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Woo! Let's get this game a-rolling!
Captain Corporal here, half of the Captain Haoala hydra! The other half is Haoala, who should be around soon.
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VOTE: Teamsleep
Trololololol. Random voting is good fun.
Anyway, just one random question to kick it off, what is your favorite role? Choose one, and give your reason for liking it.
-Killing roles are always fun. Even something like PGO is good. Reading the first modpost in the morning and finding out you've killed scum (say, as a vig), or a town PR (as scum) gives a certain satisfaction =P
-Doc is also great. Being able to save one of your teammates from death is also satisfying.
-VT is definitely one of my top roles. While there are no special powers or anything, you have no fear of getting killed, as you're not exactly vital to the group, but your death will open up new avenues to the town.
I'd have to say doc is my favorite role.
That's me answering my question, btw.
Sorry if most of that sounded stupid, I realize I started to ramble in there somewhere.
Anyway, looking forward to having a game with you all.Captain Corporal and haoala hydra-
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Anyone got suggestions on how to prevent that from happening?
chkflip wrote:Captain, can we expect you to trip over your own feet like that a lot? I'd prefer you tried to confer with one another before posting. Maybe you should open up a QT just for the two of you so you can have concise thoughts. I'm really not trying to play a game with one slot playing two completely different games.
We already have a QT, hopefully that will reduce the number of times we trip over our own feet. Have you ever played a hydra?Captain Corporal and haoala hydra-
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2birds and killer: what's your experience with mafia, either on-site or off-? Would like to know if we are playing with true newbies or ppl from another site.
killerX029 wrote:RANDOM VOTING FTW
Vote: Mafiafixed
i am the replacement for grimmjow btw
killerX029 wrote:May i ask that this vote not be counted as a vote for me? as his reason for voting off grimmjow was that he doesnt like bleach. my name does not relate to bleach in any way
You know about random voting, yet take issue against a random vote?
What do the others think, is paranoia is a scummy?Captain Corporal and haoala hydra-
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Ohaiguise
Captain Corporal here, back from an unexpected absence. My modem died or something, so I couldn't access the internet (we borrowed a modem until we can get a new one).
Off topic for a second, may I say that I'm looking forward to playing, no-one here seems mentally unstable, like in the recent games I've played. That's a good thing.
Now, onto reads.
I don't really have any. I don't agree with Haoala's view on Hellhound, as I don't think random.org spells scum, but since I've never been scum on Mafiascum, I'm going to go with what he thinks is best.
A couple of people jumped on two wagons on the last page with no justification whatsoever - this isn't good. If there's one thing that gets a scumread from me, it's sheeping. (Sorry I'm on a mobile device and it seems to die while flipping through pages. Plus it's quarter past midnight.)
Tomorrow I should have some better reads up and some more posts too.Captain Corporal and haoala hydra-
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haoala here.
The logic regarding random.org is simple, really. Scum want to leave as few tracks as possible. By using any RNG, they separate themselves from their vote and take no responsibility for it. As a result, they leave no track so they cannot be incriminated. In using an RNG, their vote contributes nothing to the RVS, which is to start discussion and possibly catch scum.
Oh, the irony.Captain Corporal and haoala hydra-
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Lurconis wrote:Then he votes sleuth who he says is either mafia or a normal townie. I would hope we were just voting for people we thought were mafia, not people we thought were mafia or townies.
Yes, that caught my eye too. Furthermore, why does silence = normal townie?Captain Corporal and haoala hydra-
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Ok, I'll be the first to say
KillerX, lolwut?
All that follows is analysis of the above post.
Ok, let's look at this situation as if Killer was scum. Why would he make this post? To start off with, he's trying to make everyone who votes him next seem scummy. He has also said he would remain silent --> no scumhunting. Even if no-one votes him, he will STILL target people on his wagon (OMGUS to the max). In any case, what differentiates one who puts a vote on him now from someone already voting him?
Now let's look at it as if he were town. What would scum gain from this post? If those two votes WERE put on, this post would be rendered useless (if he were scum), as he would flip town, undoing all that he's trying to accomplish in this post.
I'd say that Killer is looking VERY scummy right now. He sounds a lot like scum trying to get out of getting lynched. Although he is new, why the hell would newbtown do this? Will get back to you after consorting with Haoala.Captain Corporal and haoala hydra-
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haoala here.
teamsleep wrote:At the least, a l-1 player should be able to claim.
He was given ample opportunity but never did.
Gaylord Focker wrote:Yes, my other head got overeager. Unlike him, I'm going to actuallythinkbefore Iact(this would've saved you a lot of pregnancies other head). Expect a vote after a hot and steamy conference.
chkflip wrote:Captain, can we expect you to trip over your own feet like that a lot? I'd prefer you tried to confer with one another before posting. Maybe you should open up a QT just for the two of you so you can have concise thoughts. I'm really not trying to play a game with one slot playing two completely different games.
Is there anyway to prevent this from happening, Gaylord?
JAMFTW wrote:Vote: Gaylord Focker
I'm with teamsleep on this one. No townie in their right mind should EVER quickhammer, overeager or not.
This is a really bad bandwagon. IGMEOY, JAMFTW.Captain Corporal and haoala hydra-
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Hey, just letting everyone know we're still here! I've been busy (what with people keeping me awake till 1am, and friend's 21sts), but I will have time this week to post.
I'm off to bed now, I'll be posting in the morning.
For the benefit of my other head, the mod, and all the other players, I will be V/LA thisFriday through to Sunday. Just giving you the heads-upCaptain Corporal and haoala hydra-
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Hey,everyone, CC here
Haoala seems to have disappeared, but oh well... He'll be here soon.
At the moment I don't like Gaylord. His play very much reminds me of a SK I played with. But I should probably chek his meta.
As for other reads, they are mainly gut. I've been terribly busy the past few days and haven't got a good chance to read the thread, as short as it is. So the following are gut, until I read up a bit.
Sleuth: Something about your play has seemed a little strange. I seem to remember you jumping onto a bandwagon yesterday, with almost no reasoning (on a mobile device, can't quote or open pages without waitin 5 minutes).
Teamsleep: I remember reading a game where you were town (in fact I replaced you), and your play has changed. I also have a feeling that you are bussing Gaylord.
Gaylord: As I said before, I don't like your play. Whether you be SK or scum, the answer is the same. Lynch. Your play has been pretty anti-town, and your attitude is terribad (although attitude isn't really much to base reads from).
As I said before, these are my gutreads and will stand until Haoala can convince me otherwise. Or I re-read and find that my gut fails.
Lastly, what are everyone's reads on me?Captain Corporal and haoala hydra-
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haoala here.
That is an astute observation, lewarcher82. However, if it really is a slip, why would Gaylord bring attention to it? If they were scum I think they'd just be as silent as possible about it, since they know it stems from their QT. But yes it looks very bad.
Mafiafixed: what do you think of the "slip" by teamsleep?Captain Corporal and haoala hydra-
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haoala here.
Hellhound1 wrote:Personally, im still happy with a teamsleep lynch..
I mean, in the one or two posts, its mainly about the slip.
That, ofc, could be a red herring planted by scum, but its 20 to 1 in the morning and i dont want to overthink things.
Nice try scum. The slip theory is busted.
VOTE: Hellhound1
P-Edit: Why is teamsleep getting lynched?Captain Corporal and haoala hydra-
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Very well.
UNVOTE: Hellhound1
lewarcher82 wrote:I like the idea of lynching gay first only because *IF* he flipped town - which he prolly won't - we will have an option to see that I was wrong - which I am prolly not - and we will be able to abort the plan. Which we likely will not.
What do you think of TS now?Captain Corporal and haoala hydra-
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don_johnson wrote:Lurconis wrote:I still feel Hellhound is scummy and want to know why he hasn't posted here when he has been active today in two other games but didn't come into this thread.
is there a case against him? if so, can you point me to it?
Here and here.
The 2nd one isn't so much a case as it is an important yet unanswered question.
I can't believe you didn't see Lurc's case. Skimming?
don_johnson wrote:i like the way town seems to be divided into camps today.
Is this sarcastic?Captain Corporal and haoala hydra-
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Gahhhh!
Everything else said that we might or might not be at lylo. Mine was the only one which explicitly said that I believe we are not at lylo. But I'll let that pass.
Even if it's a poor case, it's a case nonetheless. You behaved like there wasn't any, and asked Lurc for it. If you had seen it (and it appears you haven't), why didn't you simply respond to it instead of asking for a case against Hellhound? Most of all, I voted him for avoiding this game. I think this screams noobscum.Captain Corporal and haoala hydra-
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haoala here.
I notice that HH continues to be active in other games while avoiding this one, despite the fact that this should be one of his top priorities. I still think this is noobscum, altho there is a slight chance of it being noobtown.
Hellhound1, did you know that you were not voting anyone when you unvoted?
Yeah, Ben's 318 has too much backtracking.Captain Corporal and haoala hydra-
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293:
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I dont see DJ's “case” on JAM convincing whatsoever.
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Benmage wrote:lewarcher82 wrote:
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I didnt suggested he brought it up himself...But after my 2nd game I no longer considered myself a noob, and I never considered myself a VI. Still relatively new and inexperienced..sure... But anyways...10-15 games later, lol hell no I was effing pro by than. So I questioned that. Whats up?
noobcard = scumsign. Why calling it noobcard if you don't think it's scummy? Just for a matter of definitions?
I didnt say it wasn't scummy.I just didn't auto assume him scum.Scum and scummy, two different things.
I would think that in post 293 you are saying that you don't think JAM is scummy. And "scum and scummy, two different things" is just incomprehensible.Captain Corporal and haoala hydra-
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Do you think we're scum?
I pointed it out because you had never used bullets before. Bullets -> organisation -> attempt to organise argument.
But don't worry about that because I think you're town from your responses.
P-Edit: I didn't answer your question initially because I felt you scummy.Captain Corporal and haoala hydra-
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In post 372, haoala wrote:haoala here.
lewarcher82 wrote:
@everyone: we are now 11, withlikely3 scum (hopefully not 4, but it cannot be excluded 100%). We might assume no killing 3p, but it is still early to be sure. Please do not build wagons too quickly. Newbies should be particularly careful, or we will throw the game in the toilet.
lewarcher82 wrote:as we have no evidence for a third party, we should be 6 vs 3, meaning we have 1 last ML. However, one cannot exclude the remote possibility of 4 scum in this game, in which case we woud be on lylo.Please think twice before casting even a single vote.
lewarcher82 wrote:We were soo stupid to leave them both alive
Typical scum tactics to appear town. Also, when I voted on D3, he asked me to be cautious of voting. Other players voted after that, to which he did not respond. Inconsistent.
lewarcher82 wrote:And benmage is spreading false data about ML's. We have 1 at most. O-N-E. Terribly bad at maths or scum? What are you, ben?
Jumping at a small math mistake.
lewarcher82 wrote:Captain Haoala wrote:CC here
I'm leaning town TS. His 658 was amazingly townie, and at the moment I'm severely opposed to his lynch.
Benmage on the other hand... I need to talk him over with Haoala.
I am afraid you might be right about TS.
Buddying.
The most scummy thing of all was his case against TS. Since it turns out to be nothing,he should not get off scot-free and unexamined. And I found this:
lewarcher82 wrote:@hellhound: I don't think that Gaylord would be terribly worried at us seeing his meta;he appears to be an experienced player, and meta'ing a hydra is very difficult. They can decide not to share their identities. I would have liked to trying meta'ing them, but their refusal to out themselves should not be regarded as a certain scumtell.
The very same "slip" as teamsleep. I'm not saying we vote him because of the "slip", I'm saying we should have seen this when he called TS & Gaylord buddies. And because he made the same "slip", yet pushed it as a case against TS, that is very scummy.Captain Corporal and haoala hydra-
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But the others casted their votes and you didn't say anything after that. That was my point.
Why did GL appear to be an experienced player to you?
It isn't a slip, that's why it's in inverted commas. You called it a slip at that time, so I'm saying you are guilty of the same thing.Captain Corporal and haoala hydra-
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