Open 272 - Near-Vanilla (Over!)

[andrew94]

/confirm
2nd

[andrew94]

what?
he said 'confirmed 2nd scum'
people with some interlect like me would understand why he said that

vote antb

3rd scum

[andrew94]

what?
he said 'confirmed 2nd scum'
people with some interlect like me would understand why he said that

That can be taken to mean any number of things, depending on how you read it. I read it as "CN confirmed 2nd. Scum!". You and farside read it as "CN

is

confirmed

as

2nd scum". This has to do with the psychology of how people interpret written word, not "interlect".

Obviously read as

"Confirmed as 2nd scum"

Picking on someone's typo is a scum tell?

who are you referring to here

[andrew94]

i kinda see brokenscrap's first point as a way to start conversation. however, the fact that nacho didnt respond to the point makes it sus.

about cn, i now believe he really misread. because if you see his posts, he later said 'i confirmed 4th' which shows that he really misunderstood

[andrew94]

I never said CN confirmed 2nd, just that he is the confirmed 2nd scum, I may have phrased that poorly.

Very poorly... seems like a complete cover-up.

UNVOTE: JesseSheffield
VOTE: brokenscraps

you referring to this post.
firstly, its not omgus
secondly, if you call a chainsaw voting for someone because they are voting for another, there will be 1000 chainsaws in this whole game.
and its not phrased poorly at all. you just made the coverup reason up

[andrew94]

???
your attack is fail.
read brokenscrap's original post,

[andrew94]

Archer do you have anything else to add to the convo?

I've read everything (again!) and am beginning to wander about the poor reasoning from AntB. Sure, perhaps it was a honest mistake, but he is sticking with it, which makes me suspicious. The fact that brokenscraps still avoids me gives him some more scum points too.

Also drmyshottyizsik has done minimal hunting imo, its mostly one liners. And they usually aren't even that useful. Scum points for drmyshottyizsik!

Then finally, my hatred for the inactives I await explanations from all of them.

errrr.
what about you sir?

[andrew94]

dudeu egg.
if he backed off to satisfy the crowd, hes scum.
why would you want to satisfy the crowd.
cos your scared of the crowd

[andrew94]

@nacho, so you say that you had 1 new message but didnt check it?
hey antb, theres gonna be tons of 'so called chainsaws' in one game, but none can be proved as a chainsaw until a scumflip is shown. so yea, weak case, weak dude,

[andrew94]

Archer do you have anything else to add to the convo?

I've read everything (again!) and am beginning to wander about the poor reasoning from AntB. Sure, perhaps it was a honest mistake, but he is sticking with it, which makes me suspicious. The fact that brokenscraps still avoids me gives him some more scum points too.

Also drmyshottyizsik has done minimal hunting imo, its mostly one liners. And they usually aren't even that useful. Scum points for drmyshottyizsik!

Then finally, my hatred for the inactives I await explanations from all of them.

errrr.
what about you sir?

copycat nacho

[andrew94]

farside your link links me to this

i kinda see brokenscrap's first point as a way to start conversation. however, the fact that nacho didnt respond to the point makes it sus.

about cn, i now believe he really misread. because if you see his posts, he later said 'i confirmed 4th' which shows that he really misunderstood

???


also, cn replaced out of all his games ( i think)

[andrew94]

i sense archer bussing

[andrew94]

farside your link links me to this

i kinda see brokenscrap's first point as a way to start conversation. however, the fact that nacho didnt respond to the point makes it sus.

about cn, i now believe he really misread. because if you see his posts, he later said 'i confirmed 4th' which shows that he really misunderstood

???


also, cn replaced out of all his games ( i think)

yes and my question was why was it understandable (before CN requested replacement) for CN to misunderstand and stand by his view but AntB is scummy for the same?

huh? cn made a comment that he confirmed 4th(not2nd) so he really did misunderstand but antb just made up a fail reason to vote broken

[andrew94]

can you also refer to my post in which your @andrew is directed at.
im in a lot of games

[andrew94]

I never said CN confirmed 2nd, just that he is the confirmed 2nd scum, I may have phrased that poorly.

Very poorly... seems like a complete cover-up.

UNVOTE: JesseSheffield
VOTE: brokenscraps

here we go.
a 'complete cover up'???
i , and some others understood that broken was saying 'he is confirmed 2nd scum' not 'he confirmed 2nd, therefore is scum'.
cn was the person being wagoned, antb just made a crap reason to jump on someone else (if he jumped on cn, too obvious?)

[andrew94]

@archer i was talking to farside

[andrew94]

omg, davidparker? = =

farside, can you explain your 'this ^ a thousand times this' i dont understand

[andrew94]

dude ok, in one of my recently finsihed games, nacho was scum and he posted walls of shit to confuse everyone and its a trap.
ffs

[andrew94]

can you also refer to my post in which your @andrew is directed at.
im in a lot of games

i asked you because i was confused at which post it was about.

im just lsiting probable scum teams

[andrew94]

huh?
he posts wall of long walls which makes it a 'battle of wills'

[andrew94]

getting on a plane. 13 hours. sleeping after. might have delay flight.

[andrew94]

shooty requested replacement david.

[andrew94]

Actually I could get on board with what looker pointed out. I reread Andrew how has contributed nothing but fluff and floating by saying nothing of scum hunting. His vote has been on Ant with a few questions that were pointless. I looked at his other games to see how he plays. Looking he plays like this no matter his alignment. However I saw He did push more on those he found scummy.
Show here http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 69&start=0
Looking at the scum game here He's a hard one to read alright.
In fact looking at both games neither fit how he is acting here. So I'm going to get away from the meta on this because it tells me nothing.
This case is based on game play here and it's exactly nothing. Pointless questions, floating by with little said and non contribution of scum hunting.

unvote:
vote: andrew

1) if the meta tells you nothing, why did you point it out
2) the 'hard one to read' game was because gandalf was making ridiculous cases on me
3) non contribution of scum hunting? i find antb scummy and pointed out nachp's walls but antb just got ignored (now has 1 vote)

looker replaced in and just came guning for me

[andrew94]

what does that vote count show...

[andrew94]

bella, you know who you replaced right?

[andrew94]

@antb

suspects
antb- for reasons stated
lord_hur comes in , seconds the policy lynch, BUT doesnt vote. comments on bella is not a 'newb' then says ' i was just pointing it out, adding to the case' then 'fos david for interprating it otherwise???'

and batt

[andrew94]

227- DavidParker is distancing = scum if nacho is town

Because town players having a town-read on other town players is unheard of?

exactly.

[andrew94]

batt's post was hewavily scummy.

how can u know for 'sure' smashbros alignment depending on nacho's flip

[andrew94]

batt, when u say if x flips town ,. therefore there is a chance that Y is scum.
are u gonna push for y's lynch if X does flip town??? (x being smashbro i think)

then if y also flips town?????

[andrew94]

batt gave a bs example.
if all mafia games were 'if i lynch x i know who y is'

its called 'bussing'/'scum attacking town'/'town attacking town' etc

[andrew94]

no batt...
basically ur saying if we lynch nacho and hes town

smashbro= town
david= scum.

how are you gonna prove that? another lynch
and what if dp flips town???

[andrew94]

dude anyone on L1 is 'fighting the crowd' so they dont lynch him
does that = town?
lol

[andrew94]

@farside, im pretty sure someone said the walls were of a different nature( cant find it now) and i agreed with thenm

[andrew94]

david, can you explain how that makes him town.

farside, didnt you say earlier that batt defended himself pretty well

[andrew94]

unvote vote batt

although egg could be scum doing a 1-1 trade. (jk cant be nk'ed now cos doc just protects him)

[andrew94]

farside, im not sure whats wrong with the mod pm, but i sent it again

[andrew94]

what im saying is batt could be the legit jk, and egg CC'ed otherwise they could never get him dead

[andrew94]

farside, i didnt feel batt was town with his actions/backtracking yesterday

[andrew94]

i believe i was voting antb farside?

[andrew94]

antb, i dont care.

vote antb

[andrew94]

antb, i dont care.

vote antb

Every attempt at making sense of this post failed. Please explain.

the 'i dont care' was talking to antb, who asked me why i had 9 posts in between voting him and justifying

[andrew94]

which questions,

suspects apart from antb, you

[andrew94]

i also have looker on my suspect list, due to the sense of not good ness when i read his iso,

[andrew94]

I was mistaken about the questions. You didn't ask anything just insinuated some suspicion. I do wonder about something else. I asked you this:

farside, i didnt feel batt was town with his actions/backtracking yesterday

I find you saying this interesting as you didn't switch your vote to him until the counter claim from Egg, however you did state suspicion on him.
I see you have a habit so far in this game of not voting very much. Is there a reason you didn't place a vote on Batt till the fake claim?

Your answer:

i believe i was voting antb farside?

That doesn't really answer my question. Why did you wait for a claim before switching to Batt?

i was afk when the claim and counter claim happened, i thought antb was more sus, then when there was cc, batt had a more chance of fc.

[andrew94]

because that is a possible scerniao, an outed jk can never die (unless crap happens)
and i thought if batt were scum he would have claimed doctor, so the outed doctor either dies or gets roleblocked and protected by the jk, wasting both their abilities.

[andrew94]

Andrew is scum, if not then kill me.

I hate posts like this :/

ffs is antB zelink/ or that guy?
your statement has no logic, antb, 'him then me', is like antitown

[andrew94]

sorry, had a long day, will make a post tommorrow

[andrew94]

bella, in 580 you heavily contradict yourself. at the davidparker place you say 'town-town action', then you said antb is scum

[andrew94]

although, lord hur is scummy for his over case on farside, looker is beyond scummy for switching to lord hur, a new wagon against antb

[andrew94]

i believe farsides explanation of her having lord hur as a town read (alothough lord hur aint a town read to me) to be saying 'i think'/

atnb just pushing dirt on anyone he can

[andrew94]

i believe farsides explanation of her having lord hur as a town read (alothough lord hur aint a town read to me) to be saying 'i think'/

atnb just pushing dirt on anyone he can

Do you believe lord hur is scum? What conclusion do you have of Bella or Archer?

yes i think lord hur is scummy.

archer i dunno

bella is slightly scummy due to the post about davidparker

[andrew94]

lh is scummy because of hes overcase on farside

[andrew94]

i would really want to see him lynched

[andrew94]

farside, may i see the question you say i ignored

[andrew94]

@Egg: What about Batt's responses when he entered?
and yes I'm being a bit stubborn on that issue. It's hard not to be when you see a player not living up to making an actual case that has merit.
But since we are on the subject of Jesse, did you see when I asked him about Andrew doing the same thing and he ignored the question (or I think he didn't come back into the game, can't remember which right now)? Does that mean he may be ignoring a scum buddy?

[andrew94]

will post more when i get home

[andrew94]

@mod , can u update the first post to say who replaced who.

[andrew94]

@mod , can u update the first post to say who replaced who.

[andrew94]

actually about the jk thing, we only need to ask egg:

did you aim your jk as a protect or as a roleblock

[andrew94]

because if egg is aiming his jailkeep to protect, that post which someone said that the particular person has a 50% less chance of being mafia is false.

[andrew94]

egg would you suggest why you are voting me?

[andrew94]

• UNVOTE: VOTE: Egg

lo

[andrew94]

v/la cos of bio assignments

[andrew94]

unvote vote conspiracy

hope this counts

[andrew94]

i dont think looker scum would vote egg.

vote antb

[andrew94]

looker non reader could..

[andrew94]

@Andrew
wow. just wow.
VOTE: andrew94 <-- why is he still here?

die scum die

[andrew94]

@looker, so are you saying you knew egg was the jk before voting him

[andrew94]

in that case looker, why on earth do you vote.

i also say we lynch from antb/ farside


= antb

so we dont out more roles

[andrew94]

@farside, do you happen to notice that my vote is on antb?

[andrew94]

andrew94 wrote:
farside, im not sure whats wrong with the mod pm, but i sent it again


about this: its cos farside asked me what game i would like to mod, i sent it but she said she didnt receive it. i then stated i sent it again(in case the pm didnt work again)

[andrew94]

farside, what do you think of antb now...

[andrew94]

sao magnua has 3 townreads?

anyway, antb then magnua

[andrew94]

@archer, what conclusions can i draw from farside/antb lynch

well firstly, i have been sus of antb since foreveer and also we dont out another vt/ or the doc. etc

[andrew94]

@archer, what do you mean what conclusions. we get his flip

[andrew94]

to your number 1) i dont get it... wouldnt the mafia just aim the doctor?

also @antb, more people think im town then you are town. so.. die scum die

[andrew94]

but then if the jk saves the doctor, the doctor is roleblocked..

[andrew94]

when you say LK means JK right?

also, NK's are not random

[andrew94]

^because ur posting alot right?

[andrew94]

regfan, can you explain why the **** i am obvious town (and not in other games).
also why you lynching apparently 'useless town' instead of 'scum'

[andrew94]

v/la 2 days

[andrew94]

test tommorrow. let me make a good post on satuyraday

[andrew94]

VOTE: Farside

got more on her than I have on Looker, this should be interesting.

i thought you thought i was scum?

[andrew94]

jailing reveal is pretty ok. (the 50% thing)

we also needa lynch antb

[andrew94]

jk targets pls

[andrew94]

reasoning bro???

why not targets

[andrew94]

dude someone being on a mislynch doesnt mean shit.
archer was on the ml but he was town

[andrew94]

and regfan, your scernio only works if we lynch scum today, which is no.

@egg, i cannot begin to explain how flawed your logic and posts are. by your logic, if one busses all his buddies and doesnt participate in any mislynchs , that - town? erm no

[andrew94]

Andrew, what percentage of your games have you seen a scum bus all of their buddies and never be on a mislynch? This is a serious question.

me in trendy and subversive
thats about it

vote antb

as i said before

[andrew94]

you cant just say antb says stuff irate town says and doesnt claim doc means he is town./

moar votes

[andrew94]

questions
@egg

1) do u think the scum no killed last night

if yes ur done, if no, go to Q2
2) who did u jk last night

[andrew94]

chances are the person you jk'ed last night = scum.
so we can put that person higher up the suspect list. (but yet not lynch him due to mafia wifoming)

[andrew94]

you have never told us any of your targets.
the info would be lost if u die tonight

[andrew94]

i guess no lynch is hammered then

[andrew94]

bah

[andrew94]

2 words:

retard antb

[andrew94]

well i had a town read on bella but that was it.

[andrew94]

night actions please..

[andrew94]

night 1: egg
night 2 : egg
night 3: magua
night 4: bella
night 5 : egg
i sorta had suspisions of magua since you didnt die, but there was antb..