough

now that hohum is confirmed town then I know that the scum apart from ctroj has to lie in {nocmen, ML}
I'm not entirely sure which but I'd have to do a re-read

we lynch ctroj today and he flips blackscum watcher leaving only the redscum mafia godfather who would have investigation immunity and therefore cannot have been myself

then we go into the final day having at least 1 confirmed town (hohum or myself. Probably myself since hohum will have been killed due to being cop)

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EBWOP: Or is that the plan to confirm you? Lynching Ctorj?

yeah

because I think he's blackscum

therefore the only scum left would be the investiagtion immune godfather

I also breadcrumbed miller too though

[Twistedspoon]

this is daft

I can prove I'm town

you;re going to kill ctorj anyways, so why not do it before myself?

[Twistedspoon]

and hohum

still

needs to answer the question as to why he found myself the most investigation worthy

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yeah, what's with that Ludi?

It's like you know that I'm town yet still want me dead

I think It'd be in your best interest if we lynch ctorj to

1) remove one scum
2) confirm myself as town

then like I say, we're in a cracking position

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So to ctorj and Nocmen, if you dont shoot the other person, and instead shoot town, the other scum IS GOING to shot you, and you will lose anyways.

it sounds like you're saying you know nocmen and ctroj are scum and that I'm town

if you think that then what's your problem with me?

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Um, if you flip miller then that means Nocmen and ctorj are scum. Where is the hole in the logic here?

And nocmen, the scum teams are obviously the same. so there is still a red godfather roaming about.

so we're all sure I'm not the red godfather?
great, well just lynch ctorj blackscum and I'll be neither

it makes no sense lynching me first

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Twisted Claim miller

I didn't just claim miller

I crumbed it and can prove it

ctorj is the blackscum and he's going to get lynched anyways, so why not do him before me to confirm that i'm town

as for the final scum do we all believe the cop claim? I want to hear why hohum chose to investigate me first. It seems an odd choice

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actually, something real strange has just occurred to me

UNVOTE: ctorj

I feel like hearing from ctorj is quite important right now

[Twistedspoon]

because we'll find out his alignment soon enough

and whatever alignment he is It'd still be helpful for getting the last scum

I think I'll put my vote back on because he needs pressure though. We're in this mess because he was never pressured enough earlier. I think he's the last blackscum. We need his lynch today. Sooo many benefits and soooo much info

VOTE: ctorj

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well vote him with me then

whatever you think about me he's bound to be the other scum and his lynch should confirm me as town if I'm correct in thinking that he's blackscum since only the godfather would remain

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tbh, it doesn't really matter which he is, a scumflip is a scumflip

however if he is blackscum it confirms me as town.
I think he is blackscum though due to the other blackscummers

I looked at Ctorj as a possible town miselimination, because I've seen it happen to newcomer-town all the time. His post here shows he's got a head on his shoulders.

here gollum has a town read n ctorj

TS, ctorj, and (to a lesser extent) ML are good in my book.

same with pine

Ctorj is town in my books for just this post. He says perfectly what I think

and so does flinter

it's not hard to see that the only players who have town reads on ctorj are the blackscum
and that was without even looking at the ctorj ISO

Conclusion:

Ctorj is obviously blackscum. Lynch him to eliminate 1 scum and confirm me as town. Seriously, why aren't you voting yet?

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super

I got to get some shut-eye now. I have a big geography exam tommorow and the hour is late

It's pretty obvious that ctorj is scumand once he flips blackscum (see post #1490 or any blackscum ISo) I become confirmed town due to the only remaining scum being the godfather and Hohum will probably get shot in the night by the remaining redscum due to him being cop. So whatever happens we go into the last day with one less scum and a confirmed townie. Our chances are good. Hammer whenever.
G'Night

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Just in case I'm not making myself abundantly clear he's

NOT

the miller. He's lying, it's a gambit to keep himself alive another day.

sigh

I crumbed and can prove it.

Methinks you're just annoyed you thought you had the last scum with your investigation

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oh, and for the ~4th thime you've still yet to answer my question hohum

[Twistedspoon]

answer my question

[Twistedspoon]

whyyyy

why do you refuse to answer my question

[Twistedspoon]

no

answer my question

[Twistedspoon]

just answer our question

you should have nothing to hide

you can't just ignore us both.

The town have a duty to ask questions and town have a duty to answer

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okays

well I'm dissapointed in you hohum

granted, you were right I was scum I really freaked out when you decided it would be clever to fake an invesiagtion rersult

I'm the mafia godfather and you should never have got a guilty on me. So your fakery has been a huge risk but it seems to have worked for you

had you let ctorj die first I would have been confirmed, and my ftr, my breadcrumb wasn't that bad. ¬_¬

although i shall say that now that I'm hammered I highly doubt ctorj is the scum

just remember that if hohum got a false investiagtion result from me, then I think he did for nocmen too. Remember that if you're interested in my help town.
Hohum might not be sane in both senses of the word, but I'm still proud I outlived Haylen, Duplicity and Farside

@Hohum: one last question. Why did you choose to investiagte me? why not ctorj? I would have and should have won had you not or at least got the expected result on me.

[Twistedspoon]

tl;dr:

faking investigation results isn't cool. Somehow it worked though.

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Calling me town pretty much the entire game was really what made me suspicious to begin with. It's like you knew for a fact I am town (which is obvious now in hindsight).

you could have been blackscum

but yeah, I'll tell you now that I honestly think ctorj is town. I probably shouldn't be helping town, especially because I don't want to face a smug calcifer in the endgame, but I don't want the blackscum to capitalise on this

just look at ctorj's last post. I think he's town

But whatever, It's your call

I'll say that had you lynched ctorj today like I wanted I might have actually shot nocmen despite your innocent result on him. The possibility occured to me that your investigation results may have been random after you got guilty on me. Now that nocmen's town Scum is ML if I'm right about ctorj

maybe next time I'm cop I'll fake a guilty result on you. Y'know, repay the favour

anything else you want to squeeze out of me before I relax and watch the Lylo?

~TS

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Y'know after I calimed miller, If you had just said that you never actually investigated me I'd probably have been lynched long ago

[Twistedspoon]

...

hohum gets no mercy from me. I need to fake cop investigations on him from now on

anyways /in for Mirror mafia sequel

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still, I wouldn't have said the hiders were cops. They die behind godfathers don't they? It still makes godfathers moot

[Twistedspoon]

I told you guys Ctorj was town :p

[Twistedspoon]

but yeah, when Hohum admitted to faking his result on me, that was when you should have stopped trusting him

[Twistedspoon]

how did you figure out there was no cop?

also, do we get to see your QT?

[Twistedspoon]

cop could have still been there

redscum QT (highly embarassing)
dead QT

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I still think Thor should've won

best faction by far